Ray Kurzweil + Disruptive Technologies and Dangerous Ideas

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Ray's wig gets more hilarious looking by the day.

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His predictions have an air of 'magic' in them. I can not deny that when I first read his predictions about the 'singularity' my first thought was "what the fuck! This Guy is a kook!" However, future advancements in technology should not be based on the progress of the past. What we have now was considered impossible only decades before. It is healthy to be skeptical but keep an open eye on future developments

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I wish...

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good morning good afternoon good evening wherever you are the world we have folks here from 50 countries joining my dear friend Ray Kurzweil my co-founder of singularity University and myself for 90 minutes of fun conversation pal that was great I'm going to talk about sort of the next I'd like to talk about the timeframe of the next 25 years that countdown and the singularity all the exponential technologies we have amazing questions that you've that you've given us let me just 2025 does not get us for the same well I get just close funny 8 it gets us close yeah it's close I mean believe me at 25 I'm gonna be like just it's gonna be magic let me welcome the abundance digital community welcome to my community members an honor and a pleasure to have you here with me welcome to the Sangha singularity University community and to futurism all of you who are futures and fans like I am welcome and a pleasure to have you guys here so let me tell you the format introduce myself then properly introduced rayker as well so the format is right and I are gonna chat for about 30 minutes I have you know even though I get to see you all the time I have a lot of questions to ask you that I'd like to ask for my community members then we'll actually go into a Q&A with you and you know ask us and and we'll do our best to answer your hardest questions I like to think about Dangerous Ideas because of the of the magnitude of what we're playing with so very quickly my background is a serial entrepreneur of now 19 companies focused in space and longevity and Grand Challenges the author of to New York Times bestsellers abundance the futures been you think the name came from Ray and I know so bold how to go big create wealth and impact the world very proud to be the co-founder of singularity University the executive chairman of the XPrize foundation and amazing companies like human longevity cellularity Planetary Resources and I love love love and part of my massively transformative purpose is helping entrepreneurs like you really figure out how to go big and and impact the world so we'll be talking more about those things let me do a proper introduction of Rey who's got one of the most awesome BIOS that that I know I actually have this probably memorized pal since we've had a chance to do so many gigs together but let me just take a second and read it so Ray Kurzweil is one of the world's leading inventors thinkers and futurists he was he has a 30-year track record of accurate predictions if you go to if you go to Wikipedia I think the prediction your prediction rate is like 86 percent 87 percent 86 percent of 147 predictions I made in the 1990s about 2009 were correct yeah amazing amazing you've been called the relentless genius by The Wall Street Journal the ultimate thinking machine by Forbes you were selected one of the top entrepreneurs by inc magazine described as the rightful heir to Thomas Edison not too shabby PBS selected you as when the 16 revolutionaries who made America ray was the principal inventor of the first ccd flatbed scanner the first omni font optical character recognition the first print to speech reading machine for the blind the first text-to-speech synthesizer there's a pattern here there's the first music synthesizer capable of recreating the grand piano and other orchestral instruments and the first commercially marketed large vocabulary speech recognition among your many honors you've received the Grammy Award for outstanding achievements in music technology you're the recipient of the National Medal of Technology inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame you hold 21 honorary doctorates that's not too shabby and honored been honored by three u.s. presidents you've written five national bestsellers including New York Times bestsellers the singularity is near which I loved and became the basis really for us collaborating in launching a singularity University we're here you're also written how to create a mind we're here at Google headquarters recording this this is your you actually got a day job you're fine agent I do this my first job it's going pretty well yeah it's going pretty good and you are your director of engineering here at Google and you hit up a team actually it's been an exponentially growing team developing machine intelligence and natural language processing understanding you're on my board the XPrize foundation and most importantly for me you're the co-founder and Chancellor of singularity University that's been great yeah and a member of the abundance 360 team and you will be in abundance 360 this coming January we had a lot of fun looking forward to that you know talk about the in the collision of artificial general intelligence nanotechnology and brain computer interface I mean yeah I think the word general is not needed okay that was an inherent criticism by people that felt at AI was not actually working on AI but I actually think we'll get to general intelligence by mastering all these narrow fields and the narrow skills are getting broader and broader until there really won't be a difference between artificial and natural intelligence but it's not an alien invasion from AI from Mars we're gonna we're gonna build it ourselves we're gonna make ourselves smarter by merging with them so we'll talk about that a lot of questions about when we're going to connect our neocortex to the cloud also some questions about is there alien life out there I know you and I have a debate about that so we might we might talk about that a little downstream you know one of the things I've been looking at is that the rate of accelerating change is actually accelerating in many ways and they're interesting factors driving that and what do you think about that yeah well I mean the the law of accelerating returns is that the price performance and capacity of information technology grows exponentially not linearly that sounds simple sure this audience is aware the difference between linear and exponential growth but it's it's quite profound that's behind disruption that we're seeing and people think linearly and the the critics who are diminishing of this of these viewpoints just think it's obvious things will be linear seven years through the general project we did one percent just so was obvious it was gonna take seven hundred years to sequence a human genome you're right but in fact it continued doubling every year was finished seven years later that's continued since the end of the genome project you're involved I'm Michael Michael I we're sequencing a genome now for a thousand bucks in in half a day yeah so that's actually a million fold improvements since the one we finished in 2003 which costs a billion dollars yeah and every other aspect is growing exponentially but the the rate of exponential growth the exponent has increased slowly took us three years to double the price performance of computation 1900 two years in 1950 12 months in 2007 11 months so there's a slow second exponent but one level of exponential growth is is good enough that exponential growth is leading to an increase in the paradigm shift rate yeah let's talk about paradigm shift rate because it's not just the acceleration of tech especially for entrepreneurs it's a new business models yeah and it's the convergence of technologies that make things interesting you know a hundreds of years ago your grandparents lived the same lives you did and you expected correctly that your grandchildren would do the same that began to be disrupted in around 1800 starting in the textile industry in England when all these machines came along business models were uprooted from the technology this guild of Weaver's had passed down this business model of having a family business of weaving cloth was suddenly disrupted and it led to a perception oh my goodness all employments gonna go away which in fact it did but we invented new jobs how many jobs circa 1900 exist today so we haven't eliminated all human employment several times and yet we nonetheless have actually more people as a percentage of the population working today than ever before jobs pay 11 times as much in constant dollars per hour than they did a century ago so we can talk more about employment but yes business models are based on the current technology that are all technology-based and it's a technology change it's a business models change so I'm thinking about the acceleration that we're get about to go from we have about 3.8 billion people connect on the planet today and that will be within the next decade