- Your risk of depression goes up about 50% of lifetime risk of depression just from the two servings a week of commercial baked goods or fast food, did you follow that? - Hey everybody, this is
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speaking pretty rapidly to review some of these new
advances in nutritional science that enables us to control our
health destiny, age slower, maintain our full mental and
physical capacity as we age. But also during this presentation today, we're gonna focus on
why people have trouble obtaining an ideal weight, and what are the biological
and biochemical factors that lead to overeating
behaviors and food addiction. Because right now, you have an unprecedented
opportunity in human history to live longer and
healthier than ever before, and while we have this advances in science telling
us exactly what to do, people are choosing to
commit suicide with food. And the fast food revolution
is creating mental illness. It drives violence, obesity, depression and bizarre thinking, and bad choices, including an unrelenting desire
to over-consume calories. So, I'm gonna put some
of that together today, and hopefully you'll leave here
with a better understanding to care for your own patients, your own people you desire
to have a positive effect on, and have more knowledge
that you can put into action to help people not just lose weight, but maintain their weight loss and enjoy eating healthfully
for the rest of their life. So, with that as an
introduction, let's get started. Food gives us nutrients, of course, and there's two types
of nutrients in food: there's macronutrients and
there's micronutrients. Now, macronutrients are... The word macro means large, and macronutrients contain calories like fat, carbohydrate and protein, those are the three basic macronutrients. And one thing we know for sure, that the more macronutrients
you eat, the shorter you live. They say, "The longer your waistline, "the shorter your lifeline," that we know fat on the
body accelerates aging, and fat cells secrete
inflammatory substances that affect our brain to
make us lose brain cells. Fat makes us insulin resistant, so, now, the pancreas has to respond to almost anything you
eat with more insulin, and higher amounts of
insulin promote angiogenesis. And the word angiogenesis means to promote the growth of new blood vessels to fuel the growth of fat. So, insulin is very fat-promoting. And insulin promotes cancers, and heart disease, and dementia excess insulin that is. Now, the fat cells secrete
these lipokins and cytokines that are so inflammatory that they stimulate the production of a system of hormones called aromatase, and the aromatase system
produces more estrogen. So, when you're overweight, you're producing higher
levels of estrogen, and higher levels of estrogen stimulate breast tissue
and prostate tissue to lead to prostate
cancer and breast cancer. What I'm saying right now is that being overweight and
consuming too many calories increases the risk of cancer, right? To multiple mechanisms. So, I'm saying here like olive oil. Olive oil is breast cancer-promoting. The reason olive oil
promotes breast cancer is because it's concentrated calories, you absorb it very rapidly. And whenever concentrated
calories are absorbed rapidly, they stimulate the
appetite to eat more food. If you ate, let's say walnuts
instead of walnut oil, or olives, instead of olive oil, or pistachios, instead
of pistachio nut oil, if you have the whole nutter seed, the calories are absorbed more slowly. So, your body takes a look at the appetite as a chance to control itself and respond to those
calories that's ingested. Whereas we're eating oils,
they're absorbed so rapidly that the body doesn't
ratchet down its appetite, and it stimulates the overeating of food. Like for example, if you guys
were coming to the buffet and you were filling up your plates, but while you were waiting to
get your food on the buffet, I gave you a tablespoon
of olive oil to take while you were waiting to get your food, you would not consume 120
calories less than the buffet, because the olive oil has no effect to ratchet down the appetite. On the other hand, if I gave you guys an apple to eat on your way to the buffet, and the scientist's are recording how much calories you ate at the meal, they would find out that you
would ate 65 calories less because the apple has
fiber, weight, nutrients, and it takes time to digest it, and you would eat less food at the buffet based on how much apple you
consumed on your way here. But if I mix the olive oil
in the food on the buffet, you would naturally not
just get 120 calories extra, but you'd also eat more
food on the buffet, more than 200 calories
extra on the average, because oil is an appetite-stimulant. So, in general, we're saying here that certain food drives up the appetite, and basically, the more rapidly those calories are absorbed
into your bloodstream, the more appetite
stimulation you're gonna get. So, there, we're talking about
excess macronutrients here, and how excess macronutrients shortens life and drives appetite, and overeating behavior, and micronutrients do
not contain calories, vitamins, minerals, phytochemicals we get from an assortment of
colorful plant foods. And these have the opposite effect, because we're talking about,
during this presentation, that the higher our micronutrient per calorie ratio of our diet, the more we have a high
micronutrient bang per caloric buck. The more it lowers our appetite, we're able to stop that craving
for wanting excess calories 'cause if you don't get
enough micronutrients, when you are ubiquitously
deficient in phytochemicals and antioxidants, like most Americans are, you become a calorie consuming
monster and you can't control how much you're eating and you
naturally become overweight and being overweight
accelerates your death. So what I'm saying right now
in this very first principle of a nutritarian diet is this, the most proven methodology to slow aging and to extend human lifespan is, and I want you to write this down, is moderate caloric restriction in the context of
micronutrient excellence. That's what you should be
able to parrot-back at me. Moderate caloric restriction in the context of
micronutrient excellence. 'Cause what I'm telling you right now is that as you achieve
micronutrient excellence, it naturally has you desire
the right amount of calories. You stop wanting to overeat all the time because your micronutrients are met, your fiber needs are met. And when you're eating the
right fiber and micronutrients and right amount of natural foods, there's a lot of different mechanisms via which the body can
register and control how much calories you eat. For example, when you
digest fiber from plants like mushrooms and beans and greens, you produce short-chain fatty
