The Zelda series SUCKS in Smash Bros, so I fixed it

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it out I can vouch for it thanks again to manscape for supporting the channel today and now let's get on with the video the question of what is the biggest video game franchise of all time is a tricky one you could say it's Super Mario because well it's Mario everyone knows about him but you could also say it's Pokemon it's the most profitable franchise ever so that could count but there aren't really a lot of Pokemon inspired games out there Grand Theft Auto is certainly up there as well GTA 5 was a cultural phenomenon when it released 10 years ago currently it's even the second best-selling game in the world after Minecraft which itself is certainly also Up For Debate but Minecraft is really just big because of one game there are other games in the series but they are nowhere near as well known or big as the original point is it's a messy question it all depends on your definition of what biggest franchise really means but you know how we could make it a question that a lot more people will agree on probably if we change it to what's the most influential video game franchise ever because now there's really only one correct answer and that would be the Legend of Zelda there aren't many games you could say change the world of gaming forever but the Legend of Zelda has three of those under its belt A Link to the Past Ocarina of Time and breath of the wild A Link to the Past was not only an incredible game but it pretty much perfected the adventure game style of gameplay and exploration that the first Zelda game laid the groundwork for the creators of Grand Theft Auto and Dark Souls Two of the biggest names in gaming have both cited A Link to the Past as a main source of inspiration for those series Ocarina of Time not only send the groundwork for all 3D solid games to follow but almost all 3D games in general and it's been the single highest rated game ever released for a very long time now and many years later breath of the wild currently the most sold sell the game of all time changed open world gaming forever which has debatedly been the biggest genre in gaming since its release in 2017. even within Nintendo themselves as breath of the wild inspired other games it's often called the most important game of the 2010s for a good reason all this is to say The Legend of Zelda is an incredibly important franchise and if you ask me the single most influential video game franchise of all time so then why does its representation in Smash Brothers suck so much Smash Brothers features a lot of franchises no duh and chief among them is the Legend of Zelda it was one of the 10 franchises in the first Smash games playable roster after all nowadays there are six Zelda characters in Smash or should I say three link Zelda and cheek those are the three solid characters young Link and Toon Link are just faster versions of link and Ganondorf is just a slower version of Captain Falcon for some reason there's a lot more to it than that but personally I don't think the Legend of Zelda's representation in Smash is very well done at all most leafy other characters move sets I don't talk about it much since I have a Smash Brothers Channel but the Legend of Zelda is my all-time favorite video game franchise I grew up with games like Ocarina of Time Twilight Princess and especially Wind Waker and nowadays if I were to give you a list of my favorite games ever you would get an eye full of Zelda games I even have a 10 year old Cat in real life named Zelda guess where that name comes from anyways back to Smash Brothers there's a big difference between having a lot of representation and good representation for example first Sona only has one character but it's represented amazingly Joker's moveset is a good example of what a Persona user can do in the series its one stage has entirely different designs based on other persona games Joker's alts also reference other persona games and he even has a costume with an ALT inspired by an important character in his game's story he has some extremely unique qualities to his victory screens that references his home games etc etc etc I could literally keep going for hours about how well Persona is represented in Smash on the contrary Pokemon has a lot of characters and stages but I think its representation is lacking as well besides red and leaf who aren't even caught that in Smash there are absolutely zero beloved human characters in the game not even as a spirit the stages really don't show off the world of Pokemon and are more focused on flaunting different Pokemon species there are a ton of vaults that don't reference anything let alone many shiny odds and as with the franchise itself there is a huge gen 1 bias more than half the playable characters are from Kanto and the region has the most amount of Pokemon summonable with the Pokeball item it also only has one Me costume which wasn't even in the game at launch and was added via DLC you had to buy so that's the difference between good and bad representation and if you ask me the Legend of Zelda Falls squarely in the second category even though Zelda has one of the most amount of characters in the game for one franchise for starters let's look at those actual characters in the first smash game with only 12 slots one of them was from The Legend of Zelda being link the series's main character makes sense and then the next smash game had 14 newcomers and four of them were from The Legend of Zelda bringing Zelda herself and Chic the first swap character in the series thus sharing the same character slot Ganondorf and youngling meaning that about a fifth of the roster will sell the characters it had the same amount of slots as Super Mario melee was infamously very rushed and to pad out the amount of newcomers a lot of them were clone characters basically tweaked versions have already existing characters on the roster as they took up less development time to make and