RTX 3050... Don't get fooled by the marketing...

all right guys if you can't tell by your inboxes it is obviously launch day for the rtx 3050 a graphics card that one was announced uh initially i was um kind of excited because it means more affordable options but if you took a look at way things were going with amd's uh 6500 xt then obviously we were approaching this one with a little bit of uh optimism and skepticism at the same time but we have all the data here let's talk about it nzxt's build is a quick and easy way to get a new gaming computer and right now they're proud to announce expansion and availability to australia the netherlands france and italy build a gaming pc on your budget using the built-in configurator and see exactly how your favorite games will perform want to build your own pc but still have the nzxt peace of mind warranty then the new bld build it yourself kit has what you want buy it and build it yourself and nzxt has you covered to get started configuring or building your next gaming pc visit the build link in the description below so this is gonna be one of those silly videos where i'm just kind of walking around acting like an idiot like i do every single day i'm just gonna try and get this video done and get it out the door so that we can move on um oh also too if you guys haven't really noticed by now you haven't heard much about the 30 90 ti that's because um well my anonymous sources have it that it is being postponed until either february maybe even march so we're not going to be seeing 3090 ti in january which is fine we shouldn't be seeing it period moving on um the 3050. it's an interesting card in that it's the first time nvidia has put rtx on a 50 series graphics card now this is only the second generation of rt or ray tracing and we had it on the 2016 and up on the touring edition of graphics cards or you know the 20 series cards and now on ampere we have seen it take a year and a half since they launched it but now they have rtx on a 50 series card which makes it interesting when it comes to comparing it because of the fact if you recall with 20 series cards they had their rtx lineup and a gtx lineup and it looks like this time around they have completely kind of done away with the gtx naming and they've just created an entire stack of nothing but rt cards and the entry level card being this right here the rtx 3050. now the 20 series cards they started like i said 2016 up and then we had the 1650 1650 super 1660 16 60 super and the 1660 ti those five cards before it was five right 50 super 60 superintendent yeah those five cards before we ever even those five cards before we ever even got to the rtx cards so when it comes to comparing this one is kind of interesting um we'll talk about specs we'll talk about the comparing methodology and then whether or not you guys should even buy it after you take a look at our benchmarks so spec wise they're comparing it to a 1650 and this is where i'm gonna start to kind of get a little bit cynical in this video because of the fact that that is that's a fast one because comparing a 1650 to a 30 50 is not a fair comparison at all it's it's gonna make things look a lot better on paper than they actually are because like i said there are four cards between four cards between the 1650 and the 2060 on 20 series so now in video this time around wants to say oh yeah well this is a 50 series cards we're going to compare it to the 1650 series cards and no you can't do that because realistically in terms of the tier hierarchy it'd really be more like a 1660 super slash ti where it would line up at being just under the 60 series card so because we have less cards in the product stack this time it's almost like they're stacking the deck and making it looking better than it actually is by trying to have you believe you should be comparing it to a 1650 but spec wise since they're doing that anyway graphics processing clusters two for both 2560 cuda cores on the 3050 versus 896 on the 1650. so obviously it's a much higher card rate tracing aside dlss aside just raw performance compared to a 1650 it's gonna be much better at 1080p gaming much higher fps probably better texture resolution um across the board higher resolution on your gaming and high resolution higher settings on your gaming which means you're going to get a better gaming experience than a 1650 as it should it's the latest generation of graphics card and the latest generation of core design memory though it's got twice as much it's got eight gigabytes of gddr6 versus four gigabytes of gddr5 found on the 1650. now core clock the black edition that we have right here from evga the black which is kind of like their entry level card they only kind of go up from there has a boost clock of 1777 versus a boost clock of uh 1665 found on the 1650 clock for clock generation generation is not necessarily directly comparable these are just specs that they're throwing out there to try and give you an a and b comparison it's going to look way better on paper than i than it really should be because of the fact that like i said they're much farther spread tier of card then they're they're making it look here and this is where i get a little upset with nvidia and their marketing and that they're really like selling you snake oil i find it to be a really dirty practice um anyway moving on eight gigabytes is obviously better than the four gigabytes found in the 1650 and there's a lot of arguments whether or not four or eight is better et cetera et cetera um yeah eight gigabytes definitely gonna be better than four when it comes to texture resolutions and high-res texture packs and such eight gigs should be the minimum this time around now we cut now when we talk about our testing methodology here i already explained to you the product stack differences you cannot compare a 1650 to a 3050 simply because of the price alone the 1650 had an debut msrp price which was available at the time because we didn't have nearly as much crap going on uh then as we do today of 160 they would have you believe that we as third-party independent reviewers should compare generation to generation a 160 graphics card versus a 250 graphics card and to that i say that is completely that is not the way we do this we compare price point to price point you can call it whatever you want and you can manipulate the potential buyer and consumer by having you believe naming and number wise the way something compares to each other but at the end of the day the only comparison that should make things an equal playing ground is price the second half about that price discussion that sucks is obviously the only people that are going to get this for 249 msrp are going to be the very first people that are able to buy it and then obviously from there there's going to be marking up and scalping and that's if the retailers themselves don't take it take advantage of marking it up and scalping so with that i decided to run a couple of tests and see where it was initially comparing and landing closest to score wise and that actually ended up being a 1660 not a super not a ti not a 50 not a 50 super but a 1660. the msrp of no both are within a couple of dollars of each other and performance was there as well so we compared it to a 1660 and here's how it looks [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] when you compare the 3050 to the more closely price matched 1660 you can see it's still a benefit