Jonathan: There's part
of it is creating your why, creating what's your purpose,
and part of it is realizingā¦ even if I don't have that, even though I'm still searching
for that, I don't need to wait
for it to live. Alan: I'm just gonna go ahead
and say right now, because I identify
so strongly with Joe, weāre gonna get a lot
of this as we go on. Hello and welcome to Cinema Therapy.
I am Alan Seawright, professional filmmaker and I
need therapy. Jonathan: I'm Jonathan Decker, licensed therapist
and I love movies. What do we got today, brother? Alan: Iām going to have
you react to a film. Jonathan: I love Therapist
Reacts, these are fun. Alan: This is probably our most
requested film ever. Soul. Jonathan: OK. Alan: Pixarās Soul. Jonathan: I'm sorry, I thought it was Troll
2. But I'm super excited. Alan: That's number 2. That's
our second most requested video. Everyone loves Troll 2. Tale
of Nilbog! Jonathan: This is fantastic.
It's a really great film. Alan: So, I watched it Christmas Day
when it came out. I think it was tired,
because Christmas with kids is, like, it's a lot. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: And I liked it. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: I liked it a lot. And then I re-watched
it a couple days ago to prep for thisā¦
and it destroyed me! I am a husk of a man now. Husk of an Alan: I am ruined. Jonathan: Before he was just
a husky man. Alan: If you haven't seen
this film, you should watch it. Pause this and watch the thing
and then come back. You can watch it on Disney Plus
or using our link down there to rent or buy it. We get a little kickback
which will make us feelā¦ nice. Jonathan: So, I had
a similar experience. To me it was overhyped.
I watched it once and I'm like: Oh, crap. They all want us to do
this video and Iā¦. Alan: I don't love it. Jonathan: I wasn't blown away
by it andā¦ and thenā¦ so, I actually went back
and re-watched it and it actually really
landed for me the second time. Soā¦. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: ā¦kind of a
similar experience. Alan: There'sā¦ there's actually
a lot. Some interesting
character stuff, there's relationshipsā¦ Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: ā¦all over the place. Jonathan: And life purpose
which isā¦. Alan: Life purpose
which is a huge thing. Joe: My life was meaningless. Jonathan: ā¦big reason for people
come to therapy. Alan: Yeah, causeā¦. Jonathan: What is my spark? Alan: What is my spark?
What is my purpose? Are they the same thing?
Spoiler ā we'll find out. Jonathan: Character of Joe,
played by Jamie Foxx. Itās Joe, right? Alan: It is Joe. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: Hands and piano, you know, animated by the animators
at Pixar but they filmedā¦ they filmed Jon Batisteā¦ Jonathan: Oh, cool. Alan: ā¦playing all this stuff
from, like, 30 different camera
angles so that they get every little nuance of theā¦ hands on the keys
and everything. And the animators interpreted it. And Joe has gotten himself
into the zone and he'sā¦ flowing. Jonathan: Itās kind
of a trance-like state. I love that this pays off later
in the story. I mean, it's, it's a great little
how everything else fades away. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: You don't see
the stage, you don't see anybody else. Alan: It's a beautiful
visualization of it right now and then it plays such
a huge role in the story later. And you come out of the zone andā¦. Joe: Sorry, Iā¦ zoned out
a little back there. Dorothea: Joe Gardner,
where have you been? Joe: I've been, um, teaching.
Middle school band at theā¦ but on the weekends I... Dorothea: You got a suit? Joe: I, umā¦. Dorothea: Get a suit, Teach.
A good suit. Back here tonight. First showās at 9.
