look at the small armed solutions many of you are familiar with the I know what the best word is to do but the complete screw-up of the XM ones XM 17 program the fact that we still want with a nine-millimeter pistol they eliminated the proper trials they don't know what which gun was better because they never tested it plus all the current issues are having with the XM 17 the sig p320 we're still working out a lot of bugs because again it wasn't tested before the XM 17 program was released it was very clear what the requirements were gonna be for this new pistol beretta who was a current manufacturer could offer new weapons and is a weapons improvement not necessarily have to have the requirements out but they could submit you know an update of their firearm and they get a very well thought out plan of a better way to save the government a lot of money save logistical issues and stay with a proven handgun system and what that was was was referred to as the 93 now the m93 is not a US government term the m9 is a US government term the m9a1 is a US government term was manufactured for the Marine Corps which we will get to that but what they had what their idea was was to introduce a new pistol which is the m93 pistol and what that was going to do was it was going to have most of the requirements that the US government requested you know the modularity and so forth in fact it meant over 80% of what those requirements were but not all you did it offer those are at those improvements but it offered the ability to take the existing pistol such as an m9 and upgrade it to the m9 a three configurations so you could take any m9 that's currently in inventory you can update the components to the new configuration now if you notice you have the m9 and 981 and m9 a three well there's also an m9 a two which we're going to get to also which was another integral part of the beretta program was being able to retrofit the frames of the m9 pistols with the 1913 rails which again we get to that in a few minutes we're gonna talk a little about right now is just the history going from the m9 to the m9 81 well you know what happened to those in sequential order we're where we were at today just maybe since we're going with a nine-millimeter pistol this might have been a better option for the US government because they certainly oughta stay with a pistol that had a much more proven record and headed and and worked well there's no question about it it's it's fed its function it had an excellent reputation while it was in the biggest problems the m9 ever dealt with was lack of maintenance and let's say substandard replacement parts from second third and fourth you know ash lie manufacturers outside of outside of a run up people who didn't know how to properly make the parts during that testing of those of over 75,000 rounds the mean rounds between failures of the m9 pistol was 18,000 750 rounds which is pretty damn incredible I would love to see what the the current p320 would offer with that kind of a round counter we don't know because it's never been done but this was actual testing that was done at beretta USA with the US government representative there with randomly selected firearms so that shows the degree of reliability that the end mine has always offered well the first thing we're gonna do is go take a look at the current m9 pistol this pistol has been in service since 1985 it's gone through a couple changes none that's something not necessarily because of its own fault but due to some other government [ __ ] if you want to say the first issue that we all know about it was nice lag failures well the slight failures there's been a lot of people who said that it was just yeah there were your failures in the metallurgy and all that stuff which was none of it was true the reality of the slide failure problems had nothing to do with the pistol itself it had to do with ammunition and made a two bombing mission it was made improperly by Winchester the Winchester failed to change the load based off of the fact you're using a 9 by 19 NATO cartridge case versus a commercial cartridge case and what they did was an increased chamber pressures and increases Repton air proof so those first lots of ammunition you were firing basically proof loads and there's no alloy frame gun or even steel frame gun that was designed to take that kind of abuse so this would cause the relatively few slide failures that had happened in fact once that came to light bright net sued the US government because of damage to their reputation for their m9 pistols durability because this never happened anywhere else but the US military which specifically was the Navy SEAL units or this happened so the US government paid Brenda quite a bit of money and also the addition of the new side capture feature the government decided rather than to trying to dispose of all the ammunition if I would ammunition it was they would equip the pistols so if this was to happen again it would not be dangerous and we're going to show you very very quickly what exactly that was we have two slides here the first slide was the original slide and if you can see on there it says m9 pietro beretta there pete burrito when it says p beretta that's an indication that this slide was made in italy where now you have a current issue u.s. m9 slide that says beretta USA so that tells you where each one was made well looking at the bottoms we're gonna see what the difference is so shown here is the original m9 slide and over here it was the improved n9 slide with the anti slide failure safety on it if you notice this area right in here you can see where you have a valley cut into here you don't on here well that along with