SoD Hunter - Melee Build Runes, Talents, Rotation Guide | WoW Classic Season of Discovery

[Music] whatever you all doing tonight my name is big bomb boy and welcome to a hunter's essential guide melee Edition oh yes the melee Hunter some scoff but there's a long and story tradition of the melee Hunter don't forget the first Hunter Gman was melee focused with ranged on the side lady Maria father gascoin Hunter S Thompson there's a long line of melee focused Hunters there is no shame in being one at least in sod so in this video we're going to cover Talent Rune choices rotation then the much sweatier rotation stat priority pets we don't really need to cover consumes as they are basically the same as BM then we'll talk about melee Hunter's place in the meta and finally we'll talk about the future of the melee Hunter the talent first unlike virtually every other hunter spec there are some variations here so the first spec which is what I recommend for most situations is full on BM yeah so you just use the BM spec like this but there is an option for survival three in Monster slaying three in humanoid slaying and two in Savage strikes all three of these are very good talents after those eight points though our options are super limited there's not a lot you can use to increase your melee DPS for a PVP spec I don't mind going deeper into serve it is really fun to have deterrence at this level you could dip into BM but you can only really get improved revive pet so that's not great either if you go into Marksman you can get 3% crit uh okay not great I generally will go deeper survival putting some points into deflection and praying for that Perry haste then grab deterrence that leaves you with two extra points doesn't really matter where you put them I'd probably put them in traps if I'm pvping lot and 1 point in her footed but those last few points are mostly up to personal preference the runes thankfully the Rune choices for melee are simple as wait are they chest first heart of the lion you know what this is if we were the only one doing Kings in a group this is a great buff just use it what do we use outside of that it's a bit actually Cobra strikes for some reason only works at rains and I have no clue why so we are not going to use this as a melee Hunter even though it would actually be pretty good what about master Marksman it's actually not bad it's flat 5% crit wait what the why is Cobra strikes only range but Master Marksman also gives melee crit classic Blizzard or if you're not running BM talents and are going full survival you can actually run Lone Wolf it is not optimal DPS wise at all but its damage actually isn't in the dumpster there aren't any real fights in BFD where you would need to run this but maybe there will be some in the future where this is applicable or you know if you run out of pet food and you don't want your pet to run away or some kind of challenge run yeah what if we did that melee Hunter no pet Iron Man mode H leg Rune this one is super easy we always want flanking strike flanking strike is not bad now that its damage was fixed and it's really what facilitates melee Hunter glove Rune man carve is so good wow we are lucky to have it probably the best Rune in all of sod yeah obviously I'm kidding carve is garbage we need to use the BM Rune there's literally no other option here if you're just out leveling you can use Chimera or explosive while you're running into the mob to melee or to two target melee weave but there's no real point just use the BM Rune and this is why going full BM talents is also a good idea if we had a better glove Rune going serve talents would make more sense of course Liz had to Nerf this Rune right they just had to let me read this for you we remain concerned that that hunter pets are still too powerful and believe that the best way forward is to reign in the Beast Mastery Rune while compensating via the Hunter's main spells what the are you on about you didn't buff anything except reduced some Mana costs I guess cha shot still lower than it was originally still not that great explosive shot still this weird ass AOE Rune and for BM literally nothing literally nothing but Nerfs compon ating via the Hunter's main spells I try not to attribute malice when it could be explained by stupidity in this case yes it was stupidity basically every change Hunter has seen in sod has been based in stupidity even after the Nerfs this doesn't really change any of our build choices since we didn't have that many build choices in the first place anyway the basic rotation melee Hunter rotation is fairly simple so if you have tons of time before the fight starts go ahead and use Hunter's Mark otherwise you can skip it as you're running into the fight you want to get your pet in and you want to autoshot multi-shot then put up serpent sting at that point you're going to run right into melee and we want to use our flanking macro to start it's the same macro as the one for BM weaving this one works best for me so I