SNS 225 Part 1: Headstock & Tailstock Alignment, Starrett Wall Charts

[Music] hey guys welcome back to the shop I've got you sitting on my brand new workbench right here this is something I've been working on getting it done and today I finally got it all finished up and man it turned out nice I'm really loving it it's a nice clean flat work surface here and all the all the machining that I did and the fab work turned out great and I've got a lot of footage to share with you so that's what this episode is going to start with there's a lot of there's a lot of videos so I doubt I'm going to get it all in one maybe two but possibly three episodes to get it completed but we'll see what we can do there I'm gonna hold out on any viewer mail and stuff I got some other tools and things that I planned on shared with you some new stuff but I just want to get straight into just into some machining for this episode and I've also got some machinery alignment on the victor layed down there whenever I'd come back from my trip one of the things that I wanted to do was try to tackle the headstock and tailstock misalignment issues that I was having and so far everything's turned out real well I've got some video of that we're gonna throw that in this episode and we're gonna start it off with that and then we're gonna get back on the the realm well bosses that I was making for the table legs here we got that and then we got I've actually got some more shaper footage that goes along with the table build and we got plenty of fab work to follow up on that made use of made use of the fireball squares I always love being able to use those things and a couple of little tools that I used some new stuff for the table build but anyway that's what this episode is going to be about we're going to jump back into this this table build right here and the machinery alignment but other than that real quickly I'll say that everything is going really well for me I posted up on Instagram last week of my progress with my weight loss and this past month I'm down another 14 pounds so for all you guys that was guessing that I've been losing some weight you're right I have been some way and everything's doing really well and I hope that continues every month that uh this is a trend to continue to lose weight and everything's real good with that my health is doing really good so thanks for all the concerns there and I'll continue to keep you guys informed of the progress of that weight-loss journey that I've told you I was going to be on this year alright so I get back to work next week and just back to the regular grind you know so hopefully pretty soon I'll have some more footage to share some some heavy machining and stuff going on at my day job but I still have plenty of projects that I want to do around here some other things that I need to tackle and get started on so lots lots more action that's going to be coming your way alright so we're gonna go ahead jump over here and get to the laid work and the alignment work and all that good stuff that I've been working on alrighty another exciting morning for me here in the shop I just went and picked up my two vintage steer charts from the frame shop here locally to me and I don't believe that I've shown these in a video I shared these on Instagram but I didn't have them in a video yet so how I acquired these two charts there's actually three of them I've got the third one hanging in the office the how to read a micrometer but there's a man here in town that had a vise collection of for sale on Craigslist and coincidentally it was the same man that I bought my power hacksaw from years ago before before I had moved the shop into my existing building right here so probably six seven years ago so anyway I recognized the house once I pulled up to it I was like man it's the same guy so anyway I looked at his vise collection I didn't get any of his vices he didn't have anything that I was interested in but as I was walking away you know we had talked about stare at the tools that I look for as I was walking away he goes hey I have some some old starett posters upstairs would you be interested in those I was like absolutely so he walked upstairs in his house in and these were in a - they were rolled up a bunch of them they were rolled up in a tube and we made a deal on he was willing to sell it to me he goes I'll never do anything with these and he made me a very reasonable offer for all of them so I bought them I got these two right here and I got the one hanging inside how to read a micrometer and I also got this was in the lot as well the Dumont Minuteman broaches decimal chart actually it's millimeter two inch which is super handy for us imperial reading people whenever we do a metric you know you can just look at the metric number and know what it is an inch there so that's pretty cool some of the conversions all right so I had dropped these off before I went on vacation and was in no hurry to get him back but they had called left the message so I'm gonna pull the plastic down so you can get a little bit better look now the posters themselves had a little bit of a wrinkle to them because they're they're very old they've been they've been you know used quite a bit but they're in beautiful condition and I use the UV resistant glass on this so it's it should help with any kind of sunlight to fade the paper it should help resist that and it's just a