Soundcheckās at 7. We'll see how you do. Jonathan: I think one of our
greatest fears is a life unlived, right? Alan: Oh, absolutely. Jonathan: A life unfulfilled,
not doingā¦ not leaving your mark,
not making a difference, not actually living, like just,
kind of, going through the motions. And he's done that his
entire life. And the cruel irony is the dayā¦
he says: āI can't die, not when my life
has just begun.ā And he's halfway
through his lifeā¦ Alan: Yeah Jonathan: ā¦you know? Alan: He just hasn't recognized
it yet. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: And as a middle aged man
with many unfulfilled professional dreamsā¦ I don't identify
with that at all. Jonathan: I don't know why
I'm laughing. I guess I'm laughing because you
said it was such a roguish charm. STOP!!! What are you doing?! Oh,
we broke him. Hey, hey, hey. Alan: Huh? Oh! Jonathan: Here. Alan: Is thatā¦? Oohā¦. Jonathan: There you,
come on back. There. Alan: Whatās this? Jonathan: So, we have Birthday
Cake popcorn becauseā¦ Alan: You have a birthday
Cake popcorn. Jonathan: ā¦the souls in Soul
are waiting to be born. Alan: Gonna have a birthday. Jonathan: And they're going
to have a birthday. Alan: And hopefully, their birthday will be
as delicious as this. This is very good. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: Lisa's Passion
For Popcorn! Lisaspassionforpopcorn.com. Jonathan: Use the codeā¦ Alan: 10% discount. Jonathan: Yeah, the code
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something nice. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: And so I look at 22
and I think of how many of us feel inadequate to tackle
our dreams and so we justā¦ we hold off, or weā¦ we refuse
to have dreams. Alan: Right. Jonathan: We refuse toā¦ to even explore what we can
be passionate about, because there's
this ingrained belief that I'm going to fail at it. Alan: Yeah. Well, if you refuse
to have a dream, then you can't fail at it. Jonathan: Yeah.
It's kind of like, if Iā¦ if I feel like I'm
going to fall anyway, then I'm not going to climb
up the ladder, because it's going to hurt
more the higher up I am, and I'm destined to fail. And that's a limiting belief
and it's not based in reality. I don't care who you are.
We all have limitations, we all have weaknesses, but the belief that I am
destined to fail is a perception. Alan: Yeah. It's not true. Jonathan: Yeah, it's not true. And some of you are sitting
there at home, going: āIt is true, itā¦
I'm the exception. It's true for me.ā
[whispers] It's not. Alan: You're not special. Jonathan: It's not. Well,
you'reā¦. Alan: Just a sack of meat,
like the rest of us. Jonathan: Wow. But to me
you're a special meat sack. Alan: [laughs]. Jonathan: Worthy of love
and adoration. Alan: Finely spiced. Jonathan: You adorable
meat sack. Alan: Like a sausage. Jonathan: You adorable meat
sack, you. 22: I already know everything
about Earth and its not worth the trouble. Joe: Come on, don't you want to fill
out your pass? 22: [Sighs] You know,
I'm comfortable up here. I have my routine.
I float in mist, I do my Sudoku puzzles and then,
like, once a week Alan: Sudoku puzzles. 22: They make me come to one
of these You Seminars. It's not great, but I know
what to expect. Joe: Look, kid, I... Jonathan: You know this reminds
me of? Could you pause it real fast? Joe: [Can I just be honest
with you?] I'm not Bjornā¦ Jonathan: So, when we
were in college, you'll remember, I worked at a group home
for at-risk teenagers. Alan: I do remember that. Jonathan: And I wasn't a
therapist yet, I was a mentor. This is so much like mentorship
of teenagers. So much! You know? I'm older,
I've got more experience. We're trying to help you learn
how to do your homework, get an education,
how to get a job, how to do this, how to do that.
And so often there's justā¦ there's apathy and bad attitude,
that is really masking a fear. Alan: Sure. Jonathan: Right? And usually
when people have bad attitudes, or when
people are arrogant, they'reā¦ they're masking
an insecurity, right? They don't want you to
see it, so they're standoffish
and try and push you away. But 22 is reallyā¦ she acts like she doesn't
care about going to Earth. Alan: Really she cares deeply
about it, she's just worried about it. Jonathan: She's really scared. Alan: Sheās afraid. Yeah. 22: You can't crush a soul here. That's what life
on Earth is for. Joe: Huh. Very witty. Jonathan: She'sā¦ she's really
scared thatā¦ that it won't be worthwhile, or that she'll completely
bungle her experience. Alan: Right And so itās like:
I'm not even gonna try. Joe: I'm not even a mentor. 22: Not a mentor? Ah, hahaha,
reverse psychology. You really are a good shrink,
Doctor. Carl Yung already tried that. Jonathan: [laughs]. Carl Yung's soul: Stop talking!
