Big Cincinnati 36'' Shaper has Arrived! Walk around and testing.

everyone welcome back to the shop today we're gonna go over the new shop acquisition this big bad cincinnati heavy-duty shaper my kids think this thing is the speeder from Star Wars but it's actually Shawn in 1968 in this video we're gonna be checking out how this baby works the inside of the machine how this thing operates we're gonna cut some pieces of material so I can show you how the operation and what this tool is used for in the shop let's get to it I'm 6 feet tall man look how long the RAM is 11,000 pounds 10 feet long 4 feet wide this baby's a beast I think this is the heaviest piece of equipment I have in the shop so you're probably asking yourself what is a shaper well you can make anything on a shaper except for money right which is kind of funny basically the long story short is this Ram moves back and forth making a a stroke it's very large and they take up a lot of room and you only have this much working space and the work is clamped in the vise and it uses high-speed tool bits that you could use in the lathe these are basically the tools these are just tool bits and you can grind whatever you want into the profile and you can cut away with it these machines aren't common for production anymore they've kind of been replaced by CNC machines vertical mills and and big milling machines can do what this does maybe quicker but there's some applications where this machine is still the best solution for internal key ways you can make gosh you can make anything on this machine this just might just take you a little bit longer that's why this machine is important to me because it's just plain fun let's just say we wanted to cut this slot in this part we'd start by just putting it in the vise this vise is giant I don't know here's my arm so I don't have a tape measure but that's I think that's 16 inches long or wide and about 3 inches tall this has an independent jaw that you can clamp at an angle which is kind of fun kind of like a universal vise and twin jack screws so this thing is kind of awkward I'm still kind of getting used to but look at the wrench look at the wrench to tighten this thing this thing is a serious wrench and believe me you need to put the torque on this thing and this is a tool holder to hold a piece of high speed steel this is known as the clapper box and I will get into what the clapper box does here in a second something like that okay and this tool holder we can position this high speed this is the high speed tool bit we can grind any profile into this we want and this actually is what does the cutting and this is very similar to what you'd be able to grind in on a lathe and the shaper bit just comes right inside there and you could position it at any height and you can also adjust the tool head up and down for whatever to position your work accurately and then you also have a dial or if you want to feed down manually into your work you can do that too they want they want the clapper box to be tilted like that so that when it comes back it's actually swooping up out of the way so let's take a closer look on how the vise works you have I call it it's kind of like the pusher block and this is the movable jaw they have these grooves in the vise I guess this was an option you could just choose a normal vise with one screw or this one this thing has so much power it's it's incredible you jump this back to where you want then you slide this back it can't be here half way because there's a little shoulder here has to come and sit just like that into the groove so it's a little bit slower I'm still kind of trying to get used to it but and then of course this can turn like that maybe not quite that much will give you a little angle if you have something that's tapered kind of interesting this vise is I think 20 inches long you can put a 20 inch long part into here which is just amazing has a scale on the side you can swim it so we can tilt the tilt device I didn't angle we want up to 15 degrees to tilt the table and then now we can actually tilt the table going the other axes I can do that now too I've never had this off of for Holy Smoke wreck yourself there's a graduated scale on the side of this thing that looks like I need to take some scratch Brite to and clean it up but as you can see we can just crank this round right so then you can clamp something in the vise at a weird funky angle over here position it over and and cut it it's pretty it's pretty interesting what you can do with this so or put something just turn it over so you don't have to take the vise off just physically flip it over and mount something right here onto the table if you want it perfectly flat so that's some serious versatility to it which is pretty pretty special one thing that this machine is missing that I wish it had is a automatic down feed or the for the head right here I know this was an option I'm currently searching for one so if anybody knows where I can find one use one off a scrap machine I greatly appreciate it I'd love for you to contact me if you know where I can locate one of these there's also a mechanism that lists lifts the clapper automatically on every stroke I'm after the tool lifter because in the future I might want to run some carbide tooling and the carbide when it drags on the back stroke it has the potential to chip so the tool lifter prevents that from happening so let's get into the nuts and bolts first thing we can do is we can choose how much movement we want this ramp to travel and we have a dial right here from 0 to 36 so just by turning this limp leaver on the side right here I can physically see the motion 26-28 so that's the first thing is whatever you're working in let's just take this apart for example this is really short so I'm only gonna be wanting to run like a short stroke like 2 or 3 inches long then you can come over here and choose the speed and feeds basically the speed of how fast this ram goes in strokes per minute and Cincinnati has equipped this thing with this really cool scale on the on the body here that tells you what you should be cutting at between 75 and 100 is the theoretical best feed rate so if you're doing a 10 inch stroke how many strokes does it take to get to that 7 five or a hundred and they they suggest between 50 strokes per minute we'll get you that correct surface speed this has a two-stage gearbox so I have four