with with loon with SpaceX with one of those 2 billion just a couple years 1.8 billion in 2010 3.8 now and we will probably hit 8 billion connected people and so but these 4 billion new minds are not coming online like you and I did at 90 Center bought at AOL they're coming online with a gigabit and so I think one of the things that's going to accelerate speed of acceleration is more brains using more tech yeah more brains and more powerful tools and more access to information so this gal who buys a smartphone for 75 dollars in Africa has access to all of human knowledge and extremely powerful information tools which by the way it counts as zero economic activity because that's all free the economy economics are broken today aren't yeah so I mean I had an on stage dialogue with Christine Lagarde head of the International Monetary Fund at their annual meeting and she said yes it's amazing what you can do with with digital technology but how can we don't see any gains in productivity and I said that's because you put it in the numerator and the denominator so that's 75-dollar smartphone it's 75 dollars of economic activity despite the fact it's literally a trillion dollars of computation communication circa 1965 a billion dollars circa 1980 and has millions of dollars of free information apps like an encyclopedia that's much better than the one I saved up for years as a teenager to buy and all that counts for nothing so we basically don't count it and then a point that you've made quite substantially she said okay that it's true the digital world is amazing can do all these fantastic things but you can't eat information technology you can't wear it you can't live in it so all that's gonna change as well energy buildings clothes printed out by 3d printers food and with from vertical agriculture these are all going to become information technologies and subject with a very profound deflation rate of information technology I may be where wonders why there is an inflation when there's all these inflationary pressures it's because information technology's deflationary yeah I can get the same computation communication genetic sequencing occurred a year ago today for half the price and that is going to provide these products that we have not associated with with digital technology like food energy buildings clothes I had I was I was advising and counseling a bunch of entrepreneurs who are just finishing college and in grad school they're trying to figure out what to go do next him where would I go where should you go start a company and I was I was making the point them and I'm wondering on your feedback here that were you know this notion that we're about to have four billion new consumers 4.2 billion new consumers coming online in the next decade and these 4.2 billion people around the world are not are coming on at you know 100 megabit gigabit connection speeds but they're all they're going to want everything we want but they're not gonna go to a bank branch they're not gonna go to insurance broker or they're not gonna go to a doctor or they're not going to go to a school so it's like can you build products and services that are completely D materialized for those 4 billion people yeah well I mean you've talked about this a lot and this is affecting every industry so it's not like you have to work in a traditionally high-tech industry to a take advantage of these digital revolutions or engage in disruptive change it's affecting everything all these traditional industries are becoming information technologies yeah and it's going to be worldwide I mean it already is four billion people's half the planet as it is pretty good that that can't continue to grow exponentially so by already slow but I mean we're already far more powerful just because our tools is so powerful and and that's gonna continue to accelerate I think it's a provocative question one of the things we have a lot of sort of I use the moniker Dangerous Ideas here and I am generally curious about this when we haven't had this conversation about how these exponential technologies are going to impact the nation-state because you've said this eloquently and I said it an agree you know we've got this continuous exponential growth that's almost unstoppable but we have these factors in society like government people people like waking up in the morning and and realizing the world hasn't changed from the night before we don't like change inherently as humans but religious institutions and governments tutions try and stabilize things so is the nation-state that as we know it today going to be around 20 30 40 years from now what are your thoughts sir well mechanical typewriters are still around yeah horse and buggies are still around it's not very used right so these institutions stick around but they change their role in our lives they already have the nation-state is not as profound as it was religion used to dominate direct every aspect of your life minutes a minute it's still important in some ways but it's much less important much less pervasive plays a much smaller role in most people's lives and the same is true for governments and we are fantastically interconnected already there's some issue with the pension funds in Spain and you know the economy's all over the world feel it but also react to it and absorb it nation states are not Islands anymore then but they used to must be that way much more so so we're already much more of a global community the generation growing up today really feel like world citizens much more than ever before because they're talking to people all over the world and it's not a novelty I mean they've grown up that way so that you know we we watch news on CNN and so on and it focuses on certain issues and yes they are important but the kind of disruptive change that both of us talked about is RIT's what is really important you know if you if you watch your news you get the idea that the world's going to hell getting worse none of which is true this is profound trends where things are getting better there was a poll taken of 24,000 people in 26 countries where they asked is poverty worldwide getting better or worse and 90% said incorrectly it's getting worse only 1% identified correctly that it's fallen by 50% or more and that's true in many different areas everything is getting better health education democratization I just got this I just got this text that here it is it's it says here famine deaths are down in four hundred thousand in nineteen seventy's 529 deaths from famine today it's three like this in every area yeah and people are really unaware of it I mean their algorithm for determining is the world getting better worse that's how often do they hear about bad news and a fascination with bad news is actually an evolutionary reason that we pay attention bad news when you're walking through the jungle was a good idea to pay attention to the bad news like a little rustling in the leaves it might be a predator the fact that your crops were one percent better than last year you didn't really have to pay attention to that so people so our ability to be aware of the bad news some tragedy halfway around the world is getting exponentially better it's actually a good thing but it leads to a misperception yeah I mean I I think about this a lot in fact in my in the abundance digital community and within su the five principles that I bring forward all the time is number one helping everybody have an abundance mindset right because as an entrepreneur if you think everything is getting worse we're never going to invest in the future you're going to make incorrect investments in the future and the challenge for most people I mean you and I are lucky I live at XPrize and at SU you here at Google and there's a there's a everything as possible abundance mindset that people have here and and did you have that growing up did you have that as an entrepreneur when did you get that because I think that's a really critical part of being a successful entrepreneur having that mindset abundance I think I did get that from my family they were profoundly optimistic and felt that any problems can be overcome my grandfather is particularly proud of having escaped with his whole family intact from Hitler and that was a pretty big challenge and that's continued that all these different problems could be solved and I began being an entrepreneur pretty early I met got involved when I owned computer projects as a teenager I was became the software engineer for Head Start 14 and started a business 18 which was successful not too shabby bouncing well my point is that yes I had an optimistic and entrepreneurial attitude and it did come from my family my great grandmother as I've mentioned for start at a school in 1868 that was an enterprise and it was socially disruptive they it was the first school to provide a higher education for girls went from K to 14th grade and it was very controversial like what is the point of educating girls to that degree and it really revolutionized women's education so disruption and the value of education and knowledge and optimism about the future really came from my family you know I found that when I did my last book bold when I had interviewed Jeff Bezos and Larry Page and Elon and Richard