of those six clones introduced two of them were from The Legend of Zelda young Link being a clone of Link obviously and Ganondorf being a clone of Captain Falcon and to this day this is my least favorite decision ever made in the Smash series as even though we're over 20 years later now Ganondorf is still very similar to Falcon the only reason he was put in the game was because he had a somewhat similar physique to Falcon and the game needed more clones but I'm getting ahead of myself here I'll get back to this after melee we had to wait a long seven years for the next smash game and after all that time when it released the world was finally blessed with a new Legend of Zelda character that being are you kidding me yes Toon Link joins the roster being a clone of a character that already had a clone but don't worry we removed that old one in this game so it's completely fine that the Legend of Zelda's playable roster essentially didn't change at all in those seven years right now to bring a bit of positivity into this video I actually kind of like the idea behind doodling's inclusion you see between melee and brawl The Legend of Zelda got five new Zelda games with this cartoony art style the Wind Waker four Swords as a side game in a gba portal into the past four sorts Adventures the Minish Cap and Phantom Hourglass and after brawl we got a sixth one being spiritrax which was in development at the same time as brawl so for a while there it really seemed like this would be the new art style for the series but obviously in that time we also got Twilight Princess being the only solid game released between melee and brawl to not have this art style since it got a lot of backlash Link in Smash was originally based on his appearance in Ocarina of Time a game in which you have two forms young Link and adult and since in Brawl his design was changed to be based on Twilight Princess which doesn't have a younger version of Link combined with the fact that the series was almost exclusively getting new games with a cartoony art style it makes complete sense to have the outdated link clone be replaced with a new one featuring that cartoon style tuned link as they decided to call this version of link is based on Wind Waker specifically which makes sense considering that's the only big boy 3D sell the game with this art style and smashes a game with 3D models that said he really is just young Link again a smaller weaker faster version of Link that's all he is which really sucks considering just how much potential there is in Wind Waker for his moveset but again I'll get to that later six more years passed and we get Smash 4 which didn't change the roster of solar characters at all from brawl the only real changes are that Zelda and Chic became separate characters meaning they each get a new down special and Chic also got a new side special but Ganondorf and two link weren't changed at all and were still just clone characters damn it oh and Link also wasn't changed but that's okay and now four years later in the newest smash game ah yeah you are no the only change they made to the Zelda roster was bringing back younglink a clone from 17 years ago meaning link now has two clones in the same game awesome this is where the Crux of this series is crappy representation lies being their outdated move sets which I'll go over one by one while giving ideas accompanied with illustrations of how I would change these moves starting with link of course and oh my God I hate what they've done here between special and ultimate The Legend of Zelda breath of the Wild released which as I said before is one of the most important video games ever released this game was entirely made to challenge the traditions of all other 3D celery games as you probably know Wrath of the world is extremely different from its older brothers no traditional items no traditional dungeons a completely non-linear open world and no big focus on a huge storyline link himself even looks completely different than he ever has before no longer wearing the iconic green tunic and pointy head instead sporting no hat and a new blue design and they decided to change Link's design to this in Ultimate and do you want to know what this means for his moveset he now has glowy remote bombs and he's back to having a boring Boomerang again out of every seller game ever breath of the wild easily has the most unique moveset potential but no let's just keep him almost the exact same even though breath of the wild was designed to be different instead of this made-up recovery using a Spin Attack why not have him use her volley's Guild to fly upwards and then Glide forwards for a bit with his paraglider which you do all the time in breath of the wild why not give him the ability to climb walls or at least cling to them like some other characters which you also do all the time in this game why not have his shield be the rook's protection it literally already is a round bubble shield around him and it's completely unique to his game Yoshi has a unique shield in Smash so why not link his side special could be a chica slate ruin ability like stasis something completely unique to breath of the wild instead of just a boomerang which isn't even real item in that game just a one-handed sword you can throw that comes back to you and also it just breaks like every other weapon in the game it's not special at all it sucks even more that he used to have a unique Boomerang back in Brawl on Smash 4 where it was the guild Boomerang from Twilight Princess that could pull people in but no now he has a boring generic Boomerang again just like his two clones EP I get not wanting to change the movesets of the original 12 all that much I really do but link has not won but two clones in Ultimate the game really wouldn't be missing out much if you gave him a new moveset even just his normal non-special moves breath of the wild is the only Zelda gamer link can wield completely different weapons that change his moveset without transforming