Tay Savage on Doing 8 Years in Prison, FYB J Mane, Lil Reese, King Von & More

no jumper coolest podcast in the world and today we got an epic moment going on we got the hottest up-and-coming rapper out of Chicago on the podcast does that sound fair hottest up and coming you don't want to be like the hottest in general you feel like you ain't got that yet okay though up and coming works though yeah for sure but it's been a long journey for sure you've been grinding for a long time in order to even get to this place right now it's taste Savage on the podcast how you feeling man and I got my man Remo with me what's going on so uh is this your first time in L.A okay what what else you had going on out here people you know family you got family out here yeah okay so but what brought you out here this time um I hate got up with a gichi got in a shot of video shot like two more videos connection come from because he's from the battle rap world so we don't really imagine them overlapping with the drill world that much yeah yeah it was trying to probably start some new types but just you know his people my people so they linked Us in type type of thing really yeah how do you know his people um they from day from one from they from like Chicago but they know him too though oh okay they know his people too so kind of like linked it in I never thought I would see Tay Savage shouting out nutty block on his Instagram story but here we are because it's like you know there's a Chicago world and then there's the LA world and we don't necessarily usually see that much crossover you know yeah I try to support anybody out cross paths with it you know that's what I'd be on well what's your main thoughts on like seeing what an LA hood is like versus where you're from though what were the biggest differences that stood out to you man I like it I like it because you know I was locked up I read a lot of books I'm saying about La I used to see a lot of like Tookie Williams documentaries and so you know to actually be that it's like man it's crazy it's real he was in Compton yesterday I think that's what's up man we Departed the car went to the club party because I need a bus style Windows while you were at the club just [Music] just you know regular yeah see that's from Northern California and they brought it down here and now they've been cars down here too yeah damn that's crazy but okay so for the people who are not super familiar with the taste Savage story can we uh kind of start at the beginning because you have a crazy ass story somebody was asking me like what rappers I've been hyped on lately the other day in the interview and I was like yeah you know I'm into this guy Tay Savage like he he just got locked up for 10 years so it's like he was stuck in a a Time Warp and now you're just back uh so but let's go from the beginning uh where exactly you grew up and everything yeah well I'm originally from 76 racing Rock guys with my mom my pops you know I'm saying that's where everybody from but I'm really the from the low end you know since I've been uh since I was a shorty or whatever but okay that's low into Chicago like 43rd 43-40 wheelchair right and what was the environment like how would you describe it to somebody who's never been there like growing up yeah for us you know it was fun it was dangerous but for us it was fun to be used to it you know what I'm saying so you shouldn't start out fighting we used to fight um the ody wells in high school you know what I'm saying but then some of them not like some of my closest guys you feel me so yeah break down when you say the low end because a lot of rappers from like both sides be saying they're from the low end so the people who don't know what that mean what that means so so the low end is from state to the lake to Lake Michigan from State Street to Lake Michigan me personally I say from from 55th I say from really 51st but some people say 55th but 51st down to maybe like 20 maybe like 20 21st or something 21st but so okay people always say that you got locked up kind of like as drill music started blowing up in Chicago or whatever what was your perspective when you first saw Sosa and risi and all these guys start blowing up like where were you at in your life and what'd you think so we had some rappers from my hood called Buck 20 big boys they was being that black and okay um Jay Cruz F dot Chopper Lagoon so it's like a crazy story so after I got a brother named D Gaines the games is like a famous uh video game video guy yeah wow so they started like networking that way like so we didn't really take it serious at first you know what I'm saying we like man like are we gonna be rappers then you know it really got the blowing up I think social started messing with the games and then it just got it got to be in the real thing you feel me it might be something to it but do you feel like when the drill wave came out that that made Chicago a lot more violent I hear that a lot yeah for sure yeah yeah I'll say that because at first you know before then we was like you know shooting was going on but we really was doing a lot of fighting we used to fight a lot in high school and stuff like that right and then [ __ ] got so serious that that started to just feel like a memory pretty quickly yeah real quick but you weren't thinking about making music yourself or like were you were you happy to just be around you won't know what's crazy a lot of people telling me like man you should rap one of the first people that told me to rap was Louis King Louie you should make something so I'm like man so he like man just make something I'm telling you they're gonna rock with it and then I just never did it what was your relationship with King Louis like and talk about his legacy because he gets kind of left out of the conversation about important Chicago rappers from that time period I mean Louis is putting on for the city like oh like I met him through to like like hanging with like certain people yeah like hang with like certain people you feel me I'm that's how I met him but he was putting on for the city I really don't know what happened to him I ain't really heard nothing from him or nothing I know he got shot or whatever then he just kind of like fell back but yeah he definitely was putting on though like when I got locked up what what made you not interested in making music at that time period you just wanted to be like one of the homies you didn't think you had the the star potential um rapping not really I mean now you can say anything as you can see you you could say anything and and but it it wasn't really that easy to me you know I'm saying I'm like I got the thoughts I got the I got the um like the life experience yeah the life experience so I should be able to it it's just kind of hard to put it in words and make sense and make you you know what I'm saying but you know they say practice make perfect so I just been working working they've been getting a little better and better and better when did you first start getting arrested when I first started getting ready I was getting arrested him I was a shorty like you know a little stuff though you know what I'm saying like cars or uh like this stuff the robbery like you know what I'm saying but you know he was shorties though so they really ain't but my first time getting arrested like for real for real was um let me see when I get a lot of my first time ever I think it's for for a gun I locked it for a pipe about what age was it when I owe you I want to say I was like 19. I think I was 19 when I caught that pipe case and was that just the reality of you coming up was that you you know having a gun on you was just kind of regular [ __ ] to you at a certain point yeah for sure you'd be better yeah you better yeah for sure what actually went down in the situation where you got caught with it so man my cousin had called me you feel me like man you got into some [ __ ] or whatever so I'm like I come grab me long story short we go over there we we talk it out because it was some guys from his block so they talk it out or whatever when we leave now bro forgot to cut the the lights on or the car so the police pulled this over so when they pull us over they so I'm telling them like man take off take off you know but he ain't really want to take off but booms when they pull us over they asked for license all that about the band so they tell us get out so they tell us get out I try to take off you know what I'm saying they grab me slimy all that you know I'm still trying to get away but it was over with they locked us up they locked me up they they looked at my address but I had like a a weird address so they don't need my address they so cause now now I'm waiting and I'm like man what's going on so because you usually it'll be like the next day you will go to the to the county jail so now I'm waiting oh yeah the officer raid in your house I'm reading my house for what and yeah how serious is it to catch like a pipe case in uh in Chicago because I hear a lot of rappers from Chicago say they caught up with a gun with the handle like getting bonded out or something so like you can get up well it depends on what what I mean didn't they just change the laws but it depends on if it's your first second third fourth you know what I'm saying first time you might get an eyeball they might get your eyeball second you might get like ma'am I'm like my brother he his first pipe he had a twenty thousand dollar Bond you know what I'm saying but some of the guys catching pipe case they get an eye bond was it was it like just being in the jail for the first time was that kind of eye-opening just seeing like a lot of these people who've been you know getting arrested over and over and over like if you as a young dude was that kind of crazy yeah yeah that's real crazy but while I was locked up that's really who I was talking to like a lot of older guys and then I like to like like the um like like the guys that like the dope fiends like the X doping and stuff because you know they they like synced it then they like they know the game so I chop it up with them they always funny anyway I always got a lot of jokes I'm saying okay so you always like kick in with the dope fiends yeah for sure right but okay do you feel like you always kind of had like an old soul where like these uh the old heads on the Block and [ __ ] kind of gravitated towards you like you seemed older than you really were yeah I had to I had to for sure even now I'm seeing you uh in some Vlogs and you're like with all the Muslims like praying and [ __ ] on the on the basketball courts and stuff and you're like the youngest guy there yeah [Music] but yeah for sure though like where are we from you kind of got to grow up kind of fast if you mean really get a chance to experience that well you don't feel like you had a childhood he's a child like my mom always made sure I had everything but we just had to grow fat uh we can have somebody come gray yeah and can we set up a second microphone too just so maybe some of these other homies could pop their own [ __ ] too uh um okay yeah you feel like you didn't really have a childhood or you just feel like it was kind of Tainted I feel like it was kind of like like forced to to go fast you know what I'm saying because you can't really be like where we from you can't really be thinking like as no kid you know you gotta it's like it's like you know something what was crazy when I was locked up I I started reading books different books like The Art of War and all this and a lot of stuff we had already knew but we knew it to like survive you see what I'm saying but it's like it's like people maybe like they learn it for fun or to go to whatever they do but we learned a lot a lot of stuff I mean I know this already I noticed I know this you know what I'm saying I hear that from a lot of people that they didn't really understand the value of reading books or trying to go out of your way to gain knowledge until they got locked up and they had way too much time to be able to put into it that's why I feel like a lot of people convert to Islam you know I'm saying because you know growing up everybody Christian my grandma emotionally Christian so yeah go to church but then once you get to read you'd be like hold on hold on all right you know what I'm saying I feel like a lot of people find themselves in in them type in them type of predicaments so when did you originally convert to Muslim because I seen you outside talking one of the guys that he was Muslims yeah yeah oh any any Muslim I see I always try to greet him you know what I'm saying I just seen he had the beard you know what I'm saying oh yeah you could just tell them yeah yeah because it was it wasn't like someone that was here or with you it was just a construction worker or something on the other side of the gate Okay so well I originally took my shot when I was 12. you know my policy went to jail he came home he converted to Islamic he came home but I didn't really understand you know he just said repeat after me he wanted to film so if he died to him but once I went to jail I really started then I really started you know reading up on it then I took my shot again like I don't do it again so I take it again and then you know I just been trying to stand on it it's kind of crazy because I interviewed uh oh block J Hood and I and he's all like super into Christianity yeah and I you know I kind of got him like answer got him to answer a question that he didn't want to answer because I was like well you believe that anybody who doesn't find Jesus is going to go to hell when they die right I'm like he's like yep I'm like so does that go for a little Dirk and all the obloc Muslims he's like like he it was like he didn't want to say it but he basically had to acknowledge that that is what he believes so that's the thing so that's the thing Jesus is in Islam you know I'm saying Jesus is a prophet in Islam though a great prophet uh he he you know I'm saying he up there you know what I'm saying so you're right we believe in Jesus you know what I'm saying but I mean for him I think you have to accept Jesus as your lord and savior I just I just wasn't working for me work for me right you know anywhere nah nah nah nah so do you not care for like what he's been doing on YouTube and [ __ ] man I just I don't know him I ain't got nothing bad to say about I just don't like a little comment he said like like about that open case with uh melee um like I ain't like that I ain't lied to you I ain't like that because the game is kind of