acids, predominantly butyrate. In other words, the bacteria in the gut that eat up those fibers and
the indigestible materials in those foods produce butyrate and butyrate signals the hypothalamus, the base part of your brain,
the appestat controller, to ratchet down and have
you desire less calories. Without those nutrients,
without those fibers, you're left with no appetite control. So the first principle
of a nutritarian diet, the most principle that
most governs your lifespan and your longevity, is H equals N over C. That means your healthy life expectancy. How long are you gonna live in the quality of your life as you age is proportional to the micronutrient per calorie density of your diet. We're looking to strive
to eat natural foods that have their full
assortment of phytochemicals, that full symphony of phytochemicals, and that's when you
achieve the greatest health and you desire the right amount
of calories, not too much. Now the American diet, the
Standard American Diet or SAD, couldn't be better
designed to kill people, had it been designed by ISIS. By the way, I said that on television, I said on my PBS show, I said, this diet's been designed by Al-Qaeda, but they cut that out just to let you know that wasn't me talking. They dubbed in a voice that said, just so you know it wasn't my joke, my joke was this diet's
been designed by Al-Qaeda, so don't blame me for that bad joke; they came across and it said, this diet's been designed by Darth Vader. Not that terrible, but it
wasn't as good as Al-Qaeda. By the way, the joke
doesn't have to be so funny because if you laugh and smile anyway, it still makes you live longer because laughing and smiling
is good for your health. The joke could be stupid. Just laugh anyway. Good, good work. All right, so I always say, we've landed the man on the moon already. And you know what I mean by that? I mean that we already know
how to win the war on cancer. We have that information
in our knowledge base. But the answer is vegetables. And people don't like that answer. They want a different answer
on how to win the war. They don't wanna hear that
you have to eat vegetables. They wanna hear, I want
a magic pill I could take so I cannot smoke three
packs of cigarettes a day and not get lung cancer, or
so I can eat potato chips and pretzels and pizza
and donuts and hamburgers and not get breast cancer. But it's never gonna happen. We don't live in a fairy tale. This isn't the magical land. This is reality. And when you're in reality,
you eat those foods, you get what you earn, those
diseases, and you get them. So you can see by this slide
that we eat predominantly processed foods and animal products with only about 10% of calories
from whole plant foods. But that whole 10% of calories
from whole plant foods is half white potato and ketchup. And we only eat about 2%
of calories from vegetables in this country. Thus, the explanation for
this explosion in cancer and obesity that still climbs because we know that it's
a seesaw relationship, that as you eat more vegetables, you desire less calories in your diet and you get better
appetite control and ease; as you eat more processed
foods and fast foods and lower nutrient foods, you desire more calories in
direct proportion to that. This is not that complicated. And what I'm saying
here, a piece of chicken is just like a bagel. And why am I saying a piece
of chicken is like a bagel? Why? Nobody? Right, because neither one contains a significant load of micronutrients. They're both rich in sources
of calories and macronutrients. The bagel has carbohydrate and the chicken is full of protein, but neither one gives
you a significant source of micronutrients like
vitamins and minerals and phytochemicals and antioxidants, because all the
phytochemicals and antibiotics that protect against cancer
are found in colorful plants, not in animal products
and not in processed foods like bread and pasta
and white rice and chips and soft drinks and
whatever people are eating, pretzels, donuts,
cookies, crackers, right? Putting empty calories. The more empty calories
you eat in your life, the more you shorten your life. So that bagel you're eating over there and that those chips and that, those every time you have white rice and bagels and chips and vegan junk food, you're shortening your life because there's no nutrients in there, especially when they're
high-glycemic carbohydrates. Just as bad as eating animal products. It's natural plant foods
that give us the ability to live a long life. So-high nutrient, low-calorie intake slows the aging process
and enhances DNA repair, stops the cross-linking and the buildup of methylation defects and enables the body to
reverse methylation defects and broken DNA cross-links. And you know what? The high intake of green
vegetables and mushrooms and onions and these high
phytochemicals in plant foods not only have antioxidant effects and increased cellular repair, but they suppress genetic alterations. They don't allow them to be expressed. When you have the GSTP1
gene for breast cancer, that gene gets hidden, compressed. It can't cause a problem when you have a high intake
of vegetables in your diet. So if I ask you over here, what's the food that has the most powerful
effect to prevent cancer, what would you answer? Vegetables, but particularly
green vegetables. And if I ask you guys over here, here, what's the food that's
most actively protected against heart attacks and
strokes, what food would you say? Vegetables and green vegetables
that are most richest. The same food. It's not that complicated. We need a diet rich in
colorful vegetables, especially green vegetables. Believe it or not, our body is
dependent on green vegetables for the activation of the
antioxidant response element, the ARE in our cells that
works to keep the cells clean and repair damage, is
fueled by the consumption of vegetable greens and
other colorful plants. Without those, we are not normal. You can't be normal if you're not eating, sufficiently of green vegetables. And if you don't wanna eat vegetables, you don't like vegetables, then you better live close to a hospital. Now that's a joke. 'Cause living close to a hospital is not gonna help you live longer anyway. It doesn't even make sense, that joke. What about that slide that
says slows the metabolic rate, what's that all about? Slows the metabolic rate. Is it better to have a fast metabolic rate or a slow metabolic rate? What do you guys think? - [Audience] Slow. - That's right. Here, look at me. Take my body, for example. Let's say I ate 200 calories extra over and above my body needs each day. 200 calories times 365 days,
3,500 calories a pound, that means I gained 20
pounds over that year from the 200 calories a day. I gained 20 pounds from 200 calories over my basic metabolic rate. So am I gonna gain 20 pounds
with extra 200 calories? Am I going to do that? - No.