being the standard one-handed Source two-handed heavy swords for strong slow attacks and long Spears for weak quick attacks his smash attacks would be the perfect place for those big heavy weapons to shine and his Aerials could be a cool place to have him use a spear maybe for quick long-reaching pokes kind of like biles forward and back hairs and I mean he uses different weapons for his move so why not link you could say buyless gets DLC privileges of course but inkling also uses different and she isn't a DLC character so that's not a real problem is it at the very least they did give link a new fitting final smashing ultimate so that counts for something I guess Zelda has never really been a fighter in her home series she just has magical abilities so for her smash moveset they gave her the three magic spells link can obtain in Ocarina of Time namely nehru's love Dane's fire and ferrore's wins which I think is really interesting her new down special Phantom slash which she got when she was separated from Sheik and Smash 4 is completely made up for smash but it references Spirit Tracks which is really cool considering that's easily to sell the game where she herself plays the biggest role in both the story and gameplay and it's still very much a magic attack even most of her normals have a magical touch to them yeah moves like Ford and Backer are just kicks but they do have that satisfying strong Sweet Spot mechanic which also gives it kind of a magical fight with the sound effects and all and Chic well Chic does almost nothing in the only Celtic game she appears in so the fact they even made her playable in the first place is interesting I also really like the fact that in Ultimate they designed her to be based on the Shiga stealth outfit from breath of the wild because why not it's a cute idea when they made sell their character in melee they probably just thought it would be cool to give her the ability to change into a completely different character since she does so in Ocarina of Time the game also all the characters are based on in melee and since she's based on a ninja they just gave her generic vaguely ninja-like moves which is fine in my opinion as there really isn't anything they could base any of her moves on like at all meaning there's also nothing for me to get mad about touche that said she does teach Link a bunch of songs on her harp in Ocarina of Time it could have been cool if she whipped out this harp in a taunter or maybe a victory screen or something but it's not a big deal it just could have been neat anyways that just leaves us with these three Abominations Ganondorf young Link and Toon Link let's save the worst for last and start with young Link and I'm sure you've heard this one before youngling should have been more based on Majora's Mask in Ultimate this might be a hot take amongst my fellow Zelda fans but for the most part I actually think Young Link's moveset is fine and should be kept mostly As is especially considering I said that link has two clones already and thus he should get a new moveset someone needs to keep that old moveset and with your link being a clone of the original Smash Brothers link he's the perfect fit that's not to say I wish it wasn't a little different though in Majora's Mask you spend the entire game as youngling instead of Ocarina of Time where you only spend maybe 20 of the game as you unlink so if you ask me Majora's Mask is Young Link's main game this game features the unique mechanic of transforming into different beings through masks namely a forest-based Deku scrub a mountain based Goron and a water-based Sora you hear most tell the fans saying that young Link in Smash should have been a swap character where he transforms into these different beings each with a completely different moveset and I'm gonna go ahead first in the opposite direction and say no he shouldn't be like that when you say this you're asking the smash devs to make another Pokemon trainer arguably the most difficult type of fighting game character to make considering his three unique characters in one and with young Link that would be four characters or even 5 of you include Fierce deity link the smash deaths aren't some group of omnipotent gods that can do anything you know that said I think it could work well for his specials maybe just hear me out in Majora's Mask link can use powder kicks which are huge barrels that leave an explosion much stronger than your average bomb Sora link has these fins on his arms that he can shoot out as dual boomerangs which of course also then fly back to you and Deku scrub link can burrow into these flowers shoot out of it and then Glide in the air for a while using these other flowers the obvious answer would be to replace his down special bomb with a powder keg his side special Boomerang with the Sora boomerangs and is up special with this Deku flower burrowing gliding ability the problem with this is that it'd have to transform for these moves which isn't realistically possible as quick special attacks in a fighting game you can quickly use back to back so here's what I propose and fair warning it's a little silly but I think it could work instead of completely transforming he could just do these moves himself in his human form and then just have the transformation mask on his head as a small visual change to still represent the mask's abilities being used he could just carry and throw a powder kick himself while wearing the grand mask throw those two Thin boomerangs just with his hands while wearing the Sora mask and shoot out of a deck of flower and glide with two other flowers in his hands while wearing The Deco mask this way his special still feature a bomb and a boomerang technically two super classic Zelda items and this neutral special is finances the bow is a super important item in Majora's Mask specifically with the elemental arrows being the dungeon items and the key to a lot of puzzles in them which is a very unique approach for Zelda game it's