SoD Hunter will be amazing in P2, but it needs some things.. | WoW Classic Season of Discovery

[Music] how are you all doing tonight my name is big bomb boy and welcome my hunter Phase 2 discussion it's l than 3 weeks until Phase 2 damn this phase is too long but it is time to talk about how Hunter is going to look in Phase 2 let's talk about what be Noble change runes that have a good chance of showing up and maybe most importantly our hopes and dreams for the future of Hunter and finally should you play a hunter in Phase 2 like just how good will Hunter be in Phase 2 we will discuss it all all right so what do we know is changing for Hunter going to level 40 first thing is all our new abilities 25 to 40 brings on some pretty impactful at 26 we get a rapid fire it was a pretty solid DPS cool down although it's still a 5minute cool down which is is a bit R the 28 we get Frost trap this is the AOE slow trap incredibly useful at 30 we get aspect of the Beast not very useful even in PvP I basically never use this I can count on one hand the amount of times the hunter has found me to be ATT tracking maybe if I'm camping a base in AB or the flag room in war song that's about it but 30 also brings oh yes one of the most key Hunter abilities honestly it hardly feels like Hunter without it Bain death this opens up so much for Hunter it makes a lot of solo stuff possible that otherwise wouldn't be it makes it so you can dump a bunch of damage in mobs and F it off back to the tank it makes it so you can actually use your traps in combat by getting out of it for a second there's also the possible implications of fding to swap gear in combat maybe even gear that has different runes we don't know if that will be the case obviously no one has been able to test it but with the way things currently are there's no reason that wouldn't work blizz could always always add in some measures to stop that from being possible and with their current track record for over Hunters they just might do that at 32 we get flare limited use in PVE but super impactful for PVP 36 Rings Viper sting manad drain is mostly used in PvP but there are uses for this in bve as well it's very nice to have level 40 gets us male which it's nice to have the extra damage reduction but not a big deal aspect of the pack and volley aspect of the pack is nice for getting your group round faster but volley yeah volley is rapid fire Frost trap FD flare Viper sting those are some seriously important abilities in the hunter kit and we make out better here than a lot of other classes this abilities is Miles better than what we will gain in the level 50 bracket what about our talent if you're going survival there's not a lot to be really excited about unfortunately except for MFD honestly this Talent is is super underrated anytime I do farming like like DM solo runs I love to have this it gives you so much freedom to know you basically never going to get an FD resist I can't think of any other Talent points that save me from dying as much as this it's not even close other than that you got Counterattack coming the agility from lightning reflexes and wyvern sting which we'll talk a bit about wyvern sting later for Marksman you actually get some really cool stuff you can max out mortal shots this Talent is necessary for those huge crits and come on it just feels good to see a huge aim shot crit that's one of the best parts about classic Hunter you also get scatter shot at 25 pvping as Marksman is not so great getting scatter shot really turns Marksman into something I can actually enjoy in PvP it's also occasionally useful in Dungeons and such finally marks gets true shot Aura the literal bane of classic Hunter we were mostly just brought for this buff but actually since we're already bringing King's buff having another decent buff on top of it really solidifies your place in that melee group it's just such a shame that melee weaving isn't as fun on Marx at is BM it is decent buff though but BM this is where things really really turn up ferocity intimidation bestial discipline frenzy and bestial wrath that is a phenomenal set of talents gam playwise not much changes here but numbers wise damn our things looking good but also our burst goes through the roof here not only will we have rapid fire to increase our damage but our already High pet damage is going to get bestial wrath bestial wrath was a fantastic cool down in classic even before the BM R our pets are going to rip with this and that's why I think it was in the BM guide video I called these Nerfs on the BM run it was pretty obvious those were going to happen I just hope they don't Nerf it again nerfing it now instead of on P2 launch day was probably a good idea just don't Nerf it again Hunters can be left alone at this point but you know our pets also get some new the most important is obviously Dash you can teach pets rank one dash at level 30 of the earliest we can tame a pet with rank one is level 32 in STV but you can teach pets at level 40 rank two dash and you can get rank two at level 40 ah look at that list of pets one of my all-time favorites right there oh Cliff hper I use that on my night elf hunter and classic a lot it's not going to be easy but I have to get him on my hter this time old Cliff Humper and snarler are two my favorite pets maybe I'll get snarler on the night off this