Shrek Forever After - Caravan of Garbage

welcome back everybody to caravanic garbage where we are wrapping up the Shrek franchise for now for now Mason yes and I say four now guys we'll talk more about more Shrek later more now and for now also we had a discussion before this started uh about what this movie was called you thought it was uh Shrek It Goes Forth but you're thinking of blackouter I am thinking of blackout yeah but this movie asked the question well two things can you leave a like on this video it was very ahead of its time and the second one is what if Shrek hated his family enough to change the entirety of space and time what if you wanted to stumble into some kind of weird Back to the Future 2 scenario where Biff took over Hill Valley an injustice kind of situation I I like to think of it yeah no no the one thing I said this one obviously is about like how utterly terrible it is to be famous and beloved and have it all boohoo you know to just still not be happy yeah I think there's something broken in your Shrek that's certainly true I think though at least he figures it out really quickly that he's [ __ ] up like almost immediately he has these little fun Montage which I really enjoyed I loved the bit will trade at a wedding I've got I've got here it says Shrek must have gotten legally married to that random man because we we cut in on that scene when they're going in for the kiss so they must have said I Now Pronounce You man and wife he was doing the voices yeah he must have been right but I think in in a way where's the where's the woman God he probably did yeah those eyeballs for his Martini yeah yeah but also like I feel probably if if you didn't recognize that your wife had been killed and eaten and replaced with a Shrek yeah that marriage probably wasn't going to work out anyway I don't know maybe he picked a woman who had like the exact statue that he had that's a good point he's not an idiot Mason still I mean he did he's an idiot so in this one obviously you know he's got the perfect life he's married and he's got three beautiful children and everybody loves him but then he's like oh this this is tough yeah but I like how tough this is and people aren't scared to be no more or not sometimes the kids have they yell at it and all that sort of stuff yeah and it's like just just get you know a babysitter and have a weekend away well yeah absolutely I think that's that weekend away and yeah also why is he like yuck dirty nappies that that seems like something you would eat yeah right like a dog will eat its own vomit I feel like Shrek would eat it does his own childhood yes yeah well okay I'd not thought about it but I think you're probably absolutely right it's like living in a chocolate factory exactly I haven't mentioned yet but um I think this is really good I thought it was pretty fun I think it's way better than the other one it's a step up from the last one yeah yeah anyway he makes a deal with Rumpelstiltskin returning villain by the way he was in the last one he's one of the villains at the bar he looks nothing like him but it's a different voice maybe there was some time dilation Back to the Future stuff going on why would you trust that dirty little rat man honestly look at it just look at him yeah he makes a deal with him in uh and Shrek uh ends up erasing the day he was born and it no longer exists and the world turns into like a as you said an injustice Style universe not what I said yeah I think one of the things about this that really works is the focus is back on Shrek and Fiona and the last movie was just like I don't know Prince Charming and we did it I don't want to talk about it I can't really remember but you know the fact that because Shrek never existed and she had to rescue herself and she's just bitter and angry and you know there's that part of her which was just completely like Stripped Away by Shrek not being there but it's really like who rescued her you know what I mean they even say that at one point Trek even says that like the emotional core of these characters in this series is back Mason I know this one is not like widely beloved there is a bit of like controversy about it but but at least they I think there's a lot of things that they attempt here and at least the villain is kind of fun and interesting yeah and also not played by like a famous celebrity no they just got a a talented voice actor apparently well no he was somebody who worked on the production who then took on this role he did the readings huh and then they were like yeah no one's better than you will do it there was actually somebody else very famous who was uh who was up for the role we'll talk about in rain trivia Mason so stick around for that Mason and some other delightful cast members we've got John hammers the handsome ogre now you say handsome right and that's true yes a few weeks back we wondered is Shrek ball he is bald it turns out because some of the other ogres do have here all these kids have hair yep his wife has hair obviously Jon Hamm's got a shaved head unless he got that like you know scalp tattoo situation going on sure maybe or it's just mud I don't know it might be mud yeah but I like all the alternate Dimension kind of characters that we see here I love that the gingerbread man is some kind of cage fighter MMA Gladiator situation I enjoy that I enjoy like little tubby Puss and Boots that's really good I love this idea of Fiona being you know this leader of the the ogre Rebellion one of her best looks I think I agree maybe your best look I think her best look too um Warrior Princess Fiona yep uh ogre Fiona yup generic