Branson one of the attributes they all share and I found it with almost all great world-changing entrepreneurs is a sense of optimism and abundance and I think that's partly why you know I think to be a great entrepreneur you need to have that positive mindset and not let the crisis news network get you down another thing I think that's important I'm curious if it impacted your life I know it was mine is having a community around you that is supportive in helping you because if you if you're an entrepreneur someplace and you have a crazy idea and I remind people that day before something is really a breakthrough it's a crazy idea if you have people shooting you down and telling that that's terrible it's really hard to break out and so I know I had a very supportive and when I was at MIT and and within my Oren organizations I had this very dreamy anything as possible community supporting me that allowed me to build to dream bigger did you have that well I agree that's important and I've gained that over time I started a little bit earlier than you did and there wasn't much of an entrepreneurial community I started my first major business which developed the reading machine and and speech synthesis and so on 1974 the total amount of high-tech venture capital in the United States was ten million dollars mostly in Boston right I mean yeah early on but ten billion I mean there's nothing that's a small deal today yeah that's not even a seed round so in fact I raised seed capital so I had some support that phrase did not exist but you know basically friends and family so that's part of being an entrepreneur is going on in a limb and risking not only your own well-being but the resources of your loved ones there wasn't much of an entrepreneurial community venture capital really didn't exist and these terms didn't exist and there was no entrepreneurial community and the whole idea of the spirit of entrepreneurship barely existed I remember 1968 MIT started a program called USB undergraduate special program was the first program at MIT to support entrepreneurship and I was one of the flagship members of that you basically your entire educational program that was starting a business so I started a business matching of high school students to colleges but that was the beginning of entrepreneurship and it was a radically new concept so it was I'd say by the 1980s it became a kind of established thing but it's not a concept that anybody recognized in some cities I'm curious about another one of the things that we talked about at singularity University allotted for the Graduate Studies the global solutions program and that I speak a lot about in abundance digital is having a massively transformative purpose you know something that drives you I'm just curious what you know you've had a number of them and you can have more than one as person boat how would you describe your your MTP ray and when did that originate for you well my father had a major heart attack when I was 15 he then died when I was 22 so I began to be interested in health I was concerned about him and then I was responding to the his loss but I also been recognized I probably inherited his disposition to heart disease and as it turned out type 2 diabetes so at that point I put it on my long-term to-do list to overcome heart disease and disease and death and really had that idea you slipped in there and death which I share which I sure was right well I mean death and the fear of death and how to deal with this profoundly antagonizing concept everything we believed in his animated human history yeah we've come up with theories and ideas about it rationalize all that tragic thing you know that's actually a liberation it's a good thing the purpose of life is to embrace death which is a rationalization because our first reaction to hearing someone died is that oh that we don't Joyce pending and maybe who it is but let's not go there but we've rationalized that tragedies that so I fact I had that idea really went earlier like a 10 that droit I articulated you know we don't really have to die and we should extend human life dramatically it was kind of a vague idea at 10 it became more formal when I realized that I had you know a genetic disposition to deal with it was on my long-term to-do list you know about a decade later mid 30s I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and and I said okay I need to bump up the priority of this and then I really delved into it I wrote my first health book and I'd say in the this is the 10% John and Diana yeah so which is a great great book by the way in the 80s and it really became a major theme overcoming death and and it's closely related to artificial intelligence in terms of enhancing who we are physically biologically and mentally intellectually creatively it's all kind of part of the same clause so if I may you know again what what the themes for me that drive a great entrepreneur is you know an abundance mindset having a great community having an MTP that emotionally drives you and obviously the connection to your dad's early passing and the what that brings up and you drove that emotion and having that drive a moonshot right and you've been involved in a number of moonshots you and I share a moonshot my earliest moon my earliest MTP with space that drove a lot of the space stuff I'm doing but then lately I've caught up with you in the last decade with a focus on an MTP of extending the healthy human lifespan and a few moon shots there let's talk about sort of the moon shops in extending the life span I'm assuming that you guys are all interested in adding 30 to 40 healthy years but what do you think is possible in it for most of us who would still have a version 1.0 biological body yeah oh you know actually can't actually know that they're a fact yeah well version 2 is still in not not beta yet what close especially here at the hallowed halls of Google I love the Time magazine Google cheats death and at the same time that that I was starting human longevity with craig Venter or which you're an advisor you and bill Maris and others were advising Larry and Sergey and the team here on creating Calico which is a Google and alphabet company yeah I mean calicos has been pretty quiet what little I know about it I really can't share but I'll call no one's listening but it is and exist one of many examples of increasing interest in bridge two which is reprogramming the outdated but software of life it's not a metaphor to say that biology is software our genes are strings of data but it evolved when conditions are very different there's not in the interests of humans to live more than in their 20s yeah at that point by evolution was not on your side because you're using up the food and resources of the tribe and it's better that you not live there's a small exception to that called the grandma hypothesis said it was beneficial to human development that there be some grandparents who could then share their wisdom and help the evolution of Technology and culture but a few grandmas would do if I could expand on this just I've always wondered and if you do the math you know hundreds of thousands of years ago when you went into puberty age 13 you'd have a baby I mean literally at that point then by time you were 26 you're now your babies having a baby you're a grandparent tell me or 26 you're probably dead I mean life expectancy was 19,000 right well the the fact is older you got before there was McDonald's and Whole Foods if you were taking food out of the mouths of your children or their grandchildren you never passed the genes along so the best you could do is give your bits back to the environment yeah an evolution did not favor long life and so for example our immune system which is great you wouldn't last long without it does not recognize cancers and thinks oh that's me because that's something that happens later on in life so biotechnology is to reprogram biology armor of life them that's what hli is trying to do but it's a it's a major movement it's the cutting edge of medicine it was enabled by Craig Venters little project that sequence the genome these technologies have been doubling in power over year that are not ten thousand times more powerful than when the general was sequence in 2003 and we're beginning now to get clinical impact we can now fix our broken heart from a heart attack we can grow organs in edit a genome and fix a genetic disease how many the United Eric's we're growing organs ultimately with the patient's own DNA installing them successfully in pigs which are actually pretty close to humans yeah coming to Yuma near you soon but we're gonna basically completely redefine the health medicine health of Medicine has not been an information technology up until just recently I mean yes we use computers to keep patient records actually we don't even do that very well but and to organize the information but fundamentally it's been hit or miss we just kind of finds certainly chemicals that that have a beneficial impact we're now actually reprogramming biology understanding designing interventions based on the reverse engineering of human biology and that's an exponential process and that is now entering clinical impacts right at the cutting edge like the ability to reprogram