My unconscious mind hates you. Joe: Aaarghhh! Is there any
way to show a different life in this place? Alan and Jono: [laugh] Alan: In a movie with a bunch
of really great throwaway jokes. That isā¦ that's the second
best one. The best one is the Knicks joke.
That is one of the best, like, just setup-punch line
jokes in any film ever. Prove me wrong. And now we go into his Museum Of Life. Joe: [Wait a minute, thatās not how I remember
it] going down. I mean, Iā¦. Man: Come back when you have
something. Sorry, Joe. Woman: Sorry, Joe. Man's voice: We're looking
for something different. Joe: Two, three, four. Alan: Pause real quick. One of the things that I love is, you know, we're in this sad state
that Iā¦ identify with all too well as an aspiring artist. And one of the things
that I love about this, and it's really subtle, it'sā¦ I didn't pick it up the first
time I watched the film, he's sitting at a table
by himself eating pie. And it looks so sad and pathetic
in this sweep of everything that we're seeing.
Do you remember, when we come back to it?
At the end of the film? Jonathan: The pie? Alan: The pie. It's really quick and you don't
really notice it. And when he is remembering
life on Earth, he's sitting there eating
the pie and it's delicious. And it's justā¦ you knowā¦ what is your perspective
on life. I'm just gonna go ahead and say right now. Because I identify
so strongly with Joe, weāre gonna get a lot
of this as we go on. Joe: My life was meaningless. Alan: I have felt that. Not completely, I mean,
I have kids and a wife. Joe: No no no no no no,
I will not accept this. Kid, give me that badge! Jonathan: I love the world
that we're here living in now, where my kids can watch Soul,
or they can watch Coco, or they can watchā¦ and they can watch a film
and see a bunch of characters, who look nothing like them, and see themselves
in those characters. Alan: Yeah. Or Black Panther. Jonathan: Or Black Panther.
Yeah. I love that we live in a world
where my kid loveā¦ my son wants to be Black
Panther. Or, you know, whereā¦. Alan: My son wants
to be Spiderman. Miles Morales. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: He doesn'tā¦. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: He doesn't give two craps
about Peter Parker. He just wants to be
Miles Morales Jonathan: It's not just about
representation of people who look like you forā¦ We talk a lot about minorities
and what representation means to them. As a majority, representation of minorities
matters for me as a parent, because kids don'tā¦ my kids don't see
people of color, people of a different culture, as the side characters
in a story. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: And the side
characters in the world. Alan: In my life, right? Jonathan: Yeah, right. Alan: The world is my story
and they're the bit parts in it. Jonathan: Representation matters
for minorities, but it also matters
for a helping majorityā¦ Alan: Matters for everyone. Jonathan: ā¦to be more open
minded. Yeah, matters for everybody. Joe: What is this place? 22: You know how when you humans
are really into something and feels
like you're in another place? Feels like you're in the zone,
right? Joe: Yeah. 22: Well, this is the zone. It's the space between
the physical and spiritual. Joe: Wait a minute I was here.
Today, doing my audition. This must be where musicians
come when they get into a flow. 22: Not just musicians.
Watch this. Juliet: Oh, Romeo, Romeo,
wherefore art thouā¦ Alan: Line! Tattoo artist: Whoops. 22: Check this out. I've been messing with this team
for decades. Commentator: And the Knicks lose
another one! Joe: All right. All right.
Whereās this guy you know? I gotta get back to my gig. Alan: Okay. I'm sorry,
Knicks fans. That was real. Jonathan: Knicks fans realize
it more than anybody. Alan: They know more
than anybody. Jonathan: Knicks lose again... Oh, he's a cat now. Alan: Yes. Curley: Hey, Mister G.
It's Curley. Uhm, I hope you're doing okay. Dorothea freaked out when she
saw you and she called this other guy, Robert. He's got
the gig now. I'm sorry. Joe: Oh no no no. Curley: Look, honestly your
class was the only reason I went to school at all. Like,
I owe you a lot. So, here's the plan.
Clean yourself up, put on a killer suit,
and get to the club early. I'm going to try and talk
to her. Justā¦ make sure you show up looking
like a million bucks, all right? I hope I see you,
man. All right, peace. Joe: Oh, I could get the gig
back, 22! I need your help. I have a suit.