lady Fiona completely gray where does when they put them all in wigs and stuff and finery and Shrek the Third what is that where does that fit yeah I think it might be last yeah fair enough uh what about donkey with mange yeah I like that a lot sure I'm loving the look at that and just even being able to reintroduce those characters and change up the dynamic slightly I don't think this one though if I had any criticisms Mason it's not as funny as the first two sure yeah but the Shrek movies they're not like exclusively comedies so it's funny would prove that that is true but also how about this I think the comedy in this one although lesser probably more Timeless because there's fewer references to like current pop songs I mean there are songs but you're right they go for more like cool edgy songs you know where you go oh that's a good song fewer Matrix kicks yeah significantly fewer yeah I also so like when all of this is is cleared up at the end Shrek gets what he wants because he gets his family back and he realizes that you know he blew it and he and he wiped his kids from Total existence I got emotional motions I got emotional I got emotional motion because I have kids and if I wipe them from existence in some kind of scenario like this which I would never do if some weird little creep in a magical Universe was like sign this contract I'd beat him up Mason B I just beat him up suggesting that to me I'd beat him up Mason you beat him up for Derry to speak to you that's right I've got a million subscribers on YouTube you'd say how dare you sir I'll kick you you little rat man it's probably called fairy tale tube and it's like a magic mirror or or no it's a pocket magic mirror Mason oh because you know the magic mirror is the TV in this universe but there's also only one I don't know how TV Works in this everybody would be looking at their little pocket mirrors on the bus typical pulled by a horse or a horse pulled bus or a goblin or whatever Goblin pulled bus but also so Shrek gets his family back and also he got to have a cool day so he kind of got everything that he wanted you know it was a cool day it was pretty intense it was a cool day and then and then what I found truly bizarre is at the end they've got Rumpelstiltskin in a cage and then they just kill his Goose sure yeah there was genuinely a moment towards the end where of course he's trying to escape on his big goose and I love that goose by the way horrible they're all they're uniformly horrible aren't they yeah they are big small they're horrible it's just the big Goose like it's not that different from an actual ghost they knock him off the goose any and he sort of tumble to the ground I thought from just a moment there might have been a moment where he just just got absolutely Million Dollar Baby he just cracked his neck well I guess like a like a like a stair or something or a chair or something yeah and everybody just stares silently at him yeah but he lived uh I also I like how he's all the Wicked Witch of the West situation that he's got you know you know see I didn't like that because there's I don't tell too many because there's too many of them okay I think what happened there is they went because the previous ones you know like him or not had a had a wide variety of villains yeah there wasn't 15 Captain Hooks or whatever exactly I think what happened here is they put all the production to the like the secondary ogres the handsome ogres and so forth and then they're like oh we don't have the time or money for from there was probably villains there was probably one initially and then they went oh yeah we'll just do a hundred and the the rat the rat Whistler which I think is his name sure now I know you love Shrek theories you say to me every week James when can we start recording so I can hear more Shrek Theory Shrek theories please yeah so here I've got some for you because this one you know when you bring in time travel and Alternate Dimensions it opens questions up in the universe but perhaps we'll be able to answer is death is death even real great question or is there only death yeah probably I don't know yeah yeah I guess yeah I guess anyways one of the theories is that Puss in Boots was the one that killed all the ogres in the normal timeline the idea of this theory is and it's pretty much implied in this movie that Puss in Boots was sent to kill Fiona just like Puss in Boots was sent to kill Shrek okay right but it didn't happen she captured him made him a little house cat and he and he lost his Edge right sure but in the regular timeline he probably killed most of the ogres now not all of them because Jon Hamm and his mates or whatever they're in the little dance at the end but there's not 400 of them that's true there's like 12 ish so he probably killed a bunch of them right he's an ogre murderer he's just at the party he's waiting for any of the ogres to like recognize him as the cat killed all their friends they're eyeing him off they're like he seems familiar but why yeah I don't know what it is yeah absolutely and this Theory I really like it's the fate of certain characters including [ __ ] wad Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming right okay dead and in hell yeah probably yeah so in the alternate Dimension that we visit in Shrek Forever timeline the fairy god reckon World War One yes the Fairy Godmother isn't in this scenario even though she should be right she should be in this Dimension she was part of the king and queen's problem and in like signing that contract all their problems disappear including the Fairy Godmother who instigated a bunch of