a new hammer trigger pin the hammer trigger pin would right in that channel and if that was to fail this this hammer pin would catch the slide so it could not end up the rear of the slide now because this was not a fault of the Beretta pistol brought us a made sure that the US government paid for this it paid for retrofits on existing in main service pistols as well as the changeover to tools to make the larger hammer trigger pen for use with us I just again I want to emphasize that the issues that were found were not due to the pistol it passed all metrology tests everything was proper the issue was a mission related it was not submachine gun ammunition used by the seals this was actual and made a to ball ammunition that was made to the improper specifications so this was this was the first major change another issue that we have is the locking block itself blocking block I don't know if you want to call it the weak link of the m9 pistol the m9 locking block was prone to fail at higher round counts now we have the original locking block as you seen right here you can see how this is all these edges here are all straight this is the one as you can see here that failed this was the original locking block it probably had a service life I'd probably say around 10,000 rounds or so maybe a little bit less well then beretta went and upgraded it and made a major change to it as you can see that a relief cut now it was manufactured right in through here this took a lot of the stress off of this part this part of the area around where the locking block the locking lugs were and this vastly increased the safety I bet I bet you I would say 17 18 thousand rounds that came a third generation now the difference between the second and third generation was additional meet if you want a few if you would notice the generation two you had the same size surface and here for the plunger that's used to unlock in the pistol well you can see how this is much narrower so what you did was you increased the tensile strength I'm this one as well which this also required a change in the plunger itself we go from the standard plunger to the narrower plunger this was a major enhancement first far as reliability was concerned I would definitely say this will give you well over 20,000 plus in durability but this was the the main issue that you would see and this was also the main issue that caused the cause this was the fact that they went with a second and third source for production of these for spare parts from companies who did not know what they were doing they weren't heat treating them properly and they were breaking majority of the ones that would witness Peschel e-report Slayer part of global war on terror these were not beretta manufactured locking logs these were somebody else's and know these substandard components would hurt many weapons programs including the m9 m16 m4 system as well now another change has been in the magazines themselves you have your original m9 pistol magazine you had it was a steel body with a aluminum follower this was the initial model here and these worked quite well then came the checkmate this was the second source manufactured not by beretta this one here is not a perfect example of the one that caused the problems but an earlier checkmate magazine these are the manganese phosphate type finish on it and if that finish did was it was very porous and it would hold sand and it would cause malfunctions and in the m9 pistol that were not fine with the beretta magazines so many many that's what they would do is they would leave these ones back in the armory and they would take the original GI magazines the original beretta magazines they did not have that problem with these now the problem was eventually corrected with checkmate to have a proper finish on it but major problem with reliability you had to do with that magazine that was it was manufactured outside of the OEM who did not know well what they were doing then comes along the m9a1 program which introduced a new magazine which was the same kind of a body with a new of type of a finish on it which was geared towards reliability the desert it's sort of a Nicholas type finish and the magazine also had a polymer follower instead of a aluminum follower now these were procured with the m9a1 pistols now the end my name pistols were COTS pistols they were not TDP pistols so unlike the US government issue m9 the COTS pistols did not have to conform to the TDP so you could take all the enhancements off of the second and third generation beretta improvements so your m9 a ones unlike the m9 would have the updated locking block it would have the updated magazine it would have some other updated components in there as well that they were free to do that because they were commercial off-the-shelf guns and not TEP guns now there were also some contracts with the part of the nine that work Marshall off-the-shelf even though they were marked the same way as a standard m9 pistol they were still constant they could still get those improved components and the current magazine you see here is the m9 a three magazine this is a seventeen shot magazine instead of a fifteen shot magazine this was introduced as part of the n9a 3 program which is one of the things that the US government wanted with a 17 shot magazine it's not we're going to go there and go over the pistols again we have the standard m9 US government pistol this was the basic pistol ball TDP it had all the original parts on it that were required for the TDP now of the Marine Corps on the other hand had some issues with the m9 and they required some changes first off they wanted a 1913 rail as you can see right here and with that