time you might also be like oh cool what about dive well the only pet you're likely to be using that would need dive is a wind servant and unfortunately you are stuck with rank one rank two is only learnable starting at level 41 so kind of there plus cats can also learn prowl starting at level 32 and yeah you can also learn rank two at 40 it looks like we're going to be using cats again possibly when servants make a bit of a comeback at 50 though other than that thunderstomp is the only new pet ability we could learn and you can get rank two at level 40 it's not something you're going to want to run in general but this does have some limited uses it's a decent chunk of AOE damage and threat if it didn't have a one minute cooldown gorilla could be a pretty useful pet actually pretty decent stuff for pets now that I look at it like this now let's talk about the runes first I'm going to go over runes I think have a decent chance of showing up obviously I have no inside or knowledge here none of these could show up we may only get one new Rune we may get 12 new runes we may only get minor runes they may delete the hunter class I really don't know but these are the runes that I think have the best chance of getting in the first one would be that updated wyvern sting why do I think this it was Data mind and it was being changed pretty late in development but also I can't think of any ability in s so that was changed from classic just Baseline the closest is stuff like Shaman's dual wield where you learn the passive ability to dual wield while doing the Quest for a rune or locks meta Rune which changes existing abilities but only when you have the Rune on otherwise abilities are all the same as classic so this leads me to believe there's a fairly solid chance this version of wyvern sting is meant to be from a rune level 40 would be the place to put that Rune since this is when we'll first be able to use wyvern sting and if we extrapolate further oo I love that word extrapolate we could see level 40 runes for each of our final talents Wyn sting TSA and basal wrath you've already seen Wyn sting TS Ora I don't know what that would be maybe change it to a percentage of attack power instead of a small flat number or hold up let me check if I have enough hopium left to say this make it proc instant aim shots oo please let that happen that would be so nice and that feels like something that would make sense for a final Marksman talent for bestial wrath it's pretty obvious Beast Within it just makes sense do it blizz if my reasoning here makes any sense I would also expect Raptor strike to be changed it may not be the exact version that was Data mined before but melee Hunter needs some help and Raptor strike is the place to do that and actually I think blizzard knows that based on the fact that they were at least playing around with an instant version of rer strike and flanking strike really only make sense if you can use Raptor strike more often out of all the runes there could be something to do with raptor strike is the one I think is most likely oh yeah another reason I think this is the most likely it's on the client like the actual live one right now here you can see me link it in game there were other runes that they had tested like exposed weakness this was on the BlizzCon demo and it could be returning too but it was removed like I can't link this on the live servers like I can this instant Raptor strike something to do with traps yeah is also pretty likely remember the ranged traps that were dat of mind all of those are also on the client and you can link them in game as well I don't know if they would just give us a rune that makes all of our traps ranged give us a freezing Arrow or give us a rune that enables a trap launcher but I really think ranged traps and combat traps or both are likely okay but what about runes that I just want the runes I think Hunter should get well I've got some weird choices for that first one is flare traps did you ever play torghast in shadowlands no good it it was terrible but it did have one really cool idea for Hunter I wouldn't mind seeing return in sod and that is flare traps in Shadow lands your Frost trap is replaced by tar trap it's basically the same thing but it's usable at range and it has a tar theme instead of frost for some reason but one of the things you could get in Tor gas made it so if you used flare on top of your tar trap it would ignite and do a huge AOE dot that was really cool I would love to see some interaction with our flare and our traps use flare on on a frozen Target to break it early but leave them with a stun or debuff or something play on a frost trap and now instead of people being slowed they're sliding all over the place all right that would be obnoxious AF but kind of funny even something simple and more realistic like if you flare on a trap that hasn't gone off it will go off how many times have you had a mob basically standing on the Trap and it just won't proc using flare to proc a trap like that and just have the effect on a nearest Target it would be a really nice change plus I feel traps are criminally underused part of Hunter's kit give me more chances and reasons to use them all right we're getting kind of wild here but camouflage from Legion I love this ability it's so ridiculous it's basically stealth for Hunter but it lasts