Nuclear Self Destruction (Pro League 2v2 Semi Finals) - Forts RTS [171]

[Music] here on the left hand side we have eaton and geiger facing off against their opponents on the right hand side we have felix and lanson shield yeah four well-known names from the fourth community felix and lanson having a bunch of trophies after their names ai tournament victories and map making tournament victories but the new upcoming guys in the achievement hunting is on geiger eaton winning two seasons of ranked game play one after another and he is also contender for the third one in a row so we can never underestimate the guys and geiger already also a super high level top three uh player in ranked ladder so their combo is just just outstanding in terms of apm in terms of sheer skill capabilities yeah i would give the brains to to team red in this uh uh match up but certainly the micro management and the apm is on on the blue side blue blue side for sure all right well we we see some interesting tactics out of these players so far uh looks like we have a mortar and swarm rush out of blue team here on the left hand side this is a combo we don't often see but can be devastating just because mortars and sore missiles they require a slightly different response so it can be difficult to defend against both and yet both are fully capable of ending the game but interesting uh bass setup by eaton yes connecting these are full full rush these are not these are bases that are not meant to be uh not meant to be hit at all they are just full on aggression but the right hand side is got a different strategy it looks like they're playing support with warhead behind which we have seen before but rather than go armory support we have mini young support which is far less common i'm curious to see how it's gonna work out uh the miniguns may actually come in to be mvp here as neither player from team one is really capable of defending against them yeah he just have to survive the initial blows from those walkers and [Music] and silos but he's already losing one of the minigunners because the base is quite tilted forward lost two that's rough that's very rough looks like we have some player comments about the terrain i think that may uh shall i pause or some not something significant uh they aren't typing again so i think we're good to go oh yo i mean yeah i mean uh probably it's because of felix uh colliding with the terrain yeah uh player everyone should know that vanilla large got updated since we last played on it but uh giving the history of playing on this version of the map in the tournament we we kept this version and didn't update for the new one ah that makes sense the new one is is balanced in a way that the terrain may not collide where uh felix just lost his minigunner but the first uh missile shielded nuke going through for lansing doing actual core damage on eaton's side indeed not only did it do core damage but eaton doesn't have the income to fully repair that it's a little bit rough for him we have firebirds coming out from team blue so that's a lot of stuff that can cause fire it's all about those hits from lance's shield if he can eliminate ethan uh basically they won the game but it's it's also true in reverse if they can eliminate felix the game is over these are four paper forts with uh with big guns on them and whoever dies first do this that i i can't think of any better way to say that that is exactly what's happening here all these players are going all aggression and just trying to spend their apm and convert it into longevity for their forts yes they all uh leave in their apm and their capability to defend with less resources than optimal some machine is nicely taken out by a felix's mini gunners so now lanson has the possibility to shoot i don't think he has the energy supply to do it speaking of energy supply those turbines are going away oh here comes the fire and a warhead yeah oh and he doesn't that honestly that could have been a lot worse for felix indeed he was quite lucky to survive that for sure yeah now lansing has the possibility to shoot but now geiger's anti-air is back up so i don't think that could reach oh just about a little bit more ap sniping might see might see that anti-air go away and then the nuke land out of lansing shield but blue team trying to land those same shots this is just uh this is just a slog fest down and dirty more missiles launching huge timing by felix and lanson the beautiful manual anti-air tapping that warhead sending it right back down into the core that's that's highlighted yeah that's that's a game winning and possibly turning the tides in a close series that's that those are the plays that are changing these high level games not not exactly the the casual type of stuff just these these small details small timings even using the buzz saw to defend against the warhead yeah in the earlier stages we saw some cannon antier too it was awesome honestly i think it was geiger geiger who uh on the on the caverns map he was left alone and defended against four nukes with two cannons he was just precise with those shots okay the firebird knew coming out and i don't think that felix has the angle but everything spammed in the front of his sport manages to keep him alive a little bit of fire damage geez the miniguns miniguns are extremely good anti-air if they have the angle which is a big if yeah with small doors it's even harder but we'll see eaton he's trying i think felix and lance they really they've just sustained so much damage that they're not they're not trying to burn down their opponent too quickly now they're just expanding they're just stabilizing themselves before pushing uh they get a nuke to land and it helps but it's not a lethal hit and they're not trying to push for lethal afterward geiger was the one who had all the anti-air so that's a double basically a double elimination for for felix and lanson because no anti-air makes ethan so vulnerable for uh for those nukes indeed they're picking away with mini gunners yeah lance and felix they're not they're not going for the kill just yet super funny thing is i see now in chat that kronk is saying uh lansing i am blessing your nuke go get it through and that's gonna be it probably yes ap sniper straight into the core