The Palworld Video | Mountain Talk

all right hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another Mountain talk if you have not been here before these are sort of our less formal discussions where we kind of just shoot the [ __ ] and talk about things that have been on our mind this video of course is going to be about power world a game that has taken the internet completely over as of recent and rightfully so it has sold a pretty crazy 8 million copies I think uh in the first five days of it being out and keep in mind that number is only on Steam so people are playing the crap out of this game and not only that but just on socials people are talking about it nonstop both crazy good things and both crazy bad things and I wanted to sit down with you guys talk about all this because I made a little list of things I wanted to talk about and there's actually so much to talk about with this game because it just is a very uh divisive people people's opinions are very split on this game so I'm very happy and excited to be talking about this now at the time of recording this I have a decent amount of hours but nothing crazy I probably have around 8 to n hours in the game I'm currently level 15 I'd probably be a lot higher level if I spent all those hours grinding but a lot of those hours are SP house building which you might see in the gameplay I'm not really sure what the game play is going to be but I I spent a lot of hours building a house I love building houses in survival games I I like that aspect which is not the beauty of the game itself you know it really allows you to be creative and free with how you want to play the game but uh most people what most people are really upset about and what the big discussion about is the use of assets I think a lot of people are uh claiming can feel that power world has taken a lot of assets from Pokemon and is using them without you know right without the you know blah blah blah you now I'm not u a law guy I don't I'm not going to sit here and tell you how the law works and what's right and what's wrong I'm not I'm not uh educated on that kind of stuff but what I am educated on is just basic ethics of You Know video game design morality Compass type stuff and also just how the game plays and ultimately does this stuff kind of matter you know these are the kind of things I kind of want to talk about in this mountain talk so let's get right into that this part of the discussion and this is a hard thing to talk about really cuz when you get into like you know getting about plagiarism with art especially it's just really hard to know where to draw the line and what to call what I think one people that people really fail to remember not everyone but a lot of the people who have been vocal on Twitter fail to remember is that it's hard to create original art in the space you know what I mean have you ever discussed with your friends like new Pokémon ideas and you know you have like two or three and then you kind of just sit around and like like damn you know they've made a lot of Pokemon based on a lot of different things it's hard to come up with new stuff and I'm constantly impressed with game freak's ability to come up with new stuff you know I thought they kind of went through a dry period me personally I kind of didn't like the designs that they did and um I didn't really like the X and Y or um the Sun and Moon I'm blanking on on the the names and you know a couple other games I thought they were lacking and I was really impressed with the scarlet and violet ones I was really happy and I was really impressed that they were able to come up with new ideas still and you know I have faith that they will going forward but it's difficult it's hard and especially when you're in a new game like power and you're basing your monsters off of you know certain uh you know things of things in a mythology or you know fantasy you know of course they're going to look similar the one that comes to mind immediately is uh there is a bug fighting a big black rhinoceros beetle type thing in world and when I saw it my first thought is like oh obviously this is Mega Heracross it it's very spoton but after a while of thinking it's like okay well they're basing off a rhinoceros beetle it's like realistically how different do I want it to be you know the rhinoceros beetle is what it is they're taking a lot of qualities like that initial horn and it's just overall bulk it it when you're basing it off these things it's hard to really you know it it's unfair I guess to call it raw plagiarism when they're just based on off the same thing it's not that crazy of an assumption uh if you look closely at the game playay I kind of did a stupid thing cuz you know I'm a dick I'm a big Pokemon supporter uh you know I tried to nickname all of my pals after the Pokemon I thought they were the most alike and it started off as a joke but it kind of became a pretty interesting exercise because you know there were somewhere it was so quick and so easy you know this guy is obviously this uh e E3 or deer I don't know how to pronounce his name that's so clearly xerus it was just easy but then you get to some other where it's a little bit harder you know like cat pretty or uh even hang you uh I'm trying to think of some of the early like Route One guys that everyone would know uh there's like that guy that looks like snub see if I can pull these up let's see here oh yeah lamb ball uh kativa even looked pretty different now it's easy to say you know I called my Lambo wulu and kativa snub but to be fair I think they're different enough I wouldn't call these plagiarism chickp pea is literally just a chicken that's I think that's what I nicknamed them as well um but with that said that even though there are a lot of original ones there are very very many that I think are very clearly ripoffs there's the one that looks like Eevee Nightwing is so clearly star Raptor it's just hilarious uh we had like little like uh Shaman in different types which I thought was pretty cute um and then like there's just some general like I don't know like this is where I think it's hard to call like what's playr and what's not cuz like gumas or gum b or whatever kind of looks like SE do and like ditto you know what I mean combined maybe they you know maybe they took inspiration you here's this word inspiration again but you know these are the ones where it's like it's kind of hard to say and I I think it's unfair to immediately call it plagiarism even though I kind of do think maybe a little bit especially with when we talk about game