adult stem cells and rejuvenate a damaged heart which half of all heart attack survivors have if you're an American you've got to go via medical tourists it'll be improved soon and of course cellularity which is my latest company which United therapeutics which you're the board of his large investor and there's a whole movement towards you know making aging a disease and not inevitability so but that is the cutting edge of all of Medicine it's a trickle today of of actual clinical applications gonna be a flood over the next decade all the statistics on life insurance and health insurance and figuring out whether Social Security will be solvent in 20 years are based on models of the continued linear progress of health and medicine and I've talked to people who evolved in setting for example in life insurance rates and say oh well we take into consideration medical progress using a model that's come from the linear progression of healthcare medicine is if completely ignoring this transformation if you're looking for an industry to disrupt insurance is going to be disrupted so many ways to Friday it's not funny between blockchain autonomous cars extending human lifespan and getting accurate models of of health and medicine yeah I mean all of this stuff how old do you are you targeting to live right you have a target number yes I would like well first of all I'd let you mine if you tell me yours I'd like live to tomorrow yes we can we can help that's a start I feel that I will always feel that way so I took the people as hell I don't live past 90 or 95 that I talked to 95 girls and they in fact want to live to tomorrow and next year and much other goal then is to live past longevity escape velocity what does that mean so that means that we're adding more time than it's going by not just to infant life expectancy but to your remaining life expectancy now life expectancy is at any point in time as a statistical phenomena you could you could have a computed life expectancy based on today's technology of whatever 50 years still be hit by the proverbial bus tomorrow we're working on that too particularly here with self-driving cars but you know and I talked about threes actually for bridges too radical life extension each of which attacks the phenomena that they cut our lives short in my view it's not death that gives life meaning although I've had this debate with people it's what you can do with life be creative have relationships love people be funny create music and that's going to be in hand so when we talk about living hundreds of years people envision being a quintessential 95 year old living hundred series and that's not what we're talking about we're not even talking about being a twenty-five year old in living hundreds of years but profoundly enhancing who we are I think it would be profoundly actually disturbing and we suffer from a deep ennui that's a cool French word if we had radical life extension without radical life expansion but we're gonna emerge with a ie we can talk about that we will come smarter we're gonna add so the hierarchy of the neocortex so we're gonna create things that we can't even envision now the way we did the last time we got more neocortex when he became humanoids and we invented language and music and Julian 2 million years ago tried explaining music to a primate let me just let me expand on what rage' said here on this idea of longevity escape velocity so science is continually extending the human lifespan helping us cure heart disease cancer eventually neurodegenerative disease and so there's a point at which for every year that you're alive science is extending your life for more than a year and and there it's a mechanism of living long enough to live forever to coin your phrase when do you what's your projection prediction of when we're going to hit longevity escape velocity so I think we'll actually hit it before we can prove that we've hit it ok I think I've hit it myself I think my life expectancy is not getting shorter it's actually getting longer for one reason for that is that a very aggressive and adopting sort of cutting-edge ideas in keeping track of my own situation and being proactive but federal public what do you think that what's a number of her I've heard you quote a number it's one uh I think it's only you know ten twelve years away so let me just translate that right your because that that at that point biotechnology is gonna have taken over medicine it's just beget the next decade is gonna be a profound revolution its bio and AI together and that's now well I mean AI helps biotechnology but it's fundamentally biotechnology and that's just bridge to yeah that'll bring us to bridge three which is then uh robots that can basically finish the job of the immune system so you know your job here is don't do something stupid and for the next fifteen yeah wear your seatbelt till we get the self-driving cars going and then the other question is if you're an entrepreneur and I think about this a lot right if all of a sudden people are beginning to live longer and longer and longer which they will and we have this age wave right now but what are the business opportunities as life begins to extend I think about that as I'm looking at that are sadly I mean providing products for what we now think of as elderly people because they're gonna become less elderly in terms of the stereotypical view of what that means yeah it's it's it's healthy aging yeah so I've got an aging way I think aging will just mean getting wiser because we'll have more experience by the way it's gonna be a huge economic boom to countries because imagine instead of retiring at age 65 you stay in the workforce and continue to generate revenue at the top of your game alright so if you're on retirement age consider not retiring I think one of the most amazing correlations is when you retire you're probably well debt your death rate for retirees is is super high well people actually do get sick very often when they retire cuz they're kinda lost a purpose the whole idea of retirement implies that you don't like what you're doing and you're very good to do something else that you may be something you have a passion for that you've always wanted to do why not do that in the first place and I think the kind of economic situation we're entering is that's actually the best economic strategies is to do something you have a passion for in the first place which which goes back to your MTP all right what's your massively transformative purpose what's driven you as a child what's excited you and then how do you take on a moonshot that is hard that you can work on over a decade right I mean my moonshots in space and longevity and and and abundance our decadal in years are in many ways of doing that you know my father had a talent for music he's the genius at that and knew that when he was five and so his musical creations was his transformative purpose sure some people are good at understanding the psychology of other people and creating organizations or helping people with their relationships being a counselor or a therapist there's many different ways that you can contribute some people discover their passion young as a child some people takes longer I think that's the purpose of Education now is really to help people discover what they have a passion for which means experiencing the world and the different kinds of purposes you can have we have a ton of questions from this amazing community thank you guys for the questions you send in advance and the questions that you're working with AJ who's sitting right next to us gathering the first question I have here from from Steve is when do you think we're gonna see an AI like Jarvis you know in Iron Man Jarvis is sort of a personal AI that helps you interpret information interface with the world where are we now and how fast we get to to something Jarvis like well another example of javis was Samantha and her you know which was a great movie a non dystopian movie for the first time thank you Hollywood yeah it was futuristic movie that I thought was somewhat consistent with my ideas because not only was it not dystopian but it wasn't this one AI versus brave band of humans for control of the world there wasn't one AI everybody had their OS and it was smart enough for you to fall in love with and have a relationship with so I mean that's an articulation of human-level AI which I've been very consistent it's at putting it 2029 so actually in a book I wrote in 1989 an agent tells machines my twenty nine eleven years from now no twelve we're about 20 18 so if you if it's gonna be available in 2029 we'll be in beta in 2028 well things are gonna be moving quickly so it's December but so I found that it I said from early 2000s too late 2030s in this the age of two intelligent machines it sure was in the 80s actually took longer to write a book my most important information technology was a roll of quarters that I could use to feed the copier in the library really because I mean that's gonna tell you did your researcher he went to a library and you'd find some pages and you had to copy them if you were lucky enough to find the pages right I mean that was a skill so 1999 I said 2029 age of spiritual machines amazing so that was very controversial