also why I like the fact that he shoots fire arrows in Smash instead of regular ones and to fix his worst move try for slash there's no better choice in having him turn into the fierce deity right I've already gone on length before about how much I hate try for slash young Link and two Link's current Final Smashes they are completely made up and nothing like this has ever been done in the Zelda series so it doesn't represent anything either which is a huge shame since Final Smashes are usually where a character's best representation lies the almost completion bonus in Majora's Mask is a fourth transformation mask namely the fierce deity which you get right before the final boss and it allows you to absolutely decimate it as an Unstoppable Beast of a warrior needless to say it's probably my favorite completion bonus in any game ever and it's become very iconic in the series it's an available outfit in breath of the wild along with his sword after all his final smash should just be anything involving this transformation I honestly don't really care what he does with it as long as it's not try for slash it could just be a simple cutscene Final Smash where he just goes Ham on you in this form for all I care it would still be awesome it's also like the most clear idea for a Final Smash ever seriously why didn't they do this all of his normals can stay the same and just like that young Link's moveset represents Majora's Mask one of the most beloved Zelda games of all time really well and considering Great Bay is basically his stage which comes from Majora's Mask it fits perfectly now let's move on to her character I actually think has a horribly boring moveset Toon Link I already spoke my praise for his inclusion but man I hate that he's still just a double clone with essentially zero Wind Waker references in his moveset or any other tune saw the game for that matter Wind Waker has some very unique items for starters the skull hammer which is just a big ass Hammer literally already has two uses in the game that could be translated perfectly into smash attacks the overhead swing could be an easy forward Smash and the roundabout spin is perfect for a down smash that hits on both sides instead of just being these random sword slashes he has currently also is it just me or does two links forward smash looks super awkward in Ultimate I don't know I never really liked that change from Smash 4. and as of Smash can stay the same I don't really care up special is interesting considering we changed the other Links of specials I think toon links can stay the Spin Attack especially considering in Wind Waker you can learn the iconic great hurricane Spin which is basically an insanely long Spin Attack that you move around round with in an Ideal World they would lengthen the duration of it up special on the ground and allow you to move around with it if you fully charge it to reference the great hurricane Spin which is literally an idea I've proposed in a previous video before but something I'd like to add on to it is that if you use it in the air as a recovery the move will play out as normal but after the last hit he will whip out his Deku leaf and glide for a little bit which is what you could do with the item in Wind Waker yes this does mean we're giving all three links a gliding up special but yes so what they're still semi-clones and all three of their games have a gliding mechanic I think it fits for each one of them as far as other specials I think side and down are perfect as is no need to change them but personally I change neutral special to also be the Deku Leaf but instead have him use it to shoot out a gust of wind as a slower or charge move so you can't spam it obviously this will just push the opponents back so it could be fun to use as a recovery tool kinda like squirtle's neutral special which also does no damage and I mean 2 Link is from the Wind Waker it's fitting as for his final smash I honestly don't know what to change it to considering we already made his up special the great hurricane Spin though maybe it could be a cutscene Final Smash where he does the iconic finishing low he performs on Ganondorf at the end of the game that would be raw as hell literally anything other than his current one would be better in my book anyways we're down to the last character and the one with by far the worst representation in my opinion Ganondorf this guy is the main Big Bad Evil dude from The Legend of Zelda series as you probably already know and he's actually always the same exact person in every Zelda game he appears in a little fun fact for you non-cell the fans out there he's the only male of the Gerudo tribe we know of in the series there are supposedly other Sims one is born every 100 years but we've only ever seen Ganondorf he's a powerful magic user and all his boss fights are super iconic from the very first one in Ocarina of Time where you play Lightning tennis at the top of his castle to a climactic one-on-one sword Duel at the end of a long boss brush with him and Twilight Princess to my favorite his final attempt to kill you in the Wind Waker after he lost everything he worked for as the great sea above Reigns down on you all his boss fights are awesome and I love them so yeah let's not reference any of them in his Smash Brothers moveset I mean he has this kick from his tired princess moveset but that's it instead he's just a slower stronger Captain Falcon that's how he was created in melee and that's how he still is all these years later we can do a whole lot better people often asking for getting enough moveset changes for the longest time now he had a taunted brawl in Smash 4 when he pulled out the sword of the six sages he used his entire princess so people wanted him to be a sword character especially considering he also used his swords in the Wind Waker and then in Ultimate they finally made him use the sword for his smash attacks only which is ironic considering they also remodeled him to be based on Ocarina of Time