the tower stuff and and and whatever's right Prince Charming in this universe also was probably just killed by the dragon because in Shrek 2 he goes to make a rescue attempt and Fiona's not there so in this scenario Fiona was never rescued this guy probably ran in and got torched immediately nice nice and farquad who should be in this universe also you know how he hated all freaks and all that kind of stuff sure I'd imagine no he's a freak he's a freezer weird little freak is I mean that army of like Supernatural which is just probably just killed him and he's inside kingdom and there's actually really got it with those those skulls on chains and it doesn't change true and quartered him exactly yeah it wouldn't have taken long no no no no no no oh a little freak yeah there's actually a a spooky Halloween uh spectacular you know little spin-off thing where you actually find out what happens to his kingdom how it's all abandoned and all of that thing and whatever but that's not what we're here to talk about we're here to talk about green trivia Mason now is it called Green trivia because of Shrek Mason no thank you but coincidence coincidence does it have the guy shouts Rodney though oh it might yeah it does nice Rodney Rodney Rodney Rodney [Applause] here we go Mason is some green trivia some fun little facts about Shrek in this movie little facts in the audio commentary for the DVD release director Mike Mitchell States Brogan who's the John Hamm one ah was originally meant to be Prince Charming the villain from Shrek III with the same curses Fiona his name was gonna be whatever Charming is backwards or something like that yeah which I don't hate that idea at all yeah as this movie is essentially about a crisis in Shrek and Fiona's marriage very relatable uh the production team actually consulted with various marriage counselors about how the characters should best act do you think he did enough wooing to get her back really you don't think you put in the time I mean he only had 24 hours before the sun comes up and whatever that is true that's all I'm saying well all I'm saying is I don't know true loves kiss you know can you get that going in 24 hours before the sun goes down yeah yeah you can he did it in the first movie good point actually yeah I knew each other for what 14 hours or whatever it was that's fine here we go there were originally intentions for the first movie's villain Lord Farquaad to be alive in the alternate Dimension where Shrek was never born John Lithgow was announced to be appearing in the movie but he along with other Shrek villains only appeared in the post credits the final movie Mason there's been a few times where they're like John Lithgow's coming back now just kidding he's in that Shrek spooky ride or whatever we talked about uh I don't know if you know this but this Remains the only Shrek movie to date where Shrek is not saying getting kicked in the groin did you know that I didn't know that but now that you're bringing now that you bring it up it's the only thing I can see right just an uncrushed crotch very very disappointing I agree uh the role of Rumpelstiltskin was originally meant for Sir Paul McCartney whoa but he dropped out due to creative differences I mean they had to Live and Let Die in the last movie didn't they sure they did yeah that would have been not good creative differences yeah uh so Paul can you read these lines no Abby Road yeah we know Paul God get over it I was in wings too well no one cares Paul no one cares about wings it's a super group it wasn't a super group you're thinking of the Traveling Wilburys you think you're not George Harrison he was it get out of here all right we're gonna we're gonna chalk this up to creative and we said was creative differences yeah I guess all right McCartney he's in one of the Pirates movies yeah yeah I'm sure he's terrific also interestingly enough there's no Gilligan's Island trivia in the IMDb page for some reason oh this guy got bored but I guess he did what are you doing that guy get get on this come on yeah I was expecting it uh box office though this had a budget of between 135 to 165 million dollars and it had a return of 752 million about 50 million less than the last still big though still bigger than the first Shrek movie also but the thing is they just kind of killed it it's weird in an era where these still did well right they went let's not but it's did Mike Myers maybe that's part of it yeah I mean he seems like a guy who you know I I guess feels like I've told all the story I can or I've you know I've got what I can out of this and I'm I'm happy to kind of Wayne's World too Wayne's World too exactly yeah yeah no you might be right but you know there has been as mentioned various Shrek specials and there was a Shrek Show thank you and there was you know obviously the 2022 Puss in Boots movie there's also been Puss in Boots like serieses on Netflix or whatever but you might be like Israel coming back Mason I am wondering if he's gonna come back oh of course there's the Shrek the Musical there's Shrek the Musical uh which I haven't seen but by all accounts is a musical and trackingly good that's what I've heard from you but you also haven't seen it you saw that on a post I saw a lot of posties yeah but here's the all the information we currently have about Shrek five first of all is return is teased at the end of Puss in Boots at the end they're going towards far far away land or whatever is it like the end of split yeah we just go into a Tavern and he's watching the events of Puss in Boots on a TV screen he goes That's one or a mirror yeah or me yes it would