changing now where you have people who maybe were trying to be rappers 10 years ago or maybe they just you know are just regular guys from different neighborhoods but they got a cool personality and now they're getting famous on YouTube from just having opinions about [ __ ] right yeah yeah some [ __ ] you got to keep yourself like like all right listen this man going to trial right jury trials so you can't you're a big platform ain't no telling who watching you so he going there and say yeah man seriously like oh my God you know what I'm saying who know they he like we don't know how that'll go so I don't think I don't think he should have said that though the [ __ ] about Melly yeah that was crazy because he actually said that about somebody else or he said on another platform at one point that he said that Vaughn told him that Mellie was guilty but that does stand out to me I was like obviously if Vaughn told you that he didn't want you to go repeating it on different platforms and [ __ ] and just because he's gone does that mean you get to tell his Secrets or whatever I would have failed if he said like after the case you know what I'm saying like once you get found I'm guilty because I'm hoping to get found against him try to speak against I don't even know him but that place ain't for nobody you know what I'm saying so hopefully you get found not guilty whatever but yeah you just don't speak on oh no open cases right what was the transformation like though while you were locked up in terms of you becoming Muslim like was that was there anything that somebody said to you in particular that convinced you no no so what made me nah I just don't know not really you know I I always knew I was Muslim anyway so you know what I'm saying you know once you go to jail you start reading a little more whatever so you you know what I'm saying so I'm just reading a little more and I'm just you know and this is the thing there's a thing about Islam right I be feeling like everybody feel like with Muslim you suppose okay everybody know where the moon's supposed to be doing you know I'm saying if you see me in a pork chops you know what I'm saying even though it's harami bogus but Islam is just like Christianity any other religion everybody got their own journey in the thing you know what I'm saying like I might do something like like they like I might do some things be like man he raving about this he's rapping about that which is true which is true they probably ain't wrong but at the same time I'm I'm striving you know I'm saying I'm striving to do better I'm striving but you know take time is the pork thing ever tough nah you know what I'm I'm I really man I really don't I already be trying not to eat beef pork chicken yeah that's got to be tough yeah so when you come out to L.A where you eat at sorry man y'all been I've been cheating yeah but pork isn't pork never happens right I ain't touching no pork no definitely hey when I when I had met up with Gates man dude real smart real smart he real smart and I had learned a lot from him about eating fasting you know I'm saying energy I learned from that little time I was with him I learned a lot from him for sure yeah how did you end up linking up with Kevin Gates to the Muslims oh really y'all wow they got you together yeah and and he's got a lot of wisdom for sure yeah he's real smart when you say when you say through the muzzles like what you mean like I got like group chat words man listen the Muslims is everywhere and every in every state anywhere I go I'm a holiday they gonna oh yeah get up with that brother get up with them get up with them like we go in New York you know what I'm saying we're gonna get up with the Muslims then wherever we go we're getting up with the Muslims and then we're gonna we're gonna network from now type of thing but we everywhere and they they they rocking they I seen like recently like the Muslim faith is getting stronger in Chicago like in the world in the world United States for sure why you think so I really don't know I you know of course I want to say man everybody's just seeing the light but I really don't know maybe it's just maybe it's just I don't know maybe maybe it's just seeming more more all right so look I growing up you know with the 911 stuff you know I said like man Terrors terrorists Muslims are terrorists you know what I'm saying so when my pops came home he used to give me gang like man the news man you can't always you know just a tricky yeah you gotta you gotta do your own research and do your own you get to look into that stuff like Gaddafi engine just looking into all that you'll be like man hold on whoa you know what I'm saying so maybe people doing they research or homework or whatever I don't know do you ever feel like getting more hardcore with your Muslim faith and like making your girl cover her face when you leave the crib and [ __ ] or is that out no so basically so basically um I'm not really forcing no type of um I'm not really forcing my My Religion on them if they want to do it then cool if not then so even your girl you're not worried about her spiritual journey no no I ain't gonna not she if if she want to convert then yeah I'm gonna stand behind it but if she don't then I you know I blew one up a few times but she like interesting because I feel like a Christian like Christian men and women it's always like that like they always kind of need the same Faith to exist together it'd be nice but because you know everybody still even if you Christian or even if you Muslim you still like you know we still young so we still striving to do better you know everybody ain't heavy heavy like how they supposed to be on their religion but right definitely um okay so what so when you when you actually got locked up though because it's kind of confusing like you beat a couple of murders but then you actually ended up getting locked up for like nine ten years off of robbery right yeah so what was that like like because when you beat those murders did you think that you were in the clear or you knew you still were gonna have to face well all right so look I had one murder okay so look I was locked up for the robbery oh already before them right okay they locked me up for the robbery but I had already had to investigate investigative alerts for the murders when they locked me up for the robbery nah while I'm looking for the robbery now they come put a murder on me and then uh you know usually they elect on the serious case so boom they lacked on the murder so I beat that murder I go to try to beat that murder now they they elect now wait I demand speedy trial on the murder boom now they can put another murder on before I could be they put another murder on me so now so now um so now I beat that murder so now the states got they they got the luxury to pick which cases I'm fighting two cases they could pitch pick with case they want to try out first so they elect on the robbery which is kind of weird it's a murder why you don't do the murder first because it's weak you know what I'm saying so they left on the robbery so I cop out to that so I can hear him get that out the way because I don't wanna you know stall three four five six years on the robbery so I I you know what I'm saying what they talking about man they talking about this man gonna Cop Out get it out the way you know I'm saying they a few people saying you did they ain't had no on Me on the ride they ain't had no they said Rob somebody took their car ain't nothing they just had the two people they said Rob pointed me out saying that I did that's all I hear I guess that's enough to convict you so I just copped out 20 20 50 on that that was 10 years I I had a few years in already I actually got out early because uh I suppose just because like yesterday I suppose I got like yesterday really yeah but good time I got my GED in jail how long have you actually been out right now I got out what March 18th the last year so six months or something eight months yeah that's like that it's like a yeah yeah and some change but it's August right now so it's August September how long did you actually do in jail like exactly eight eight years and nine months on that case then I had some temps before that I had two attempts I beat I did 18 months on that I had two attempts I beat them in 20 and 20 I gotta let them in 2011. I beat them in 2012. then I got locked up in 2013. into 98 years and nine months and so you know while you're locked up like there's basically like two different ways they could go for people who are locked up is that some people get more into their street mentality their violent mentality and then some people are locked up and they're just like I don't want to [ __ ] live this life anymore I don't want to be behind bars where would you say you were at and did it kind of change as time went by so yeah for sure when I first got it I ain't gonna lie when I first got in even in jail I kind of was like chilling for the most part you feel me I was like on the phone all day I'll just be on the phone you know I get into a few fights mostly over the phone I ain't even getting to that many fights over like no Street stuff it'd be like over the phone or something I'm saying but uh I feel like in the beginning of my video I probably was still a little out then once once I got to at the end I started working out you know I'm saying start eating because I ain't eating meat for like a year a year before I came home are you in some change because you went in and you were like super young when you when you first started that bid and it's like you're becoming a man as time goes by in there just you felt yourself growing up a lot yeah yeah for sure then I started seeing young guys coming in like 16 17. well 17 18. I'd be like man that's crazy and they wow like I was I'm like man that's crazy you know I try to call them games from the game like but you know they ain't trying nothing they trying to they know what they on but I'm still trying to blow them like man you gotta chill man get some money man you want to be because look I beat those I beat those murders you know what I'm saying and that's a blessing but it's guys that didn't you know what I'm saying so I see I'll be talking to them guys like man they be like man it's crazy man I ain't do it or what I do or whatever I'm like man that's crazy but uh you know it's like you stuck like you stuck in us so now it's like I feel like that age of dudes when they're like 16 to 18 is like when you're really at your wildest and even by like 21 a lot of guys have really kind of calmed down yeah a significant amount because 16 to 18 is like when you're fully going through puberty and [ __ ] yeah and even by 21 it's like you you have a lot more life experience and a lot of people have kind of changed their ways by that point right yeah for sure I mean kind of like 21 21 kind of kind of man it's like it's kind of like rough like all right so like where we from like it's like you kind of forced to be a certain way you know what I'm saying you can't like they don't they don't see oh yeah this this Islamic tape you know what I'm saying or they don't see that I see y'all boy catch you yeah it's that so you know it's you got to be the same way yeah all right that's what that's what it is then but that's why usually that's why I stay out the way man I just be chilling man I'm out of the way right definitely so okay while you're locked up though you did the GED thing and like were you I did I did GD I did some of the cosmetology I did uh what's cosmetology so for from so there's one gel I was in man they they taught you a lot one one they taught you how to cut hair they taught you how to do like waxes they taught you how to uh braid hair they told you how to like cut women's hair like all type of stuff hey facials pedicures manicures uh pedicure Petty whatever that's pedicures and manicures yeah but they're teaching all this in the gym they told you they in jail yeah yeah for sure it's a few people it's a few people that I know like a guy named wolf he I was locked up with him man he went home I think he might got his own Barbershop now off that he was in cosmetology it's a lot of them though it ain't just him so a question I got so when you first went to jail where was the music scene at Chicago like any songs was hot so I know you probably just went to jail while I was cracking you're like damn the music going crazy or like where was the music scene at at the time well I know I know for a fact when I first got locked up Sosa was going crazy after he had just dropped that his like I think that I'm Kobe I've been balling all right so he got the album finally ready album yeah which was like his one major label studio album which is like all the [ __ ] he puts out now is like much more experimental it's like the real him but that was like his one project that sounded like it was supposed to be hit records right yeah for sure 50 and Wiz Khalifa on the remix and [ __ ] yeah so how was that for you being in jail you got relationship with these guys and you seen what's going on well it make you eager to get out or you wasn't you know I didn't even like listening to music no more in jail because you know I mean this means you'd be like oh man get you anxious and so I'm just like man I stopped I stopped I stopped watching TV I was just working out on the phone and just chilling chilling with the dope fiends but so were you like fully tapped into everything that was going on in the streets during that time period because obviously there's people with iPhones and [ __ ] but it's kind of up to you like how closely you want to be paying attention right yeah you know I stay in tune with everything because I'm on the phone all day so it's been times I'm on the phone oh man hold on so I just got shot I mean he died I'm like damn that's crazy that's great so I was on the phone all day so I really was in tune with everything I'm saying so when you said the phone you mean like the jail phone you give me a cell phone okay not Jeff all night I myself I wanted one though is it just it's too hard to get it or what I mean it's risky the jails I was in you can get one but the jails I was in like a lot of people be scared to mess with the inmates though because they be telling like they you they'll give you a phone they get caught with it there too so they don't want to lose their job you know I'm saying of course they be want to make a little extra extra couple dollars you know what I'm saying like yeah give me five uh 500 to 5 000 for for a cell phone yeah right but they