high gear you pull up and for a low gear you push down and then you slide it over to those selected strokes you want to turn this has a high-low gearbox and it's selected by an A or B on the switch this particular machine is powered by ten horsepower I know in the manual it said there was a fifteen as an option but this one's a ten horsepower I'm running it on 480 volts here in the shop and it's just a push-button start and we get her going in the manual that says we need to let the hydraulics and the fluid flow through the machine so they suggest putting the shifter into neutral and physically activating the electric clutch and and physically waiting till the pressure comes up on dial letting it run for three to four minutes until all the oil gets circulated around this control right here is for the left and right traverse of the of the table and we can go left or right and they got power feed in the back okay or we can switch the handle and operate it manually every rotation is a half of an H so every crank of the handle that's a half of an inch this lever on the back here it's the same thing up or down on the table we go down [Music] and then you can operate this one manually also it's pretty sweet this is 11 strokes per minute low gear at 13 inches [Music] so like I said before let's see where it's stroking now we got about four inches of stick out if you turn this lever you can see it sucking back in so now when you turn it on see now it's stroking in a different location let's go around to the back side and we'll see how this thing works so let's pop the cover open but in the meantime I'm doing this it's a good time to talk about where the machine came from and how I acquired it I was talking to my buddy Adam booth from booth machine shop aka bomb 79 and mentioned to him that I was looking for a small shaper just for odds and ends around here in the shop and just to have another fun tool around here and he happened to say hey I know where there's a shape of for sale and knowing Adam everything's large and in charge right up in my Avenue and he goes there's one on machinist buy sell trade came it's come from Alabama power I contacted the owner of the Machine and made a deal Adam lined me up with Fred to get the machine up here and Fred graciously made the long haul for the machine brought it to me and we unloaded it and here it sits so it's kind of fun came from Alabama power and from what I can tell is there the really the only owner so as you can see there's this big giant wheel inside here and what powers that wheel is the transmission and there's a little pinion gear to up this big and that's what controls how fast this wheel turns so the faster this wheels turning though the faster the RAM will turn and that's what those levers are for the speed control okay then this has a crank pin is right here and this is this by changing where this crank pin is we see this adjustment rod over here is that's telling it how far you want it to stroke okay and we'll make some changes and so this has hydraulic oil and it just splashes over everything and then it gets trapped down here at the bottom and gets pumped all over so it's hydraulic oil and hydraulic oil lubes the ways and it's the lifeblood of the machine so let's turn it on it's stroking at 8 inches right now and then we'll switch it to a lot the longest stroke 36 and we'll show you what happens to the crank pin okay I'm going to switch it to the maximum stroke of 36 and we'll see what this looks like and you should be able to see the the crankpin move alright enough of this jibber-jabber stuff let's let's slice something up let's see if I can dig some scrap top so we can make some cuts just to see how she does let's put this piece of what is this three and a half by one and a half by 17 inches long that gives you perspective of how big everything is in the vise and we'll we'll just reduce the thickness a little bit and see what make some chips fall on the floor stay oh man see where that looks we're not gonna hit anything and let's go so we know we're at a 19 or 20 20 inch stroke 20 inch stroke so we're looking at 17 to 23 let's choose 17 all right let's raise the table up here let's just try it out we'll just start there and see where it takes us okay we're touched off so you can see every stroke its advancing ten thousandths of an inch thirty thousand step over [Music] let's try a one-inch tool bit so this is 17 strokes a minute at ten thousandths feed rate [Music] [Applause] [Music] okay at 11:16 depth of cut so just under 3/4 of an inch it's 20,000 step-over no problem that's 20,000th depth of cut whoa [Music] [Applause] [Music] I got some weight to them big whoppers pretty cool I like the sound I better pick these chips up before I stub my toe on them stand on it ha I can't even crush it that's funny thank you guys for sharing your time with me and allowing me to show you the shaper I know I have so much fun operating this thing even though there's probably bigger badder better tools than this for doing the same job and operations but this machine just puts a smile on my face every time I use it there's just something about grinding your own tools and watching it cut it's very satisfying and rewarding so I'll leave you with that I look forward to sharing this machine with you on more future projects and builds here in the shop please like and subscribe if you aren't already I know it really helps me and the channel grow and I'll catch you guys on the next video [Music] [Music]

Channel: Fireball Tool

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Id: I86XFZlje0c

Length: 20min 8sec (1208 seconds)

Published: Sun Jan 13 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/marktopus]

Cincinnati used to be the tooling capital of the world before Japanese companies took over. The Cincinnati Milling Machine company later became Cincinnati Milacron and remained a very large player in the market. Cincinnati Milacron became simply "Milacron" and has since sold off their machining business to Indian companies and is mostly in injection molding and other plastic molding now.

In their recent history, Milacron has gone through Chapter 11 bakruptcy, went public, and has been acquired in the past few months. Quite the fall from being one of the crown jewels of Cincinnati manufacturing!

[u/Threethreefivee]

Damn this is so cool.

[u/danz409]

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