would recommend it but as a full-on melee build we only need to use the macro for our opener really after that we're just down to Raptor strikes if Raptor procs flanking you can use flanking immediately you can just keep using the macro if you want but it's also fine to do them separately and that's it keep your pet on Target and keep hitting Raptor strike to prop flanking it's pretty simple here's how that rotation looks it's kind of low APM but I generally like it now what if we want to get sweaty the sweaty rotation melee Hunter has two ways to stimulate your sweat glands the first is reverse weaving some some call it range weaving that's dumb don't call it that I call it reverse weaving but if you have a better Name by all means let me know in the comments this rotation takes your basic melee rotation and adds in Auto and multi-shot similar to how we start the basic rotation we want to do this without delaying Raptor strikes so after a raptor goes off we move out of range for an auto shot and a multi-shot if serpent thing is down this is a decent time to reapply as you're moving back into melee raptor is not on the gcd so you won't delay that this is a very noticeable DPS increase if you're trying to porse as melee it's kind of necessary although if parsing is your goal I'm not sure how this will show up on while logs because they keep kind of changing how they count melee Hunter I think if you're doing too many multishots now they will not count you as melee even if you're still doing a ton of Auto attacks just keep that in mind if parsing is your goal and here's how that rotation looks could you also go out to range for auto shots even if multi is down um sort of you could do that at that point we're basically doing Max weaving because we're hitting every Raptor strike we're hitting normal melee Auto attacks and we're hitting Auto shots I don't really think it's worth it our range attack speed is kind of fast right now once we see some solar weapons it would likely be worth it but if you want to do it now it's not like it's going to tank your DPS and it is good practice for later the other sweaty thing you can do for melee DPS is wind clip and wind Fury fishing yes wind Fury fishing if you don't know what that is basically if wind Fury is not on cool down you want to spam instant attacks as much as you can in order to proc a wind Fury in our case as hunter that means Wing clip so we spam the out of wing clip if you have wind Fury this is is totally worth it it can add a significant amount of DPS there's just one issue here Wing clip is actually a lot of Mana in level 25 we only have rank one and it's 40 Mana Arcane shout rank three is 38 Mana flanking strike is now 9 Mana multi-shot is 75 you're going to have to very closely manage your Mana doing this and you're probably only going to have the opportunity to do this on shorter fights how do you check the cool down on windfury well you can just count it after you see it goes off or this weak Aura should work I haven't used it extensively but it worked the one time I did try it should you still wind clip even if you don't have wind Fury actually yes so this is weird but if you're not going to run o and you're not about to jump out to do your auto shots and multi- shots you will have free globals while you're in melee especially since raptor is not on the global cool down wind clip only does five damage but five damage is five damage it is extremely Mana inefficient though so only use that when Mana is not an issue all right let's talk about the staff pryo sta pryo is slightly different for melee Hunter agility attack power strength in Stam Spirit edgy is and will always be our best stat we get ranged attack power melee attack power crit Dodge and even armor it's always best attack power is always better than strength as it improves range attack power and melee attack power however there are some items that are only melee attack power or only ranged attack power just watch out for that strength gives Hunter one melee attack power per Point some people seem to think it's two like Warriors and pound for some reason it is not it is a useful stat for a melee Hunter but we're not specifically trying to stack strength even as a melee Focus Hunter we want that agility int is still useful to increase the size of our Mana pole but not that important hit and crit secondary stats are obviously great but there's no real opportunity to stack those with year at level 25 and most likely that will be the same at level 40 they'll become much more important than the level 50 and 60 brackets pets melee hunter pets are pretty simple we are always going to be using flanking strike and almost always going to be using the BM Rune so a high DPS low speeed pet is what we need man I wonder what kind of pet fits that could it be yeah you guessed it a 2.0 speed cat that is ideal Raptors are also fine for now but replaced in the level 40 bracket in the next bracket we will be seeing the BM Talent frenzy however even with