don't want to lose their job in their career and they family medical and dental and so but when you're doing the the cosmetology [ __ ] and everything are you really thinking that you're going to be able to get out and be a barber or have a normal job or where are you still thinking that you're gonna be in the streets or or were you even thinking about being a rapper by that point me so I know I wasn't cutting no hair nothing I really was doing that really for the good time but when I'm in you know it's good to know certain stuff you know what I'm saying it was good so I started saying that they're like man you know what I'm gonna start rapping man I'm gonna start rapping you know everybody laughing like man you playing man I'm for real yeah I came I really wasn't even doing when I first came home I was just you know talking they're not really start taking the serious so you weren't really thinking about rapping like that while you were locked up that was more when you came home no I think I think I was thinking about it more while I was locked up then when I came home I'm like man you know stuff just started happening I'm like man I should drop you know I just started drop in there now I'm taking the Seas I'm dropping back to back right because people always compare you to Vaughn and say that like you know they sort of see the similarities in you guys personalities or your background anyone that was crazy they said that when I first met him we was on so we was on uh in division six on the school when the deck had went up or whatever no no that didn't even go up something happened they moved me they just moved me to the next deck and then Vaughn came and they was like man this is dude on the next deck there that remind me of you so I'm like yeah hey man his name Vine from the oh I'm like yeah so now I see him I'm like I don't really I don't really see it but I'm like all right cool I get to rotate but I'm like yeah I like this little dude so we get to chopping it up and then we got a lot we just locked so you and Von relationship came from being inside you that's why I met him at but some of the guys knew him already like from my area but you know if I was a little younger than me so some of the guys like around his age they they knew Vaughn was for sure all right so you was cool with people from old block but just like you and Von probably just wasn't in tune back then back then we won we're not when I met Von we didn't I didn't really know nobody me personally I know nobody from the O at that time that was that was like that was like let me see that was like probably like 2010 or something so no no that was 2011. that was 2011 so 2010 2011. but his reputation was crazy at that time as well for sure he was growing right so in terms of like well break it down for me because they said when I was reading about your history and stuff that Welsh World contains GDs and BDS yeah yeah so man we got a mixture like we got a mixture in our hood and we got all type of stuff bdgd uh we don't really care about that to be honest with you so you ain't gonna never just see us like oh yeah we Super G care I'm saying nah you you might see her not liberal number they like most of them all BTS most most all like Boogie to G and all of them they mostly all BTS but um yeah I don't know like the guys like my age it's all amazing I wouldn't really care about that we all 40th 43rd so I see Welch world you know what I'm saying so that's why it's not a big deal when we see Tay Savage on FaceTime or on Instagram live with King yella and Jay Maine and all these dudes like it sometimes seems like oh [ __ ] Tay Savage is like more willing to have conversations with people that he maybe isn't supposed to be cool with than a lot of people yeah I mean technically we probably ain't supposed to be cool with them for show dope you know what I'm saying you know just mob ties you know what I'm saying like we mess with bro name and Bruno don't like them so that could rub a few guys the wrong way I'm saying but I think for the most part people know what I'm on you know they see like oh yeah okay I see what Tayo man tell you because at the end of the day bro like everybody don't lost people everybody loves people everybody done like oh man it's like I mean I get it it is what it is but at the same time I'm like all right let's try to do something different for the right you got you got a place like Atlanta I even think Detroit like you know I'm saying you got a lot of different places that's coming together and and pushing each other you know I'm saying I ain't just saying you got to overcome together and Kumbaya nothing like that but I'm saying if we could all right look bro that's what we don't like like like okay let's just say I highly like the young guys in my area like man look that's what we on bro we gonna try to push the music we gonna just chill we ain't you know what I'm saying then somebody else doing that to somebody else doing that makes you know the rate the murder rate probably going down or whatever else that's going on probably going down you know what I'm saying right but there's like two different sides to say Savage though because sometimes I'll be listening to your music and then the interviews back to back and the interviews a lot of times you seem super peaceful and ready to just not be involved with any [ __ ] or whatever and then a lot of times in the music it's like no I will lay your ass down yeah I don't know man it's just it's just it's just entertainment man it's just entertainment you know what I'm saying that's like that's like that's like um rock and roll you know what I'm saying like it's like let that parties Hit the Floor ain't gonna lie to you but oh they probably ain't killing nobody they just to my body's in the flow I don't know it's just entertainment but for the most part that's that's what I'm on that's what I'm I'm pushing Islamic and trying to stop slow down the violence and and and bring money to the city bring money to us that's what I'm on yeah because I mean that like we heard that with uh 21 Savage where he's put out tweets basically saying we need to stop the violence and people need to stop killing each other Etc and then people will be like well what about all these lyrics that you have about sliding on people and killing your options and I'm sure that 21 Savage's opinion on it is basically like when I like but he can't really say this as a rapper but his opinion is basically like I rap and I say the craziest [ __ ] but that's not really how I live my life and that's not how I I advise you to live your life right yeah people got to understand man a lot of stuff okay you got guys let's talk about sliding ain't never sleep hmm hey rappers ain't never did nothing you know what I'm saying so I mean I feel like I feel like you gotta you gotta understand this entertainment and it's real life you know what I'm saying you can't I don't get for what what nobody's saying oh yeah we're gonna jump off the mountain today and we're gonna kill each other now what the [ __ ] it might sound good on a beat you know what I'm saying but don't go do that dumb ass [ __ ] just listen to this music you know what I'm saying I understand music is a big influence on people but but do you have to like force your your your brain into that position or like into thinking about [ __ ] that you haven't thought about in a long time sometimes when you're going in the booth I mean you know you like what you like it's just like it's just like it's just like if you like if you like western western movies you know what I'm saying you it's going to automatically because that's that's what you like no matter I don't care what's how far away it's just that's what you went to like that's what you attracted to so it's easy to talk about because it's it's stuff that we don't we don't live so that's why it'd be so easy for people to relate because this stuff we all like oh man yeah police came out I tried to take my switch off and you know I'm saying I remember that you might like the song just off that because you can relate right by the time that that happened well funny you mentioned that though like with the switches I feel like that's got to be something that stood out to you a lot when you got out of doing that long bid was like damn like this is one part of the streets that's changed a lot as people got way more advanced guns and [ __ ] right yeah man they got they yeah they got some stuff military style stuff I don't know I don't know what's going on but they got some stuff and especially if you are like risking getting a 10-year sentence just for this little ass piece of metal that you put on your gun I mean that's pretty wild it make a big difference from boom boom boom right it'd make a big difference so you don't want three people Brewing at you and you boom boom boom you wanna back get you they got switches out here they got them everywhere I never hear people talk about it in LA that much but maybe they're just a little bit more low-key about it in Iraq they man it's required oh you got it you got no switch on it I don't want it yeah they crazy they crazy but yeah that that's what we trying to that's what we trying to man trying to stop Slow Down slow down so release so of course it's obvious though but like with switches it make it and make it easier for people to kill so it's like uh it make it easier but you probably kill the wrong person because because if if you shoot if you shooting a gun that's fully automatic like it's damn near impossible unless you really know what you're doing to aim it you really just waving it just like you know what I'm saying then you got three four I'm going off at one time so yeah yeah switch is dangerous they real things we ain't have all that back then right definitely so okay you get out and you're like like what is life even like when you first get out like like those first couple weeks just before you start recording music or whatever are you just staying in the house and just trying to get your mind right or are you out partying and [ __ ] no I was really chilling man I had to start running the job and everything I was doing construction I was chilling you know I was doing a little family thing then I'm like man I gotta like I'm I gotta own something like I can't be just going I'm construction nice if you're doing I salute you but I'm like I gotta own something I got I got I got I need more money it's like the type person I am I'd be one like if if if my Grandma needs some my auntie needs something oh yeah don't worry but I got you about the BAM construction you can't yeah you might can't but why was that starting I couldn't do that so I'm like man you know I just want more I mean you can make good money doing construction but you're gonna have to work your ass off 50 60 hours a week right working for sure and you don't work they talking about you like yeah he's lazy so I'm like yeah this ain't for me I'm out of here definitely did you feel like you're like everybody was talking about you when you first got out or did that not really like kick in as much until you started doing the music and [ __ ] um yeah I mean I wouldn't buzzing like now but you know from where we at I every like oh yeah you feel me but you know everybody's trying to see what I'm on what are you gonna do what was you and Reese's relationship before you got locked up like was he someone you were super close with before him every day I got locked up I mean we've always been tight right and you guys have done a bunch of music like in the past couple of months like yeah is is that like dude like what's the mentality with that like you're kind of getting them to come out of a shell and record more or do more videos than he's done recently I feel like I feel like with that we kind of like building off each other like like you know I'm saying I'm man come on man turn them up man come on man he like turning me up like you know what I'm saying I feel like we kind of like sharpening each other with that um got mad at me and Jay Maine for having a conversation about him on here we see a buzz that's one thing he's gonna tell you how you feel you see a book but do you think like is is that out of line is it inappropriate because I only remember exactly the details but it was something about me and Jay Maine having the conversation about whether he actually [ __ ] himself or not and I was taking the side that he didn't that that I am at least open to the idea that he didn't because he said he had a design on his underwear or maybe it was some dirt on the ground or something I don't know obviously he got in involved in a bad situation there but then he had a tweet where he was like seeming pretty upset about me and Jay Maine even having that conversation and I'm not really like worried about myself but like it did make me feel like oh [ __ ] like he's he's gonna get mad as [ __ ] at J main about a conversation he had on here maybe we should be a little bit more thoughtful about that yeah man I ain't gonna lie I feel like you definitely got to be like mine for like the type of stuff people saying oh yeah man because like you'll have somebody come on here and then say some some crazy out their mouth like just trying to just trying to really chase a moment and then they get [ __ ] up then it's like oh damn what happened you know so I don't know man you just gotta you definitely got to be careful on like what you what you because you can't just be because because listen the Chiraq Grim Reaper you don't want to be talking about him crazy right I mean I don't know I ain't I don't know I don't know but not even just him not even just him you feel me it's like I get it I get it I get all this you feel me but you gotta remember like a lot of these people they going back they going back to them trenches you wanna you wanna play okay and they people getting [ __ ] like people get [ __ ] up like for sure so you just gotta kind of be mindful of that you know maybe I don't know maybe just more than music or something you'll be having people on here that I've been seeing you've been just real busy man you you just who we had on there I mean I don't know you had a lot of people but you just been fighting anybody now at first at first I'm like At first I'm like oh man I'm excited then I'm like what the [ __ ] yeah yo yo probably value going down man yeah we just got taste Savage we're going up I mean see I'm I'm okay yeah see but I'm saying man you can't just like I'm trying to think okay we had King Yella certified he's a real dude from where he's from you