Stanford held a conference on my prediction and they took a poll there are no instant polling devices so it was by hand but the consensus of AI experts was hundreds of years if ever I'd say 25% said it would never happen 2006 there was a conference ar-50 at Dartmouth to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the duck 1956 number that offer answer gave AI its name by my mentor Marvin Minsky and John McCarthy and the contest's that we had instant polling devices and consensus was 50 years polls now are the median is 20 to 30 years there's a growing group of people think I'm too conservative but that's looking quite sound to me I mean it's looking more and more comfortable like this see the what we can do already we have computers that do a pretty good job of understanding the meaning of natural language and a friend of Mines company called viv was just acquired by by Samsung they've done these are from the founders of Syria they've done an amazing job and it's the age of the personal assistant they call it so 20 29 for Jarvis like interface I mean they're getting better at fantastic pace I mean months in a matter of months the the systems that I see and experience and work with our getting rapidly better 2029 is gonna be about right you're inside the rabbit hole here at Google so that's so you know my question to you guys is is what does that make you think about right I mean if you've got Jarvis level to put a mental mindset in place of that that can answer questions help gather data for you project the data for you help you analyze the data I mean it it becomes pretty incredible what the average person can start to think about and do I mean that my view is a lot of discussion about AI versus humans and there's a long history of dystopian futures movies along those lines but in my view it's part of who we are I mean we we are the technology creating species and we've always done that to extend our reach yeah so I we created a tool that allowed us to reach food at that higher branch we created tools that allowed us to build structures that we couldn't build with our bare hands I mean who here could build a skyscraper but we leveraged our muscles and now we've leveraged our minds so we can access all of your knowledge we think and not just access the knowledge we have all these aie assistants that help it's finite and it's democratized and level the playing field where I like to say the you know access to Google for the poorest child in Africa and access to Google for Larry Page is the same right amazed exactly I'm just having him confirm confirmed for me the Larry Page and that kid in Africa at the same access to Google that they do the bandwidth is getting pretty comparable who's gonna lose when that so it is democratized we completely ignore that our economic statistic that's another whole issue but these are brain extenders today we're gonna literally put them inside our bodies and brains I think that's somewhat of an arbitrary distinction so even if it's on my belt or in my pocket it is a brain extender now it really feels that way I mean and people really think of it that way they can't leave their cell phone cell phone smartphone at home because it is part of their mind I do a poll when I go out and speak and a right now probably have done this to 20,000 people and asked is anybody in the room not have their cell phone with them I've had one hand go up one hand and it's extraordinary because you know you move more than a meter from this thing and you're like you get nervous there's a connection so let's talk about the next step which is connecting the neocortex with the cloud we've talked about this a lot you and I have a mutual friend Brian Johnson who's the CEO colonel Brian's going to be on stage with you at abundance 360 going deep into into brain computer interface Ilan's working on it with neural lace advanced micro devices Facebook's working on it I'm sure some place within the kilometer here it's going on talk about a BCI here when are we gonna win our you've made a concrete prediction of what we're gonna have it but what does that mean all right well the projects you mentioned now I think will be usable for specific overcoming profound deficits cognitive deficits paralysis because labeling people that communicate who are profoundly disabled what I'm talking about and and that and these are precursor technologies to it I'm talking to the transistors but the neocortex well to back up the world is hierarchical trees of trunks which have branches which have more branches which have leaves as a hierarchical structure in the world so evolution so giad be useful to have a brain structure that could understand hierarchies it invented the neocortex 200 million music you write about this I had a creative mind yeah and so it enabled these early mammals to actually invent new behaviors non-mammalian animals without our neocortex have fixed behaviors they could evolve a new fixed behavior over you know ten thousand generations and that was good enough actually turn a million he's a good and the environment change very slowly but then there was a sudden change 65 million years ago if you look at the rock structures representing 65 million years ago the geologists will explain that shows a catastrophic change at the end an increased rate layer of iridium that shows us a metallic chondrite hit the earth that's the leading hypothesis the volcanic super volcanoes action crowd has not completely given in yet but anyway something happened and that's when mammals overtook the archaeological niche and now they got bigger their brains got bigger and faster and the neocortex got bigger even faster and that developed these you know curvatures and ridges that are distinctive on the primary brain and then two million years ago if you remember it's been a while but I remember yeah we were walking around and we didn't have these big foreheads and so evolution said neocortex is pretty good stuff let's have even more and developed a larger enclosure all of which provided for more neocortex by the way limited by the pelvis as a constraint for the size of the brain right well the brain couldn't get any bigger because birth would have been impossible yeah so there probably were some really smart human rights then but they'd pass on their genes and the fact that this was additional neocortex has been controversial I wrote about that actually 50 years ago but and there was one neuroscientists that confirmed that through autopsies but any rate it is additional neocortex so what did we do with it we put it at the top of the hierarchy the neocortex is organized in a hierarchy it's not one big neural net so this is where my thesis and how the brain works differs from just the normals of big neural net in the connectionist field it's lots of different modules each of which is is a small neural net can learn a patent learn a pattern remember it recognize it but they're organized in a hierarchy and recently the European brain reverse engine project has confirmed that there is this repeating module of about a hundred neurons repeated 300 million times these are the modules in the neocortex there's no plasticity within your lifetime it doesn't change within the module but the connections between the modules are can are changing and we can see in a module axons coming in from other modules showing a hierarchy and the hierarchy is created by our own thinking and as you go up the hierarchy things get more interesting and more intelligent the very bottom of the hierarchy I can tell that that's a curved line I can tell that that's a straight line at the top of the hierarchy I can tell that's funny that's ironic she's pretty so what we did with it since we were already doing a great job of being primates we put it at the top of the neocortical hierarchy and that was the enabling factor for us to invent language and music no other primate has music every human culture we've ever discovered as music humour technology that also needed this opposable appendage but in terms of brain activity that was the enabling factor it was a one-shot deal because as we just said the brain could not continue to grow in size but it was enough to just put us over that threshold where we could then create technology that would enhance us further so we're going to do it again we're gonna I mean what I'm doing here what I've actually been doing for quite a while is creating here at Google in the words what you've already brought you in for is to create AI based on my model of the neocortex and I'm not saying we have perfect knowledge of the neocortex yet we're gonna we're getting better and better models as we get more information from the brain reverse engineering projects but the 2030s will have really the Aquatics it's as good or better than our card neocortex but we're gonna but we'll be bigger and we'll be able to connect our neocortex wirelessly to the cloud just the way your smartphone that that smartphone is billions of times more powerful per dollar than the computer I used at MIT but that's not the most interesting thing it makes it about it it makes itself thousands millions of times more powerful yet by connecting to millions of computers in the cloud we can't get do that with our brains we do actually expand