I'm gonna need you to try it on. 22: No, no, no. Joe: And then I can line my hair
up a little bit and I canā¦ 22: Nope! No way, no how. Jonathan: Hearing Tina Fey's
voice coming out of that body. Alan: Oh, man. One of the things that I really
wanted to talk about with you in this, isā¦
it's addressed and it, you know, hammered home pretty
hard at the end of the film that Joe hears
āYou've got to find your spark.ā. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: And that's what gives
you the pass down to Earth. Or that's what's said to him, but what he hears is āyou
have to find your purpose.ā. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: And I know my purpose.
My purpose is to play piano. We see in this scene, it'sā¦
you know, it'sā¦ it's delivering a plot point
and this is another thing that Pixar does
so fantastically, is there giving you exposition
of a plot point theyāre explaining what's
happening in the story, and subtely telling you so many
other things at the same time. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: His purpose in life,
the thing that he's best at, is teaching. Curley: Honestly, your class
was the only reason I went to school at all.
Like, I owe you a lot. Alan: But he has been
so focused on, fixated on this one thing, that he completely missed
another thing, that, if he had just gone āOh,
hang on.ā. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: āIām really good
at this.ā. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: He could have walked
through that Museum Of His Life and felt
completely different about it. Jonathan: āLook at
the difference that I madeā and thatā¦
and that's the flip side of, you know,
the conversation about: āyou have your passions
for a reasonā Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: Is we need
to be careful, because sometimes itās: well,
I'm passionate about this, therefore this is what I need
to do with my life. And how many people want to be
professional baseball players, or, you know, they want to be a great
Hollywood star and it's like, well, ifā¦ if that's all I can do
and Iā¦ and I don't succeed, then am I a failure.
And there is ourā¦ there are our passions, but there's also
what we're good at. Alan: Right. Jonathan: And how do we make our
mark on the world? Often is just through the lives
we touch. And that's a beautiful thing
about the message of this film, and also reality, is we might
think: well, if I'm not good enough
to be prima ballerina, or I'm not good enough to,
you know, get this part in the
school play, or I'm not good enough to get
this job, then I suck. Joe: My life was meaningless. Alan: My life was meaningless. Jonathan: But the fact is, you don't have to be a roaring
public success to be fulfilled. In fact, a lot of people who are
very successful, are incredibly unfulfilled. Alan: Which drives them to seek
more and more success, right? Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: The barber, you know,
he says: This is not my purpose, I was supposed to be
a veterinarian. Dez: Whoa, whoa, slow your roll
there, Joe. I'm happy as a clam, my man. Not everyone can be Charles Drew
inventing blood transfusions. Alan: And you know what?
I have a great time here. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: It's fine. Jonathan: There is fulfillment
in living a life of integrity and goodness. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: Period. No matter
what you're doing. Joe: My mom doesn't know
anything about the gig, and I want to keep it that way,
ok? 22: Right. āCause she thinks
you're a failure. Joe: What? I didn't say that.
You did. Up here. Alan: I love how they illustrate
in this movie, you know, just with that simple
line of āWhat? I didn't say that.ā āNo, yeah,
you did. It's up here.ā. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: She has access to his
brain and his brain is telling things that aren't
true. And heā¦ knows it. But he doesn't feel
it yet. Jonathan: But she doesn't want
him playing with the jazz band, she's like: grow up, get a job,
get stability, and he's like: this is my dream. And at the beginning he shrinks
back from that confrontation. Alan: He won't have
the confrontation at all, he just avoids it. Jonathan: And now, as a cat, he's telling 22 in his body
what to tell his mom. Joe: Because it seems like no
matter what I do, you disapprove. Libba: Look, I know
you love playing. Joe: Then how come except
for church, you the happiest when I don't. I finally land the gig of my
life and you're upset. Libba: You didn't see how tough
being a musician was on your father. I don't want to see
you struggle like that. Joe: So Dad could pursue
his dreams and I can't? Libba: Your father had me. Most times this shop
is what paid the bills. So when I'm gone, who's going
to pay yours? Joe: Music is all I think about. From the moment I wake
up in the morning, to the moment I fall
asleep at night. Libba: You can't eat dreams
for breakfast, Joey. Joe: Then I don't want to eat.
