Ships of the Romulan War - Ft. Mark Naccarato

hey guys welcome to this edition of Trek yards I'm captain fully and this is Kawana talking tell you guys and our special guest this week is Mark NACA Rado from the Romulan war a fan town mmm Stewart though hmm not quite buying you for an alternate reality or are you just an impostor Stewart I think the goatee is a giveaway that we are in an alternate reality he has a goatee - OH doesn't wear caps often though okay and these are different background that's the giveaway yeah just look at the background that's that's the giveaway okay mm-hmm yeah no Stu enjoys today and so doing because timing is the essence with this filming so we're just talking to mark about the woman award today odd Trek yards and about the ship's doing a sort of general like Oh all the many many ships because actually mark you went for kind of a plethora of a fleet I think it's fair to say for this film the more ships the better that's how I look at it didn't you always feel like I I always found it kind of hard to believe that the NX class was the only ship in the field during the enterprise era we saw ships we saw several other ships so it stands to reason what with humans being out in space for several dozen well almost a hundred years that they would have a wider variety of spacecraft well it reminds me of a lot of video games the RTS is in space where there's like a tech tree that you you developed a certain big ship at the end and for all the Star Trek mod it's light and the sovereign or the you know Negron and stuff and and normally I play them I build up and then I get a ton of those because if you have a stronger ship in the game you can win any battle because if you throw 30 the stronger ship you can sort of win but then really it's and I know we talked about this right at the start the project cause I'm the effects artist on the film so you know disclaim on that is that obviously not a be sure should serve every purpose because that's a bit silly and and there are limitations for everything you know sometimes you don't need the offense you want that power to the engines or maybe you need a really efficient ship or maybe you know quick response you know you can't be holding an X in orbit just in case you need to relay some bloody trial planet but if you send another you know what four point seven ship you know four or whatever and again just construction times eight two years to make it an X we could do three warp Delta as well pack in the same phase cannons and yes might have the same power output but it's still a strong offensive force so I guess so I guess there's double down run so based on on TV the the cannon of the Enterprise series which we saw a few ships then they skip from war and give us a tablet outro and then now two novels about ramen war so going into your own project what was your mentor do it came to these ships who fought in the nominal war and I guess why what we want to see we know that or we believe that based on all the pieces of cannon that there were several other ships in Starfleet and remember this is the United Earth Starfleet not the Federation Starfleet so you we know that there were ships like the Franklin class presumably the datalist class was an operation at this time as well and you might and of course we saw the the several ships on screen briefly like the warp Delta and the intrepid class so and then there was the elite observer which was that sort of civilian passenger ship and so we wanted to see all those in use and sort of bring it all together and you know how would this play out what roles would they have in the Romulan war what would be effective what wouldn't be effective so it's a really cool playground to play in and again with this electors about the internal structure of the romanov all the fan films this is you know sort of a Marx thought process on how it will make sense so it's not it's sticking to Canon but there is not that much Canon so it's all on top so I guess sure the the sense you've got French prize I think it's fair to say was that they made this great class the NX it worked a treat and they put all their results into creating more so you know you list all these other ship classes are they all the legacy ships that have existed the last 10 15 20 years you know the fleet that already exists or do you think Starfleet oh you're the production you know lead in your time on I I still building in Trevor classes or are they really you know making the strongest ship of the fleet or they still producing all the lesser ships despite their age well an N in the Romulan war earth find itself very quickly in a military conflict with a powerful alien species so several things have to happen first of all is Starfleet has to marshal its forces a lot of what's happening in the political realm at the time is the Starfleet ships like your intrepid and your warp Delta those ships are sort of not gathered in one place they're out sort of escorting freighters and there are other human colonies in in the Alpha and Beta quadrant at the time so these ships are doing support missions and ferrying supplies and passengers between the colonies along the trade routes so one of the things that has to happen is the existing ships that are in the field who don't really have a centralized mission profile per se they're sort of like patrol ships or couriers or escorts they all have to be brought together and formed into fleets and as far as what Starfleet is building when the war begins the NX is the state of the art there is a proposal on the board for a refit NX class and the other thing we reveal is that there is a a warship that Starfleet had been working on in the wake of this Xindi incident several years earlier and this is an again an our universe so that ship isn't quite ready yet so it takes several years after hostilities break out for this new battleship to join the