- No. Because as you increase the calories, the body will speed up the metabolic rate to burn off some of those calories so they won't all become
pounded on the body. So only getting 10
pounds, not the 20 pounds I was supposed to gain. Did you get that? Now what if I'm eating,
my basal metabolic rate, and I undershoot those
calories by 100 calories a day, do I lose 10 pounds that year? No. My body's gonna work hard
to slow down its metabolism to not lose that much weight
because I already exercise and my body wants to
maintain the muscle structure and I'm already down to a low body fat. So my body's gonna actively
resist getting thinner 'cause this is the most
favorable weight for me and the amount of muscles I
demand from the activities I do. So my body will slow
down its metabolic rate. It'll lower the thyroid
hormone a little bit. My body temperature will lower a drop. My respiratory quotient, the amount of calories burned
by respirations, will lower. My vital will conserve calories and it'll slow the metabolic rate, because our metabolic rate
is the rate at which we age and now I'll slow the aging
process and age slower. That's why I'm already 104 years old. But let me tell you something right now, 'cause people are all
confused about nutrition. They're trying to use
some gimmick, fad or trick to speed up the metabolic rates so they can eat more
calories and not get fat. That's your formula for early death. What you really should be trying to do is to eat super healthy so you can comfortably get
a little less calories, so you can slow down your metabolic rate and not get too thin. Did you follow that? Because when you do that,
it stabilizes your muscle, it strengthens your bones. It doesn't weaken them. It actually makes less bone turnover. So now if I'm in a car
accident or I get a pneumonia, you have to be in the hospital
for some horrible thing. You have more stabilization
of your bone mass and your muscle mass. You can lose less muscle mass, not more. Your metabolic rate is more stable. Completely the opposite of
what most people are thinking. Your bones are strengthened by the exposure to these
healthy plant foods when you don't overly stimulate
them with growth hormones. So what I'm saying right now
is that these extra hormones, particularly estrogen, insulin and IGF1, insulin-like growth factor one, from eating too much animal protein, those stimulate turnover
of muscle, muscle growth, bone turnover, lack of stability, and, of course, promotion
of cellular replication and promotion of cancer
as they age the brain. We want our hormones to be lower, at the lower levels of normal. For example, remember I
told you just a second ago, slowing the metabolic rate, your body lowers the thyroid function? What most people don't
aware of, even physicians, how many physicians are
here in the audience? Raise your hand. Okay, great, a lot of doctors. In the normal range of T4, right, what I'm saying right here
in the bottom half of normal of T4 you have half the heart attack rates compared to people in the
upper half of normal of T4, of free T4. Did you follow that? It's better to have your body be, your thyroid be slightly
on the slow side of normal, not out of the normal range. But it's contrary to what
people's thinking about because they learn things in nutrition that aren't quite accurate. So now I'm saying that
vegetables have anti-inflammatory effects in the endothelium. They vasodilate. They increase blood flow. Popeye was right. When you eat greens, you get instantaneous increased cellular efficiency
of oxygenation of tissues when you're eating these vegetables. And a lot of different
studies show that vegetables, the green vegetables, because
of their phytochemicals, especially the isothiocyanates, feeding the antioxidant response elements, prevent plaque from being able to stick to the blood vessel wall
and keep your blood vessels clean of plaque buildup. I'm oversimplifying that, but I don't have time to
go into the mechanisms. But just like vegetables protect mostly against heart disease, vegetables are also
protective against cancer. 'Cause there's hundreds of studies that show the link
between green vegetables and other raw vegetables of all color in their activation of
anticancer mechanisms in the cell that enables us to not
just live, age well, but age without fear and age without worry of getting cancer. Our body is already cancer-resistant. We don't have to live with fear
of heart disease and cancer. It's not normal to get these diseases that other Americans get. And the same factors that
create these diseases create this food addiction mentality. We have a nation of food
addicts that live to eat, right? They recreate with food, they overeat food and they can't stop eating it. So as you put on subcutaneous fat, you also put on visceral
fat in your organs in and around, under the abdominal wall that surrounds your heart. And as the you lay down fat on the interior wall of the blood vessels and the exterior wall
of the blood vessels, limiting their movement, their excursion, you lose elasticity tissue, especially as you put on visceral fat. And as you lose weight, the visceral fat doesn't come off that easy. You mostly take off the subcutaneous fat more effectively than you
take off visceral fat. And then you gain weight. You can only gain subcutaneous
fat at a certain rate, so your body puts on
a lot of visceral fat. So as you lose weight and gain again and lose weight and regain again, you shift fat more viscerally,
which is more saturated, which is more cholesterol-producing, which is more cancer production and more heart disease-producing, as our fat becomes more visceral. What I'm saying to you right now is that dieting is dangerous and we have to encourage
our patients to eat to live. We have to encourage our patients
to eat to prevent cancer, to eat to heart disease and to change, to make dietary changes that they maintain for the rest of their life. We're eating for great health. And the side effect is we
gravitate towards an ideal weight because we eventually desire less calories as we keep improving
the nutritional quality of what we eat. Now, the formula, if you wanna
gain weight, is 2S plus O. So if you wanna put weight on, then you should eat a lot of
sugar, salt and sweeteners. Sweeteners, like sugar, salt,
and oil, have us gain weight. What you're learning from me is that when you take in
marshmallows and white bread, and there's not significant difference between white bread and
marshmallows, it's the same thing. Sugar rushes into the
bloodstream very rapidly. And when the sugar rushes in rapidly, the body registers that flux
of calories like a bolus, like a bolus is when a doctor
injects the medications in a needle or in a drip
that goes in all at one time, as opposed to hanging a bag and having the medications
drip in at a little drop, taking like eight hours to go into you, it comes in all at once. When the calories is in all at once, they have a stimulating effect
on dopamine in the brain, like you snorted cocaine
or took an opiate, and the brain doesn't differentiate what the cause of the stimulation is, it just registers the stimulatory effect, and over time it makes you
wanna desire more food. And over time you become