would allow them to do was to put flashlights so we're gonna do now is we're gonna put a no light mini end what we have here is probably the smallest LED four hundred lumen of tactical flashlights in the industry I've been quite impressed by I'm anxious to get mount to the Rays and start shooting and see how they hold up that was one major improvement ii had a lot to do with the grips if you compare the m9 pistol to the m9a1 you'll see you have much more checkering on the m9a1 much easier to hold onto when your hands are sweaty or muddy or have any kind of a slippery material on them so that's the back and when we look at the front we have the same thing much more aggressive much easier to the control to handle the next big improvement they wanted was an improved trigger guard now they thought that the trigger guard was too weak on the standard m9 pistol I think they want it more for if you want to say compliance they had to hit somebody with it so it wouldn't Bend so they required this to be much much sturdier those were the main improvements that you would see on the m9a1 pistol if you look at the markings on the pistol the top is the m9 beretta you will have the US government marks on it and below is the m9 any one they have commercial marks on it again it's done it's not a TDP m9 pistol it's a commercial off-the-shelf so it doesn't doesn't require having those markings on them but many of the m9 e ones you will see you will see have some of the proof marks on them sometimes you'll see you the PM on the side indicating the slide was submitted to the magnetic particle and proof testing the barrel for the locking block would have a PM on them as well but for the most part you have a basic commercial off-the-shelf pistol came directly with this new same mannequin same magazine it was designed for use in the desert 15 shot so now we move forward to the m93 this was the pistol that beretta had submitted to the US military prior to the XM 17 release it is a product upgrade now what you see here it looks basically like an m9 pistol we're gonna go over something what the changes were first and foremost it had to be this coyote tan color or flat dark earth or whatever you want to call it also it had a removable front sight these this pistol comes a game with night sights so we have here is the first time Brenna has a factory threaded barrel for using the suppressor sound suppressor I've shot this pistol suppressed many occasions absolutely no problem whatsoever that guy in there so you have a removable front sight you have a high profile rear sight the next major thing we're gonna see is the safety itself many people had complained with the standard m9 pistols that when you go to pull back on the slide that you could accidentally put the safety on because of the way your hand would wrap around it beretta listen to that issue on the m93 and as you can see the angle has been changed on the slide - safety you can see that instead of being parallel like the MA and I made one where it's actually up more about more of an angle it's allowing you to get your finger underneath there without having to worry about activating the safety when you pull the slide back major improvement now also they wanted a modularity first far as hand size set up with here is for the narrower hands you have the smaller grip panels for those of us with larger hands you just remove those screws and put on this whole wraparound which would greatly enhance you know the the feel of the pistol first fires for me with bigger hands being more comfortable with it and that could be done at the user level you also have an improved magazine release for someone like myself I would have no problem hitting the magazine release without having to change the grip angle on my hand now some of you with smaller hands I don't know if they'll have that problem or not but that was another one of the changes that was done again we showed the m9a1 style of 1913 rail m9a1 style improved trigger guard now we're gonna take a look at the inside utilize a primer spring guide many people would claim that this was reading it in sheep you know what no it wasn't because reality is is the spring guide this is not a part to get it gets heat it's time straightness part of all this is keep this spring in line so there's no decrease in quality by going on the polymer spring guide most importantly this utilizes the newest generation locking block which has the relief cuts as well as the smaller smaller pin a plunger so you have all the benefits of having this from a stronger locking block now on the inside all the parts that you see in here are all interchangeable with the m9 pistol so what their thought was we're gonna make sure that all the major components are interchangeable so you don't have an issue with the logistical end of it you know you already have the people who are trained there's no additional train it goes into the armors and you can keep all your additional parts the same we're not changing out their inventory now comes the m9 a2 which we have not heard of now what the m9 82 was was a conversion process now what that would do is it would take an existing m9 pistol and its current configuration its TDP configuration and it would allow you to take that pistol and convert it over to the new and 9 a3 configuration so basically what you would do is you would have a separate component 19:13 rail that you'd be able to weld to the frame so it will allow you to have the original pistol with the 1913 rail in the front and then you had the ability to take the original slide or replace the slide if you replaced a slide you would be able to have the removable front sight if you kept the slide it would