<i> ( BAND PLAYING )
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )</i> >> Stephen: WE'RE HERE WITH
FRIEND OF THE SHOW, AUTHOR RONAN FARROW, AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK
"CATCH AND KILL." RONAN, WHILE YOU WERE REPORTING
ON WEINSTEIN, YOU WERE PARANOID THAT YOU WERE BEING FOLLOWED. AND IT TURNED OUT YOU WERE BEING
FOLLOWED. HOW DID YOU FIND OUT YOU WERE
BEING FOLLOWED? DID THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU
WERE BEING FOLLOWED? >> SO --
>> Stephen: BECAUSE SOMETIMES, AS A PRESSURE CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE
WANT YOU TO-- >> TO INTIMIDATE. I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT
OF BOTH GOING ON. I WAS LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER A
LOT. I'M SEEING THE SAME GUYS AROUND,
I'M SEEING THE SAME CARS AROUND MY PLACE. I WAS SO SLEEP DEPRIVED AT THIS
POINT-- EVERY TIME I'M ON YOUR SHOW I'M SLEEP DEPRIVED. I'M MUCH MORE CHARMING,
APPARENTLY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING
CRAZY, BUT ULTIMATELY I WAS ABLE TO REVERSE ENGINEER THESE
STRANGE CALLS I HAD BEEN GETTING, CALL ONE OF THESE
LACKEYS WHO WAS USING THE COVER STORY TO COME AFTER ME. >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU MEAN
STRANGE CALLS? >> THERE WERE OUTRIGHT
THREATENING CALLS, BREATHER CALLS THAT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE,
STRANGE TEXTS AND STUFF. THERE'S A DISCUSSION IN THE BOOK
ABOUT WHICH OF THOSE-- ( BREATHING HEAVY." >> Stephen: LIKE THAT. >> IF ONLY IT WERE YOU, STEPHEN. IT SEEMS SO OVER THE TOP. BUT THIS IS A PLOT THAT ENDS UP
BEING-- AND I HAVE THE PAPER TRAIL ON THIS, TOO-- LITERALLY
ONE RUSSIAN, ONE UKRAINIAN SPY, AT ONE POINT TRACKING MY G.P.S. PHONE LOCATION TO TRACE ME TO
THE "NEW YORKER." AND THEY'RE GETTING PIN DROPS OF
WHERE I AM. IN THE ONE SENSE --
>> Stephen: HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE DOING THIS? >> I ONLY FOUND OUT LATER. AND THERE'S A SECRET SOURCE THAT
CALLS ME AND SAYS-- UNDER THE CODE NAME "AXIOM" AT FIRST AND
SAYS, "I'M IN SURVEILLANCE. WALK AGAINST TRAFFIC FOR SEVERAL
BLOCKS. GO TO ONE RESTAURANT. GO TO ANOTHER RESTAURANT." AND THEN PROCEEDS TO SHOW ME ALL
THESE PHOTOS FROM SURVAILING ME. AND THAT ENDS UP BEING A DEEP
RABBIT HOLE OF INFILTRATING THIS ESPIONAGE OPERATION. >> Stephen: DID YOU LOOK GOOD
IN THE PHOTOS. >> I LOOKED EXCELLENT IN THE
PHOTOS. ON THE ONE HAND, THERE ARE SOME
SILLY ASPECTS TO THIS. THESE GUYS WERE TWEEDLE DEE
TWEEDLE DUM. THEY FOLLOWED THE WRONG GUY FOR
THREE DAYS JUST BECAUSE HE WAS BLOND. >> Stephen: WHY DID THEY
FOLLOW THE WRONG GUY AROUND. >> BECAUSE HE LOOKED LIKE ME. >> Stephen: WAS IT FRANK
SINATRA. >> SURE THEY FOLLOWED THE GHOST
OF FRANK SINATRA. THAT WAS GOOD. >> Stephen: WHAT WAS THE MOST
POSITIVE THING TO COME OUT OF THIS BOOK, DO YOU THINK. >> AS MUCH AS THIS IS A STORY
ABOUT A LOT OF DARK THINGS AND CRIMES AND COVER-UPS AND THESE
SYSTEMS OF MUTUAL PROTECTION OF POWERFUL PEOPLE, IT'S A STORY OF
BRAVE WHISTLEBLOWERS WHO CAME FORWARD. SOURCE AFTER SOUR STOOD UP FROM
THE INSIDE OF THE OPERATION AND SAID, "I'M DEVELOPING A
CONSCIENCE ABOUT THIS. THIS SHOULD STOP. WE SHOULD HAVE THE FREE PRESS IN
THIS COUNTRY. REPORTERS SHOULDN'T BE
THREATENED." I DON'T SEE ANY STYNES--<i>
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )</i> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KEEP
SEEING THAT. I THINK WHISTLEBLOWERS WILL KEEP
COMING. I I THINK REPORTERS WOAN STOP
AND JUST THE WAY FELLOW REPORTERS HAVE RALLIED AROUND
THIS BOOK IS VERY MOVING TO ME AND GIVING ME HOPE THE FREE
PRESS IS ALIVE AND WELL. >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND IN
THE ACTUAL-- WHEN YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS, IN ONE OF THE
DRAFTZ OF THIS YOU PROPOSED TO YOUR FIANCE, JON LOVETT. HOW DID THAT COME OUT? >> FRIEND OF THIS PROGRAM. >> Stephen: FRIEND OF THE
SHOW, EXACTLY. >> I PROPOSED IN THE DO,IEST
WAY. I LEFT THE PROPOSAL IN THE DRAFT
CHANGES DRAFT DOCUMENT. >> Stephen: WAS HE HELPING
EDIT IT AT THE TIME? >> I WANTED TO GET HIS NOTES BUT
HE'S REALLY BUSY, I SAID, "PLEASE READ IT-- WINK, WINK--
THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL IN THERE." AND HE PROCEEDED TO DO WHAT YOU
DID, INDEXED HIS NAME, PROPOSE "F," AND MISSES THE PROPOSAL. HE SKIM READ IT. >> Stephen: WHAT WAS THE
PROPOSAL? CAN YOU REVEAL WHAT IT SAID? >> YOU CAN READ IT IN THE BOOK. IT'S THERE. >> Stephen: IS MY NAME ON THE
PAGE? >> THE PROPOSAL WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE FOR YOU. EXPUMENTLY HE DID SAY YES, BUT
IT DID TAKE NUDGING HIM VERY HARD TO READ MORE THAN JUST THE
LINES WITH HIS NAME. >> Stephen: RONAN, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU, STEPHEN. >> Stephen: THE BOOK IS "CATCH
AND KILL." IT'S AVAILABLE NOW. RONAN FARROW, EVERYBODY. WE'LL BE BACK WITH COMEDIAN
ANDREA SAVAGE.