fight and it's called the Yorktown class ship which which you designed a Blee and well in that way we had a pre-existing design which was you know brilliantly you had that model and you had that jumping-off point then we next it and then redesigned a few things to fin the because all the TOS design there had to be an ACCI and kind of lucky that it worked so well actually I think we do like a scale trial of breaking down all different as it really fits is like paint an ultimate evolution you know different form follows function to that era but I'm very easily not but yeah I really dig that what we've done with that I will say right I guess is unheard of leader it's kind of the first kind that's okay so that was one of the that sort of the background I think that the way we had sort of laid it out was the the warp deltas which were sort of the slowest ships in the fleet because they were the oldest sort of remained back in the Sol system as sort of patrol perimeter defense pick up defense force because they couldn't keep up with the rest of the fleet or escape if they got into trouble the Intrepid's were put out in the field to guard convoys the NX class ships of which I believe there were six in the fleet as the war unfolds the NX ships were sort of the flagships for each of the smaller fleets that the joint task forces that either were Starfleet only or if they were joint task forces with other alien ray there are several times where you know Starfleet ships mingle with the Tellarites or the Andorians and typically you'll see that the NX ships are sort of the flagships for those fleets and then the data lists is for lack of a better word cannon fodder they were not designed for heavy combat one of the things we talk about is about a year into the war they refit some Daedalus class ships with more weapons and some some nuclear payloads as well and so you have to to sort of there's the datalist mark one which were the ones that were in existence before the war and then in order to build some new ones the mark twos which I believe went a little bit faster they were heavily more heavily armed having more of a warship profile versus an explorer profile and and were armed with nuclear weapons well I guess it's worth and jumping on the deadly soldier we got a version in this film now we only ever saw the TOS tideless and it was you know only ever on a desk you know that the Canon of it is a very strange one their evil must solve license through CBS worked out that's what the official look of now the T is dead letters was heavily approved and you know all those steps not talk to them about that process so I'm leaving or seen some of the novels that talk about the dead Lass's because it's only a fan fan favorite fan legacy ship but what was your take then where's it wet where was it designed the timeline shows well in my version of the timeline the Daedalus class was already a ship of the line before enterprise even starts before it even came on in and has been in service between ten to twenty years already and the idea being that Starfleet and you spa you know the Earth's space probe agency have been experimenting with different ship profiles to improve the performance and manoeuvrability and the warp Delta in that in that chronology the the warp Delta would have been one of the first Starfleet ships with it's sort of Delta configuration that met Arrowhead design and and then they experimented with some other shapes as well the the SOT the sphere from the Daedalus you saw the half saucer from the intrepid class and then eventually they get to the full saucer on the full saucer ends up being the most optimal engineering result for for efficient space travel the Daedalus is you know what do you think even reach warp 3 of me able to be refitted I'm sure I could recall before after but I think it was the for the the premiere warp 3 ship and then Franklin was your premier what for ship yeah something like that and you know I mean it's worth thinking about whether Starfleet would be as they make improvements in work reactors and efficiency it's worth considering that would they retrofit some of the existing ships with these new warp reactors and would that work successfully and integrate I don't you know I don't know there were probably some tests where they took an old Daedalus class ship that can only know warp 3 and then put a work a work for or work 4.5 reactor in it because of the needs of the war and perhaps the first two or three ships don't survive you know or or that there's some combat stresses where they have to jettison the and start over or something goes wrong the idea being by the time Starfleet is is equipping itself in getting on a war footing it is in fact every available opportunity refitting its existing fleet with faster engines with weapons you know and getting those technological advances installed although as I'm want to do I'm doing research as we as we speak actually but Enterprise the weird ones they wanted to show us the evolution the Angus was launched 21:52 but warp 2.2 and 2 was reached in 21:43 so just less than 10 years earlier so if the ship is 20 years old it wouldn't even be a whopper to ever be a world one ship which is all feeling you could rationalize we're you know when they when they hit the work 3.5 threshold with another or say the Franklin when the Franklin achieves were for why wouldn't periodically they really call the Daedalus class ships that were already in the field not just to earth but to the other facilities and say Alpha Centauri shipyards or one of these other facility no I just mean when was little east of 20 years before then that's 20 years that's still 10 years before even warp to was reached so the ship was not remotely launched because I was trying as soon as I forgot wasn't as far back as that so then do you think the they were first ship sports route reach warp 1.5 or even the first