still be your standard fixed and you'd be able to paint seracote whatever you're gonna do the initial one now for as far as the frame was concerned but all the parts are interchangeable you could swap out just just a safety so you could have the new safety on there for as far as the grip was concerned the grip you'll be able to use this these thinner grip panels as well so it allow you to take at your current your current fleet and convert them over even having the issue with the m92 being able to do all that full conversions over the military look at it and still said no we wanted we want to look at a new pistol program now beretta could not submit neon 983 because it was not 100% compatible with what they required for as far as a modular is concerned now in the end this incredibly cheap price that the cig gave where I couldn't even meet that doing this however it was still significantly under you know a new a new replacement program for prisons like the Glock or somebody's on our weapons it still would have been less expensive you know how first fire is a 9-millimeter pistol something tells me this might have been a better way to go than going with another handgun because you're not getting you're not seeing any additional reliability or durability for the most part I know this new pistol that we have you have a completely new set up of parts you have a complete new requirement for training armors to use it you know I think the army looked over this way too quickly Brenda had a very viable solution if you are going to stay with him up with a nine-millimeter naturally how I feel about it myself too is if you were going to stick with that with an item of your pistol I don't believe there's any pistol out there that's gonna give you that much more over what the m9 does we had to correct the issue with the parts that were not manufactured to the same specifications that the brighter ones were that was a major issue and I said it before in this video the fact that the u.s. government has screwed up a lot of weapons with cheap parts that are not made properly Bertini Peden claiming that the weapon system is faulty the the the current situation that we're in with the p320 I think this definitely would have been a better option than the p320 I do not believe that the p3 20s can offer any further reliable earlier million has been over this pistol it's already been shown right now with some of the issues that the 17 has had issues that this one does not have this one here you can drop throw you can smack the hammer with uh with the hammer it's not going off on the way the frying pan block works on this thing plus the with the manual safety on it it's physically impossible in there what you do to get this evening off dropping it's completely drop safe you know it has it has all the major features first far as the ambidextrous except for it does not have the ambidextrous slide release that's probably one of the part of the 20% that it didn't meet it was the slide release it did have a manual safety and like everything else it did have a reversible magazine release the ability to have the suppressor on it the suppressor capable was really a big deal beretta had not really offered that for a long time if you wanted to have a saw suppress rather than m9 pistol you need to buy an aftermarket barrel it was not made by beretta but these barrels are still chrome-plated military grade barrels and with the m9 a2 you can swap the barrel out right with it to give it that capability you know the end manitou there was never any actually any made it was on paper I thought that was a it was an excellent idea being able to utilize the the inventory that we currently had the Army is if and it wisdom did not think so the m93 has gone on to be offered as a commercial weapon so you can but you can buy one of these it does come with the the new 20s new 17 round magazines it does come with the two grips this is an actual commercial version right here we do have one of our patrons that loaned this to me I want to thank him very much and apologize to him for taking so long I've had this thing for quite some time but I thought this was a very important program and talk about because I do think beretta put through a very reasonable and a very well thought out plan to utilize existing inventory and save money and keep compatible especially with as little as the handguns are used but at the same time with offering this expensive operating opportunity for the my epistle you would not be segregating the reliability of the pistol am I going or something new that you have not tested not knowing how it works p320 has not even been tested against an m9 pistol that's something else is extremely sad about it too is uh you want to replace something that you say is old and aging but you don't even compete against it you know given the you know the number of the 18,750 rounds mean round between failure that the m9 has demonstrated with our government inspector is an act cape maryland I would really like to see if the p320 is is up to par to do that that is an extremely high round count I believe Glock probably wouldn't would meet that but I don't know if the p320 would it doesn't matter I don't know as fact the army doesn't know that is the problem I hope you guys enjoyed this video if you have any questions please feel free to leave me a comment I'll try to get back to you on it this is a very important program it's one that most of you guys will not know about because it was stopped by the army pretty quickly I'm really being considered so if you have any questions again please feel free if you enjoyed this video please click like please subscribe and even better here thank you