more dopamine insensitive and you desire more ice
cream and more pizza and more food and more burgers and more, you want more and more
and larger amounts of food 'cause of this dopamine
stimulation of the brain. And that's the first phase
of the addictive cycle, is the excessive stimulation
of dopamine in the brain, especially by sweeteners and oils. Because when you eat vegetable oils, the calories are absorbed so rapidly. They say from three to
five minutes of absorption, that means from the lips to
the hips in three minutes flat. And then you're exercising and not eating, that doesn't come, you don't
take fat off your body. You use up the glycogen
stores, preferentially, in your liver and your muscle tissue. Fat stores come off secondary after most of your glycogen is gone. And most people are eating so frequently that they're never taking fat off. What I'm telling you right now is the chronic use of oil in the diet inhibits the loss of body weight. So constantly pouring
olive oil over your food makes it almost impossible
to get your extra weight off. And soybean oil use has
increased 1,000 fold since 100 years ago. What I'm saying right now too, is that 100 years ago, when
we didn't use processed oils and all these sugars and processed foods, one in 100 Americans were mentally ill. One in 100. Now we have one in five
Americans who are mentally ill. And the drive between
processed foods and fast food and mental illness is very solid. Matter of fact, the consumption
of commercial baked goods like bagels and croissants
and pizza and fast food is linked to mental illness
in a dose-dependent fashion. So that even depression,
your risk of depression, goes up about 50% of life
in risk of depression just from the two servings a week of commercial baked goods or fast food. Did you follow that? Almost all of America. All these people in fast food
and commercial baked goods three to seven times a week, or more, how come not all depressed? Well, they are. They're not totally depressed,
but they have dysthymia. In other words, the whole population has an epidemic of this dysthymia, which means they're not really depressed but they're not too
excited about life either. They're easily angered. They have a very flat affect. They're not too thrilled about life. And they live either to
eat, to drink, to snort or whatever they're doing. They're not enjoying their life. And not creatively having fun, play and really thinking about
what they can do for humanity, how they can further their own abilities, how they can enjoy and the
aesthetic structure of the world and care for and nurture
other people's wholeness, wellness, and emotional well-being. They're not interested in that anymore. They're just serving themselves because the more you're addicted, the more selfish and
self-centered you become as you just live to strive for your own personal addictive satisfaction. Addiction is an ethical dilemma, too. And overeating and living on junk food and being addicted to food takes away a person's personality. The people aren't the
people they could've been. They're a mere shadow of themselves. The more you eat junk
food and the more you eat highly glycemic carbohydrates, you destroy brain cells
a little bit at a time and you become dumber
and dumber and dumber. And then you get elected president. All right, high-volume foods. Raw vegetables, cooked greens, fresh fruits, mushrooms,
eggplant, tomatoes. These foods take up a lot
of space in your stomach. Your stomach can only feed a
liter of food in there, right? You can't put that many
calories in at one time. 400 calories. Or you can put like 4,000
calories of food in your stomach, 4,000 calories of chicken
or meat in your stomach, but you can't fit that
much vegetables in there. When you eat a diet high
in vegetables, in beans, in mushrooms, in onions,
in melons, in oranges the space occupying, but
also the stretch receptors and the nutrient receptors are stimulated and you desire less calories. It's impossible to be overweight if you're eating all
the nutrients you need and all the right kind of
foods are in your diet. And that's how I figured out, with a lot of years of scientific
thought and contemplation, that Skipper never really
lived on that island. So to avoid overeating
on high-calorie food, we wanna fill up on nutrient-rich foods. 'Cause we have stretch receptors, we have nutrient receptors, the fibers are broken down by bacteria, we have receptors for butyrate, we have all types of
triggers that keep our, your appestat in control. You're not without any
friends here or partners in getting you at a favorable weight. Your body wants to be at favorable weight. You just have to eat the healthy foods and stay away from these
fast foods like sugar and white flour and white rice and oil, and get most of your carbohydrates from foods that contain fiber and slowly digestible
carbohydrates like in beans. If we score a carbohydrates on a hierarchical scale of quality based on how much slowly
digestible starches they have and how much resistant starches in there and how much fiber is in there, that beans and lentils
win the prize by a mile, because they're carbohydrates,
they're absorbed so slowly that they don't require excess insulin. They make us feel full. And you know what? All those resistant starch calories aren't even biologically
accessible to the body. Let me just explain this for a minute. That when you see 100 calories a cup or 100 calories of beans,
it's actually a half a cup, but when you see 100 calories
of beans marked on the label those 100 calories
don't all come into you. You feel like you ate 100 calories. It ratcheted down your
appetite by 100 calories. But because some of those
calories are resistant starch, those calories get turned by bacteria into short-chain fatty acids that come out in the toilet
bowl that don't get absorbed because they converted so far
down in the digestive tract that they're no longer
biologically accessible. And you know what? When you eat nuts and seeds to
get you fat, instead of oil, same thing happens. Because instead of the oil is
100% biologically accessible, but when you eat nuts and seeds, the sterols and the stanols bind fat, and so strongly they bind that fat that a lot of those fat
calories get absorbed and goes into the toilet bowl. They don't even all come in. Sure, it ratcheted down your appetite by those 100 calories, but all those calories never
even came into the body. So it automatically and
moderately makes you calorically restricted. It makes it very hard to overeat when you're eating these correct foods. But now, when you eat
foods that do not contain a significant load of micronutrients, phytochemicals, antioxidants, you build up toxic waste products. And the primary waste products
we talk about the most are free radicals, like
reactive oxygen species that build up when we don't consume a diet with enough antioxidants
and phytochemicals. And the other toxin we talk
about a lot in healthcare are advanced glycation end products. Because the advanced
glycation end products are what build up and
may cause the diabetic to get nerve damage in their
legs, develop gastroparesis, to get kidney failure, to become blind; because we build up these
glycation end products that build up in ages
