Retro Pie - N64 on the new $16 Raspberry Pi Zero2W?

wi-fi sheep would like to say a huge thank you to all of you that kindly support us help us continue to bring new videos like this join patreon.com forward slash wi-fi sheep from just one dollar a month [Music] hello everyone how you doing and welcome back to yet another wi-fi sheep tech video with me tom and we're continuing our look at the brand new raspberry pi zero 2w now to bring you up to speed the 2w is a brand new small compact raspberry pi released by the pie foundation roughly four days ago now in the dying embers of october 2021 today is the second of november so we're about four days in now i've already done a initial news video i've done a full review video of the product but one of the things that came out of that video was could this run with retropie now i'm going to be totally honest with you i think the use case for this device is most likely going to be handheld arcade and retro console emulation and for that point you do need a small board most people that have been building sort of game boy clone type things have been using the original raspberry zero which was fine but you do hit an upper limit of what it can run which is roughly the kind of 16-bit snes era stuff anything more of that such as playstation or it's particularly n64 the board struggles massively but if you remember the video last time i tried putting the raspberry pi 4 version but i happened to have on sd card into the new pi zero and it booted and then crashed quite spectacularly now that wasn't a fair test because it wasn't even the correct version so to therefore let's revisit i'm going to flash a new version of retropie 1 specifically for the recipe 2 and 3 and i'm going to use it from the official raspberry pi image burner that you can get for windows mac and linux however interestingly the build dates for the current version of retropie are from mid last year so how well do these work well that's what we're going to find out today however before we continue do you have a need 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and just on another factor in relation to copyright we are if we get the emulator running going to have a look at some of these games actually running on the raspberry zero now these games are intellectual property and they are copyrighted but under us law there is this uh very vague fair use claim that you can make for using small amounts of content in relation to an expanded work or video now fair use doesn't apply here in the united kingdom but under english law we do have something very similar which allows you to use small amounts of sampled copywriting material within what we call a derivative work in order to for purposes of let's say a review or education or a technical demonstration which basically we're actually all three of those things so as long as you're not basically completely ripping something off or sharing illegally media we should be covered in all bases both here in the uk and also in the united states where i believe this video actually gets hosted on the youtube server so with that bit cleared up let's get into it and see if we can get retropie running on the brand new recipe 0w so let's see how well or if at all this is going to boot up okay so we've got a rainbow boot screen and there's the splash screen so we've got to the front kernel in the splash screen and that to me looks like the kernel panic yeah that ain't looking good that's kind of what similar to what we saw before okay so yeah this doesn't seem to work which is unfortunate so yeah is that broken is it properly broken yeah it's not looking good it shouldn't be doing that anyway you shouldn't be seeing this um hex on the screen so yeah it looks like it has kernel panicked so what we're going to do then is we'll just power off that may have corrupted the sd card we may need to reflash again but let's just see so it doesn't work currently on the new recipe 2 sorry recipe 0-2 hardware what if we tried a raspberry 3 and of course i'm sure if you like me even collecting these pie boards you've now got lots of surface boards lying around so this is the 1.2 version of the freezer it's the one i have the metal uh revised uh heatsink process and i put an additional heat thing on top on this board so let's swap some parts over okay let's power back on and let's see if this is any better okay yes that is looking a bit better so it first of all wants to try and detect a a gamepad or a game controller i haven't got one installed so let's just hit f4 so we haven't broken the card we just know it's not at the moment compatible and again i said in the introduction the retropie images are actually older from last year now they've not been updated and obviously things have changed so clearly retropie at the moment is not straight compatible with the brand new raspberry pi 2w however if we were to connect this to the internet i wonder if we could actually do a sudo update and update the distro and then see if we could put it back into the new pi zero hmm let's try that so in order to attempt to update the os bearing in mind that retropie uses the raspbian raspberry pi os as its base so it should be able to be updated quite easily but to do that we're going to need an internet connection i could use wi-fi on these but i haven't configured it so i'm actually just going to plug an ethernet lead and get that around okay so ethernet lead is in and now making sure we're at the terminal screen we can ask for an update so let's try sudo apt update and it says do we want to make changes we say yes and you can see it's looking at the raspbian.rushby.org repository in order to get hold of the required files so this is a stock raspbian writes with ios underneath so it should be possible to manually update it like this so once we've done that we can say sudo at full upgrade and again we'll say yes there's quite a lot to be upgraded this might take a little while okay so this is now the unpacking and installing of the update so the first part was the download and now we can see we've progressed at zero percent we're now going to attempt to update and install new packages this will take some time so what we'll do is we're going to do a jump cut and we'll come back when this is finished and for the miracle of modern editing