high-quality job that they do we'll take a look at those here in a second so there's two more that I had framed up and this right here is a picture that one of my viewers had given to me probably you know a couple years ago of my Kearney and trekker mill so there's the there's the picture of the mill and there's the mill a 307 s 12 I wanted to go ahead and have that framed up this is going to go in my office and then there's looking at the back right there they do a really good job they put the the cable on there so that you can hang it very well there's their logo framing by design in Pensacola she does an excellent job high quality work and she will do whatever kind of quality of framing that you want done the sky's the limit they have about a thousand different pasa abilities on borders or the you know the framing trim here and you know if you want it matted if you whatever you can pick what you want alright so I did one more this is another this is a blueprint that one of my viewers give me and I don't I don't recall who it was so please you know leave a comment if you're watching the video to remind us who who had sent this in but this is an original blueprint from Kearney and trekker and this is for the s15 Milliman this is a step up from the one that I have this is like the one that James Kilroy has in his shop so an original blueprint let me try to get word ain't glaring so bad and I had to frame that up she did have to trim the edges so that it was square because when it was cut it was not cut perfectly square you know and she she goes over that kind of stuff with you she's a professional been doing this stuff for years so she knows exactly what she's looking at and brings everything to light so this one's going to go in the office as well is that one and I have some more things like that that I'm trying to get cleaned up and framed for the office there's a little better shot at the posters and this is not a standard size so this is a custom sized frame and as she had mentioned they're still going to be some of the wrinkling in there and the reason behind that is because the way that the way that it's framed is that the glass is not pressing flat up against the the actual paper itself and she says that she could do that by sandwiching the poster between two pieces of glass but the problem with doing that is I did not want to alter the original chart these charts have the metal strip running across the top and the bottom so that you can hang them in a shop I did not want that cut off there I wanted to leave it original and not have it altered so I had to sacrifice the little bit of wrinkle in some of the in some of the poster by not having it pressed flat against the glass but she's got it framed up really well well you cannot see the the metal strip that's attached to the top of them you see just a little bit of the wrinkle in there but I accepted that when I dropped it off and it's going to be fine for shop use the main reason behind the frames is that I wanted to preserve the paper I did not want to get oil on it I didn't want to get the contaminants from a machine shop into the paper because these things look like they have been well taken care of and wrapped up for a very long time but this is super cool I was looking at this when I got it trying to figure out if there's any of these tools that I don't already have and let me see I think the only ones that I don't have is going to be let me see with ok the pocket gauge right here also don't have this the slide caliper I don't have a stare at slide caliper I've got a stanley I believe and let me see was there anything else everything else on there I've seen I do have oh I don't have this indicator holder right here but honestly I've never liked that design I've used one before but I didn't like it but other than that take everything else on here I do have there's a surface gage there's one of the precision levels I have a height gage I have everything there's the planer gage alright here's a look at the back of them right here put a nice heavy-duty cable even a hanger there okay that's how the other one looks - very good quality of framing so I'm gonna put these I had already picked out a spot they're gonna go right behind the shaper right on that wall there I'm gonna take my chopper down that's been up there a long time but it's time to take that down from there and I'm gonna hang my charts right there today I come back out here and I was getting started back on these these are going to be some weldments for the table legs that I'm working on we're going to turn this down we're going to drill and tap it for our pads to screw into and back whenever I was facing these things off we did a video on that and we went over there to the granite plate and inspected them and we were showing 2,000 concave from the outer diameter to the center right there and I had mentioned possibly where and the cross-slide we're in the saddle right here we're in a ways it's evident it's it's evident that it does have where it's an older machine but the other thing that I had thought about after that video was the headstock alignment on these type of machines a lot of your newer generation machines your imported machines these head stocks don't sit on the V way like some of your older like my monarch the headstock sits on the V and on the flat right there and the factory you know they scrape those things in and made them