don't got to say it we got Jay Maine we had Blasian doll I know you're a big fan of her um we had famous Richard the other day on King David you know he really doing his BD thing yeah he funny I like him oh you like him okay so I'm trying to think of who's who's weak that's what I was trying to think bro you just be you're starting to invite anybody bro anybody I ain't saying I'm the best but I'm I'm doing my thing for everybody come on bro you just done come on then okay I'll comb through the archives all right yeah no I feel you we have too many Ops on then you're not gonna be able to get the other side right yeah I mean I ain't really tripping on that really tripping obviously it's just like I I let's just make it make sense though you know it's like what the [ __ ] is they doing like what the [ __ ] what are we talking about that's what I'm trying to figure out I ain't really trying to you know yeah I ain't really trying I ain't really trying to do the music though yeah they do music but they're like but I feel like everybody we had on here of recently is somebody that you know what I'm saying they got some music I win just got anybody just something if you're talking [ __ ] about aruga then I can get behind that nah talented for sure oh yeah sure but I don't know man it might be I don't know y'all might have them finna have them I don't know man what's going on but I'm just saying though man y'all leave a comment let us know who y'all thinking something I don't know about the interview thing so you get out were you thinking like that you were gonna end up doing interviews and what was your first interview and was that a big decision oh I'm trying to see was I ever me personally I don't think I really was ever against interviews now I did have to like catch up to like hey man you got to kind of be careful in these interviews because you know be careful what you say but I don't think I really was ever against him like I like I've been hearing a lot of people that be against interview like man I ain't doing no interview with the band but now I see everybody doing interviews and then you like one person said like like you would say like oh you ain't talking about no interview but then you would talk about a real case in your rap like so I don't know though I don't know me personally I ain't never been I ain't never been like against interviews I just just gotta you know that was always my thing is that people will get on me about interviewing somebody and asking them about their enemies or ask them about a beef that they got and it's like well they talk about it in their [ __ ] music so much that it seems kind of crazy to me to not be able to ask the rapper about that when they put it out there in their their songs that I listened to 10 20 times yeah yeah I agree with that I agree with that but I never been against interviews I feel like I feel like if they say yo yo your net worth is your network so you know what I'm saying this is you You artist you pushing that's what you're trying to do of course you got to talk about that's what you say out your mouth like because you act that don't mean you gotta say oh yeah [ __ ] them and yeah yeah we smoking them man they gotta say that right because you're a master of getting interviewed they ask you about people that you clearly have some kind of history with let's not even say that you got actual beef with them but you maybe aren't the biggest fan of them but then you know how to answer the question in a way that isn't going to necessarily like give them the clout that would be associated with Tay Savage saying nah [ __ ] them yeah but would you rather get interviewed by somebody like 16 shot him or DJ you who maybe is like closer to the Chicago Streets and they're gonna know all the the mixy ass [ __ ] to ask or would you rather do a more mainstream interview I say I say both I say both you got to do both you know what I'm saying you got to do 16 of them for sure and they gotta do the mainstream too you know what I'm saying it's all networking you got to do it all it's just what you say out your mouth you know what I'm saying come on hell yeah because a lot of people just be chasing it I don't get it like everybody know what's going on for sure right you know like you know what's going on so one of the first times I did see you I seen you on the dju interview and then uh I think you went to 16 after right or which one DJ you first then 16 yeah and then the 16 interview ended up blowing up a little bigger so I ain't gonna lie I kind of got them in two or two right I'm like all right they be they be they be trolling or something to trolling it's a loss but they uh which one which one did better they get the eye oh yeah you did that stuff right yeah yeah you did ask that I [ __ ] with them both though I [ __ ] with them both I think the Rivalry is probably a good thing yeah they both want to step it up ain't no room with that they ain't shooting at each other none they just you know what I'm saying definitely shout out to both of them though definitely was there anything that they that you got asked in interviews that you were surprised by like you thought that certain things would be off limits so that people wouldn't want to necessarily ask about certain [ __ ] because it's too grimy um I can't think of none off top I mean for the most part I I kind of be knowing you know like how they gonna try to come but I ain't really heard that I don't I can't think of nobody just said no like bro did you did you man yeah man this was a few people that did that yeah I'm like what the [ __ ] but they just assume that you're going to be able to dance around the questions so they don't feel too scared about asking you certain [ __ ] I think yeah I mean I get it like I ain't gonna yeah I get it I ain't gonna try to choke them because they you know it's just like ah come on bro it's interesting though because I've seen like a British girl who uh went to your your hood and was hanging out and like interviewing you and stuff and she she was like so impressive like man T Savage is such a nice guy such a sweetheart Khadijah she's from the UK there you go yeah she's from the UK so this hot Mia she pull up on lemron we don't let him run chilling the guy's normal day so she pull up so she coming to see Reese So reesy like um I'm hollering somebody while they've been gonna holla at him he a rapper so she like who she comoshi I'll chase her husband I got the rotate so I'm like man who you hit with so I mean I'm looking for a camera crew she's like I'm by myself like by yourself like what you doing so we get to talking she's like yeah I'm from what about here accent so I'm like okay so I'm like I so I'm like man you crazy so you're going from people with different hoods I'm like don't you know like somebody come over here right now and shoot like what you think what you think she's like yeah I know I I've been Afghanistan and I've been to a lot of them so so off that I kind of like I kind of like I kind of like I kind of like you had respect yeah respect it and I kind of gravitated to her so I'm like man listen who you supposed to be doing you supposed to be doing somebody else she tell me if you know I'm like man forget that you're just gonna stay with us for the rest I got a few things I'm doing we um we going to mace a lot um I got a um a video shoot no I had um some some studio time I'm like man just stay with us because at least I know like man guys in Chicago man rob the girl took a car took her phone so let me just stay with us you know what I'm saying but people was calling her like man you would take Savage man get the [ __ ] away from me man watch the band they crazy but really be making sure she's straight for sure she was straight we ain't tried we ain't tried nobody tried nothing uh we ain't trying to that's what the comments they were saying they're gonna do that but we didn't and nobody we ain't do nothing you know for people she pretty yeah so a few people was like [Music] I was thinking while I was watching I'm like this would be a pretty crazy story of her and take Savage fell in love throughout the course of making this video well even on that time at all she'll call me in the morning hey I'm up I'm gonna all right come on put a ship sometimes [ __ ] yeah I'm over here I'm on limeron are you over there already yeah I'm all right may I come wow but yeah yeah absolutely for sure right because I've been thinking in my head I'm like K7 is probably mostly just used to dealing with chicks from his area or whatever or like have you actually managed to like spend time around girls that are like more from a totally different Walk of Life like her yeah I guess I had some classy females too there's some classy females but it's just bro I'm I'm at the end of the day like if you know me you would know me if if I like you I'm gonna go to the end for you if you know what I'm saying but if I don't I ain't you just I mean you ain't gonna like me period as I am if we cool we cool I ain't gonna ain't gonna try to steal from you I ain't gonna try to back don't do nothing that that ain't cool I don't like it I don't even like him around me like the little guys like Boogie them they don't that's how I'm that's hot and stuff like bro we don't do none of that all that back though I can't come at your mama crib eat eat with a caller Auntie then kill you three days later no that ain't cool that ain't right right you know what I'm saying if if we that close I'm gonna let you know like bro you bogus why the BAM let's fight or whatever so uh you know what I'm saying but as far as I am with that right um so there's another rapper from Chicago 051 kiddo who you guys both did long ass bids and now you're out and now you're beefing with each other was there a precedent for this or is this just like a brand new thing that came out before nobody okay well you've had some some Instagram stories about each other now you said this girl looked like a linebacker man what is it I don't know I don't know nothing about no I don't even know that is to be honest with you really for sure okay so we just trying to ignore him try to act like it don't exist man I don't know man I don't you want me to know if you want me to know him I'll go look him up I do my research in my recent voice all right bro I do my research all right so uh you know you know you might not know kiddo but this is a viral video I think it was like you crumping over 5 1 million in the car how you know Melly anyway I know Melly well I'm in melee like on some we actually bumped his type of thing then uh uh uncle's real close friends and so we got the rotating just of keeping it cordial type of thing about it though that was the third comparison so a lot of people say they compare you to King vong and no following I know you've been seeing those comments and stuff yeah how you feel about those comparisons I feel like man I don't know I feel like me personally I'm just I'm like Melly like rap he was doing this like I don't know man basically what I'm doing I'm I'm putting my own Footsteps in this thing on my own thing you know I'm saying it's cool to be with them you know like like I say liberal Nate like they was kind of like after me though but they was kind of after me they weren't really like the same time type of thing I was like out here before them but that video you're talking about with Crump they don't show Tate's face right it's like cut off like right here nice on my face oh okay I only saw a part of it yeah what was your relationship with him school like I said all of us was cool before boo boo OTF you know what I'm saying oh six everybody everybody was cool before once upon a time then I don't know we just got to I think I got locked up and everything just started getting weird and I don't know but Crump used to be around bro is that a weird feeling being locked up and like you've got people that you're cool with and all of a sudden you find out that all your boys aren't cool with them anymore yeah that is crazy because these people Crump every day like you know what I'm saying like every day so it is weird but you know I got my guys you know I'm saying these my guys so they like man yeah man tell dude because Trump be like man yeah t like you know what I'm saying like saying like yeah take take wolves and they like man tell Dude keep keep your name out of his mouth man we ain't rocking with him we walk out the BAM because now he it's like it's like he shouting me out but disrespecting the guys at the same time so that's what kind of like made me start falling back from like crazy kind of like like my guys you feel me because now your guys looking at you like what's up with this yeah they based like man tell dude stop saying your name and then you know this is broken like they they help them with the lawyers and they you know I'm saying not saying Crump probably wouldn't if he hasn't ready I don't know I don't know what but I'm just saying you know what I'm saying these my guys from my hood he's the guy so it's like that was that was weird we always literally used to be together like it's probably pictures of uh us as shows together and everything you feel me so how far is Welch World from landron because like you hang out with a lot of guys from limeron like how did that bridge and I'm running all the way on Inglewood Englewood somewhere you know I'm saying that's all the way on the other side of the expressway but it's just it's just that Network all right so kind of kind of how it's going like like we always had a relationship like like um we're reaching them and all that you know what I'm saying so chill now so it's like I don't know we just really kept it going we just really kept like being smooth type of thing we never did no sneaky back though still none of that so he's always been cool and I came home I just really started rotating with him heavy heavy but you know definitely guys though right definitely so like we we kind of already gotten the idea that taste Savage is somebody who's maybe not as interested in being told who he's allowed to [ __ ] with or who he's allowed to work with would you say that that's accurate for sure right don't tell me something but I do got respect for the guys though you know I'm saying somebody told me like nah bro like no that ain't no bro like they're not like okay I could see that you see me but I'm not I'm I'm gonna do what I want to do I'm gonna move I want to move that's just me and I'm gonna call you like that's the problem I feel like everybody trying to be one person everybody trying to or