our brains indirectly through these devices but we'll do it directly from our neocortex and not just to do the things we do with our smartphones like search and translation directly from our brains although that'll be feasible and useful but to actually connect to more neocortex so just like we did two million years ago we're gonna expand our neocortex and just like we did two million years ago we'll put it at the top of the near cortical hierarchy and just as we did that will create whole new concepts and ways of communicating that we can't even understand without that additional neocortex so I mean primates you don't have that additional neocortex can't understand music or language or humor so we'll create things of of that profound nature well so it becomes smaller will become funnier the only difference is that unlike two million years ago it won't be a one-shot deal because the cloud is you know we need power as we speak and will continue to grow exponentially so I mean the the question I think about this a lot right because it's we can't know what this will enable I mean if you're if you're connecting your neocortex to the cloud you ask a question you think and you know the answer instantly and you can bring on increase your your conceptual intelligence where I can start thinking about you know quantum physics which you know 18:05 and Minnesota's 805 and 807 really were challenging for me at MIT I was I was going to molecular biology route but I wanted so much and become a fireman said if you think you're on the same mechanics you don't have to stay awesome but it was use as you're saying it won't just be a matter of answering questions we can't answer today but coming up with questions we couldn't even contemplate it's when people talk about the future of jobs 2035 mid 2030s you know 18 years from now I mean the concept of what we're going to be even doing is unfathomable cannot understand that I mean what we are doing now is unfathomable to people in 1950 1900 you know we think we've eliminated all the jobs from 1900 essentially and yet we have a larger fraction of the population growing of working making an order of magnitude more money per hour in constant dollars and doing what's more interesting work or moving up Maslow's hierarchy power I I have a bunch of questions want to ask rapid-fire here so Breanna is asking and I've got a bunch of A's coming in from Ajay's bringing for the community here who's gonna win the battle on AI prowess Amazon Google Facebook Tesla it seems like Amazon is way out ahead of Google recently I mean it is a community project there's a lot of collaboration still thoughts of collaboration the thoughts of academic research that's exciting that is incorporating all these systems are all somewhat close I mean I don't want to say here in town all right that's that's fair enough cuz I agree with you everybody's everybody's collaborating and working them together right it's we're all benefiting from each other's work it's all pretty close there are small differences that make a difference in the marketplace Google's not doing too badly and I think it was doing doing doing his dominant but you know Jeff I know I've known Jeff for 35 years he is he is an incredible draw driven person he's got amazing amazing MTP Eric asks we're on the Gartner hype cycle do you think AI is today in particular with autonomous vehicle so I teach about the AI about the Gartner hype cycle we talk about how to read an exponential curve in the abundance digital community right we have written about the life cycle of technologies so very often this hype is is accurate but mistimed so you know in the 1990s you had the URL dog.com you were a billionaire then around the year 2000 the financial community said no wait a second you can't make money on these Internet companies and the internet crash almost took down the world economy the internet was revolutionary we have little internet companies now you've mentioned a few of them that are worth trillions of dollars together so a lot of these technologies I think are in the hype phase these phases are shorter than they used to be because the acceleration so like virtual reality 3d printing they've got some interesting niche applications but they're not ready for primetime yet the only a few years off I think 3d printing is gonna revolutionize manufacturing starting around 2020 that it would be able to put that clothing and we have 10 trillion dollar industry by the way global manufacturing but I don't really view that perspective have that perspective with regard to AI that the hype is justified or the excitement it is profoundly revolutionizing every industry and every industry is going to become an AI industry very soon and we've just begun to scratch the surface well here's so here's a fun is proceeding very quickly so it it's not high it's justified excitement here's a fun one from Joanna on a specific AI enabled industry she asked what is the future of gender when female robots are already being used for sex and the AI industry is primarily run by men will there be equality in the singularity or will it make inequality even more prevalent I mean I think we're gonna particularly when virtual and augmented reality get going we can expand our concepts of sexuality and beauty we're doing that already with the prevalence of communication technologies and we're discovering that the actual reality of human sexuality is more complicated than just this duality of male and female Martine Rothblatt they're both know and work with this written B apartheid of gender that sexuality and gender is much more complexity nominate suddenly a continuum but it's a continuum on in multiple dimensions and part of the human freedom movement is actually recognize these these differences which very often people had to repress so we find people are very different regarding their gender identification their interests and sexuality and so I think we'll be able to celebrate that more in 2001 I did a TED presentation where I turned myself into a young female rock singer using virtual reality technology at the kinetic sensors picked up my movement and it created in real time an animation of a young woman and then a band came on stage and I sang a song and my voice was turned into a woman's voice and drove her lips and my 13 year old daughter came on stage and she was turned into Richard Saul Wurman the Ted I'm sorry her avatar looked very realistic and people have not seen Richard Saul Wurman do hip-hop cakes before the the purpose of it was to show that in virtual reality you can be someone else so right now actually changing your gender in real reality is pretty significant profound process but you could do it in virtual reality much more easily and you can beat someone else a couple could become each other and discover the relationship from the others perspective and so it'll be I think liberating in terms of we don't have to just have the same boring body no offense to the audience speaking for myself all the time so I think virtual or augmented reality as it becomes very realistic incorporates all the senses particularly in 2030s when it goes inside the nervous system with these nano robots will enable us to be someone else and have other kinds of experiences Ajay asks a question from the community here to both of us which is if you were 30 today what would you be spending your days on and I'll extrapolate what kind of companies would you consider as an entrepreneur building I still feel 18 actually good I sort of locked in for myself at 27 okay and that fact I asked my grandfather when he was 82 and I was 22 she was just like being 82 and he said well I haven't noticed any difference yes there's been some subtle differences in my body in it but you kind of get used to those and he said the only thing he really has noticed is that the frequency with which your loved ones pass from the scene gets greater and greater as you get older that we hope to actually change that phenomena but assume that was asked by a young person because I think as you get older your identity doesn't change I'm not doing anything differently than I was I'm still involved with this let's say let's change it what advice to you would you give to a 30 year old today in terms of how what they should be focusing on or what if they were an entrepreneur looking to start companies what where would where would they find the most excitement fun opportunity it's kind of a old piece of advice which is to find your passion find your MTP first and some people that really have an innate passion for music or art or writing our science and that becomes apparent generally if you have that it'll be a pattern when you're a child other people need to experience things in life and find what they have a passion for because it may be more complex a combination of their skills communicating with other people and having relationships and but find something where you have a passion and it's not I mean technology's changed in the world but that doesn't mean you have to be a software engineer I mean that's a great thing to be but all these different fields are being transformed being a musician I mean my father couldn't even hear his compositions except occasionally up late at night arguing with funders