who are not diabetic. The body gets glucose type compounds that are attached to
our tissues and proteins that age us very rapidly, but the body doesn't allow that to occur. And it works chronically
to remove those toxins when we eat a healthy
diet and we don't overeat. So we build up these toxins that the body is always looking to remove. And of course, we get
toxins from eating fast food and processed foods and processed meats when we get barbecue, when we bake and cook things at high temperatures, especially when you cook
meats and you flame broil them or you barbecue them or you fry them, where you form heterocyclic amines and polyaromatic hydrocarbons. And, of course, they add
sodium benzoate to white bread, in this country at least. They don't add sodium
benzoate to white bread, McDonald's doesn't add it anymore 'cause they use the same
burger buns in Europe and they don't allow it in Europe. So they started taking sodium
benzoate out of their bread in the United States so they
wouldn't have to separate the two manufacturing facilities. But any kind of white bread
you buy in a supermarket has sodium benzoate in it. Like, our country has more
carcinogens in our food supply they do in other countries but they don't permit them as many. Like, in school rooms,
cafeterias across the world, most of the countries
don't allow processed meats 'cause they're a class one carcinogen by the World Health Organization. But we allow them in this country and we encourage them in the food plans. Our country is much more, more dangerous foods are
available, especially to children. But the point I'm making right now, as we're moving forward here, I'm saying there are two
phases to food addiction. One is the high-caloric rush
leading to the dopamine surge and dopamine insensitivity
driving us to overeat. And secondly is how ill we feel, shaky and weak and fatigued and anxiety and stomach cramping and
headachy from withdrawal from the toxins, particularly
reactive oxygen species in advanced glycation end products. So what I'm saying right now is that there are two phases
of the digestive cycle. The anabolic phase, while we're
eating and digesting food. And that's when the body's
busy taking calories in and we're not in a detox mode. We're in an anabolic
phase of building things or putting things into the body. It's when digestion ceases
and is completely finished, in the catabolic phase. When the body is burning off
the calories that was stored, that's when the body could
most effectively detoxify and repair and heal and
that's when the body removes metabolic waste and toxins like these free radicals
we're talking about. And that's when the person feels
shaky and weak and fatigued in the non-digestive phase. And they think that that
non-digestive phase, which I call the catabolic phase, they feel uncomfortable when
they hit the catabolic phase and they think those symptoms are hunger 'cause people think that feeling
weak and tired is hunger. That's not hunger. You're detoxing from your junk food diet. And they're so uncomfortable
with those detox symptoms they have to look for food. It makes them chronically overeat. It makes them unable
to beat, even tolerate not digesting food for
a little bit of time. It's like filling up
your car with gasoline at the gas station, driving it one mile and refilling it with another 20 gallons or something like that. You didn't need more gas. It's not gonna go back
into the tank anyway. There's no room in the
tank to put the gas. But with the body, your body will expand, it'll accommodate more calories and you can keep overfeeding itself. So take a look at this slide for a second, because I'm saying the anabolic phase, the glucose curve is going up, right? And then when the curve
goes back to baseline and you stop digesting calories, that's when your body can more
effectively repair and heal. I am saying that the longer
you live in the catabolic phase of the digestive cycle,
the longer you live. I'm saying that when you're
chronically eating all the time and putting food in your
mouth 24 hours a day, you're shortening your lifespan because you need period of
time without food coming in for your body to maximize
its repair mechanisms and to remove build up of
excesses in waste products. But most Americans can't stop eating because they hit the catabolic phase and they feel shaky and
weak and hypoglycemic because their body is so toxic. And they think the answer
to their hypoglycemic is more tuna fish, more egg whites, more cheese and more meat. 'Cause more cocaine and more snorting and more cigarettes makes you feel better, but feeling better and getting better. Feeling better is getting worse. Feeling worse is getting better. If I'm talking too fast, let me know. But I gotta get a lot of
information out in an hour and I wanna get you this information. So, of course, what I'm saying right now is that going through the catabolic phase, in the first two-thirds
of the catabolic phase, you're not burning much fat. You're mostly utilizing the
stored glycogen in your liver. You're mostly burning more fat towards the last third
of the catabolic phase when your glycogen
reserves start to go down. So if you're constantly eating food and constantly putting
stuff in your mouth, you're not gonna get to
those, that fat burning. And a person who's healthy and they're a regular person
who eats beans and greens and vegetables and
berries and seeds and nuts and they eat a lot of
healthy, natural foods, they're not gonna feel any
hunger in the catabolic phase, they're gonna feel nothing. You're not gonna feel
hungry, which is felt really in the upper part
of the chest and neck, lower part of the neck. It's a pleasurable sensation
that makes food taste good and you want not to eat
until you're hungry. In other words, hunger
is a precise computer directing you to the
exact amount of calories to maintain your lean body mass. Hunger doesn't exist to
cause you to gain weight. You can't put fat on your body
from responding to hunger. In order to become fat,
you have to have eaten outside of the demands of true hunger. Do you understand that? You're eating because of toxic hunger, because of emotional eating, because of recreational eating. But it wasn't hunger that
drives fat on the body. That's a mistake in the
medical or in the textbooks. True hunger signals do not drive fat. Only false or toxic hunger
signals drive fat storage. Because real hunger just exists
to prevent gluconeogenesis, which is the breakdown of
muscle tissue to make amino, to make glucose for the brain. The brain needs to function on glucose. And it can't break down
fat to get glucose, it has to break down muscle
tissue to get glucose. But the body that wants to
conserve its muscle tissue, so it'll start to be hungry, real hungry, before it starts to get there. Hunger is protective against
muscle and bone loss. It doesn't start to make you just eat willy-nilly for no reason. Toxic hunger, on the other
hand, leads to overeating. People can't go without
eating for even a few hours after digestion ceases. And they go from one eating
occasion to a next all day long. They eat late at night. They could wake up in the
middle of the night to eat even. But a person who's healthy