ships to reach what warp 1 being that you know a Phoenix is a is a is a missile with a warp engine you can't you know you can travel three people across a Lightyear with it whereas scaling up to a proper full ship that's a whole different process so maybe then the dead Lissa's were the first interplanetary ship of what 11.5 and then it took years to refine to warp to and then they got 3 & 4 & 5 then 10 years some reason but sure timelines yeah hi speaking of Franklin so what was your I mean obviously beyond as a strange but a cannon because it's meant to be prime but as we know if on Hargrove's was told to zone ancient federation ship that started out being like 300 years old which would have been the nine like 1800s so not the right amount of thought put into that but i mean you you said to me pretty early on they oughta franklin did you always may want to Franklin class did you imagine it would look the same as it did him beyond or did you hope that some CG guy like me would say hey I'll prime it up for you else that was the thought process by the Franklin yeah the ladder I think it's pretty um we would definitely want to see we do want to keep the Franklin class I think that's a good addition to the Star Trek Canon in the history though it's almost certainly not going to have the same visual [Music] specific visual profile as what we saw in the in the new Trek in the Jane Jane first so you tell me what what improvements did you feel were worthy of because I consider them to be improvements what improvements did you feel work worthy of including on the new Franklin class ships well it's a it's a tremendously lucky accident how close it is and how it could fit every day all it all I did was it was I made the the bridge window black so there is no bridge window anymore you know took out the blades made the besides the exact same settings as the nx-1 because that's you know if you actually actually look at the evolution they made it through a lot of pre NX ships in from cost ogre to warp Delta and they all have the exact same engine style you know within an evolutionary step you know it was clear that is the design of those engines clearly the red is the Bussard of the time that every single ship has that I remove the litte ball part of the back which there's no reason why I would be late I just made at the correct color in X and then I changed the impulse engines made them the correct blue as opposed to I think red or a bright yellow it's simple color changes but remember I showed you you know as soon as you I also took all the rust away because that's again a distinct Frank and I also the parents away that were TNG that Sean didn't mean for beyond final model but didn't bother changing because I didn't think to which means there's TNG pennants JJ track whole lot of broken cannon but it's amazing when you redo his simple changes that removes the j janus the design itself fits in just fine and so was your meant out in full of Franklin class water roll do you think because I mean she's a warp for test ship I mean how many warp four test ships you build before as he said you would take the engine and refit into an older exploratory or defense craft you know it's very small and not very capable so how many would you build and how many would you know I mean like you haven't got that many resources with you how many star bases you're not gonna build 10 rubbish ships you know so what was it full process on having those in the fleet I think the throw up first of all even though it was the first ship that could go to work for it has a distinct engineering style designs design aesthetic and it seems kind of inefficient for them to just be it for it to be a one and done so I mean you have to set up a fleet yard and your industrial replicators and your manufacturing to build one ship seems pretty inefficient and this is a period where earth is on its own and you can't share resources necessarily with other world so it's gonna get the biggest bang for its buck it's there they're wood it makes it doesn't really make any sense for their to only be one Franklin class work for ships so we expand that logic to say that there were several that were built they were they were designed as courier ships primarily to move people to either Mako or Starfleet officials to locations distant locations very quickly on diplomatic missions or technical advisers or whatever and and then once the rest of the fleet gets integrated with these work four engines which are being now installed into the Daedalus class and into the Intrepid's and some of the other older ships of the line then the Franklin's role is basically shifted to a sign they're they're assigned to the Makos to use as for training where they practice you know special ops or fleet maneuvers or perhaps testing new kinds of weapon point defense weapons or missile projectile weapons you know look at the timelines there is so few years between warp 2 and 1 5 you know less than 10 and so even if you were to say we were really you know had the warp 1 what 1.5 ship before 10 years before that that isn't a lot of years to even design these new class I'll intrepid Frankland you know Delta all these other things and to build them UNIX took 2 years and it's the biggest ship for sure but you know we're we're not per se an exploration craft entity you know we had some colonies but that's like going to the moon just more galactic sense the NX was the first one that really went out to explore explore it self-contained it could do it and be fast enough to do those missions so without exposion with a primary purpose you know the amount of ships you build a relative so and there's something we talked about very early on I kinda like the idea that honestly how many ships could they even be considering I think we bit cities they got tens tens Construction docks you're working in mold you know in there three planets