This isn't about my career, Mom. It'sā¦ it's my reason for living. And I know Dad felt
the same way. I'm just afraid that if I died today, that my life would have
amounted to nothing. Alan: This is what I go to sleep
every night thinking about. I know it's not true. Libba: Ohā¦ Let's make this work,
instead. Joe: That'sā¦ my Dadās suit. Libba: Lulu. Melba. Bring your good
scissors in here. We've got work to do. 22: Thank you, uhm, Mom. Libba: Ray would have been
so proud of you, baby. Like I've always been. Alan: When I was 12 years old, I waited for months,
I read every magazine, this was the first time I knew
that there were people who made movies. And I went
to see Jurassic Park. And it blew my mind. I was scared, and excited,
and I laughed. Andā¦ I knew who Steven Spielberg was, and I knew that he had a vision
to see dinosaurs come to life and he made it. Alan Grant: Thatās a dinosaur! Alan: And I came home,
and I said to my mom: Mom, I know what I want to do. I want to make movies
like Steven Spielberg. And she said: "You can't." āThere are a million people trying to be Steven Spielberg,
and there's only one. And you can't do it.ā And what she was saying
is the same thing, that Joe Gardner's
mom was saying: āI don't want to watch
you suffer. I won't be able to protect you.ā But what 12-year-old
me heard was: āYou're never going to be talented enough to do that.ā And because of that, I didn't make a movie
until you made me. When I was 24-years-old.
I wasted 12 years in my life. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: It's tough, because on the one
hand she was right. I'm not Steven Spielberg. But on the other hand, you know, what I needed, and what I still need, is a parent who is as excited
for me to be doing what I love, as I am to be doing what I love. This is the heart of the movie and theā¦ the intellectual core of the
movie is a bunch of, you know, the other stuff that we've
talked about. We'll talk about it a little
bit more. But the heart of the movie
is I need support and love in my purpose. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: Even if maybe I kind
of got my purpose wrong a little bit. Jonathan: I look at Joe Gardner
and his aspiration to be a jazz musician. Butā¦
and that's his passion, but hisā¦ his talent is in teaching. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: I mean, I don't think what we're
doing here is your sole purpose for being on this planet, or the soul mark you can
make on the world. Alan: No, definitely not. Jonathan: But I do know
that what we do on the show, and specifically you doing
what you've been doing this episode,
and so many episodes, it's been healing
for so many of you, that he is vulnerable, and raw,
and real. And you are making a difference, and making a mark by showing
people that it's OK to feel, that it's OK
to own imperfection, that it's OK to be afraid,
and that it'sā¦ to step into your
power as a healer. There is clearly a drive
in you to do something that lifts, and to do
something that helps, because life sucks.
Life is hard. And toā¦ to give something that pulls
people up and helps people out, and you're doing it now.
I'm not saying: āThis is it. You've arrived.ā Alan: Hey, here we are! Jonathan: From where I sit, and you may feel differently
from where I sit, if that were true: it's still
pretty awesome. Because you're making
a huge mark. Alan: Thanks man. And thank you all for crying
with me. Seriously, I say that kind of jokingly,
but kind of not. Thank you. 22: I always said it was dumb.
Butā¦ I mean, just look at what I found. Your mom sewed your suit
from this cute spool. When I was nervous,
Dez gave me this. A guy on the subway yelled at
me. It was scary. Butā¦ I kind of liked that, too. Truth is, I've always worried that maybe
there's something wrong with me. You know? Maybe I'm not good
enough for living. But then you showed me about
purpose, and passion, and maybe sky-watching can be
my spark? Or walking? I'm really good
at walking. Joe: Those really arenāt
purposes, 22. Thatās just regular old living.
But, hey, when you get back
to the You Seminar, you can give it an honest try. 22: No, but I've been at the You Seminar
for thousands of yearsā¦. Jonathan: I mean, it largely
speaks for itself. That'sā¦. Counselor Jerry: I have to ask. Jonathan: The most
beautiful thing. Counselor Jerry: How the Dickens
did you do it? Get that Earth Pass to change? Joe: Oh, you know whatā¦ Iā¦ Jonathan: Just being honest. Joe: I just let her walk a mile
in my shoes, you could say. Counselor Jerry: Well,
it worked. Joe: Yeah. Counselor Jerry: Well
you should probably get going to the Great Beyond. Joe: Hey, um, we never found out
what 22ās purpose was. Counselor Jerry: Excuse me? Joe: You know, her, uh, spark.