mechanics too there's just a lot of uh a lot of General thievery that goes on I think on this game de but what does this ultimately add up to to you know what game quality is power and I've got to say after the small little bit that I've spent playing it it's actually pretty damn good now I'm going to compare this uh game mostly to scarlet and violet going forward because this is the most recent Pokemon game and you know I think it's what most people have most freshly in their minds when having these discussions I think that makes the most sense people want to bring up rcus too you can bring up rcus ultimately it's not that much different and I think that's what people are really frustrated about now with Pokemon is just how standard and static the game has become you know and this is coming from someone who loves Pokemon and loves the formula I've so much fun playing every Pokemon game I buy them all and I play tons of hours in them but even me as someone who loves it I can understand and respect the frustration that other fans have playing the game because you know it's just such a wealthy you know I bring this up a little bit in this shiny video but when you're such a wealthy company you bring in so much profit you have so much money to work with your margin of eror Trigg a little bit and people become a bit more uh expecting of the products that you're going to put out you know what I mean I think that that's fair that makes sense especially when you talk about power world and how much little budget it was given compared to Pokemon you know it kind of almost like for me makes up that you know some of the designs are kind of stolen because they don't have tons of money to throw at artists to design new stuff and not only that but just the prestige that Pokemon has artists want to go there I you know I'm sure I would assume they pay pretty good and even if they didn't pay pretty good just having that on your resume I'm sure would be beautiful power has none of that you know what I mean they're playing on hard mode for you know you know in a weird way to put it but it's true and the fact that they're able to still put out a quality game despite that I think says a ton uh you know I think a scary thing that game freak is you know got to be thinking about a little bit is like okay if power world you know you know legally everything gets worked out everything's all the up and up with how much money this game made I would not be surprised to see a power world 2 you know in the far Horizon and if they have money in that it the game could only go up from there and the potential is only going to be you know higher the ceiling is going to increase now with that you know people are going to start holding it to higher standards which is maybe the downfall of Pokemon right now but I think that's a good thing and you know I think that that competition for game freak is really what game freak has needed for a while because there's been and I don't even know if power will be competition you know it's hyped now but will it stand the test of time I don't think so it's just can the people that are you know complaining and talking can we make enough noise to where game freak hears us and you know that's really the goal right but the game play is really nice you know it it it feels nice to you know have that XP bar you know something to work towards Tech Tree is super fun it makes you feel like you're always making you know impactful decisions when you level up you have to make a choice you know am I going to put my upgrade point into this to make my house look better or am I going to play a bit more serious get these items that are going to help make me more efficient these choices are kind of fun for a player to make and it allows you to play with play different play Styles um probably my favorite thing in the game right now is just how you can make the pals work on your little area it actually makes it feel good you know you feel motivated to upgrade your little PO Box because then you can actually have more workers which then makes your area more efficient and that's really awesome especially from a survival standpoint I think a lot of people love that idea of automating stuff you know in Minecraft it's all Redstone this and all that stuff like that even Terraria has you know automation you know ways to automate stuff people like that you know being able to like create these machines that kind of just do all the work for you and power world kind of has that with the pals uh it kind of gives you good focus when you're just constantly trying to upgrade your PO box and it also kind of provides as a tutorial in a way too because it keeps you may make sure that you're knocking all these check boxes making sure you're doing everything that you need to be doing which is super cool it it it makes it uh really enjoyable for the player in my opinion you got to love the good old breath of the wild parag glider that it seems so many games have been implementing and they even went a step further and said suck it we're going to do the whole mountain climbing energy system too uh the energy pretty much works the same way as breath of the wild the whole climbing it's even funny you can uh in breath of the wild if You' played the game you know about uh when you climb up the mountain and your energy gets low and you kind of just get your butt onto like a little bit of a part of like a cliff Edge so you can get your energy to come back up and then continue your climb I mean all that stuff it works here in power which is pretty hilarious but it feels good you know I I like the I like the way it feels you know it's weird you have to battle in your mind it's like obviously this thing is stolen but it's like also you know quote unquote you just call it inspiration it's it was inspired by breath of the W okay you know and what really matters at least to me is what is the final product and the final product it's decent it is it is good and it's I think it's valid of a little bit of thievery maybe with that said though it is pretty shameful how much stuff is stolen it just feels a little bit uh unnecessary to it even certain like the the technology tree UI is so Arc like did we you could have just at least made it a different color or it's just so easy to make it look different you could even have like the layout be the same but just change the way it looks a little bit I it's actually crazy that they can kind of just get away with that but again it's like what are you going to do like just give Ark the right to Blue [ __ ] UI like it doesn't it doesn't