you know it's a very limited set of resources and each ship and you know they take six months to build okay you've only got you know X number of ships is absolutely fine number of those nine years and if you wanna refit them as well you know do you spend your time in the drydock building a new Daedalus or the six months to refit the old one you've already built would you built three years ago yeah well all the deltas or whatever so how many ships might even be and then do we get a sense in in in the Roman award that you know as we see them get destroyed and this is one of the 27 ships now got 20 now got 18 know what sort of numbers are talking about in this super small amount of time of the Roman war first of all there's two things to think about there is first of all earth per se is not the only manufacturer starships used by humanity so you have Starfleet facilities and you have privately owned facilities like the there's there's facility on Alpha Centauri Zefram Cochrane has constructed and it's churning out ships that are primarily being used in that's that region of space in Sector two and they're just as well cuz that pretty big they've got a huge cabeza yeah their necks a lot of sure and and there's I would say that as far as the cargo ships like York a class senior at their J class in your Y class there's probably dozens if not hundreds of those already flying the spaceways at this time because the the cargo ships in some ways predate a lot of what Starfleet has been putting out those are not a sign those are not Starfleet ships those are assigned to the earth cargo service and where many of them are still in private hands so the most amount of ships you're ever gonna see are going to be coming from the ACS and the civilian ships Starfleet's military assets and using the term military assets loosely estimated that you'd probably be looking at over a span of let's see Starfleet when is Starfleet chartered in the 21 thirties 20 of the beginning of the 22nd century over a span of anywhere from 30 years or so you probably got several dozen Starfleet ships most all of which are out there to support the colonies to safeguard transportation the shipping and then also to do work like you know they are still mapping there's you know maybe a ship is on assignment by University to do a study of a nebula or there's another ship that's specifically designed to drop communication relays along a path to Alpha Centauri or out to Tau Ceti or out to death and that's its role to drop communications relays and that's not going to be an NX it might be a Daedalus class ship that travels at or two or three or it's got a new engine and it can drop more in a shorter period of time so the the the size of Starfleet at the beginning of the war I'm gonna say probably about 40 or 50 ships and then during the course of that they build several dozen more you know tell us about the ones that are getting destroyed throughout I was about to say you know they get hit quite hard in the Roman warrior at the start and here's a is a little while conference do you think then that they would say right everything goes to ship construction is that you know or even all-call because you don't need cargo ships at that point you move a guy'll getting blown up we're all with Starfleet you know do a mandate all civilian contractors you're building I've even if you can't build an X or a warp dealt or you know an intrepid to building Daedalus absolutely as it was any major war I would think that you know any of the civilian contractors that are still constructing non-military ships are gonna have their facilities commandeered by the government to get on a war footing close out today's episode so thank you Mark for joining I mean us I mean you're here so thanks for being with me today and so closing thoughts on the ships and and the project cuz we're running out of time to fundraise as you know all this is so emotional though it was good after that as well bits promotion of the IndieGoGo campaign which is still running as we speak as this comes out you know they filmed it beforehand to any loss or words on the ships and of the camp I my take on this is if folks want to see all of these cool ships in action it would be great if they could contribute to the campaign because it's very crucial that we hit our goal so that we're able to deliver the scale and the scope and include all these great designs and see them in action during the war so if you want to see this sort of you know let's throw it all out on the on the table let's see how a giant space battle with the Intrepid's and the work deltas and and in all the different than the Yorktown class the annex class and the refit and all those let's get those all out there and see what that looks like in action against the Romulan Navy we need your help to fund this so I think it's donate then there's an a URL that's very complicated on IndieGoGo or the easy way to do it would just be to go to our website at the Romulan war calm and from the Romulan war comm you can click through to the IndieGoGo campaign you can see the trailers that we posted what we've been blogging about and there is a primer on all these ships in the fleet that that you and I've been talking about Samuel whether it's the United Earth Starfleet ships the Romulan ad ships and the civilian human ships as well as the other coalition of planets our allies there's some descriptions and pictures you know what the Tellarites have with the Vulcans have what the in Dorian's have so if you go to the website Romulan Wars calm I'm you can contribute and you can find out more details about all these cool shares things and until next time guys I am come on des cooking's and I'm captain fully a no I'm mark decorated from the Ronnie Lenoir ohayo some guys you

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Length: 28min 39sec (1719 seconds)

Published: Sat Jun 02 2018