perfect these type of machines the head stocks are bolted down and they have to be aligned and they're usually aligned at the factory and I think that this headstock was off and so what I what I did was I come over here and turned a little test bar and started measuring and I was I was out quite a few thousandths so I have been trying to get this headstock adjusted in and on these cuts right here I'm getting 1/10 difference between the ends and I think I'm going to leave it right there because this it's very it's very time consuming and I've been working at this thing for a few hours now throughout the day trying to get this thing tweaked in and I'm happy where it's at you know running one tenth I haven't even measured that's four and a half inches there this one's five and a quarter inches almost a foot twelve inches right there we're getting a couple of tenths so I'm gonna leave it at that for now and I want to go back to my setup where we start turning these things and we might do another face cut to see how this concave distances is working out now that I've got some alignment done I also want to see about a line in the tailstock I'm probably gonna work on that next just to see where that's at and see about getting the tailstock aligned with where the chuck is at now the headstock so on this particular machine being the the victor 1660 you got these three bolts on the front of the headstock right there you need to loosen those and then you got two bolts right there and then on each side of these bolts you have a set screw so you tweak the set screws to pivot the headstock around and it's it's very sensitive so it took me a little while to kind of get my coordinate set right because I'd be going the wrong way and throw it out even more than it was and then have to take it back so it's not an easy task it's very frustrating and that's another reason why I didn't have the camera out for a lot of this footage because I just needed to focus on this and get it done so I'm just sharing this for anybody it might be a victor owner if you want to play with it yourself use the sets make sure these are loose these two bolts those are 8 millimeter let's see use the 8 millimeter on that and then the set screws are 5 millimeter and then these bolts up there are 10 millimeter so loosen all them and adjust it right there and then lock it back down make you a test cut and keep adjusting it as you need we're gonna do an exercise today on trying to get my tail stock aligned with the headstock there so what we're going to do is a method that I was shown by Richard King when I was in the scraping class instead of trying to sweep this with an indicator over here what we're going to do is we're going to utilize the diameter of the quill and where this is positioned at and we are going to take a piece of material I've got this piece right here and chuck this in the lathe and we are going to turn this to the exact same diameter as this quill and then we'll buck them up together we'll slide the tailstock up to it we'll run our indicator across fit the bill to see our high and low and our side to side as well so the quill on the tailstock here is 54 millimeters and then I have a piece of 56 millimeter chrome plated raw this is an old hydraulic rod just a piece that I had saved so we'll be able to use this and turn it and inspect it so I'm gonna stick it out approximately four inches or so that's probably going to be right about there and we'll use that [Music] you can see that run out from all that tool pressure on that thing that's that's one of the downfalls of a three jaw Chuck if you don't have any support out here for a workpiece that sticking out you have these huge gaps between the jaws where the part is deflecting that's not always an issue especially if you've got cleanup cuts to make but we're not really considering that a problem today I know this is metric but I'm going to be using my inch tools like I always do so 54 millimeters is equivalent to two point one two six inches and we'll verify that with our mic right there looks like it's just just about dead nuts on that to maybe a half a doubt under that from what this mic says right here that one's showing about thousands on right there it's probably got a little wear from going in and out of the in and out of the hole right here alright looks like the tip of the tool is breaking down a little bit and that depth of cut did not like the material you can see it's trying to string on me all right so it's 150 65 166 and we're getting like our half dial taper right there so 1 1 65 and a half right there so we've we've got 40 thousands I'm gonna split that again and we're gonna do 20 thousands finish cut so I'm gonna slow the feed rate down I'm going to speed this up or go 900 rpm pull that feed down a bit take 20,000 and then after this cut we're going to mic it and then take whatever is left we're pretty much exactly 20,000 saw so I'm gonna dial in 20 and a half thousands okay should put us right there if I can dial it in right and about a half it's these these lines are so fine on this on these dials here it's really hard to split it try to go right in the middle of the line there now 125 so I ended up taking a half an hour than I wanted to that right there is 125 I think I got it I said 125 and 4/10 right there so I think we're gonna call that GU D good we've got the quill run out in just a little bit so we're just going