to hire an orchestra so you could hear its composition so today you know kids in their dorm room with their iPads and MIDI keyboards can create a whole Orchestra and create fantastic ensembles that were impossible before and so on so your ability to be creative in every field this is being transformed and as you've pointed out every fields being is being changed I mean what's your view of this I mean if if I were 30 and I feel 30 and I think I'm probably in creating companies and doing more at a much higher frequency and I was at various I'm looking at those things I agree first find out if you're not doing something that's within your emotional MTP if you're doing something just for money or some like that that's it's a waste there's so much opportunity over the place I I think about the following right it's there are opportunities for entrepreneurs so I work with a lot of the fortune five companies through innovation partnership program and through all the stuff we do at SU and they're all starving for new thinking they're also locked in so can you you know if you were in the data space collecting large sets of data and being able to do some machine learning on that data to create algorithms those are opportunities they're helping and running creating a culture of experimentation a lot of these large companies they have assets they have brand they have cash they have they have customers they have data but they don't have that you know sort of opportunity for real innovative creation I mean it really is true that the pace of change is getting faster and faster we started cuz well I had met in 2001 actually at stead and that's it at ten and maybe every couple of weeks it'd be some really interesting breakthrough there's now several a day you know and you talk to entrepreneurs and there's like new exciting perspectives and ideas every few weeks the paces so if you don't discover this week you can discover it next week talk to lots of people and you'll find other people with ideas that seem revolutionary and if one really seems exciting to you and something that you think you can contribute to you can you know join that team I mean that's what I'm what we're trying to curate within the abundance digital communities is create a community of people who've got MTPs AB moonshots have access to these technologies and they can team up and and start companies together or at least give support each other's ideas right by the way one thing I think it's really important I can't stress this enough there's a mindset out there that if you have an idea you need to keep it very close to yourself because someone might steal it from you and I think I I learned early on that the idea is the easy part and it's execution which is the hard part yeah comment on that this discussion comes up a lot of like involved with a couple of stealth companies that really think it's important to keep their projects quiet my orientation has always been to actually talk about your project so you can get excitement get publicity that'll attract resources like other people to work on it and not to mention investors yeah typically it's your own execution not competition that determines your success my aunt actually now in the 90s was a head of a major advertising agency I always said if someone's not copying an idea you're you've got the wrong idea and Google wasn't the only search engine and it just did a good job and it's true of all of these companies that have succeeded and to do a good job you have to attract other people to work on and that's very hard to do if you have keeping I just as a piece of advice for entrepreneurs if you've got an idea share it because you're gonna find you can get a lot more benefit from sharing the idea and getting feedback in term in you know in you know Joanna's tried that idea or Bob tried the idea and this is why it fails so don't go down those paths again yeah even large companies do that I mean Google took its machine learning software platform and made it open-source tensorflow yeah and those discussion internally does that make sense to basically give our crown jewels to everyone the argument Ford which has proven to be correct is okay everyone's going to use it and improve it and will benefit from that it'll help the world but it ultimately it's we're better off and also creating so goodwill so we can attract talent yeah so one of the uploaded questions not not a not a hard one to guess here but is Rey what's your craziest prediction for the end of this next century or beyond and I I have a guess entries well I I guess I guess the question is you know some 80 years from now what's what's your craziest what's your crit is a prediction not the end of your predictions here well I mean I'm saying that we're going to begin to extend our thinking in the cloud by having these Medical nano robots go in our brain and connect the top layer of our neocortex to two new layers of the neocortex in the cloud so our thinking in the 2030s will be a hybrid of our biological thinking and non-biological thinking the non-biological part of our thinking is subject to the law of accelerating insurance it's going to grow exponentially it actually won't take that long for it to predominate gets so that's the idea behind the singularity that by 2045 we've expanded our intelligence a billion fold almost all of which then is non-biological and this also affects our physical bodies as there's many scenarios or you can actually create it literally a physical body with self-organizing nanotechnology not to mention all the interesting things we can do in virtual reality which will be virtually indistinguishable from real reality so that's to the 2040s we call that's a singularity the the metaphor there which you borrowed from physics is to the event horizon there's an event horizon around a physics singularity such a gravity is so strong within that event horizon that information can't easily get out there's been some interesting discussions that that's a classical viewpoint and that in terms of quantum events there are particle pairs created at that event or evaporating black holes and that information does leak out that way and Hawking was against that but he acknowledged you know that that is in fact the case but that's actually a good metaphor still because it's hard to see beyond the event horizon but not impossible then the translation is there is no you can't predict what can happen 80 years even barely predict what's going to happen in 30 well we can make certain predictions about the basic capacity and of information technology what it's going to enable us to do exactly how we'll use that it's hard to see so that's the metaphor of the event horizon around a black hole which is a physics singularity and that's in the 2040s so it's really hard to contemplate beyond that I think space and becomes very interesting we can explore space I think largely we're not gonna send squishy squishy creatures meat bodies here I think it's worthwhile doing that in the near term because we learn a lot about biology and so sending a human to the moon was was a worthwhile project we invented little things like the microchip and but in terms of the exploration of the universe I think then will be alternately swarms of nanobots that can go close to the speed of light so then the most strategic issue and the late late this century will be can we actually send information faster than the speed of light and I've discussed some different scenarios where that might be possible you know actually if you measure certain subatomic particles and how fast they go there's a Gaussian distribution on their speed so some appear to be going faster than the speed of light there's some subtle phenomena that might indicate an ability to do that and that's what engineering is all about taking some subtle little capability and amplifying it leveraging it but that'll be a key question with the substrate so a related key question that's being avoided by the community and it's a debate in a dialogue and one of the place you know we agree on 99 probably 0.9 percent but one place we don't agree is the question of you know are we alone in the universe is there intelligent life out there and I'll make my argument first if you would and I believe that there is ubiquitous life you know if that we're in a in a universe right now some fourteen point seven billion years and our planet began about five billion years ago and that means that the universe had existed for some ten billion years for round numbers if you look at the highest atomic number element in our body let's call it like iodine when did that come into existence ooh so revolutions about a billion years after the Big Bang so they've got nine billion year as a potential evolution so the question of course asked is okay if life exists in the universe where is it why haven't they come here and my answer is that as a normal progression of life is going to be to enter that technological singularity and at that point the desire or interest to go to other planets is effectively meaningless when you can create an infinite number of virtual worlds and explore them why would you want to go and you know go to conquer and earth-like planets it's senseless it's like I don't communicate very often with