that I would still stick with a 2.0 speed frenzy uptime should still be near 100% And you just lose out on flanking damage going to a faster pet although I would like to test that to be 100% certain when serpents are fine for PVP actually they're very good but for melee Hunter I would not win serpent for PVE you're going to be doing a lot of melee you don't want your pet at ranged and you especially don't want him pulling mobs away from you are there any pets other than cat really worth using at the moment actually they just there really isn't there's always a use for Wolves at 60 but right now they're just inferior to cats maybe at 40 and it's a similar situation for bats and ows they do have situationally useful abilities but it's just not something we're really going to run into in these levels so get your cat just like vanilla and enjoy it because blizz doesn't want you to do anything new in sod melee Hunters place in The Meta yeah where do melee Hunters fit in the meta they're not terrible and they do have a place in The Meta it is behind melee weaving BM but that makes sense even after the reason nervs it is still an absolutely solid DPS especially if you're willing to put in a little bit of work and do some of the sweatier rotation you have a fantastic group buff with line you bring an incredible amount of utility by having a pet that can tank although I haven't tested pets raid tanking since the nerves the only real downside is Hunter ends up being the only melee with no interrupt and there are occasions where having an interrupt is pretty damn useful melee Hunter is definitely not a meme in sod if you want to do it it is totally fine and quite fun at that the future of melee Hunter this is much much murkier than it was for BM or Marksman there's a lot of things that can happen with melee Hunter let's talk about the known first our talents don't go anywhere melee Hunter remains virtually unchanged by talents to level 40 if you're staying full on BM spec well your pet gets insane bus and that's nice but for the hunter even if you go survival there's like no changes through talents with the small exception of a Counterattack this is an extremely cool ability but its damage isn't that impressive and it's pretty Limited in use in PVE since your pet will be tanking most of the time anyway not bad for PVP though so yeah that's not much now maybe I slammed a bunch of hobium in the back of my Dragula and forgot about it but I do think melee Hunter is going to see some improvement in Phase 2 either through updates to our current runes or new runes we know there was the better Raptor strike and in combat trans both Daya mine before release if we got just that Raptor strike that would instantly change melee Hunter into a top tier spec and also melee only you'd be very unlikely to need to ever reverse weave I don't know if we will get that Raptor strike they could make it a new Rune or if they want to be smart they should tie it to the car r there's a lot of options but I would not be surprised at all to see something change for either Raptor strike or bite but only for melee Hunters another thing is we do know that very late up until release they were making changes to wyvern sting and those did not make it to live the fact that they were making changes to its aate in development makes me think there's a good chance we'll see something with Wyn sting which makes a lot of sense if we're level 40 and we're getting new runes runes that in some way interact with our 31o talent would be pretty logical although blizz is usually not very logical and the last thing all right snorted a bunch of uh cop cane for this why not tank Hunter yeah why the not I don't mind being the only class remaining that can only DPS and I would prefer if blizzard just fixes our DPS specs but there's already a decent amount of talents in the survival tree that increase survivability why not put in a few more runes so we can tank as well tanking with a pet is not that strange death Knights have been doing it for years and now locks 2o the fact that Hunter runes are probably the shittiest runes in all of sod kind of leads me to believe blizz originally had other plans for Hunter tank may have been one of them I could see blizz taking the lazy route and just adding a couple of tank runes instead of more DPS focused runes I don't really care if hunter gets a tank kit it's not needed although I would definitely try it out but I would not be at all surprised if this is what happens in the next phase and if you like Melee Hunter because I mean who doesn't stick around because I am leveling a hunter on stream full on melee it's been amazing I hope you like this video because I am going hard over here we are close to 20K Subs so if you did enjoy it hit that like button subscribe button give me that Raptor strike and I can die happy button all that other I appreciate each and every one I get and we even have a membership option click 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