Her purpose. Was it music? Biology? Walking? Counselor Jerry: We
donāt assign purposes. Where did you get that idea? Joe: Because I have piano.
It's what I was born to do. That's my spark. Counselor Jerry: A spark
isn't a soul's purpose. Oh, you mentors and your passions.
Your purposes. Your meanings of life.
[Sighs] So basic. Joe: No, no, itā¦ It is music. My spark is music.
Iā¦ I know it is. Alan: I have always been a very
purpose-driven person. I have a mission, right? I have aā¦ I have
a thing that I am supposed to do on this planet. The meaning of life, when you're searching
for a meaning of lifeā¦ The meaning of life is life.
Be good at a thing, be bad at a thing.
It's all part of it. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: You know. Jonathan: Therapeutically,
being grateful for every day of life being, grateful just
to be here. Joe: Hey, take a look! Jonathan: And,
like you're saying, even if Iā¦ even if I feel sad,
or even if it's notā¦ it's kind of a meh day, or even
if I'm scared or sad ā I'm experiencing it. Frankly,
people will say don't spendā¦ don't waste so much time
watching movies and TV, go live your life, and I'm like:
āBut I love it.ā. Alan: Waste some time watching
movies and TV. Jonathan: We say āwatch moviesā
for a reason. It's good for the soul. Thereās part of it is creating
your āwhyā creating what's your purpose.
And part of it is realizingā¦ even if I don't have that, even I'm still searching
for that, I don't need to wait
for it to live. Alan: Yeah. Jonathan: And justā¦ just to it.
There's so much to enjoy. There's so much to appreciate. There's so much has been
created in art and literature. There's so much fromā¦
in history to learn from. There's so many foods to try,
things to smell, things to see. And even if you're
stuck in one place, the whole breadth of human
experience and knowledge is available to all of us.
You know, we live in the age of the
Internet, like, it's allā¦ Alan: If you have one of these
you canā¦ that's everything. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: Itās everything humans
have ever done. Jonathan: Yeah, you can pull
it up right there. The purpose of life is to live
it. Candidly, my initial pass by Soul,
I felt was overhyped. Alan: Mm hmm. Jonathan: And, you know, you can go into movies
sometimes after a bunch people are talking about it, and it's never gonna be
able to measure up to just what everyone's saying. Alan: Right. Jonathan: There are times
when you revisit a film, and instead of watching
it through the lens of what you expected
or wanted it to be, you watch it through
the lens of what it is, and you gain a whole
new appreciation for it. And I think people are that way,
actually. And I think life is that way,
you know? Tie back to your Mom, and tie back to our parents,
and our families, sometimes we struggle with our
kids because this kid isn'tā¦ is not who I thought he, she,
or they were gonna be. They're not passionate about
the things I think they should be. They're not taking the road
I think they should be taking. And we see them kind of the way
I saw Soul the first time, which is āOh, this wasn't what I thought
it was going to be. How disappointing.ā But when
we start to see life, and people, because life is like
that as well, life isn't what I thought
it was gonna be, how disappointing, we start seeing life and people
for what they are. We gain a whole new
appreciation. And, you know, I watched it once, and then I watched
the second time, and I really liked it. I mean,
I liked it the first time. I really liked the second time.
And now, just sitting here watching
and talking about it, Iām likeā¦ I actually love
this film. Alan: It's brilliant. Jonathan: Yeah, you know? Andā¦
and like I say, people and life are like that,
too. We have to just appreciate
what is, and let go of what we wanted,
to appreciate what is. Alan: So, your experience with Soul
is the experience of watching Soul. Jonathan: My experience
with life and people is like my experience watching Soul. Yeah. Alan: I'd say that's a pretty
ringing endorsement for a film. Watch movies. Jonathan: Tellāem about our
socials, Alan. Alan: Well, we've got them. Theyāre @therapy_cinema
on Twitter and Instagram. Jonathan: I donāt know why I ask
you to do it. Alan: Because you're
a masochist. We're also on Reddit.
r/Cinema_Therapy where you canā¦ we can reddit each otherā¦
we can read-dit. Jonathan: Oh my gosh. Alan: So, until next time. Julia Child wasn't successful
until she was 49. Jonathan: And the Knicks
lose again. Alan and Jono: Andā¦
watch movies! Jonathan: Awesome. Alan: I have such a headache. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: My head is aching. Jonathan: You need to hydrate Alan: I cried so much today.