one minute and has a 1 minute cooldown and it also heals you and your pet while you're camoed I mainly used this ability in arenas it was super nice to be able to get out of combat and Camo to reset and heal to full I actually don't think this would be that op in PVE we already have invis Poots and we have FD and night Al hunri and meld this would make a lot of solo farming much easier though also I logged onto retail to get this footage for you it was very gross getting back to reality now I really want something more interesting to do on BM Hunter I just want them to import TBC BM Hunter and the S so TBC BM Hunter for me was the best interation of Hunter I'd love to play that style of Hunter in sod especially if they also brought in DST but even if not going to do that I would like to see some more interaction between the Hunter and the Hunter's pet I just don't know what they could do that would make that fun and not overpowered other than giving us the TBC version of kill command and then by the time we get to level 60 give us runes to make us TVC BM Hunters one thing they could do is barbed shot problem with that is barbed shot sucks I hate it I'd rather see something that is like the reverse of this say the pet gets a crit or every time it spins a 100 Focus something like that I get an ability to use for damage instead of an ability that makes a pet do damage I'd also like to see them pretty much just rework almost all of the hunter runes yeah Hunter got really really shafted on runes we probably have the worst set of runes in the game there's barely no Synergy among them and they don't add much gameplay-wise a bunch are basically garbage like Lone Wolf and serpent spread some just make no sense at all like why is Cobra strikes only shot abilities while by sniper training this garbage version instead of the Wrath one they probably won't do it but the majority of them do need changed so what is my Most Wanted Rune like if I could just pick one Rune and blizzard would do it you're not going to guess this seriously try it put it in the comments right now what do you think is the hter Rune I won most you are wrong I guarantee it like the Men's Warehouse you're probably thinking silencing shot or Lock and Load or aspect of the Viper nope it is play dead what is play dead not a lot of people know about this but I love this ability it's pet FD yeah so you can FD and your pet can FD do you know what kind of that opens up for Hunter being able to have your pet drop all mobs at will get it out of combat have people DET Target it in PvP it seems like such a small thing but this is one of the highest skill sealing abilities for hunter in wow and hardly anyone even knows about it I doubt they'll add this to sod but holy what I love it this is the run I want more than anything else I'd also like to see them add some new pets it's getting really lame using basically the same Pets As in classic they were off to a decent start in Phase One by adding the new white lion and Wy burs we're going into ner now why not add in a short quest line to let us tame mechanical pets or just do something actually cool and bring back the spectral wolf from dust wallow why in the have they not not done this it was available briefly in original TBC but never in classic or if they're going to make us use cats at least bring in some new looks for them there's a few unused cat skins in the game like this blue one add some of these into Ultra or something there's a lot they could do to shake up hunter pets from classic and it really wouldn't take them much work to do it and finally should you play hunter in Phase 2 and how good will it be in Phase 2 with the info right now I'm just going to tell you Hunter is going to be phenomenal in Phase 2 this will probably be Hunter's best phase outside of the insane number of Nerfs we did good at 25 but the 50 bracket that's not going to be that impressive for us we don't gain anything huge going to level 50 other than the possibility to use AimShot as BM that's probably the most impactful thing going to 40 we get a huge amount of important abilities our pet gets important abilities and the BM tals are just crazy strong even if they want to Nerf BM more it will still be strong and Marksman even gains a ton going to 40 in PvP and PVE especially if we can attain a decent amount of crit with N More gear as we can now Max out mortal shots and barrage BM will likely be topping meters until Warriors get super geared out then they might pull ahead again Marx is likely to be a little bit behind especially if we don't get an amazing range weapon but it is still going to be quite high up there the only spec I'm a little bit worried about is melee there's still not a big reason to play ranged serve at 40 for PVE that'll come at 60 but melee serve it's really just up in the air how good or bad it will be it is extremely dependent on what they do Rune wise although I guess that doesn't matter much as most people just do not seem to be interested in melee Hunter which is surprising to me I think it could be really fun BM going to wck in PvP and PVE Mark going to be very good in PvP and PVE melee who knows yeah you should play hunter in Phase 2 Hunter Jesus is by our side damn that was an 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Length: 16min 39sec (999 seconds)

Published: Thu Jan 25 2024