Everybody's scared to do something like I even like with me and J main nah I I highlight that a few guys from Roblox dude and I'm like man you know what I'm saying you know I know that y'all up he's not really I up but you know what I'm saying like we kind of like inherit all this through y'all or whatever but I'm like you know I'm saying how y'all feel about that hey man especially Duke you know I'm saying Duke D2 they like man bro you know what I'm saying we with it bro we want peace too because you know jmaine like level here you know what I'm saying but like it's it's other ones they like not but we ain't really because they're not they're not they're not they probably not dreaming were they not but they wouldn't though they like yeah we it is okay with j-man like right now if you look at this content and stuff he is kind of keeping it pretty cool and like just being funny and just doing this comedy type thing and having good conversations on camera but if you rewind the clock like six months you got him doing say cheese interviews with a fake OTF tattoo on his head and [ __ ] and that was stuff that really probably could have got him in some serious trouble no I I think they I think they they looked at that me personally I would look there like man that's probably looking at it but shout out to J main too man I ain't gonna lie J main man he really he really doing his thing he really doing his thing he really you know I'm saying I had even had that him like look bro you know like I know you're doing your comedian thing and everything you know what I'm saying but at the same time we can't do the disrespect thing like I don't want to be talking to you or yell or somebody then then we hang up then y'all saying F him and FM but man shout out to J main for sure man he He Man help me with my YouTube help me get subscribers help me set it up help tell me told me a lot with it you know what I'm saying so yeah it's all up with that for sure we're big J main Believers over here I think you had a long career ahead of him yeah for sure definitely the world needs somebody like him so okay uh this this one question that uh we have written down is what's up with the lambron slash taytown beef or did you feel like at a certain point you were forced to pick sides uh uh I really truly I really don't know what's up with that beefy family I really don't know like them them guys they they've been around each other for years like these like you know what I'm saying so I really don't know I it can't be too serious you know what I'm saying it's probably like you know they just agreeing to disagree whatever they doing me on the outside looking there I don't think there's nothing too serious though okay I think they just I mean you know what I'm saying it can't be none too serious I think like they just feel how they feel about it yeah but it's definitely because a lot of fans been wanting to see Rishi and a little dirt come together and they ain't really been hanging out as of recently so that's where yeah yeah what's your relationship like with Dirk right now like do y'all have one or um any kind of relationship like I said you're Muslim so man that's really yeah I really don't know I just know he was sick or whatever recently I ain't really been hearing nothing from them though but you like you know him though cause like I heard you said that you met King Von in jail like yeah yeah I was around 30 yeah yeah I'm definitely familiar with dirt for sure for sure for sure yeah um if somebody told you like hey Dirk wants to get on the phone with you would you be happy to have that conversation yeah Muslim for sure so anybody who's Muslim gets like an extra level of pass from Texas they're gonna always get extra you see I don't even know him right um get the chopping it up well that's crazy to think that he might go home and just search her name on YouTube and all of a sudden get it no I told him I told him like man I don't think I said I was a rap I'm like I'm entertaining you know okay yeah so you know they they know they know they know like where we come from and that we strive you see the tattoos so he probably like man but some Muslims take it so serious that you're not even allowed to make music or be involved with the music side of things right have you heard that yeah I heard that and like with Gates like when they were saying something about Dirk shooting shooting shooting the video or not man Gage was making some points like like times change and you feel me times changing and like he ain't did no wrong basically like he pushing the dean if you see anything you see them guys in that make us a lot oh man it might be from off dirt the thing he did he's definitely helped push it yeah yeah so I mean I I liked it I ain't gonna lie to you I liked it I he I like that do you listen to the dark album um I don't think I know I only think I did really no you're like less connected to the the drill scene with all the stuff that's coming out of Chicago now you just dropped yeah yeah I think I heard like a few songs J Cole feature yeah yeah you ever heard that yeah it's on the radio every five seconds yeah I like that I like that song what have you been listening to lately anything in particular stands out um truthfully I'm beyond which I really listen to like myself or like like you know the guys like boogie boogie number because it'd be more like a studying thing for me you know what I'm saying like I just dropped something I'm trying to remember the lyrics and so that's really what I be on right well if I do go outside outside the guys they'd probably be like like you know what I'm saying somebody we probably connected to you interested in music outside of hip-hop though yeah yeah I mean I'm trying I don't do a lot I'm trying to act I'm gonna do a lot like Park I like pot I I watched a lot of documentaries uh read a lot of books on Pop I like I like Tupac you know what I'm saying so I'm under the I'm under in order to be a great leader you had to Once be a great follower type of thing so I I watched him I I study his interviews I study a lot of things to be saying you know what I'm saying so that's really what I'm trying to the the the Poetry thing though I gotta kinda I gotta kinda get into that though you feel would you make a reggaeton song with six nine oh what a rainbow like a Latin song or like a you know them like Caribbean Vibes that they'd be bringing they say your boys got what to a couple million making a song with him didn't it Kodak got a million a million yeah to do a verse 12 bars would you accepted a million to do a song called oh six now I ain't got no Million Man I don't know it had to be in my face I don't know I really don't know I can't because I ain't gonna be and be like man hell no man [ __ ] that million dollars I don't know whatever M right what I don't know I might I might be like bro I don't know what I say man but I mean it's kind of crazy too because he he basically got paid a million dollars to diss him on the song that was wrong he did that right that was wrong but I don't know man I really can't say to be honest with you but if you that's it if you're somebody like Kodak I mean being a gangster is clearly very important to him and now he got people like Boosie coming out and basically saying that he's not allowed to call himself a gangster anymore or whatever so that that is like the punishment that he has to deal with is that certain people are going to feel away about it even if for him he don't give a [ __ ] and that's and that's crazy right with Boosie because like growing up like when I was younger my name was badass that was my name so I always liked Boosie so I ain't gonna lie bro if Boosie came out to say that about me I'd be like I feel like kind of disappointed like damn man I see you know I like Boosie for sure I like Boosie I like 52. he go Reese around oh [ __ ] yeah let's talk to little Reese what's going on Reese he is a goofy bro you got you got you got one of my Muslim sisters in the car with you you what hey hey where she at hey what's she at stop a lot you know you're not supposed to be with him you know you're not supposed to stop Allah he's back he's bad slam like him though let me highlight Reese real quick Lil Reese how you doing here why you don't [ __ ] with me bro you be doing too much on your platforms what are you talking about the [ __ ] thing I was defending you I was saying that I thought it was just the design in your ethicus [Music] who'd you [ __ ] up man you [ __ ] J main up bro he ain't gonna play with me oh all right when we getting a little recent interview in we got to do our homework our research actually you gotta payment what you got to pay but you got to pay me for yeah I got you on uh you know get you a McDonald's gift card or something I'll get i'll get your number off of uh okay well we're gonna have security here we'll make sure they pat you down and everything because I'm a little worried that you might [ __ ] me up turn you into a pack you know I love Brody hit me I'm hits when I when I leave here so you guys real friends huh that's my dog so that's good to see you know everybody sometimes though yeah no that's my dog when's the last time you fought man was that the last time I'll be having like little little fight with like the guys and stuff but outside I mean I had went to a club so I'm at the club with him so I'm not it's a little female that I don't even know the female but like we was at like we don't like I was trying to get my hair we did so so my cousin like ate um shorty he was talking to a friend he like hey shorty shorty um so I'm like she do well I'm like yeah so I sat up on it man you do her [ __ ] like yeah man let me get your number and I'm a um I'm gonna call you I've been I'll be trying to get my head did out here all right cool so as I'm talking to her her boyfriend woke up like man about the band wolves what so he get to tweaking off bust his ass but he big as hell I'll bust his ass so we but not even knowing that this dude like Security in the club you know I'm saying so it's like me and like my little brother my little cuz it's probably like four of us it's probably like three four of us but he's he like he's he's secreting the club but he was like off that day type of thing so now we fighting the whole club like the security the guys and all type of [ __ ] man that was like my last like real like when was that [ __ ] that's like when I first came home it's like when I first came I still had I dropped his ass my son dropped his ass he probably watching his email right you see okay I'm gonna be real with you I was just I should have said this when he was still on the line but I think Reese is a Pioneer in the sense that he's the first person who figured out that he could go and do interviews and just like basically not answer any of the questions that he don't want to answer by just saying that he needs to do his research like that [ __ ] is like a meme but it actually is kind of like more it's more epic than people give him credit for yeah rishi's smart y'all like [ __ ] be thinking like Richie somebody definitely definitely like he be giving me like a lot of games what you think about this here man uh one thing about reason he bought that paper like he ain't moving unless his money right that's just how he coming that's how you coming me you know but I feel like he could kind of do that though you know what I'm saying he he like you say he had Pioneer not only in in in that but you know even in the drill culture so I feel like he kind of got that leverage but you know me I'm just trying to network you know I'm I'm I'm growing right so definitely so I seen that song with Melo bucks going crazy how did you uh form a relationship with her um I think we did that through lousy um my little brother lousy lousy to Hollis but yeah he got like a uh a relationship with her so he like man I ain't gonna lie bro so he connected dots and I [ __ ] with Melo I [ __ ] mellow tough I I like our Saluda I like everything she's doing I'm I'm definitely Rockwell I'm definitely behind 100 mellow son of uh what she wrote with uh no limit right yeah yeah she rock with no legs what's your relationship with any of the guys like G herbo and you know um I ain't never really like I've been around him like once or twice but I ain't never really we never really chop it up with him but it's a few of them that I wrote I wrote that I know like Ricky yeah No Limit Ricky on let me see uh mainski I like mansky yeah like when I was locked up he was trying to stand on like helping me come home so I like him for sure I didn't really get a chance to chop it up with him like that's I've been out of whatever but I like mansquito yeah it's pretty crazy too when you think about uh Bibby in them how they [ __ ] sign juice world like that's got to be I like baby too that's one of the most epic things that anybody from Chicago has ever done like even aside from just being juice world or whatever but just being Street dudes from Chicago and discovering Talent like him and being able to help orchestrate his whole career that's that's insane yeah that that's what I like about Bibi you know what I'm saying I already know too much about it but I like that about baby so baby actually baby what I what I would say baby did were like a lot of people probably supposed to do baby got enough did his one two Network and took off and took off you know like maybe doing this thing I heard he just opened the dispensary or something or something he got a lot going on so I I like I like big it seemed like he'd be staying out the way out the way you know and that's that's great you know I'm saying baby name ain't mixed up in nothing well I don't hear it I don't be hearing it either that's great he did what you really supposed to do it'd be hard too though you know what I'm saying especially like certain people too it'd be kind of a hard product that just over just take off and and just I don't know but man sometimes you gotta take off bring who you could bring with you because you can't bring everybody anything just what was your thoughts on juice world what I like about juice world and I'll list him in jail it's like if you listen to this lyric it's like it's like dark you know what I'm saying you you listen to him you gotta really to his words you're like damn you could tell he was going through something that's why I like him and even when you hear him now like on that Thug album there's a song with Thug and Juice world and Nikki and like just hearing juice World on that [ __ ] and just like getting this