to slide this thing up right there and I am gonna lightly lock it down and I am going to lock the quill also alright because those would always be locked when you're using the tailstock I want it in a clamped position okay this should be side to side we're gonna go ahead and sweep and it's already moving and he helping us a bit right there with that movement okay plus and it's running nice and straight right there I'm gonna just use the very tip of that let's see I don't know what's up with that I don't know why three reading plus it should be running straight so I don't know what it's up to it could be the ways I don't know right there it looks like it's nine thousandths this way so we need to go about the tailstock needs to move that way about four and a half thousands we're just gauging off the end tailstock seems to be running nice and straight and as far as I can go the taper attachments hitting the box over there I can never remember which way I have to turn these things so I just have to start moving it to see what it does I'm gonna looks like that's going to be the wrong way so snug that one back up so you got a screw on each side of the tailstock and this is pretty common with every tailstock on a lay I'm loosening it up slightly and I'm going to come back to this one I'm gonna push down on it to tighten it up I'm gonna go to that five mark man it's always so tough to fit a stupid allen wrench you know socket head sometimes all right there we go make sure this one's snug zero I don't like that mm move in it's a little annoying let's keep going with it but what you want I mean it's pretty it's pretty simple this the diameter is the same in this diameter is exactly the same so when you run your indicator across tit there should be no variation and you know elevation difference there well that's looking good on the end I don't know how perfect that is considering the indicator keeps moving as we go this way it's going plus so it may not be perfect what I figured we would do that's looking pretty good if you consider the ends of the journal they're pretty pretty well close but what we can do also I've got that I've got that tool from edge technology that you run between centers it's a test bar and we can use that also to see what kind of readings we get with that so looks like I got side-to-side pretty well I may go to the back side and see you know if it's repeating over here but we'll also move to the top because it I'll tell you that there is going to be difference between top and bottom on this because you've got a machine that's at least 40 years old it's been used a lot in its day and this thing has been slid back and forth quite a bit so there is where underneath that and the way to correct that is to take this apart and put some shims in there but we're not going to do that today I just wanted to get side-to-side and fixed up let's see what the indicator says for our elevation are our height they're up and down looks like about five I'm gonna call it about five thousands difference there yeah I expected that to be a little bit low so we need to we're gonna have to go into this tailstock and shim it looks like I need probably maybe like a 2000 in in there and get it back up on center lines so maybe that would be a good project for another time we're going to use the tailstock alignment bar method now to kind of get a look at our readings and see how they compare so I've got this shot made Center in the Chuck there but it needs to be recut because it's running out so I'm gonna turn the compound around on 30 degrees usually like to wipe these things off as I spin them as that grit and stuff gets up underneath there and being up close to the Chuck like that it's a little bit harder and a little bit more unsafe if you do it this way just because you're going to be the handle it's going to be over here by the Chuck so I'm gonna I'm gonna flip it to this side try to get a dead nuts on the 30 degrees and we're gonna snug that up I'm using a high speed tool freshly honed over there on the india stone and we'll use the compound here 30 degrees to cut a nice true center that's often and bring the tool back out I am using a dead center in the till stock and then this is the bar phone ah its technology tail stock alignment bars what they call it stick it in there that was the dead now we'll set an indicator up you have to precision turn journals there that returned that we're ground on centers and then it's recheck it so you just bill to sweep it from here to here we're going to set up this no good and this dial indicator again on this journal right here try to get everything kind of leveled out we've got our zero there and I'm going to run it down to this end okay so it looks like we're getting about a half a thousand s difference from end to end we'll go back and check it so about a half over there and that one's still on zero so it looks like we got about a half a thousand difference and I'm just I'm happy with where it's at I'm gonna leave it right there [Music] you

Channel: Abom79

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Keywords: abom79, victor lathe, victor, lathe, manual lathe, engine lathe, headstock alignment, tailstock alignment, tailstock alignment bar, edge technology products, dial indicator, machine inspection

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Length: 29min 29sec (1769 seconds)

Published: Sat Aug 04 2018