doesn't wanna chronically eat. A person brings this delicious
tasting soup into my office and they say, "Hey, Joel, I
made this great soup for you. "You gotta try it. "It's really healthy. "It's really great. "This recipe is great." And I'll say, great, thank you. Let me put it in my refrigerator, though, and I'll eat it when I'm hungry. I don't wanna eat it right now, because when I'm hungry is
when I really enjoy it fully. 'Cause one of the symptoms of hunger is heightened sensations of taste. So the hunger brought throat sensation, accompanied by increased taste sensation. Toxic hunger, on the other hand, is associated with headache and weakness and stomach cramping and
growling and irritability, moody, right? That's toxic hunger. That's not real hunger. Real hunger is not that
uncomfortable; it's moderate. It's mostly associated with a sensation in your neck and throat
and increased salivation and a dramatic heightened taste sensation. So to get rid of toxic hunger,
you have to eat healthfully. Diets don't work. That's like telling people
to breathe less oxygen. You can't just tell a person to cut back on calories willy-nilly. You have to give them a diet
that is high in nutrients and volume so they're
losing their toxic hunger and desire to overeat. And animal protein and sugar
and high-glycemic carbs and caffeine feed toxic hunger, because they lead to withdrawal. Look, if you're drinking
10 cups of coffee a day and you try to stop coffee, are you gonna feel better or worse? Worse. That's detoxification. But those detoxification
symptoms simulate hunger, because you feel shaky
and weak and headachy and it's relieved by eating food. Your caffeine withdrawal is
mitigated by eating calories. People live to stimulate themselves and they get very confused
about how the body works. I can give you a drug to
make your heartbeat slower, but I can give you a herbal
product or a natural product to make your heartbeat
slower, your heartbeat faster, to urinate more, urinate less, to put you to sleep, to wake you up. But the pharmacologic or the efficacy of the medicinal part of
these natural compounds are the toxicity, the
toxic part of the plant that has these effects, not the nutritive part of the plant. We're looking to live in
a manner to avoid the need for medicinal substance,
natural or otherwise. I can give you broccoli. There's no medicinal
substance in broccoli. It doesn't make you feel better. It doesn't make you feel stronger. It doesn't give you more energy. It does nothing to you. You following me? You're feeling great all the time because you don't wanna
stimulate the body, you're not looking to stimulate the body. You wanna be able to be in touch with the amount of sleep you need. You don't wanna take caffeine
or stimulants to make, so you don't feel when you're tired. You wanna know when you're tired. When you listen to the body
without the use of stimulants, or natural substances, to try to change the expression of symptoms, that's when you're in good health. We wanna have less dependency
on health professionals. Not more dependency. We wanna be in control of
our health destiny ourselves. This study, The Changing
Perceptions of the Hunger Study published in 2010 show
that these individuals, who follow this nutritarian
diet, high in vegetables, this high-vegetable, high-plant diet show that their perception of
hunger changed and lessened. So they weren't as hungry, losing their addictive drives to overeat and they became desirous
naturally of less calories. Here's a study published in 2012, where they show that people
who followed a nutritarian diet and high in vegetables and
beans and nuts and seeds had lost an average, if
their BMI was above 25, if they were in that, or above
30 in that higher category, they lost an average of 50 pounds or more as the years progressed too. They continued to lose weight
in year one and year two. So here's what I'm saying here. Number one, all of America's
overweight by the way. The whole population is overweight. So what do you, health professionals, how many people, at what
percent of the population do you think is overweight? - 70?
- 70, okay. The American health authorities told us it was 66% five years ago and three years ago they told us it was 70% of Americans were overweight. Do you think I agree with that? No, I don't. Because they use a BMI
of 25 demarcation line between overweight and normal weight. And all long lived
societies, all blue zones, have BMIs below 23 at most. More centenarians,
always generally a blue, have BMIs below 22 and a half, if we use 23 as a generous
BMI of demarcation line. Now we defined 89% of
Americans as being overweight, no longer 70% passed by the
U.S. health authorities. And also, look at that 11% of people that are normal weight in
America, so-called normal weight. What about them? Do we scrutinize that population? The majority of them are
cigarette smokers and alcoholics. The majority of them either
have autoimmune conditions or called cancers or digestive disorders or they smoke cigarettes mostly because those are the
population that are thin because they have some illness
that's keeping them thin. They're not healthy people, the people that are normal weight. If they were healthy, they
would've become overweight like everybody else. Because you can't live
on the American diet and not become sickly and
overweight and destroy your life. It's suicidal. How many people here have
been shot by a bullet or stabbed by a knife? Raise your hand. Shot by a bullet. I have a better idea. What about your family or
your close family members or personal closest friends
either been shot by a bullet or stabbed by a knife, raise your hand. Okay, not even one person? Wow. Oh, right here. Okay, thank you. All right, how many here,
family members, close family or closest friends been
either have a cancer diagnosis or a heart attack or a
stroke, raise your hand. That's the neighborhood you
gotta get out of right away. Run away from that neighborhood
right now and get out. You follow me? That's insanity. Insanity. Doing what other Americans do. You gotta be crazy to
eat food like America. Your brain's under attack. We know that fast foods
and processed foods lower intelligence. We know that as children
eat fruits and vegetables, they're more intelligent. We know that we get that
fast food and processed food link to autism. Well, even when the mother eats the food, not just during pregnancy but even her life before
she gets pregnant, more fast food and junk from the mother, more allergies, autism, childhood cancers, and other problems in brain
tumors in her offspring. We're destroying the
fabric of our genetic code by this fast food and processed
food revolution, right? Work performance, attention
deficits, hopelessness, the episodic glucose damages brain cells. And when you're diabetic and overweight, you have a higher risk of depression and higher risk of dementia. Yeah, we have kid here. Our children go to baseball
game or a soccer game and they sit there holding
the glove in the field for the 10 minutes and
they come off the field and the mothers are giving
them donuts to reward them. It's unbelievable. And who is the biggest objectors, the people fighting against, we're trying to get junk food