reminder of how [ __ ] good he was and there was just something about his voice that it just brings life to songs like he was just he really was incredible and he man he was wrong I I just like man I just I just hate that really happened to him I just couldn't wrap that like damn man like what like I I don't know you know you always say what you would have did I don't know but I just I just hate that happened to him because he definitely had a lot of talent for sure that's funny you know there's another little Bibby from 4pf because he was dming me and I thought it was the other little Bibby and I thought like oh like he's gonna do an interview and then I realized it was a totally different person a baby felt kind of bad yeah I'm not even tuned he's like from Atlanta and he had to tell me like he's like you know that's not meant to say I'm not the same dude but I should actually check his music out just because you know I was communicating with him whatever um okay so there's this whole revolutionary new thing going on in Chicago where or just on the internet in general or people that leaking this old yeah the old jail footage are we gonna see some Tay Savage uh Classics hitting the the internet at some point well I'm be honest with you I know I I really want fighting like that I got into a few fights but most of the fact I've already gone to like well I was in the counter probably as like three fights most of my camera most of my Fighters probably like like under the stairs type of [ __ ] all right so like I seen one well he had a that you could tell they had words that he had went under the stairs or something you know so that's just where we go we're going to stairs so the camera can't see your fight and you'll get over you know go about your day you know what I'm saying but sometimes they don't go like that so but yeah for the most part I really want I really wasn't doing too much I was chill I think I would say like one time I've seen you said that you're gonna fight oh and Ruger helped you in the fight while I was in jail yeah this was this was this was 20 this one I met like Von this was like 2010 2011 early on yeah how was your life what was your relationship like with Ruger you knew him before jail or y'all met in jail man Ruger actually went to high school together Ruben went to high school so but we wasn't really talking like that in high school though but you know everybody know each other yeah you come to jail you know oh damn let's see I'm with you know so I'm like okay so you know we gotta chop it up you know we get to tell my feet you're in my jail man you ain't got nothing to do with talk so you and they're like man what's up with you it's a girl from over there from y'all yeah but like he said it's really like a deck thing you know what I'm saying on the deck we all like everybody gonna really ride together type type of thing for sure right did you uh how did you feel like there's a new narrative that people are kind of trying to paint about King Von like obviously when he said that he was gay or whatever so he didn't have to go into a certain dorm we know he's not actually gay and he was just saying that but do you consider that to be dishonorable to like try to avoid being around your Ops while you're locked up like that no no how tough you is or whatever you take your ass up and get your ass pound and there's knifes so listen in the county in the county right they got they got that okay so look the county had kind of started letting people pick what deck they want to go on so of course you got a deck full of all who they ride with from out west or whatever whatever then you got one deck for all biddies and who they ride with or whatever so nine you could have said or something and then they taking your ass on that with you no so look this mop this my thing you got a few options you got a few options you gone all right so like if like like I said before if they out then I [ __ ] it I'm just gonna go ahead take off and when they ass you know what I'm saying they're gonna have to take me off the deck anyway as soon as I get them as soon as I pull my [ __ ] in I'm gonna take off when they ask in the day room and we out that [ __ ] we're gonna do this right here because I even let y'all plan or nothing we better go take care of this [ __ ] is right here but as you see they won't even know man Vaughn was trolling well you know I I don't agree with this but in jail a lot of [ __ ] be like playing all like that gay [ __ ] like that well like I ain't gonna say gay [ __ ] but you know like that dookies and Savage Life not even that not some real violence right that's just weird not even that like like they like I don't know like gas for some reason they like we want to like play like like like they're gay like oh what's up about the bamwood yeah yeah white people do that all the time that's just normal guys get it you're not lying I don't get it they but in jail they do it a lot so Von was trolling bye you know like he was trolling like dude I ain't never seen Tim do like but you know they always gonna try to say some though but there is another clip where he said he didn't want to go to PC because little Jay was in there right he probably want to go to PC because now he said PC now he probably like man I want to go to PC right I really ain't trying to go there for real because sometimes they'll make you go you try to play like yeah PC they say no no you're going to PC now you're like man I'm at PC who want to go to PC so he not I don't see him ducking I don't see me this is me personally I don't see him ducking nobody like what are you ducking J for right I don't see him ducking nobody do you think differently a little Jay after seeing some of that footage from him while he was locked up man I have been heard a lot of that man I don't know he said I am so I don't know man right Jay said I am I heard him on the phone with Jay Maine going hard saying that it was not him but even like Jay Maine like this is his boy like he's telling J man that's not me and James just kind of laughing and being like I don't know bro I seen it I feel like it's yeah he's building a yellow Sid yeah [ __ ] funny man but I don't know bro like you know I mean to each his own man I mean I don't know I just me personally like whoa could you be homies with somebody still if you knew that they were on that type of time homies like like when I when I hang with Jay basically what you're saying like yeah if it was your guy would that mean that you like couldn't hang out with him anymore or man listen I got gay cousins and stuff man you know what I'm saying so I love my cousin you know I don't know like I be seeing them you know cause whatever because when the guys no I don't feel like I'm not like no homophobe but nothing you feel me but like I just feel like the type of life we live I just ain't never seen that ain't never seen like no like I don't think you could do both I don't think you could do both so I probably just fall back off and I just love like it ain't like you you told nobody or nothing like that you doing what you doing like I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie like but you be having going on with your swinging thing not not listen now listen it's true a lot of people a lot of people like man make sure you say something about that man like me personally I don't I don't think that's weird bro what you do with your lady what y'all do that's between y'all that ain't got nothing to do with me right I don't like I you see what I'm saying like but kind of foreign too like you you probably wouldn't do it I mean I don't really know what all y'all do to be honest with you all right y'all got some [ __ ] going on we do porn and me and her shoot with other girls all the time but then for the first time a couple weeks ago she did a scene with another guy for the first time ever right uh I don't know bro like me personally I don't I don't know but I don't I don't look at you like you know I don't you look at me differently because of other things I ain't gonna lie you interviewing goofy yeah you'll be looking pissing me off sometimes doing [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is he doing but for that now bro I don't really I don't really I don't get me I think from being in jail I learned to mind my business I don't I don't care what you do with your lady y'all love that that's that's perfect for y'all I don't care what like I'm not oh yeah that's weird I don't care I don't care in jail there's so much [ __ ] up [ __ ] going on all the time but it's like the stuff that happens out here doesn't really scratch the surface you I'm on the phone I'm yeah what's your phone though um so are you are you seeing a girl that you were seeing while you were locked up or did you get into a relationship since you got up yeah yeah you got a new one no no no no oh well I was locked up she held you down the whole time or just part of it yeah the whole time eight and a half years yeah I'm strong too wow how old are you right now yeah so you were like high school age though when you went in right or like 20 maybe yeah I've seen the rumors oh I don't know if it's room or not but uh it said that you King Von and uh melee used to date Mina red that's the thing Mina uh man he was kind of young when I was talking to me Mina Mina Mina like found me I like Mina I like me and I really I'm really gonna say nothing bad about me because being a building jams ain't total nobody or nothing so I salute I salute me so I ain't gonna say I can't say nothing bad about me but we really like family though we were shorty like we was young like she kind of look younger than me but yeah we was young so yeah I love when you have that in common with some some homies I mean you all have the same body in common that makes me feel close to you like a lot of people do they'll kill you over that though really what over [ __ ] a girl in your PA in their past maybe okay and they think you wanna again they'll smoke you I'm I mean I don't I don't really be caring that's like insecurities yeah that to me reminds me of being in like high school and you were like you start dating a girl and you know she kissed some dude before and you're just mad as [ __ ] I don't I couldn't imagine feeling like that as an adult yeah because I think I did back then I I had gotten a few guys asked for like I think it was more of a respect thing though like man you know you know yeah I mean you know this might like stop playing with me dude but now I'd be like man yeah you know what's what you say nothing all right that was how I felt with the dude to shut the porno with my wife is that I was like all right if we're gonna do this you can't be bro talking crazy in an interview after the fact right bro why is you telling this man J main send you a dick pic bro what's wrong with y'all okay okay I feel like people are going out of their way to not understand what was happening in that conversation he said I need to be on only fans or have a porn site and I need to be getting money off of porn I said all right well what's your meat like and he freaks out but I'm like well obviously if you're gonna do porn you got to have a thing on you or you gotta and you gotta know how to use it but that's true but listen I mean that that's true that's kind of irre that's kind of because now they got all type of [ __ ] he can even if he didn't he probably get the pump pills I don't know man so that's you don't need to be showing them if he got a little like three and a half inch or I don't think the pump in the pill is gonna do it oh see I don't know no yeah I don't know you got to be gifted if you want to make it in this game then they got the surgeries going on you probably could drop 10K on it on the pipe I don't know yeah but that should have you [ __ ] up they go into your body and dig it out pull it out an extra inch and a half because they they say everybody got like an extra some in it got some extra in there yeah yeah I mean [ __ ] I could use an extra inch and a half why not yeah I ain't having no surgery that's crazy you never get the Lipo no I don't know I have to go work out I don't know anything like a BBL or something nah but the BBL is where they take the fat out and put in your ass some people just get the fat out like baby man Kevin okay but what is that called though just like just lipo yeah yeah okay okay but you can get it so whatever part of your body you want some girls be getting on their arms I read this workout I mean I I don't if you do it cool like I'm bad about them but I me personally I just work out bro like I'm sure you know short you know you sure you I could do 10 push-ups now and be like you know what I'm saying so I just work out bro I just started that and I'm I do I've been doing that I buy it quick and work out and you probably have a six-pack in like a month or two if you really went crazy on the diet yeah I'm gonna start dieting right now really I'm praying gaze got me up when I'm probably gonna do like a a a a no meat diet probably for like a month or two you're gonna go vegan like Dirk I didn't know he was I didn't know he's vegan you said I was watching the uh narwdwar interview with him and he said he was vegan so those so those by not had no type no type of animal animal products in them they honestly might because that's from like four or five years ago okay okay so yeah but I'm sure they have all kinds of vegan cereal out there too that's what I was saying they make it so easy I was saying that's why I had to cancel the tour because you need any meat it's [ __ ] you know we weren't even like from reading books we weren't even like made to eat meat hmm I don't know I'm not an expert I feel pretty good damn good after a steak we developed these canine teeth like after like we evolved in whatever it's called right and we want we mostly was eating like plant stuffing if you do go vegan I hope you come back to the meat side pause see here you go you're on your Tangerine thing yo what does that even mean because they were saying Jay Maine was calling uh lil' Jay the Chiraq Tangerine I'm like where's Tangerine I guess they was calling him the Chiraq Wolverine and the Tangerine is what a fruit yeah yeah so that ain't crazy that is funny I don't know how he'd be coming up with this [ __ ] damn would you do an interview with you and J Main and Adam in person yeah for sure I think that would be incredible yeah Jimmy yeah for sure I like j-man man J Main jmaine he um he gave me a lot of game you feel I like j-man for sure are you uh in serious conversations