This was our last of the day, crying all day. Iām justā¦ it....
I'm a wreck. Jonathan: Yeah. Alan: I'm going to go home
and just like curl up in a ball. Jonathan: Drink some
Chamomile tea.
Literally #cryingwithalan
I love this movie and your guys commentary. I mean, Iām as far as a middle-aged black man as you can get and I still sympathize with Joe. I thought both spark and purpose were interchangeable. Now I know that they can be different. Itās really opened my eyes. Itās really a shame that some people I know wonāt watch this cuz itās a cartoon and that means itās āfor childrenā.
I almost dehydrated when I watched the movie... and I did it again by watching this video. You guys are the gold that the Internet deserves.
My wife weeps every time Alan cries. So like, 3/4 of your episodes.
I love your guys commentaries and when Alan cries I cry and its just a mess! But while watching the movie i resonated more with 22 than Joe. I love Joe's journey don't get me wrong but i think a lot of people miss the other message of the movie and miss 22 journey. So im autistic, my dad is autistic, my sister is too and probably my mom too but we only just learned a few months ago. So many problems that my family has makes sense now and we are trying to adjust and work together but its hard after so much damage. Im 24F and i felt like 22 as a kid, like something was wrong and i wasn't worth living. But more than that i felt like in the movie the system that was set up failed 22 and her needs to find her spark. (Kinda like how schools fail us in many ways but especially kids who need a bit more, much like the Jerry's, teachers don't necessarily care what happens to you after you finish with their class, the rest is up to you) The Great before is like an intense playground where souls can find a reason to go to earth not a purpose, a spark of life. But 22 is special as in she needs real world experience because the playground is like the real world on a surface level but without the important things that make you alive, taste, smell, touch, and other people to interact with, without that its not "regular old living". And it works for the most part but not for kids outside of the "normal" like 22. Or school for me. Joe is a good mentor but he also harmed 22 without realizing it, so have all her other mentors. (I mean how can you live up to people who have done the impossible, Mother Theresa, Abraham Lincoln or like with Alan and Steven Spielberg ) Kids view the world differently than adults and simple words can have a serious life long effect, like Alan at 12 years old. My parents have said many things to me that really hurt and if i try to talk about it we kinda can't because how our autism impacts our communication and other things that make life stressful and that we get stuck in. Joe was so wrapped up in his life he couldn't see at that moment how his words really broke her... (and the one critique i have for the film is that he didn't say "i'm sorry" most adults don't know how to apologize to children/younger people, im older therefore i know whats best kinda thing..) Its not necessarily Joe's fault, we all get so wrapped up in our own problems and life we don't realize the damage we have done to others, whether we ment to or not. My parents had a serious fuck up childhood and made it their mission to give my sister and I a better life, and not suffer like they did but in the process or working hard and using copping mechanism that worked during their rough life, we were neglected in a way. My parents are amazing and are trying their best to overcome and learn from their mistakes. But scars take time to heal ya know. Once Joe got over his stuff and realized the harm he had done he went back to fix it and saw how much internalize damaged 22 had. He went back and told her through his actions that it worth living, that 22 is worth living and that he was wrong.
Sorry if i rambled a bit, I've been having a rough time and this episode helped a lot. Love you guys, continue making amazing videos and i would Cry with Alan any day.
Anyone else related more with 22?
I watched that film the first time with my husband, didn't connect at all. Watched it a second time a few weeks later while I was feeling stuck, and my God I connected to the point of bawling my eyes out.
Dammit, Pixar, you did it again!
Nothing like watching Soul, watching this reaction to Soul, then actually having an appointment with my therapist tomorrow. I've told him about this channel before, but this react will be a "if you don't manage to watch any other cinema therapy, watch this one!"
I left a comment on the Youtube for this video. I've still to see the movie itself, but it's deffo on my list of "DVDs to buy"