work like that so it's very slippery slope and they've played the game well I can't I can't be mad at but you go over you look at like these like little boss Arenas and then you go play Elden ring and you look at those little boss Arenas it's just like what like what it's just crazy it's it's baffling it actually is baffling um I even saw like a tree uh on a man there was a YouTuber that put out a really good I I'll link it here but U they just put out a really good video which it's like all these similarities and it's like it's crazy it's actually crazy how spot on some of the things are that they've taken inspiration from now I'm going to say something that is completely unfair to the Game Dev of power world and I'm going to admit that before I say it but when you do stuff like this to me it really comes off as making a product to make money rather than a product that you really care about and you know to a lot of people and maybe to everyone that's a stupid thing to say because realistically it's like that is yeah that's the point right every game is out is that's put out is made to make money right the iy wants to make money so that he can live and eat food and all that stuff right but it there's just a different level with this when you just see this game you know it takes such a popular concept like Pokemon and give it guns and it taking all the stuff from other games the lack of creativity and Imagination from the dev it just makes it feel like this was something that was pumped out purely just to make money and I think that just doesn't sit right with a lot of people and I think that's why a lot of people are so quick to get upset about this game because you know it you know it feels it just feels disingenuous but again it's unfair to say that cuz we don't know what the dev's thought process was maybe he did put a lot of love and care into it or maybe it started off as a money project and as he kind of got deeper and deeper into it he kind of fell in love with it and you know what I mean and also ultimately it doesn't [ __ ] matter if the person who made it cares about it or not what really matters is the end product as a consumer that's what they're going to care about always is the end product so I guess it's just kind of waffling from someone who is also likes to do Game Dev and kind of sees the other side of it but I don't know I don't know I'm kind of curious what you guys have to say about that part cuz while I do think it's unfair to make that claim it it's really how I feel when I see this game it just comes off as a game that was purely made as a product rather than you know just something with you know love put into it like Hollow night is a game we recently played on this channel that was a game that I felt like you know that's just the difference right there's love put into that there's care put into that you know what I mean the guy who made that was probably excited to to show that to his family you know the power's probably the same I'm sure but it's just a different level of uh passion I think that you can really feel in these games maybe that's silly maybe that's not despite this though I think if you are a fan of Pokemon you should want power world to do well I genuinely do think that I said this a little bit before but game freak more than anything needs competition they need to feel a little bit of pressure because again this is another maybe offensive claim so I'll admit that but it just feels like game freak doesn't care anymore it just feels like they have become like they know that people are going to eat up whatever they put out maybe not so much the devs but the marketing team whoever's pushing them out you know the game's out before they're really complete before they're ready these people are driving me bonkers you know what I mean whichever higher up thinks it's okay to drop a game at 15 frames on the switch it's crazy to me you know there's so many beautiful We're not gonna go down this Rabbit Hole actually I'm gonna deny it but Pokemon in general sh needs to be held to a higher standard for how much money it brings in for how many people play it for being literally the reason why people buy switches a lot of people you know breath of the wild is one of those games where people bought switches to play it Pokemon is very much the same way Mario is the same way you just can't go half ass on these games man especially the mainline ones if you want to half ass you know some experimental BS or you know just whatever something new something random I'm down for that these Mainline games need to be held to a higher standard and competition is going to help that and make sure that that happens more often which is important I personally think that a lot of people are choosing to be very vocal about their happiness with power world mostly in part because of their dissatisfaction with Pokemon currently you know what I mean you don't see too many people out there saying wow power is such a great game because XX and X it's you know it's a lot of comparison it's a lot of oh power world does this better than Pokemon or power world is doing this so much better than Pokemon it's it's always the comparison and I think that really comes from people's frustration with current Pokemon you know when scarlet and violet first dropped people were very vocal about how unhappy they were with the formula and how just static it was people crave something new and power is that you know could you imagine a game like power but with Pokemon's funding and with Pokemon just Pokemon you know what I mean instead of Pals and you know just having you know people people often say you know this is what Rus should have been you know rcus should have had this level of you know chopping up some Pals or chopping up Pokémon maybe putting them into a rice bowl or whatever and Scarlet and violet has touched on that a little bit with some of their food options you know they've they've made it very clear that we eat the Pokemon I would love to see a more Primal version maybe even geared towards older audiences cuz I think really it is the older audiences that they're the most frustrated with how complacent Pokemon's been in later years people just want something fresh they've been playing the same game for literally over 20 years now I think clearly a leaf green and fire red as the day I'm recording this turned 20 today which is insanity people are tired of the formula they want something new and just with with how much resources Pokemon company has available I would just love to see them Branch out and get more