again but in that game he never actually used a sword that sword comes from this space World 2000 Zelda game teaser nice so you might think I'd say that's a bad representation but honestly I think it's fine he's used swords in other games and this is the only sword we've ever seen this Ganondorf design use so it's fine in my book honestly even if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense canonically as for his specials they all suck they're all still completely based on Captain Falcon specials and since his are all based on fire moves they just based ganitors on vague purple magic stuff I mean he's a wizard right it makes sense Falcon Punch nah that's warlock punch Falcon kick nah that's wizard foot to be fair some of the moves have gone a little more again on earth like for example Captain Falcon's Raptor boost has been turned into flame choke which I feel is more fitting for Ganondorf but still most of his moves are just vague strongman stuff like what the hell this volcano kick even supposed to be based on instead of dark dive his random up special why not just make him float it's the main thing he does in his debuted game Ocarina of Time the smash mod Hue draw remix made just that his neutral special and I think it's perfect though if it were to be made an actual recovery move I think it should go a lot further and also upwards a bit kind of like what they gave Dark Samus in this same mod as for what I would make his neutral special what else but a lightning orb honestly it would be funny as hell if you could also play tennis with it similar to King Diddy's gordos it would be especially cool if you could do this during his up special as he floats like in his boss fight even just by giving him his float I think he's become a substantially better representation of Ganondorf from The Legend of Zelda series as far as other moves I find it's super hard to think of anything else his awful smash move set is just so ingrained in my brain that it's hard to imagine it being anything else maybe his down special could be some kind of thrust with a sword as a reference to his Twilight Princess fight and maybe his tilts and Jab can be different sword slashes which you can combo into each other kind of like meta Knight's forward tilt as a reference to how he fought in Wind Waker and his final smash is perfect it's fine he just turns into Ganon it makes complete sense they could do other smaller stuff to make him more ganondorf-like also hugeot remix changes his Idol pose to have him cross his arms like he's not taking you seriously which also feels a lot more fitting for him than whatever the hell this weird post is why the hell does he even do that all right Captain Falcon does that yeah like I said it's hard to think of different get enough stuff with him being as he currently is so stuck in my head but I'm sure the smash devs would be able to think of something I mean they made an entire move set out of Minecraft Steve that literally just places stuff down and swings Tools around in his game that's really important aggressive the problem with overhauling Ganondorf in Smash is that people like his current moveset and I mean I get it I like playing as him too but I still wish it was completely different that's why some people have come up with the idea to make black shadow a playable character with ganondorf's current moveset instead for those who don't know black shadow is a character from the f-zero games he's an evil and muscular dude and he has no moveset potential whatsoever just like Captain Falcon so making him an official Echo fighter of Falcon but with mostly ganondorf's current moveset while they also completely overhaul Ganondorf in the same game would be an absolute perfect solution in my eyes that way everyone's happy and his potential moveset already mostly exists so he wouldn't be that hard to make this is my biggest dream for the next smash game I once tell the games to be better represented in the movesets of the fighters as for other stuff mainly stages and music remixes I think it's mostly fine I like that there's a stage based on a lesser talked about Zelda game Spirit Tracks and I like that some music remixes are absolute bangers like Caster's theme and the classic Temple remix from melee one thing I don't like about the music though is just how many smash remixes use the main Legend of Zelda theme in it like this one and this one and this one and this one and this one yes there are even more examples I could keep going they're all good songs but yeah we get it the main solid theme is very iconic but you really don't have to use it for almost every Legend of Zelda remix guys so yeah gives all the characters better move sets and who knows with tears of the Kingdom out Now default link has even more crazy moveset potential I'd love to see what they do with that and maybe they could even introduce a brand new Zelda character that isn't one of the main Trio That'd Be Wild big huge awesome shout outs to write the Yoshi noso lion the chef Sheen for the win giant firing call Sylveon 700 cpj lyric X1 the flying fire clerk quote is cool super Pick X the game deity milk and frogs and the rest of my awesome patreon supporters you guys help me out more than you know and also a gigantic shout out to Pinkie bowtie who drew all those amazing sketches of moveset ideas I had I approached him on super short notice about this so the fact that he was able to get it done and looking so great is super admirable he recently opened up professional commissions so go check out his page I'll link it down below and one last thanks to you guys for watching my next video is going to be a positive one again so my hater Channel Arc is now over I'm also super nervous about my next video so go subscribe if you haven't already so you can see why I'm feeling that way it's gonna be a big one for the channel anyways with that all 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Length: 27min 8sec (1628 seconds)

Published: Wed May 31 2023