the bacteria in the soil over there even though they're there it does communicate with you because we've got all these organisms inside us but that's another issue yeah but what you just said seems a little inconsistent with your passion for space and just the inherent intellectual challenge of discovering the world we live in which I do think is it worth well I do a passion for space I have to say my passion for space was disrupted only once when I read the singularity is nearer I was like god damn it because it was you know the realization is that my passions for space are the intellectual adventurers of what we're going to discover the the getting all of Earth's eggs out of one basket it's you know the eventual you know I wanted to bring Star Trek to existence so I think there is the Fermi paradox which you well familiar with yep the SETI I support the SETI search even if the results is negative which so far it has been but we've looked at so little yes and no you have to so we don't notice any intelligent life out there and that's what the Fermi paradox is based on and so one explanation is okay we look it's so little but you need to take into consideration the law of accelerating returns at once a civilization reaches a technological sophistication of having radio or any kind of primitive electronic technology it very quickly within you know a hundred years at most develops the singularity we will have gone from the fastest way to deliver a message on earth being a pony to the singularity in space of less than two centuries so and these civilizations if they exist are not spread out over dozens of years it's spread out over cosmological time which is you just point out billions of years yeah so some other civilization if it's behind us it doesn't matter but if it's ahead of us it's not ahead of us by eleven years it's ahead of us right you know a million years or a hundred million years and yet it only takes one or two hundred years to jump from the most primitive electronic technology to exquisitely profound technology and and actually being capable of galaxy-wide engineering so it's not like we have to hunt for a tiny needle in in a cosmic haystack if they're doing galaxy-wide engineering we should be noticing them just to their incidental communications and yet we've been scouring the universe it's not like we have to find this little needle that it should be gloriously evident to us and the fact that it's not tells us something that it's not a proof that they're not out there there could be a civilization that is in fact 11 years ahead of us and we wouldn't quite notice it Oh doubtful but you know so I had this debate at the SETI Institute and this is Drake formula which you're familiar with each of the many terms in that there's a very wide range of plausible parameters you can put in there the typical analysis is there should be thousands to millions of intelligent civilizations per galaxy I put in in the singularities near I cited that but I also have put in some other reasonable assumptions and you come up with 1.2 civilizations in our galaxy we know of one so yes it's implausible that that we would be in the lead but somebody's got to be in the lead and by the anthropic principle if we weren't at this level we wouldn't be talking about it it's incredibly unlikely that our universe would exist with its standard model constants in exactly precise range within billions of the measurement to allow life to allow evolution to exist to have information and coding particles and yet again if it weren't the case we wouldn't be here talking about it so somebody's got to be in the lead my argument is said it's unlikely that there was the civilizations out there because they would be a million years ahead and at that point they're vastly beyond the singularity they'd be doing beyond galaxy-wide engineering and we would notice them when you bring it back to - to this planet and and today but I'm I'm curious where you guys what you guys think are we the first are are we sort of enth on the prediction because the number of planets we're discovering our blowing us away I mean that's amazing all right on Tuesday I'm spending an hour on stage with Marc Andreessen he and I are doing a fireside chat him on convergence of technologies and one of the things that hit me when I first met Marc marks the creator of mosaic as you know in Netscape is that what mosaic really was early on was a user interface moment it was a there was this powerful thing called ARPANET which connected the computers MIT at Harvard or Stanford in DC but was only usable by certain terminals and so forth and very limited very complex interface protocols and then he created something called mosaic which was and allowed a user to interface very simply with it and build websites and then on top of that user interface moment platform exploded hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars of value and so I I look and I teach at SU and abundance digital to look for user interface elements billions I mean just that yeah there we go I teach to look for user interface moments moments when a piece of software or capability lies on top of a complex system and then enables entrepreneurs to create tremendous wealth right the app store on the Apple phones was a user interface moment and it hits me that AI is going to be the ultimate user interface moment that it allows you to interface with 3d printers with CRISPR cast nine molecule you don't have to know how CRISPR casts nine works you could just talk you know speak your your desire yeah your that's there well I think it's a good way to look at it because it makes everything feasible people will talk about flying cars people very often ask where are the flying cars and so they're coming but they're only gonna be feasible because of AI not everybody's kind of want to learn to pilot a plane I know you've gathered that skill but so AI is gonna fly it it's kind of navigated you're just say where you want to go it'll actually be easier than self-driving cars because this more space up there to to navigate so it's easier to not get in an accident but AI makes everything feasible I think if you think about virtual and augmented reality it hasn't quite had that a that user interface moment yet it's real cumbersome to use it's hard to interact with that I mean I've just as keeping up with technology I've tried a number of them and it's like this is a pain to set up and to use I think that's coming I think we're in the hi phase of VR and angry were you know I want to close on a on a broader human subject which is what do you think it means to be human well I think we are the species that changes who we are so people say oh well if we some of our thinking is in the cloud and that eventually becomes more powerful and we're gonna put devices inside our bodies and transform our health are we still human I don't think humans even have to be biological I think humans are the species that changes who we are we created technology you know as soon as I had this tool that could reach fruit at a higher branch that changed who I was that tool is part of me and it's extension of who we are so we started a whole new evolutionary process an evolutionary process led to humans and then in fact you look at the pace of we talked about acceleration of change yeah you know mammals took tens of millions of years and humanoids millions of years and Homo sapiens hundreds of thousands of years and then finally the this acceleration of evolution passed on in a very smooth fashion to technology the first steps like fire and stone tools and so on took thousands of years and now we see paradigm shifts and one year or less but it's a very smooth transition from biology to technology and so we are the technology creating species but technology is an ability to change our environment to change ourselves we are going to profoundly transform ourselves and people say what do I really want to become part of machine you're not even going to notice it because it's gonna be a sensible thing to do at each point just like you take a medicine that you know ok that's some nanobots and it keeps you healthy you'd be stupid not to do it and by the way this has now this new feature it will improve your memory so you can recall things more easily and it's just going to become a seamless process as it has been so that's who we are we are the species that changes who we are to become smarter more profound more beautiful more creative more musical funnier sexier amen and I love that so listen I hope you guys have enjoyed this if you're part of the abundance digital community you'll be joining ray and I again at the end January 21 22 23 we'll be spending a day together going deep into artificial intelligence BCI and another subject we haven't talked about nanotechnology right and we're both oh yeah gosh we're both advisers and investors are now a tech company we did mention nano robots yeah all right we're gonna have a lot of fun I hope you've enjoyed this again hello to the SU family and T the futurism audience as well and Ray thank you pal always a pleasure it's great to share ideas yeah there's always more a lot more and it's getting more abundant every day see you guys
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