SECRET INVASION: Where are the Avengers?

Avengers [Music] hey hey welcome back screen Crush I'm Ryan Airy so the most important line we've heard in the show secret Invasion has been totally overlooked and what happens if the Avengers return this line confirms that the Avengers split up following Avengers end game and this line is huge for many reasons one I really don't understand why they would break up but I'm going to talk about that in a second but two it also gives us a road map for where the MCU is going from here on out and it tells us exactly what kind of Avengers team we can expect in the future so this line means that following the events of infinity War when every single superhero stood arm and arm to save the universe that a few of these Heroes didn't even bother to say hey guys we should keep doing this now clearly the MCU has planned this for a reason so I'm going to talk about how and why the Avengers will reassemble during phase five but I'm also going to tell you why I think that's a big mistake and I think the reason phase four was the weakest phase is because we needed an Avengers movie so in the most recent episode of secret Invasion spoiler alert for episode 4 by the way alien terrorists attacked the president of the United States now this would already nearly be a job for The Avengers you know the powerful people who can fight the battles that we never could in the old days cap would have shown up in a quinjet or Tony would have dispatched the iron Legion from space but now the Tony drones have all been seized and appropriated by damage control the superheroes no longer have a contingency in place for disastrous events like this and I think that the hero's decision to not reform The Avengers was ultimately selfish and I'm going to prove that to you I mean these superheroes had their reasons but as Fury would say they're stupid ass reasons the heroes have acted selfishly and they hung Nick Fury out to dry hey by the way man I'm gonna have lunch you want some person are you shoving cornmeal into your mouth like Winnie the Pooh or if Winnie the Pooh a cornmeal instead of honey yeah I know there's a way to turn cornmeal into food I just don't know what it is I mean there has to be a better way now back to what I was saying now the show has given us an excuse for why Fury didn't call the superheroes for help we get them in a fight with the Scrolls and next thing you know they find themselves duplicated and turned into terrorists I actually think that there is another reason he didn't call them though a deeper more personal reason that I'm going to talk about later on but first of all I have to point out that all this is indirectly adapted from the comics so I'm going to explain that adaptation because it will inform what's going to happen next in the MCU so back in the 1980s the Scarlet Witch and vision had twin Sons conceived with magic and complicated otherworldly stuff that I'm not going to go into right now but then in an issue of the West Coast Avengers it was revealed that Wanda actually just imagined her sons into existence and they were pieces of Mephisto too around this time vision's memory was white and the kids were absorbed back into Mephisto long story the point is that afterwards Agatha Harkness places a spell on Wanda to make her forget her children this is because Wanda has the power to rewrite reality and her grief makes her very unstable and so for years The Avengers lied to Wanda never mentioning that she had kids because she couldn't be trusted with that knowledge but then the WASP kind of let this information slip and the Scarlet Witch began to subconsciously sabotage The Avengers killing the Jack of Hearts summoning Ultron Bots to fight the team destroying Avengers mansion and then Dr Strange showed up and revealed that Wanda doesn't have mutant Powers she's a very powerful sorceress who uses chaos magic brother this sounds very familiar yes it was all Loosely adapted into one division Wanda mourn's Vision creates a spell to make her forget has twin Sons loses twin sons and vision is resurrected with no memory in both the comics and the movies The Avengers failed Wanda and it caused huge problems in the MCU eventually wanders grief and proximity to the dark hole drove her insane in the movie Multiverse of Madness oh my God person that smells delicious what are you eating that's why this is a black pepper and sage pork chop served with smoked cheddar brussels sprouts and creamy broccoli it's delicious too I told you not to hire a personal chef at work it is far too expensive and costly for our tiny budget oh no no this meal is very affordable and it's not takeout plus I didn't make it either this is a meal from Factor America's number one ready to eat meal kit this meal is delicious and nutritious the thing is guys it's summertime we're making plants it's too hot to cook but Factor makes it easy to eat a healthy balanced diet so now I skipped the grocery store with a factor meal that is delivered straight 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decide that they should disassemble the team for personal reasons they failed their friend and that caused chaos and destruction so the world was by that logic better off without the Avengers now after this Wanda rewrote reality to create a perfect world where mutants ruled the planet and she has like a large family which is a lot like Wanda creating the sitcom reality in one division so this event was called Avengers disassembled now after that crossover we saw a couple new Avengers teams one of them was called The New Avengers is Luke Cage Wolverine Spider-Man and also there were the Young Avengers so I'm going