out of the school systems but the people who are
opposing that are the mothers, who are the food addicts themselves. Because when you're a food
addict, when you're an addict, you've lost the keys to the bank. You know what I mean by that? Your primitive brain is
controlling your behavior. Your addictions control your behavior. Your decision-making is impaired because your decisions are affected to try to retain and make excuses for and not consider the
effects that addiction has on your behavior. We're poisoning our children. We already discussed processed
food cause depression. And you get withdrawal anxiety and withdrawal depression
from processed foods. So this slide says that people
who have a mental illness consume 69% of the nation's alcohol and 84% of the nation's cocaine. But I'm saying, the opposite is true. I'm saying, when you're
consuming processed foods even eventually junk food and baked goods, you're more likely to
become dependent on alcohol and opiates and drugs and cocaine because they can destroy the brain and make you more looking
for brain stimulation, the more you get addicted
to processed foods. And the gateway drug to
more serious drug use is fast food and sugar and
processed foods and fried foods. You have to be insane
to eat fast food, right? So the brain's under attack. And there's a link between crime in the consumption of candy
and sugar in the diet. For example, this British study show that children who had the
most candy consumption, who had a lot of candy and
sugar before the age of 10, were the ones who developed,
become violent criminals. If they had a high intake of
sugar and candy before age 10, they had a 69% chance of being arrested for a violent offense by age 34. Stunning. Isn't that amazing? When people are shooting up nightclubs or shooting up schools,
who's talking about the fact that they burnt out their brains and become mentally angered and violent because of their consumption
of junk food and fast food? Nobody's talking about this stuff. The primitive brain, the addictive brain doesn't wanna change. It's fighting to maintain
its present addiction. Change promotes anxiety. And the subconscious mind
is looking for excuses that it doesn't have to change. Some of you are listening
to this and enjoying it and getting a lot of information from it. But some of you, food addicts out there, your brain is trying to resist
the information and saying, a lot of people will say,
oh, it sounds very good, but it's not for me. For somebody else. For me, my social life would be hurt, I can't eat that way if I work, it's too difficult 'cause of my friends, my life is too stressful. In other words, the food addict always, or the smoker, for example, the cokehead, they always come up with some
excuses and rationalizations why the change or the
process won't work for them. Do you follow me? There's always a reason to fall back into their addiction again. There's no reason for
you to go back and forth to your addiction again. Those excuses of your primitive brain, your primitive brain doesn't love you. It's not trying to help you. It wants to sustain its own addictions. The real cerebral you that loves you is, look at yourself 20 years from
now, look back today and say, did I make the right decision
back then for my life? When I look back at those 10 years and did I really take
better care of myself, like full mental faculties today? Are you gonna consume marshmallows, white bread, donuts, pizza? Are you gonna keep shoving
garbage in your mouth, right? Or not. Are you gonna stop after that? Are you gonna stop? Use your full cerebral brain. And that means that you need guidance, support, encouragement. Some people need to be a way
in a cocaine rehab center or food rehab. Some people need help
with their loved ones. If my daughter was a heroin
addict or a cocaine addict, let's say, I would keep
her chained to my arm for months to make
sure, I wouldn't let her just go out in the world and get cocaine. If you had a friend or
somebody you care about, you wanna make sure they get, they have a chance to get
rid of their addictions. And they need love and
help to save their lives from the addictive nature
of processed foods. Eric Clapton, he admitted that sugar was his gateway drug to heroin. But now we have people on drug addicts who come off their alcoholics and drugs and go to eating sugar and donuts, right? This guy says heroin was his gateway drug. Overeating is an ethical dilemma. It takes away people's desire to be the full human
being they can become. You can't change your
desire to overeat calories and be a food addict unless
you work on improving yourself. Because if you don't have self-esteem, then you're gonna be affected
by how people are seeing you. And in today's processed food environment, with everybody else
committing suicide with food, you're not trying to please them and try to fit into the
crowd of eating junk food. You gotta put the oxygen
mask on yourself first and be a role model to get well. And what I'm saying here is
that I'm gonna try to impart superpowers on people,
to give you superpowers. The real superpowers we need
are the superpowers to heal our people who are suffering terribly of these medical tragedies
that are killing their lives and causing immense amount of suffering. And those are the
superpowers we all can have. That means taking care of your own health and being an example of excellent health is the starting point so
you can be a role model and have the power and the
knowledge to impart good health and affect other people in positive way. And you can't do that unless you take care of your own health first. And if you're not gonna eat healthfully and take care of your own health, then you can't be the mother,
the best mother you can be, the best teacher you can be,
the best doctor you can be, or the best friend you can be. You can't be the full human being with the full humanity and abilities and powers that you can be
unless you're eating healthfully and taking care of your
own health and being and being an example of good health. We have guests come into my facility with drug food addiction. And they stayed there
for two or three months. They're angry. They're coming off their
alcohol or cigarettes, or whatever's happening to them. They were annoyed by every little thing. Their personalities
changed after a few months. They become happier and
more excited about life and they start to appreciate
the beauty of natural foods. When they look at that passion fruit, and they say, these are
the most gorgeous food and it's so tasty and
it's so held in nature, put all these super
ingredients right in there to protect my brain. And they start to appreciate this aesthetic structure of reality and they start to think
more kindly of other people and how they can help other people. And their whole personalities
and all excitement about enthusiasm and creativity
starts to become enhanced and they start to look at
the beauty around them. And it's amazing how
people's personalities change to be happier, more normal
and be more fulfilled and better human beings when they get rid of their addictions and
start eating healthier. And it takes time. And to get better and to get well, you have to have a mindset of a champion. You have to encourage people. That this is gonna be