about signing to a label right now because you sent me a picture of you with somebody who's like a very high level A and R and I had to tell you I'm like bro that's crazy and you didn't know that they had actually signed a shitload of like huge artists man you know what's crazy bro what's crazy he got up with me on IG I ain't even know who he was if him do real humble dude he and he say like yeah yeah you know I'm this guy he ain't even said and he pulled up on me in the trenches you feel me my homie got killed the next day you know what I'm saying I'm gonna get killed the next day so I I liked him I like him I like him the conversation we'd be having you know that it'd be I'm saying but yeah I got a few like I got I got so I got I got a lot going on in the works okay and I'm gonna start the gaming thing too you're gonna start streaming yeah I'm gonna get Mom surfer surfer server server oh you play GTA yeah I like GTA oh okay that would be hard I seen you reaching all the Ops you know us well actually that's crazy because there's some New York rappers that I know I was interviewing this dude see blue and he's playing the game and he basically he has before this other dude DD Osama yeah and he goes and does a [ __ ] like drive-by on DD Osama in the game bumping his music but he went very out of his way to not play music where he actually was dissing DD osama's dead brothers or whatever but he did a drive-by in the game and I was like this is a [ __ ] very weird metaverse world that we're living in all of a sudden do you could you imagine that though could you imagine like us starting that boom like all right we start putting out beefs actually in the game you know what I'm saying like we ain't we ain't sliding no more we actually putting out beasts in the game I love that idea but also it's like if you play UFC against somebody that you have problems with and then they lose it's like are they actually gonna let the beef go I don't think so I think they're just gonna be more mad yeah it's supposed to be like I just seen I just posted some I just seen some people from uh St Louis I think you posted that or say she's somebody that but they was fighting they Ops um in the game no no in real life really St Louis that sound familiar Instagram guy yeah I see it yeah they they was actually finding it out I don't know I think that's kind of crazy too though somebody talking about like fighting jobs because you like a lot of people ain't fighting nowadays they got the gloves on oh you talking about yeah oh in real life yeah a real setup fight thing oh sure okay would that be something you open to hell yeah I want to beat the [ __ ] out a few people who just a few people man it's just a lot of people and I know they can't fight because I seen Ruger and uh Tay 600 on on uh Instagram live together the other day I seen what they was trying to do man they was trying to do it but you know it's just you know it went left right away right it could have been a good conversation but it's like there was just too much ego wrapped up in it right but it's a start though yeah bro could you would you do that would you do the Instagram live thing with somebody that you truly hated I had to do it with a with a person that they got like some sense I'm saying I know little boy you know I got to be a person that really matter and really got some sense like you know I'm saying that's really trying to do something for eight people so if if you're on live with me and I don't even know who to add but I just boom I just add somebody else from Chicago and it just turns out that that's just like your mortal enemy the last person that you would ever want to have anything to do with you're not hopping off alive you're gonna just try to chop it up laugh at it bro I don't beat I'm like doing that I'm talking about I get I gotta be so heated like because I know like you a [ __ ] and you play on me but for the most part I just be like man you know I just beat man what's up bro what's wrong like you know how you feeling I mean you seem like you're pretty good at keeping your [ __ ] off of the internet whereas a lot of people are very bad at that dude any that like that's that dress ninja right or wrong uh what if if if if somebody if if if somebody if if a a crime happens and you talk about it and then we all know you know that the feds watch the internet you know that the fish watch internet y'all know the fears watch the internet so you know that the Feds Watching you on that yeah [ __ ] we want to Bama what y'all gonna do oh yeah y'all did that and that's trust snitching I'm not doing none of that I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna do none of that because I'm I mean I'm really not trying to be involved with none of that anyway but I ain't I'm not gonna go back and forth but you don't know about nothing I know you're cool now but did you feel like j-man crossed the line by even like bringing old cases of yours up for discussion but but also those are those are situations that you beat already right so so yeah time you know this this somebody people though see what I'm saying so nah so now you know people probably get the even though they probably won't even don't even know nothing about what the [ __ ] was going on you feel but they probably get the you know what I'm saying then they somebody get [ __ ] up behind it or some so you just got to be careful with that Jay man me personally I just be laughing I'm like bro you tweaking like what is you doing dude like what I'm saying I look at him like a comedian you know what I'm saying but um yeah he can get away with a lot of [ __ ] that other people wouldn't be able to get away with but then also look how much we brought him up during this interview like he's he's really like occupying a lot of space in people's minds just by coming out here and talking [ __ ] everybody talking about hit different yeah he's doing his thing I noticed when I'm rapping along the songs and there's the n-word or whatever I'll be saying whoop instead now yeah that's the j-main or just nothing straight up uh okay um so okay we got our Muslim questions out of the way yeah I got a question oh so yeah what should did you have a relationship whatever you do no with duck um with duck um I used to see duck through being that black duck leg them all of them you know we'll go over there rotate with Billy and then you know I really never want no smoke like we'll go rotate with them then we're gonna get a reason oh block you know what I'm saying so it was like they knew we went on no oh no BS and I know we but we we kind of truly we kind of was more rotating but we seeing them but Billy was doing his thing with them so you know truthfully we really ain't like it at first because he was getting tour with them and they're like it was just a lot of stuff going on so we like bro you tweaking while you playing with them if you like them my guys he moved on that block right block and we we really ain't like it at first we really it was like a lot going on at first then he got the really they got the rapping he got to really rotate with him so we're like all right cool you know let me know people cool but we still but we from we still had ties with lemon and oh blocking you know what I'm saying so we'll go kick it with Billy see them what's up what you want to watch the BAM and then yeah we're gonna get up out of here we'll go and chilling oh block you know what I'm saying but um duck duck from the low end so sometimes he used to come to the low end he'll come down up like on 39th and he'll just chill he'll be out there and we'll be out there there's been times he was out there Louie was out there Doug and Louie together yeah it's crazy how like all y'all like know each other and actually like at one point used to be friends but then like over time I guess people just get like forced to like choose a side right yeah you gotta choose a side man because this is the thing this is the thing with that side man you if you don't it's like the other side I feel some type of way you feel me then that opened up doors for back door activity or you know what I'm saying like oh you keep eyeing and you might not be on none you might just be like nah you know he like we ain't buddy buddy but what the BAM but so you gotta have a understanding with the people you messing with you gotta be messing with some people that's that that's actually like similar thinking type of thing you're still cool with Billionaire Black though yeah Billy Billy cool like really cool like we don't like we don't really rotate every day or nothing like that but it ain't like I ain't got no smoke with them man I see him oh yeah I'm busting and [ __ ] yeah Billy cool Billy rapping this [ __ ] it's just it's just a lot I don't be liking is the distance you know they got what they got going on and then they they get the distance that's right it's very hard to be somebody who's kind of like in the middle like you were like you get along with some of them you don't get along with all but then the distance kind of makes it like hard for people to accept that you might be cool with people on both sides right the thing would be the thing with Billy is like it's like you know his brother is from steal from my hood you feel me like his brother from books world we know his mama everybody you feel me so it's just like I just that's one thing I don't really be liking that distance like you like you can't really I feel like Billy wanted the Pioneers like if with the E day is you serious that's like one of those songs that probably kicked off a lot of the distance right so so where was you at when that song came out like where would y'all he was friends with anybody from 600 and billionaire at the time where they put you in like a rough situation like damn from 600 at the time no I don't really says honey you know we was rotate with Tay you know he was always like liberal around us or whatever but we ain't really really had no real ties with 600 at that time really period me personally really I know super ties with 600. yeah best friend buddy buddy type of thing either though okay this is one I wanted to ask you about so I've seen a Instagram live clip where King yella and some other people were were talking [ __ ] about why being namir because he used to claim to be a GD ybn namir I don't even know what that is oh he's he's actually yeah he's from Alabama but they moved out to California I'll just yeah and so he had a couple hits like a few years ago or whatever but he'd been in California for a few years that's funny you don't know he is just because you've been locked up you would definitely know who it was if you weren't locked up because he had these big records and [ __ ] but from Alabama then he moves to California and at some point stop saying his GD and basically gets down with a [ __ ] set in Long Beach does that strike you as kind of weird or do you think that that's acceptable if you like move somebody somewhere for a long period of time and you like realistically he was saying he was GD when he was like 15 16. so the thing is like certain hoods you'll go to okay like it might not be no GDs around at all and you hang with these Crips and everything they'd be like bro like you ain't gonna be around us you're not no [ __ ] or you're not no blood you like right what you finna do and he's been in California for like six years or something if some organizations they'd be like I they don't even want you in the business if you're not really so you're around them you just say hey you really like a goofy you know what I'm saying so I don't know I mean I don't know I really don't I feel like [ __ ] I mean I really don't know right to be honest with you it's like well we have we really don't well I'm well yeah we really don't care about that to be honest we don't care about no games like like that you know what I'm saying we all right the easy guys this that this that but really we be on like we welcher up we 43 40. that's what we own when he was saying he was GD he was like 15 playing GTA too which I kind of feel like it's probably not the realest version of that in the first place oh he's from a different one maybe cribbon yeah I'm sure I could guess what he would say that you don't approve of people switching sets shout out get you Gotti good job I'm saying so I'm saying right he GD ain't no GDs and Cali really right ain't no GDs so he'll hear around y'all and every day and then like yeah yeah so so y'all are gonna push up on him like man bro like because like you ain't even the kids you know what I'm saying um somebody else's and I moved here I've been living there it's like I gotta keep pushing what I've been pushing you know I'm saying that's what I would hope but like hell yeah I've seen [ __ ] switch at and some [ __ ] Gonna switch then they turned up for that new setting you know what I mean I just think it's more frowned the phone out here just because you know what I'm saying like the way it is you know what I'm saying but yeah yeah they stay heavy on the game banging they have they still game we ain't really gang banging like that for real set setbacks right well there are a lot of Chicago rappers who've been out here for a long ass time and they didn't start claiming something different yeah but they probably ain't hanging you see what I'm saying he probably with them every day you know what I'm saying they they just out here they just probably got cribs out here but they steal from Iraq they still going to the right they're bringing the guys from the rack out right or whatever they from how do you feel about FBG brother saying that he used to bully you want something about me oh I don't even know him did he say that he never met butter no he don't he ain't talking about me he probably tell my Pappy brother I mean I believe it but I'm just saying that's yeah they they I heard them say something about some block dookie and [ __ ] now bro I'm like I don't know what happened with them but no he ain't he ain't talking about me the Glock doogies are real though what yeah they will blow your ass down no you ever use one or you're here on the other end of it oh thank God no what about the Savage Life I'm not doing nothing what is the Savage Life I can people I was spitting the ass oh okay yeah those guys like that's like you can't play with that either oh you knocked them out already so he embarrassed you don't spit in his butt like this you yeah can we have some dignity so you pulled his pants down was doing that on the deck he was on though or it wasn't no they they came like