to talk about a little bit later in the video the point is the reason the Avengers stayed broken apart part is because they fail to help their friend it was personal they personally believed that they could no longer protect the world and that the world would be better off without the Avengers so the Smith and new people had to resurrect the team but this idea that the Avengers broke up for the good of the world does not work with where the characters end up after Avengers end game following Captain America's Civil War The Avengers already broke up for personal reasons like a band like like the Beatles now that movie established a clear reason the Avengers could not work together Tony and Steve had strong personal differences on how the Avengers should operate I mean they got personal that Shield doesn't belong to you my father made that Shield now this is sort of similar to The Avengers disassembled comic book where the Avengers split up for personal reasons and of course that breakup in the MCU allowed Thanos to win forcing the team to come together in Avengers end game an end game Thanos devastated The Avengers destroyed their headquarters and after that movie most of the team went their separate ways which doesn't really make sense in context of the Marvel Cinematic Universe so let me run through the list of what happened to all these Heroes post Avengers endgame Carol had basically no interest in ever protecting the Earth and she went back into space to help not find the Scrolls a home she never really joined the Avengers she just kind of freelanced with them so sorry I have to deal with this you can get my number from Bruce it was so nice to meet you yeah I I don't have her number rocket and nebula were proxy Avengers while the Guardians were dusted so when their family came back they went into space to formalize the Guardians and make them into an official Galactic protectorate Thor like he always does what goes off into space on a journey of self-discovery which we saw in the most disappointing movie of phase four I want to feel shitty about something I think that's you that movie did end with him adopting a potential young Avenger and teasing Hercules I'm going to talk about in just a bit because Hercules would have been a great reason for a new roster of Avengers to have formed the end of phase four I made a mistake now obviously a few of the End Game Heroes died Natasha Tony Vision Revision came back yes and I'll talk about how we could be in the new team in just a bit Clint retired to make up for lost time with his wife and kids and his TV show is basically about passing the torch on to a new generation Scott one of the same thing as Clint to make up for lost time with his daughter and hope was never really an Avenger she just wanted to run her father's company where frankly she does a lot more good than she would have liked busting bad guys heads Steve Rogers also retired preferring to go back in time for a dance to completely disrupted the space-time Continuum I guess you can say that Pepper Potts retire too but as far as we know she only wore that rescue armor one time that we know of Tony even says mom never wears anything here all right what about Sam and back here that could have been the new Avengers well of course we saw that in Falcon the Winter Soldier Bucky may have been cured from his Hydra brainwashing but he's still making amends for it in the comics after Steve is killed Bucky doesn't initially want to become Captain America because he feels like he's unworthy the same thing happens in the MCU where he wants to cleanse himself of his past and Sam had his own soul searching to do so he gets back to what's familiar working for the government and then fixing a book and you know what the same is true of roadie he lost his best friend so he goes back into government service where he thinks he can do the most good and like several Heroes just kind of have their own lives Peter Parker still needs to finish high school he wants to go on dates not save the world Doctor Strange is already protecting the world along with all the other sorcerers and long as sorcerer Supreme so he wouldn't just up and join another team after all he's got Sopranos episodes to watch right about Rhonda well Wanda is the last person who would join a reformed Avengers remember Tony had her arrested and then chased her down for years her only attachment was to vision and then this happened [Music] age and then like from her perspective she wakes up moments later and the rest of the team just left her to grieve on her own and then we've got t'challa and Valkyrie both of whom had countries to run hell Fury even ran through this list and Far From Home the more about Thor off world okay um Doctor Strange unavailable now look even though there were reasons for these team members to go off and do their own thing there were even more compelling reasons for them to stay together Infinity war and end game showed the reason they needed to remain The Avengers to have some kind of organization to deal with these large-scale threats now I have to think that two or three of these Heroes would have said hey we got to keep this going for instance Bruce Banner he's never been like a team leader but we do see him taking a leadership role in phase four he welcomed Xiang Chi to the hero life stay safe welcome to the circus and when his cousin gets Powers he's extremely Keen to teach her how to be a hero I know you didn't ask for this but whether you like it or not you're now a superhero and who's gonna protect the world if it isn't people like us but honestly I think that war machine would have been the first person to try to reform