you've not had to sit through that that process took over an hour to do but now we're updated uh final thing i think we need to do is we'll just do a clean up so we say sudo apt and then clean okay and we'll go pseudo reboot oops i've missed about that there we go so so far so good back to the uh splash screen so it hasn't broken it so far okay yeah that's got intel in this kernel so we're doing all right okay so hit f4 prompt so we can now try shutting this down so just make sure we take power off at the mains and let's unplug make sure to take the sd card out so welcome back to brand new writing pie zero two put the sd card now back into this don't need the network cable put our adapter back on for hdmi hdmi cable back in power back in and we're using a hub let's see what happens now if we attempt to do a new boot so far looking promising so we got that far before okay that's looking good there we are emulation stations loaded and there we go okay so what i've got is i've got one of these cheap clone snes usb controllers and i'm just going to plug that into the hub which you won't be able to see because it's off camera and hold down a usb gamepad there we go so now it wants you to um set up the gamepad so d-pad up down left right start select and there we go we're in of course we haven't actually got any games loaded so so i'm going to do is put a few roms onto this so we can test a few things out okay so i've added a couple of roms to the system now i had an issue i was trying to use the usb hub and it kept detecting a usb fault don't know what the issue is so i ended up having to attach network cable to the end i could have configured the wi-fi but i decided just to connect to the ethernet on the end of this hub and i then used from a mac i uploaded the roms to retropie let's just start with nintendo entertainment system and we should have supermarkets free and i don't expect this to have any real problems [Music] i'm terrible at playing it but yeah that seems absolutely fine so [Music] we can return now then let's go through to nintendo 64. this is where normally the raspberry pi zero would start falling down um let's see how it is if we try super mario 64. now the trick will be what is the frame rate like [Music] [Music] okay uh it's not bad it's a little jerky but certainly playable if you're playing this on a small screen well i can now see that in a handheld like one of those sort of uh hybrid pie game boy type things and of course we're not saying that every game is going to work properly because n64 emulation is difficult to say the least but it's possibly a little bit slow but yeah that's not bad and you could probably get a little bit more performance out of this if you needed it let's go back to venue so let's just try f1 world grand prix i've used this on the channel before it's a personal favorite and it's one of those overlooked games on the system that press the right button that uh it's formula one it's not that popular in north america so it's very much popular in europe and japan uh but it is one of those games that goes very cheap but i think it's visually probably one of the better on the n64 so we'll see i don't know what that means something to do with the emulator but mostly seems to be running okay so oh no there we go there's a little bit of glitching again this could be the emulator rather than the pie itself oh yeah um slightly struggling that okay something has not gone right there yeah i can tell you now that's not right you shouldn't have all that sort of black render boxing and okay um so what we can do is we pop back out the game and if we relaunch it and then we've got a configuration here so we can select uh let's select emulator for rom let's try that again sometimes just switching the rom to a different setting can be enough that's looking better he said the cars just disappeared it's struggling a bit isn't it again i'm sensing this a slight frame drop i mean this game was always extremely highly demanding of the n64 it does look better possible if you can push it in high res mode which this isn't it um can actually crisp up quite nicely but n64 does look a little bit better when you haven't got the fog of either an ntsc or pal original system we did a video about this actually using this game comparing it to a composite pal out and uh the time free emulator version oh we're frozen no we're back i have played this game very successfully on retropie before but it is one that said one of the more demanding games okay it's not as good as the uh modern day codemasters f1 license stuff but for the time this game was 1997 98 there we go okay i can tell you now that that has glitched oh that can tell that yeah so not quite the right settings here because you should be seeing wheels and yeah so it's not layering all the layers on correctly that should be drivers view you see this sort of the aerial sticking out the top of the car so we're not rendering correctly fine there so yeah there's a few things that we need to find it should be possible to get this game to run okay there we go we've just done a map of albert park australia so yeah i could probably to be honest with you sort of tweak this a bit and we probably get slightly better results but it's not bad at all and i think it would be acceptable if you're putting this into a handheld type system well i hope that gets you up to speed and you can have some fun now with retropie on your brand new raspberry pi zero w hardware i just want to say i have really enjoyed interacting with people that have commented on the previous two videos a lot of you really excited about the new product and i know many of you have now gone out and bought brand new buy zero w's and are now thinking what am i going to do with them so i logically think most of them are going to end up being used for retropie hence why i decided to make this video if you haven't done so already you can check me out on twitter it's at wi-fi sheet on twitter and please to like and subscribe to us right here on the channel it really does help me out a lot thank you so much for your company and i hope to see you real soon until next time bye for now [Music] [Music] you

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Length: 21min 39sec (1299 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 02 2021