and felix and lansen they game one in a convincing manner in 10 minutes and we're off go ahead and take away our introductions thank you incursus and we have the upsetting victory from felix and lanson against the apm kings in the first game now we have changed sides felix and lanson on the blue side in up and down and geiger and ethan trying to crawl back into the series by taking on the enemy on the red side it's gonna be an interesting map this was probably the most played in the regular season this is a kind of player favorite map everyone has their own strategy we could see that in the other semi-final uh mathematical had their their own strategy really worked to the the precision on this map so i would expect nothing less from geiger and ethan to show us some close to perfect gameplay i think this is probably my favorite 2v2 map it's just got so many things you can do without opening up the uh the rabbit hole of adding an extremely high amount of economy you have vanilla like economy levels you have a hanging bases you have standing bases and your bases aren't so close that it dictates that you have to go rockets they aren't so far away that you have to go heavy weapons it enables everything without not having too much of any one particular thing that's i think makes for a very good map here ethan is playing with super high efficiency selling his starting connections to the ground to be able to put down his minds earlier than the curve indeed that's something you don't usually see uh i see that eden has gone for a very redesigned base uh including selling off a lot of his metal and internal structures so that he can get the behind the base the rear fans as the back fans he's has sold off a lot of his foundations the hanging bases are super stable so that you you can get away with that and it doesn't enable you to get a little extra eco but here's the thing using the early pressure of the basa sniper combo exposing one of the one of the emps and delaying the rush and basically halving its strength on the felix side very good play looks like those rockets are gonna be completely shut down i think i think team two was very well aware they may be they may even be spooked here which may be uh maybe how they've known to go for what they are going for i do want to talk about the strategies it looks like team one is going for the the same kind of support and nuke style that we've seen oh so commonly uh but this time they did they did open rockets and did nothing with them they got almost completely shut down immediately one rocket hit there is not going to be the difference see if that warhead lands nope warhead completely shut down yeah manually fired flack is just too strong against the warhead yeah a lot of people will say things i've seen a lot of players comment about oh warheads and missiles and such too hard to deal with because the automated anti-air is just not good enough but then you see players here at the higher end of the bracket manually controlling their anti-air and completely shutting shutting down things like rockets and nukes eaton really going down low to bring out that machine gun nest yeah there they have to rely heavily on that new kids the wood and build up by geiger very nicely done defend it i'm always curious like lance and shield is not targeting eaton with his uh with his heavy with his nuke here i'm curious as to why not as you see a base like eaton's here he's got missing foundations he's got missing internal bracing these are things that leigh team knows they can see that the foundations are not connected they can see that he has rear turbines which indicates that he doesn't have defenses around his core his base is not as structurally stable as it would normally be so that generally indicates that's generally a a cue to go immediately hit it with a nuke because it's not gonna be as defensible it's not gonna survive and yet they're firing at geiger rather than eaten oh that's a heavy hit oh and the core slides down and it's gone yeah huge hits from uh from team one side they just couldn't finish geiger on top as you mentioned they chose uh probably the wrong uh target the piecemeal disassembly all those turbines going away cannons they just work yeah they are probably the most reliable damage search source in the game probably besides i mean lasers they are also quite reliable yes lasers are reliable although they do suffer from the oh they're not even team two is not even trying to go for the core they're going for eco they're go they're taking out all the extremities and expansions and they're just going to starve him out which it's an extr that's the way to do it if you want to guarantee victory a careful slow approach look at that they already took out the mines once and they're going for the mines again oh that's aimed at the core yeah i i i would think that ethan and i are already talking about what they're gonna do the next map so this is just uh making a decisive victory in this game maybe dragging out a bit to make it sure that lanson has no way of coming back because until those those nukes are present there is a chance always but yeah if he has no uh resources to shoot them then uh it's a clean game indeed looks like he does have the income to repair for the moments that's uh that's going to change very quickly as those mines are getting getting attacked yeah he has to rebuild those connections to the ground sorry oh he's running out of money there it is lance and shield does not have the income to repair he's selling off a mine right now i think he's selling that one off to be able to connect to the to the to the ones up top yep there it is and the ones up top are about to get slammed no just going straight for the base and that's it yeah two cannons are enough to disconnect him from the terrain and that's it geiger and ethan coming back into the game too with a convincing victory and we're off ladies and gentlemen this series is tied one to one here on the left hand side we have eaton in the top base and geiger in the lower base already doing a whole lot of base base rearranging as as we expect and they are facing off against the red team on the right hand side it is felix and lance and shield felix taking the top base and lance and shield in the lower base for