experimental and not be afraid to take risks which I understand is easier said than done a company like Pokemon a company like Nintendo they don't really get to take risks you know when they put out a game and it's bad people go hard on them and you know disrespect them they Mario has a great system where it's like Mario and the main lines and they have like their Wario or Luigi goofball games and people kind of are able to treat those games a little less seriously and Pokemon has that too right with like Pokemon Ranger and Mystery Dungeon people don't really take those games as seriously so you could use those moments to experiment I think the Legends is series is going to be a great way for them to do that if they want to in the future and it's I'm kind of curious like do you guys think there's any possibility of like a Pokémon World dropping I don't think so but it's in interesting that this game has done so well and people have enjoyed it so much I just feel like Pokemon needs to it would be such a missed opportunity for them to not realize that people want something new something like this you know and power is such a mediocre game I'm not I apologize anyone loves it I'm sorry but I think personally it's just such a medium level game but people you know are people are happy to treat uh people are happy to rate a 6 out of 10 game and turn it into an eight because you're comparing it to a four you know when you compare a six to a four the six all of a sudden feels like an eight and that's how I feel like poke people have Pokemon scarlet and violet even though I think scarlet and violet is a better game than power world you know for me that's a no-brainer I actually wouldn't judge someone who says that they like power world more they think power world is more engaging more fun there's simply more to do and that's kind of undeniable you know in Pokemon what do you do you run around you catch Pokemon and you do the gym battles uh you know I do self-imposed stuff I like to get the shiny charm cuz I think that makes the game a lot more fun but if you're not doing stuff like that the game is pretty bland and there's not a lot to do admittedly but when you look at Power there's a lot to do there's bosses there's Tech trees there's leveling there's Automation in the base there's base crafting I didn't even talk about the base crafting you can get lost in hours and hours and hours of Base crafting you know people are showing off their Builds on Twitter and stuff like that it's a great way to just promote the game too it's there's just so much to do in world when you compare it to a manline Pokemon game so it's hard to say that people who prefer that experience are wrong it's kind of impossible actually it it it is its own game and its own right and that's why I don't think just stealing the designs stealing couple mechanics here and there I enough to call it a horrible Pokemon ripoff realistically the gam play is nothing like it the Pokemon similarities really do stop at the the pals the Pokemon with that said there's even shiny Pals which is so goddamn Shameless but they are not Evolutions which is a really big bummer because I've you know Evolutions are really my favorite thing about Pokemon I think really I love the evolutions but if you look at the pals there's some sneaky Evolutions even though they don't directly evolve like the penu penguin guy like pen King get out of here bro that's an evolution and I'm sure there's some other ones too but man so yeah power world is definitely one hell of a game it's very interesting and people sure as all have opinions about it I would love to hear what your guys' opinion are what do you think about power world should it burn to the ground should the Japanese company should Pokemon I don't know why I call the Japanese company should Pokemon put their clamps on them and tie them down one other thing I didn't realize is uh Power was made in Japan and I thought it was made in America maybe that was why they were able to like get away with it so well but they're in the Poke they're in the Pokemon company's back door so if the Pokemon company wants to you know do legal action they will and they know their rights better than anyone you know nintend has a good history of uh not being afraid to take down what they want to take down you know what I mean so I I would not uh I would not try to White night for Pokemon and freak out they know what they're doing they have a good grasp of their company especially when it comes to who's dipping their hands into their wallet so definitely if you're freaking out on Twitter trying to White night for the game I would relax and also if you're a Die Hard p p World supporter Fu Pokemon's better oh actually before I do the outro one other thing I want to talk about too is the p uh words I ultimately think the power world oh my God I can't do words I ultimately think the power is in game freak's hands um really I really do think that because ultimately people want Pokemon they really do and you know power on is scratching that creative Pokemon itch that I think a lot of people have but at the end of the day if game freak comes out with a better product people are going to gravitate towards that anyways you know people are going to go for the bigger name so I just am curious to see if do game forg even give a [ __ ] CU if they do and you know they kind of kick it into gear we could do some awesome things coming forward in the future I'm a little bit skeptical of if that's going to happen I'm not really sure if I had that much faith in Pokemon wanting to take any risks you know ultimately like I said I think they know that people are going to buy their game no matter what and whether power world does good or bad it probably will not matter too much and I'm curious see if there's going to be a power world too maybe if it sticks around for long enough it could start to cause a problem for them but as of now my my hopes are low but oh man like I said I'm very curious what you guys have to think about this what are your opinions on the power world vers Pokemon debate where do you stand is it morally right is it wrong I don't know I'm not a equipped to decide but I am equipped to talk about it and just you know say random ass [ __ ] so I'm glad that you were here to listen to it and please please please let me hear your opinion if you enjoyed this please listen to the next one feel free to comment cuz I do respond to all comments and I will see you guys all in the next one goodbye

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Published: Sun Feb 04 2024