i it's just one of those things where i'm disappointed in nvidia trying to say that this card 50 series rtx card first of its kind should be compared to a 50 series gtx rollover stop gap card during the first generation rtx cards being out with four cards in between it in terms of actual you know tier lineup is disingenuous and the pro the reality is the gap looks much bigger by doing that which makes the 30 50 seem like that much better of a card i feel like that's unnecessary to pull that kind of marketing trickery when it's already outperforming it as it should it's a later gen architecture it's got more cuda car cores it's got plenty of memory i mean everything about this card is actually decent it's what a lot of us had hoped the amd card was going to be and ended up not being that's because the amd 6500 xt was just a basically a a rebranded uh laptop type gpu just stuck onto a card essentially that was never really intended and i think it was one of those like well let's just release garbage people will buy it anyway well i guess they were right because everyone did buy it and they were being scalped this card is actually decent you get the effects that you would expect if you're running 1080p and you don't run super high-end settings and you turn on ray tracing it's playable you can it's not exactly the smoothest experience i still personally would not recommend recommend an entry-level ray tracing card for the purposes of ray tracing it is a nice to have feature in eye candy if one a game can implement it efficiently enough without it completely tanking your performance and two you just maybe are wanting screenshots or whatever of pretty art ray tracing screenshot so you can turn it on take an amazing screenshot whether it be an open world you know when you have nice uh ambient occlusion and you've got ray trace lighting and shadows and reflections then it will look amazing turn it off after a screenshot go back to playing with normal rasterization the other thing is you do get dlss on with this which dlss and dldss has just shown that that is an amazing future we have to look forward to just continuing to get better and better when it comes to upscaling our dynamic upscaling as well as having just playable frame rates with difficult games without having to spend a fortune theoretically if you can get an msrp on a graphics card i mean first generation dlss was an absolute disaster 2.0 and dldss is just showing that the maturity and the deep learning is working and it's a very very nice to have feature it's still one of the ultimate reasons why anyone would consider an nvidia card as far as i'm concerned the ray tracing fine that i mean i don't even have ray tracing turned on in the games that i play and i have a 30 90. that's because i just depending on the title that you're playing most of the time you don't even notice it if you're passing by things super quickly if you stop and really pixel peep then yes you can absolutely see the the ray tracing and the way it looks and how amazing it is but if you're one of those people that's highly focused on the game and the story and you're not stopping to literally look at reflections then you're not going gonna really notice it and the performance hit just isn't there like for instance phil loves the game control he plays through it over and over and over because he just loves the way it looks and he plays it with ray tracing on with the performance hit because it's the entire reason why he plays the game to this day we still believe control is nothing more than a playable benchmark but i digress if ray tracing is what you're after it shouldn't be a 30 50. the problem is you can't necessarily easily go out and buy anything higher tier to give you better ray tracing performance you can get decent ray tracing performance on amd cards but they're the same situation available in a lot of stores that i've looked at but at a pretty exorbitant markup the 30 50 provides what it is that we were hoping a card that is bringing 1080p and you'll notice we only tested 1080p in these titles because of the fact that at its price point and its entry point i once you turn it up to 1440 you start dropping below that 60fps uh in many of the modern titles which means that you just at that point are starting to reduce your settings and then you're not going to turn retracing on any way if you have to reduce settings because you're going to take a performance hit that's going to be such a stuttery mess below 60 it nullifies the feature being there if you can't even use it the feature being there and it being something that you're paying for that's gonna be up to you to determine whether or not it's there i can't say that nvidia should have necessarily launched a gtx series ampere type architecture with ray tracing stripped out i don't even know if you could have dlss and ray tracing not on the same card i'm not sure if that's possible i would have if it's like they could have not put the rt cores in there in some way and ran the tensor cores for dlss and just done away with ray tracing and dropped the price 50 bucks 30 bucks 50 bucks that's in a perfect world if you just like toggle dip switches to say what features you want that would make sense but i don't know how the architecture works at a deep dive so i can't tell you that's even possible but it's a lot better than amd's card obviously it's 50 bucks more msrp than the 6500 xt but it's highly capable and definitely able to game and the experience on the 3050 is only going to go up from here because the black edition card from evga which is the card i believe everyone was sent is the starting point from here custom boost clocks that go even higher custom cooling overclocked cards they all are going to obviously increase your experience when it comes to gaming i recommend this card at 1080p if you can get it for close to msrp once it starts getting marked up for 500 bucks which is what we're seeing the 1600 series cards still go for then obviously at that point the the performance per dollar is extremely skewed in upside down and it just continues the nasty inflation and scalping and just complete messed up economy that we have right now regarding electronics which then at that point makes it even more difficult to recommend but it's going to be in the same scale versus cards around it everything's going to just slide up in price as an entire tide it's all going to go up together if i sound a little jaded or cynical it's because yes i were fatigued about this just as much as you guys but it's here it exists how many available i have no idea only one brand was even seating for availability and evga synthesis nvidia the nvidia dispersed them so good luck trying to find them thanks for watching guys and you guys are sick of these type of reviews but feel like we still owe it to you to bring in the information that we find when we take a look at these cards because a lot of you trust us for this type of information watch other people's reviews try and get a big collective opinion of whether or not it's even worth trying to get this card don't just listen to one reviewer listen to as many as you can and formulate your own opinion thanks for watching guys and we'll see you in the next one

Channel: JayzTwoCents

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Keywords: nvidia, rtx, rtx 3050, rtx 2060, rtx 3060

Id: ZlZRtP7ZoVs

Length: 16min 13sec (973 seconds)

Published: Wed Jan 26 2022