their team [Music] yeah nobody saw their initial uh minigunner and also nobody is really building a bottom uh the bottom side exposed turbines that's why i probably didn't see the shots earlier but geiger has some exposed ones so oh my yeah tip a lot of times i'm sorry i always i always enjoy the little mini gun shenanigan area that happens for those who are unfamiliar uh the mini guns in this match are really not capable of dealing damage to opponents but if the opponents decide to do something like build an exposed and undefended turbine then the midi guns can do something so very often it creates a scenario where the miniguns just get sold off because there's nothing for the other there's the opponents just they don't build things exposed so there's no reason to keep the minigun around you just sell it off to get yourself a quick little eco boost at the beginning of the game and move quickly toward whatever strategy you intended to go for that is basically what we've seen here however in this case no one decided to sell their miniguns but they also didn't have anything to shoot at so they're just sitting there blinking away at each other just because they wanted to oh wow yeah i was i just wait i just wanted to wait for you to finish your standards i was about to say we've seen this before or selected if you uh cleaned your house uh like ethan did with background racing if you open your door in the wrong time you can pretty much receive a huge chunk of core damage just because of the early early mini gunners that's the disadvantage of putting the turbines at the back and having to to background brace everything yeah i did not expect eaton to get hit there but alas without the core defense without the the default defenses his core was exposed he opened the door and he got shot he lost 17 percent off of this score which isn't all that much but it's uh but it's it's something to keep in mind looks like these strategies are revealed as they are being completed right hand side is going for the laser and swarm missile combo and on the other side we probably have scattershot 20s if i'm not mistaken they have the commander uh vetoed for their side and they are already placing 20s that could be some serious damage of course this is a strategy that requires requires a bit of coordination for their team they have to sync up their shots and their weapon cooldown times with their commander ability not too hard in the collaboration scale but it is going to be a bit more collaboration than is necessarily required by the other team i just got a flashback a deja vu from the second qualifier this was the final match up for the second qualifier but felix and lanson won i'm gonna continue after the salvos exposed uh firebeam and actually he loses the second one but the nuke hits on the other side huge damage on felix i don't think yeah i was gonna say felix he he got his uh weapon snipes that was not a good trade for red team red team taking the uh taking the loss in that exchange indeed this was the so this was the final one of the final games and it was also a scatter shot on ethan and geiger's side and they lost that game because of uh core damage oh ouch so uh yeah at the second half of that game felix and lanson had uh they know they knew that they have the core damage advantage and they just sat back and the 20s just weren't enough they they used some some energy shields and managed to mitigate the the pressure that came from oh the huge snipe actually doing board damage on geiger's side but felix loses his mind felix is getting bodied every time it's red team does damage blue team responds by dealing more damage this is what i mentioned that they are not afraid to shoot where it hurts and the bus starts here just supreme it's been surprisingly effective throughout this uh throughout this entire league so far at least all these matches here in the final day i wonder i just want to point out here eaton's base big wood such large amounts of wood just blocked out there it's it's no wonder he's not getting targeted by these by these missiles machine gunners manage the defense the anti-air taking out those nukes before they're able to land if i were lansing i would shoot maybe with less delay my my war had compared to the the besides because it seems that like the fire beam doesn't have the time the length to defend uh against the anti-air if the nuke comes so late yeah i feel like it's just too much delay oh and snipe again on felix's weapon that's brutal the missile is getting completely cleared out of the air and the cannons coming in with the retort not significant damage dealt but he felix did lose his fire beam once more making it uh making him toothless for the time being yeah eaton set up his manually fired flag and yeah even though geigerrand didn't have the map uh map control they still are behind in core damage that is true they have seven minutes before that becomes relevant oh this is what i would love to see earlier from lance and the simultaneous shots from the weapons no just the poor flag on the top of eden's base is getting focused no significant damage dealt just a little bit of uh deformation into the large wood boxes oh here comes the scatter shot active that could be it and so it is three scatter shot active in improved twenties they are just too much damage just way too way too concentrated way too uh high amount of damage i'm not sure what's the damage number actually if you combine all the shots from a 20 compared to a cannon uh it's more a lot more that's all i could say about it that's all i remember where is 42's uh excel table with the values i just got that pinned i could probably look it up yeah that's already like a meme like 42 like any any question we have the basically the answer related to any any force related question is very fairly too stable we can just look at it how much shots does it take to to kill a bastard with a sniper or or uh something like this yeah we just we just look at that it's such a useful tool honestly oh it really is wait do i not have this pinned what happened oh poor lanson yep that's gonna be it bye bye [Music] you

Channel: Project Incursus Gaming

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Length: 30min 37sec (1837 seconds)

Published: Sat May 01 2021