the team he already stepped away from working with the government that's the court martial and he was an active Avenger during the blip and he would have kept the team going to honor his friend Tony's memory but I guess he's a scroll so that would explain why he didn't want the team to reform but then why did The Avengers not reform well Doug maybe the heroes thought that the team didn't need to reform like after the first Avengers movie the team splits up and fury just knows that they're going to come back together because we'll need them too maybe all these Heroes at the end of end game would have this idea like yeah you know we're all good at our own thing so when the time comes we can protect the Earth after all they kind of made it look easy in Avengers end game so Roadie put his faith in government Sam kept doing military work you get the idea now the lack of an Avengers team creates a lot of Storytelling opportunities but I think the team needed a better reason a personal reason to stay apart all right how does how did no Avengers make for a better story well dude think about it I mean the lack of the Avengers creates a huge power vacuum in this universe Quentin Beck took advantage of that power vacuum and Far From Home in fact in that movie faux Fury was going to a world security meeting at europol and he was planning to bring Clinton back along maybe to create some kind of international Avengers and Val is creating her own team of super soldiers and assassins to protect America's Global interests if the U.S was the only country in the world with vibranium I I actually dream about now this power vacuum is going to be a key part of phase five we have the Thunderbolts movie where the government's Shady super team will hopefully recruit villains like Zemo to be in their Rank and I'm betting that Captain America Brave New World will show the government way overreaching maybe using the leader to try to create global stability in the hero's absence and there's even rumors that that movie is going to end with Sam going off to recruit a new Avengers team but we're not going to see a new Avengers movie until 2025 with Avengers the Kang Dynasty and I think that delaying this new Avengers team has severely weakened phase four what do you mean all right well look phase one through three culminated in big team up films the events in all those phases all kind of fed into this big Team Up movie Captain America introduces us to the Tesseract Thor introduces us to Loki they all meet in The Avengers shield fell and Winter Soldier so the Avengers became the new world peacekeeping force in Age of Ultron which they royally screwed up you get the idea so I'm seeing a few common complaints about phase four one that the quality is dropped because they're doing too much another complaint is that they're doing too much and you can tell the CGI budget has been wearing the one ring too long I feel thin thin sort of stretched like but scraped over too much bread but mostly a lot of people have complained that the MCU feels disconnected now this universe thrived because of its characters and the way those characters connected the idea that Captain America could pop up in a Thor movie or the giddy joy of seeing scenes like this I am Steve Rogers but in phase four it seemed like the characters are all siled apart from some end credit scenes Now Kevin feige did say that they weren't going to have the phases culminate in Avengers movies because they were doing so many individual team up films but are they a few movies have had team-ups Spider-Man and Doctor Strange Thor and the Guardians very briefly and eventually like Carol Monica and Kamala are going to meet up but all these team-ups are very few and far between Lisa I want some more more phase four of the MCU when you compare it to some other franchises has had some incredible high points One Division Loki the two Spider-Man movies wakanda forever but MCU stories are starting to feel like they're not necessary to see what do you mean by that well look the reason the MCU movies always did so well is because well you felt like you had to see them to know the bigger story well like Captain Marvel right we needed to see that movie to know how the Avengers could defeat Thanos because of the tease at the end of infinity War but now without these big team up movies that feeling's kind of fizzled out it's hard to get hyped about Nine episodes of She-Hulk even when a few guest stars keep popping up well I've had uhloggers vodka and Yak milk never again I think that four needed to culminate in some kind of team-up film whether it's an Avengers film or not just some kind of event that would have brought different people together something to show us that it's all still connected some story that gave us the thrill of seeing heroes from Disney Plus on the big screen finally together I hear it beyond that scent you're just told us why nobody is on the team anymore oh dude there is still a massive roster of Heroes even if you remove the Thunderbolts in Young Avengers especially after phase four I mean in the eternals you introduced like 12 new Heroes then you have Shang Chi she-hawk War Machine Captain America Moon Knight Captain Marvel Photon sure no more you could even throw in Spider-Man and Doctor Strange though I think those characters work better when they're like loners who only show up for like a rare team up like after all Spider-Man is off Reinventing his life away from the other Heroes and strangers out in the Multiverse with CLIA setting up the Kang Dynasty but by far the character set up in phase four that I'm most excited for is Hercules played by Brett Goldstein in that