difficult at the beginning. There have to be
determination and perseverance and they have to repeat
over and over again and practice this and just do it right. When a person comes to me in my office, they sit across the
table and I say to them that there were diabetes and psoriasis, and I say to them, look, are
you just here to get drugs or to get a little better or lose weight, or you really want to totally
get rid of your diabetes and become non-diabetic, get off your blood pressure medications, get completely rid of your
psoriasis and get totally well? What do you want from me? Do you want me to pick out all the stops and get totally better
and get free of illnesses, or you just want me to give you drugs and watch, and talk to you
about, what do you want? They say, yeah, yeah,
yeah, give me everything. I want everything to do. I wanna do the whole thing. I wanna get totally well. I'll say, okay, then
look, this is what you do. You don't decide what to eat. You don't figure out
how much you wanna eat, what you wanna eat, what
you think you should eat, what you like to eat, none
of those things matter. You're just gonna eat
what I tell you to eat. I'm gonna make all
those decisions for you, whether you like it or
not, whether you think, just do what I tell you to do. But I promise you that
you'll eventually like it and you'll get such incredible results. Combination with improving
your taste and your smell, and maybe even your sight. But you'll start to love this food once you learn the recipes and once you've give it months to strengthen your taste buds, but you have to get rid of all the foods you're eating right now in order to strengthen the taste buds and you have to do it right now whether you like it or
not and give this time. It's like Roger Federer, the greatest tennis player in the world. He didn't just suddenly run around, hitting that perfect stroke with his hips in the right place, with his hands coming back, with his elbow coming across the shoulder. He spent years and years of being, doing this same movement over
again in getting position. No, get your elbow higher. No, push off the back toe. No, bend you knee in front
of you a little more. No, straighten your back leg. No, twist your hip. He got great coaching. He had to have the determination
and the perseverance and the patience to
not to be such a great, to not worry about where the ball went, to make sure that he had
the stroke down perfect. And now he can run around the court and do the perfect motion
automatically without thinking. He has that like $100
million arm just lifts up. It's the same thing here. This is all about being
skilled as a motivator and a teacher. And every doctor should be
running classes and lectures in their offices where motivating
their patient population to take better care of their health, not just seeing patients one at a time and just dishing out medication. They should be coming in for group lessons and group classes and get
together in motivating people and have social support. We have to change this path of medicine. And when a person gets up here
on the stage and says to you, we have to teach doctors about nutrition, I'm going, what, we
don't wait 'till a person gets to be going to a
doctor with medical problems and then to learn about nutrition. The doctors don't have
to learn about nutrition. It's what has to be taught
in the school rooms. We need everybody, our whole population, to become expert in nutrition. The teachers, the
celebrities, the politicians, the librarians, the truck driver, everybody has to learn about nutrition. It should be reading, writing, arithmetic, and nutritional excellence, because our society is being ravaged and destroyed by this, by the lack of nutritional information. The nutritarian eats a wide
variety of high-nutrient plants, like G-BOMBS, greens,
beans, onions, mushrooms, berries and seeds, foods with
high anti-cancer potential. The nutritarian gets rid
of the empty calories, sweeteners, white flours, processed foods; gets rid of the oils and
animal products in their diet. Or occasionally uses those
as little as possible, of things that are not
in your best interest. The prescription here is
either large salad every day, to have at least an ounce or
two of nuts and seeds a day, to eat half a cup of beans at least a day, to eat a large serving of
cooked vegetables a day too, not just raw vegetables,
actually even cooked and raw, to eat a variety of mushrooms
and onions in your diet, to eat at least three fresh fruits a day. Get the full variety of natural
plant foods in your diet, because when you have the
full orchestra playing of all those different
nutrients and fibers, you get the full anti-cancer
benefits of a diet. Now when you start out as a white belt, you try to eat healthy. You feel worse, you don't feel better. You're getting on toxic hunger, right? People feel worse when
they start this out. If they don't know this,
they're never gonna succeed. If they don't know that
they're not gonna feel better when they start doing this,
they're not gonna like it and they're gonna feel ill all the time. It's after they're doing
it a while, a yellow belt, an orange belt, a brown
belt and a black belt, they desire to eat this food the most. This is the food they prefer to eat. This is the food they
love to eat at this point. And if they try to eat
something unhealthy, they feel crappy. I don't have time to go over
these different levels here at how it happens 'cause I
wanna show you a few cases. Here's Scott, who lost over 300 pounds, who kept losing weight
when he no longer wanted to lose weight anymore. His final weight was actually
175, not one 182, we thought. But he stays with the program. He's just enjoying eating this way. And Ronnie, who had bypass
surgery four years later, had triple angioplasty
after his bypass surgery, look at him there in July of 2008. On Lipitor 20 with an LDL of 148. Look at him on there a year later, off Lipitor with an LDL of 78 with almost no oxidized LDL, right? His blood pressures couldn't
come down on three medications, but there he is a year
later off medication, right? Lost over 140 pounds in one year, over 140 of scaling,
went up to 300 pounds. Going through these cases, look at Emily who lost about 100 pounds in a year. I want you to look up at her face and see when she no longer depressed and allergic and sickly. Look at how much younger. The tone of her skin,
the color of her skin. These nutrients penetrate the skin and have protective effects
against skin cancer. Oh, that was my last slide. So we're saying here that my time is up. But not your time. With this information
that you can take home, learn more and start
incorporating into your life. And the first thing I want you to do is see how you can improve
your own diets right now and see if you could start to utilize nutritional excellence to get
rid of the fear in your life, get you the freedom you need
to live life to your fullest, to expand your play spend, your happiness and your enthusiasm about living 'cause that's what this is all about. Be more excited about living, getting rid of the fear and recognizing that we have a body that's
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