once I left they weren't doing that well It Happened One Time One of the guys that started it he did it and you know everybody was talking about then a lot of the guys kept I left and they kept doing and kept doing it who started it it was the innovator yeah who started from his Squad named antenna Baby D so he's the creator of Savage Life you know Baby D Baby D you might need an interview that's some crazy [ __ ] [ __ ] up baby just being locked up for so long you start inventing [ __ ] like that yeah actually weird to see him it's crazy though too that Rico Reckless got all the credit for talking about it because nobody knew what it was I don't think and then he came on my podcast and vlad's podcast and talked about it they both went viral and then [ __ ] Joe Rogan biggest podcast in America in the world he actually played the clip of Rico Reckless described in the Glock dookie and laughed his ass off at the whole idea of it that's [ __ ] crazy Joe Rogan knowing about this yeah that [ __ ] weird bro I take [ __ ] chop it up put it in a bottle put Magic Shave put pepper and salt whatever you could think of Drano and sit it there and shake it up and just let it sit let it marinate for like days and months so your cell gotta stank too if you just I I would imagine you just made it sound so much worse than it originally but I should have [ __ ] you up like sometimes it hits you in skin so they know how to do it to where it hits you and then you wipe off skin and it like man that [ __ ] that [ __ ] [ __ ] up bro it ain't nothing nice what the [ __ ] [ __ ] ain't you [ __ ] around and catch a he's doing that goof ass [ __ ] that is probably like one of the worst things that I think human beings have ever thought up yeah what about what do you think about the uh nickname that everyone's giving you of John Wick John Wick you're embracing now so you got a title uh a project coming out right yeah ain't trying to get sued by nobody so you're just kind of embracing it yeah yeah yeah I like it though probably because it come from J main you know he's so funny so yeah I like it definitely did you uh I got some [ __ ] from some uh lazy podcasters who basically were saying that I was [ __ ] up for putting [ __ ] Mack and J main on the same Instagram live because they started kind of threatening each other and getting into it to me it was obvious that it was a joke but there's some lazy podcasters out there who don't really take a lot of time to think about what they're saying and they're so they have bad media literacy so they have a hard time understanding what's real and what isn't they're trying to keep up with the young kids do you think that there was anything wrong with Chris Mac and Jay Maine being on that call together it was a joke because like you and me know that the the odds of a a [ __ ] from LA and a guy from Chicago getting into it like that and really having some a problem it would take something real in order for them to really have a problem that [ __ ] was hilarious to me I think they I seen them on a live after that talking and laughing about it yeah that [ __ ] was funny but I really wanted to see them fight though I wanted to see if Jay Manley would let that man beat his ass but I've seen Tim fight a few times man no crimactic yeah I don't know I don't know man this is my thing j main is a small dude [ __ ] Mack is like one of the biggest dudes you'll ever see he's like six seven that don't mean nothing though yeah but still at a certain level when somebody is like real small and somebody else is really big it just doesn't seem like they should fight I mean I get it and that's why they make weight classes but bro I don't like that don't mean nothing they mean I mean it's just a bit of what he do you gotta do the right [ __ ] but I've been fighting big mother [ __ ] bigger than me I barely fight a [ __ ] my side so [ __ ] I don't know yeah I think they may I think Jay May would have probably got him though they need to go and set that up though I thought they wasn't getting some money for that or something I mean that is a great idea that'd be hilarious that would be amazing for both of their careers so is he a comedian and it's something to do from That's So Raven or that that's a joke Corey Baxter that's not him awesome mean that's funny though that you actually thought it wasn't I thought that was him so you're probably really thinking that he Corey back I thought that was him for real oh damn I ain't lying too I thought that was something oh my God a lot of people uh have kind of joked around about that but no I mean I wouldn't say he's a comedian he's he's a real committed [ __ ] but he also like he knows it's funny so he'll sometimes be doing skits and just be like hyping [ __ ] up and everything but now he's really so look he's about that what what he rap like he raps a little bit so what what exactly what are you known for I mean to be real like he was just a dude with an Instagram just talking [ __ ] and making these funny ass videos and then I asked him to do an interview and then he has probably done like 300 interviews since then with just all kinds of different outlets and stuff and yeah he makes music but he does interviews and [ __ ] I don't know exactly he's always working on some kind of new hustle you know yeah I ain't mad huh and another [ __ ] though Charleston Charleston white how you feel about it leave that man alone man Charleston alone Liam alone leave that that's a grown man man leave that man alone man Charleston crazy in the [ __ ] [ __ ] you see him with DJ you I keep a gun I keep a gun yeah that was real I mean I actually like bro was that real bro like this is me I asked DJ you he said it was real I know I kind of know if I believe him though that [ __ ] seems crazy man he looked like I'm like bro you know what I'm saying like bro you he was oh he was tweaking bro he was tweaking right so maybe maybe he was playing yeah maybe Charles and white was like I did this gonna go up type [ __ ] but I don't know man but I don't think I don't think he knew about it I don't think he knew he was gonna do that if you're doing an interview and somebody starts grabbing their bag and saying that they have a gun you need to have somebody else in the room to make sure that he is not able to go grab a gun right yeah yeah for sure yeah so that's why we create a safe environment we got security they make sure they pat people down make sure everything's all good Jay Maine is actually the worst person we ever had to deal with in terms of not wanting to give up his [ __ ] yeah his whoop if you will um um okay so you were saying that your friend got killed uh right the other day or whatever and then it was being reported that was your manager was that not true it was just your friend no and I just want to guess you know that's like one thing about us you'll learn like we just sometimes we just be talking [ __ ] man is my man I'm his managing man like I dress my style he's just talking [ __ ] you know this is my man though right it's just one of the guys guys held me down while I was locked up you feel me so yeah that's my dog though okay what was his name little dude people call him huncho that one his name that was just Instagram okay I'm saying but he was honey gang so we always honey gang Once Upon a Time so it's just his name little dude though but is it kind of crazy to have some some traumatizing [ __ ] happen in your personal life and then all of a sudden it just becomes like Instagram headlines like right away everybody trying to come up with a narrative about it yeah I mean I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting the hang of it quick then you got people like saying a little [ __ ] about it we're just pumping it up like but that's what I'm saying like that's why I ain't like I don't I ain't with none of that none of that talking about ain't with that that's that's Fizz to me show definitely um okay final question would you do a boxing match with wooski I ain't really got no schools again oh okay whiskey too little for me though no he too little I probably he's too little for me bro like I've been in jail working out bro I'm gonna be somebody ass but I said I'm the best fighter bro on my son beat him up again who would be a good fight for for Tay Savage if you were going to do a boxing match in Chicago maybe not in Chicago yeah you give me a name I'm gonna let you know I'm gonna let you know like yeah I probably okay well you're not calling out fights uh [Music] yeah yeah I get my opinion I'm trying to see who I can think of that'll make sense for you yeah you I may gotta beat they gotta make sense it can't be no little skinny [ __ ] on the over big [ __ ] but you down the boxer up if it was on some friendly or my son yes I'd do that yeah yeah it's kind of odd but I feel like him and brick baby are kind of similarly sized big baby he does podcasts on here with me where you from L.A oh Chicago watching that [ __ ] um all right um what what plans you got you headed back to Chicago yeah yeah [ __ ] I'm out probably for a few more days man then I'm gonna shake it you know but anyway yeah man I got a lot of [ __ ] driving man me and bro just this just drop something gotta here to get you Gotti taste Savage collab that's gonna be crazy folks and lows they go crazy we shot a video to it we did it the same day shot a video on the same day bro welcome to the hood show me over love you feel me so um I really been out here working I shot two more videos that's Toby looking out for that um the gaming thing be looking out for that my YouTube get a um Tay Savage 4340. get up with that um like subscribe all that when I saw that you were coming out here I was thinking and you said you were shooting a music video I was thinking like what are the odds that you might be linking up with Glo Gang doing some yeah she keeps people oh oh no no I don't already I'm not really uh communication with them okay yeah maybe somebody could set it up that would be an epic collaboration though I hate to even end it on this one but since you brought it up uh it was like rumors that you and ball out got into it before in the back in the day y'all had a relationship no no I really ain't nobody we had a look a little altercation but it really wasn't no it didn't really lead to nothing because the crowds or whatever but but I really been chilling like they they've been I think you know they were social so they yeah they really been chilling I don't really be seeing them here on the bottom that's what's up though that's what you can't say about Sosa and tato and ball out and all them is that they kind of got into their situation came out here and kind of left all the [ __ ] back in Chicago Alone come on man it's still going on in the city you know what I'm saying so that's that's I don't fold them out that must be the crazy thing for you is getting out after all that time and sometimes it feels like you know there's just very few people who managed to survive the the time period that you were gone they either moved up out of Chicago or they just didn't make it you'll be surprised it's something for you like man you know it's probably gonna be dead by the time but he's doing good he probably moved Alaska somewhere got three four businesses then there's some people that didn't ever did nothing nobody and he did [Music] Chicago if you if you can get some crazy features on your uh project that you got coming out who would you want to work with not Chicago just like industry 50 Cent really 50 show 50. you got all of them man if you see this for sure it was crazy I just holiday yeah yo yeah yeah yo like man about something got to tell you savage bro FaceTime I'm I'm hollering at them and that that was that that really made me like oh yeah I gotta turn up I just I just talked to Tony Yayo straight up but 50 um uh let me see they got to be high high like that or does anybody you ever like you know I like I like 50 I like Gotti I like money bag um um and you know I've been going so it's a lot of people I don't know but I believe this is I'm like yeah I like him let me see who from New York I I want to do something with somebody from New York too you listen to any of the Bronx drill type stuff the drill music coming out of New York yeah I'll be hearing I just don't really be like you know what I'm saying knowing like oh that's but yeah yeah I'll be hearing for sure it is kind of crazy when you compare like the average Chicago drill to that [ __ ] because it's so much faster and like more aggressive and they'd be rapping in these crazy boys sometimes yeah like like like that pop smoke type super demonic sounding voices yeah for sure I like it though maybe talking ain't [ __ ] in that [ __ ] how you feel about uh drill having all this influence on like not even just a miracle like even you have Khadijah out there she's like from the UK you got the UK drill scene you got the newer drill scene like how do you feel about the influence that you had on everybody I feel like it's beautiful for the show but one thing I can say about like Chicago Chicago always like had their own like they own like it's like words we say or anything it always like always you know what I'm saying so we always had like our own look swag type of thing what yeah so you're gonna be hating on the UK drill I'm not gonna break it I just told the decent find me somebody to do a feature out there I wanna I wanna do something with somebody out there she's supposed to send me somebody matter of fact but interesting let me think of some names as well that would be pretty epic yeah UK you find somebody from Jamaica Africa doing some drama you can leave it can you leave the country no I can't leave the country they're gonna have to come to the rack um that might make it a little tough yeah well you gotta check into probation or whatever forever or for a long time oh no [ __ ] I'm trying to get off early so I've been doing so good you feel me but for sure all right well yo I appreciate you coming through and everything epic interview we're all very big fans and I think that you're gonna have a crazy couple of years you're about to blow the [ __ ] up in the very near future so I'm glad we were able to get this in yeah for sure yeah take Savage shout out my boy Remo no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us on YouTube Tick Tock patreon shout out my man Gucci Gotti nojama.com if you want to support

Channel: No Jumper

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Length: 109min 32sec (6572 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 28 2023