be that one mirror yes yeah uh no he's just going towards the kingdom or whatever it's weird there's a far far away land and it's ruled by King Arty as in King Arthur and there's a France but it's not England and or is it great question because it's kind of LA or something maybe Shrek 5 will provide all the answers we need well here's something from screenwriter Michael McCullers this is what excuse me that's the real name is these all just Mike Myers because the director's like Mike Mitchell and this guy's Mike McCullers I don't know hey hey Mike Myers who's doing the who's doing the script writing on this uh Mike MC colors it's a friend from college Scottish College Mike says it's got a pretty big uh reinvention behind it that I guess I can't reveal but reinvention was sort of called for there's been four movies and a lot of material so the characters are pretty beloved and they're great characters but you also have to think of a pretty new take at that point cyber Shrek cyber Shrek in the future I think at this point you could also be like these kids have grown up so we don't have to do any of that and we don't have to get Mike Myers that's true if he doesn't have to do it they made this though James Corden I'm not even one of the people who hate him but the idea of that makes you physically ill disgusting he would eat a diaper probably do you think yeah but not feel like a sketch oh I was gonna say for like a viral no he'd just do it oh no I didn't even hate him Mason yeah it seems that way so yeah I I just think you know if his kids are aged up or not in it at all you know he could have Shrek can't relate to a teenager because they're always on their little mirror or whatever I've got too many yoga children yeah but you notice at the end when he puts the book on the Shelf there's a number of books up there including Puss in Boots which is of course the movie after this in 2011 the first one but tell me if any of these titles which are actually in the movie are of interest to you Fiona of Troy sure I guess The Taming of the Shrek doesn't make any sense but all right A Midsummer Night's Shrek oh I like that one Shrek and the Beanstalk oh I mean a giant would be cool right yeah shook us to go because maybe his kid climbs and beanstalks yeah yeah I don't know I made another horrible Goose you could be horrible ghost ah just another goose we could see killed on screen yes please but of course this one point was the biggest animated franchise of all time monetarily Mason it's now of course been surpassed by minions slash Despicable Me but this is made something like three and a half billion dollars there might be another number here's the actual number on the screen wow Ben and Lawrence put it up yeah so I want more Shrek though I love Shrek but what this this sounds like it's going to be a reboot of some kind I think it will be a soft reboot I don't think that would go new Shrek new you know whatever okay new whatever yeah yeah okay right I mean I don't know it's like when they did The Amazing Spider-Man it's like I don't need this again and slightly differently like I would rather a continuation sure maybe a force awakened style reboot where it's the same movie again mostly maybe maybe like you said like Amazing Spider-Man just the events of Shrek 1 but they're being listened to by a couple of guys in a van a Subs in a subplot that goes nowhere oh I would love that but it's the the van is pulled by like Gremlins or whatever yeah by Gremlins anyways did you have a shrekingly good time with this movie I had a regular good time with this movie follow-up question would you have us did you have a shrekingly good time with this franchise I think overall I had a trekkingly good time pretty pretty solid return on these four movies I would say I think so you know yeah yeah I mean you know they are a product of their time some of the stuff is a little bit dated The Matrix kick yes yeah I agree it's just a just a pretty nice weird Universe oh you know what the fifth one should be like Matrix resurrections and it's Shrek and Fiona meet in a coffee shop and they think they remember each other but they're not sure why another dimension or something Neil Patrick Harris is there okay what does he say he's a gremlin okay but it doesn't matter what he says but he's a gremlin I guess it doesn't matter yeah anyways do you want to head towards next week Mason yeah here it is [Music] hey guess what what you could say that early oh my God I mean you'll have to record it with me first okay so after that's happened if you head over to bigsalmich.co the edits always go up there a day early so what you're suggesting is I record this with you and then I go to big sandwich and I pay yeah nine US dollars per month which is a bargain I agree because it's not actually just the early videos is it right there's movie commentaries bonus podcasts there's bonus podcast that's right there's a whole bunch of stuff there our podcast the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows goes up there a day early on Monday as opposed to Sunday why wouldn't you do that Mason sounds incredible I mean if you're not going to do it why would anybody else do it it's a great Point yeah I've got to lead by example exactly all right everybody we'll see you soon for another video hell yeah grab that track you guys we'll see you next week is that gonna continue yeah probably all right cool great Days of Future Past oh yeah it's like a Days of Future Past movie yeah but like who are they meeting Professor X okay sure [Music]

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Published: Thu Feb 23 2023