post-credits scene we see Zeus promising to send Hercules to Earth to show the people of Earth that gods are still mightier than the superheroes do you understand me Hercules so imagine this was the premise for the team up movie Hercules comes to Earth picks a fight with some Heroes a lot of Heroes have to get together to beat him up and eventually they recruit him to fight whoever the real villain is of the movie and like I said this did not have to be like an Avengers movie it could have been like Captain America Civil War where all the characters are present and together but they're not necessarily part of a team-up movie they're just in service of like an individual character just just something you know some kind of gathering to tide us over until the Kang Dynasty I mean everything's going to be building up towards Secret Wars which is like this big multiversal crossover that's going to have different variants from different realities fighting each other but like that movie's already been delayed twice and in order for us to appreciate the big multiversal Crossover with different versions of Wolverine fighting different versions of Spider-Man we need a smaller crossover first something to connect all of these Heroes into a shared Universe help maybe the team up movie could end with the Avengers being a disorganized mess and basically saying nah we're never going to work together again I never inevitable however ever again or what about New Vision would he be on the team well white Vision does end Juan division with new memories and he leaves to go make sense of them now there are rumors this is going to lead into a show called Vision Quest which could set up the Young Avengers so in the Young Avengers comic the team formed after the main Avengers were disassembled Vision was dead then but an aspect of his programming reawakened this was part of a contingency plan to reform The Avengers if they ever split apart so the Young Avengers were all pulled from this algorithm they were young people with some kind of ties to the original team there's also rumors that Kamala Khan is going to set up the Young Avengers after the events of the Marvels but this could also happen in the Vision Quest series and of course young Avenger potential members include Kamala Khan Cassie Lane Kate Bishop Patriot may be Wicked in speed if they come back in the AG of the show and I I guess scar this is my son scar so I mean you can see how the Avengers being disassembled is very similar to the comics and will have similar results we'll have a team of dark Avengers it's a Thunderbolts a Young Avengers and a new Avengers team eventually being formed the problem is I just don't think the MCU has done a good job of setting up this disassembled team it took four years to get confirmation that there was no longer an Avengers team Winola would have really taken was like one line at the end of the end game Epilogue with somebody being like well yeah there's no one left to form the Avengers or I can't do it or something like that instead they just kind of left us hanging so let's bring all this back around to secret Invasion Fury was there for the Avengers when they needed him in Age of Ultron when the team was broken he showed up to give them a pep talk well this is good times boss but I was kind of hoping when I saw you you'd have more than that I do I have you and the hero is rewarded his trust and Guidance with infighting breaking up and ultimate failure Fury put all of his faith into Heroes and an Infinity War they let him down everybody keeps saying Fury isn't the same since the blip and this is why he put all his chips on the heroes and they failed which means means that they failed the world and the universe and now they've abandoned Fury the heroes have let Fury go off and defend the Earth alone with sword Carol isn't doing anything to help the Scrolls in fact the Scrolls resentment toward her was foreshadowed all the way back in 2019 Spider-Man far from home when Talos disguised as Nick Fury says Captain Marvel don't invoke her name every avenger that Fury has recruited has died or retired and at this point he's maybe thinking that he should have been the one who got to retire maybe the Avengers should have repaid their death to Fury I think that what we're really seeing in this series is that Fury no longer trusts the Avengers and he's grappling with that loss of Faith so in that respect it does work that we don't have a formal Avengers team it also means we don't have superheroes flying into every situation to save the day which makes for better storytelling but I still think we needed some kind of universe uniting Team Up movie even if it was just characters temporarily sharing the same movie who ultimately went their separate ways maybe maybe I'm just excited for a new Avengers movie I'm used to waiting three years in between Avengers films but now it's it'll have been six years between Kang Dynasty and end game that is a really long way and frankly I don't know if the MCU can hold out that long and just a reminder everyone to take the hassle out of eating healthy give factor a try had to factor75.com and use my promo code screen Crush 50 to get 50 off your first Factor box but I want to hear from all of you about secret Invasion what did you think of the episode let me know your thoughts down in the comments below or at me on Twitter and if it's your first time here welcome to the Channel Please Subscribe smash that Bell for alerts for screen Crush I'm ryanairy [Music] thank you [Music]

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Length: 19min 36sec (1176 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 13 2023