Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows - Caravan of Garbage

foreign ER garbage where we're doing two Ninja Turtles movies which came out not that long ago um recent memory if you can imagine such a thing I know all our memories have been destroyed by the last few years so maybe these these come out a decade ago well this was 2016. the year of Batman v Superman oh yeah that's right well if anything's gonna obliterate your memory that isn't it what else was there in the year 2016. great Point Piper color t-shirts slapper bands Rogue one Rogue one all of those things leave a like if you could because we are talking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Out of the Shadows which I believe would have been my favorite movie If I was eight years old and at the time you were I don't know 48 yeah okay so less less enthused about this one look it's got a turtle van that shoots manhole covers in its wings nunchucks yes for like you know 14 seconds Bebop and rockstead hearing it cranger's in it yeah yeah yeah a big weird Hollow technodromas in it yeah where's all the rooms in the Techno Joe Mason well like you get tenants and they fill in the rooms themselves okay they set up those like a Japanese apartment walls like thin ones they put those in yep yep yep then you set it up how you like that's a great boy I think it's definitely a better movie than the last one yeah I had a lot of fun with this one I still don't think it's great I don't think the Nostalgia elements of it are enough for me but there are some things in this that go beyond that like they build a relationship with the turtles and there's conflict between them the basic tenets of Storytelling they managed to sneak him in they have feelings and they want things that's right and they're less annoying I feel like though I know the reason why they're all fighting I don't think it's about wanting to be human or wanting to be accepted or you know they're not working together as a team because they're all so different I think it's because they're hungry all the time because they ordered a pizza in this to watch the basketball one pizza between four giant freaks just four enormous furnaces just four giant calorie furnaces either one pizza absolutely and when Mikey dropped one of his on the floor or whatever yeah you know he screwed up the big basketball game that's right yeah that presumably real famous basketball player slipped over and he was like oh I fell on my bottom that's right God embarrassing but uh you're right they're I mean the central conflict isn't really we don't work together as a team because this movie is just a series of scenes where they do work together as a team and then they slip up right at the end and then Leonardo's like wouldn't even work together as a team yeah we're better being a team we didn't fall out of that plane to catch on to the other plane and then fight a tank in a river well enough yeah well that's hard all right yeah not a lot of people could do that yeah that's actually you know the fact that you got 98 of the way there is actually pretty impressive you know how do you feel about Shredder in this bearing in mind that he immediately grew ahead of hair and a beard and also I don't know whether the fight at the end of the last movie did that heal him because he's got less scars after he fell out of that [ __ ] building uh-huh that he did before he fell out of the building that's a great Point can we blame mutagen yeah we can blame mood I think so yeah he probably fell in a face full of music there's probably so much mutagen in the New York Wastewater you can just dunk your face and it's I feel like though with shredder they over designed him in the last movie and he's too big and weird and covered in spikes and so now they've under-designed him yeah he's in like a leather motorcycle suit and a helmet he doesn't even really fight anybody in this it's not even a hint of purple to the suit you know what I mean disappointing which is interesting because there are there are so many nods to the classic 1980s cartoon you know and oh yeah name one other than the several we've already talked about Vern yeah Vern okay yeah that's right that's a good one Vern of the Falcon but yeah but they didn't go yeah give him a purple suit I like that actor yeah and I also appreciate that the Foot Clan here aren't just guys with guns they're Snake Eyes guys oh yes a bunch of snake guys that's absolutely right yeah yeah I mean here's a question though are they any better at fighting in this one than the last one well there's those two that break out of the police district and they give them a bit of a Runabout that's true but against the Ninja Turtles probably not no that's true they'd be killed and there's that guy that just Vern just slams into a shipping container in his head falls off or whatever yeah so they're not great no I don't know where he's recruiting these guys no well they're teenagers yeah yes and they're probably also learning Ninjutsu from the same book that splinter learn Ninjutsu from and they don't have his dedication so no quite frankly you're right yeah so is another Edition Mason from the original stuff uh Baxter Stockman as played by Tyler Perry Baxter Stockman is a good inclusion I guess Tyler Perry just just doing a weird performance yeah you know he's there because he he wants to be there because he probably made so much money off like his media character that he'd like he's just doing weird stuff because he you know Tyler Perry might be a billionaire it's very possible yeah yeah I'll tell you a great addition I love Bebop and Rocksteady in this they have a great supportive friendship yep and and it's hashtag friend goals as far as I'm concerned I completely agree they nailed those characters completely and they also make them formidable yes because in the original cartoon and in other versions you know not as much one time they caved in Donatello's head with like a sledgehammer that happened or whatever but their strength kind of gets them through in in battles yes you know they can be stupid but they love each other and they're having a good time that's true that's lovely when they are mixed up in that you know that whole skydiving from a plane to another plane and then the plane crashes and then they're falling in a river or whatever while the turtle's there like we didn't do enough teamwork they're like bro we nailed this yeah we nailed falling out of a play we nailed falling off of off the side of a waterfall or whatever this is great I completely agree what a time we've had but in addition I don't think they nailed here was Casey Jones oh yes it's just Stephen Amell sure I like Stephen Amell I think it's terrific he's a great Arrow he's a great another thing that he's in CW crisis on infinite Earth's crossover yes it is where he's the Specter that's a great example I think so I feel like here he's too clean and he's also too old so I feel like you either gotta go older and grubbier oh yeah like Elias courteous from the original movie or you go like like a teen okay yeah and it's just it's just a cop who's like I'm gonna be a detective I want to be a detective dude you're 38. you could be a detective wow you saying George Clooney got his first hit at like about the same age and you're saying this guy couldn't become a detective at 38 no no I'm saying that like that's a very realistic goal and you don't have to suck about it oh yeah that's just like he's talking about it like one day I'm when I'm big it's like you are big you're a man you're a big man have you seen have you seen yourself do those those chin-ups in arrows you see so you can hardly anybody can do that what I loved about this character is he's there when Shredder is broken out of prison out of the prison motorcade yeah by the Foot Clan and then he's being interviewed by the Police Superintendent played by Laura Linney and she's like okay so he was saying there were ninjas on motorcycles he's like yep she's like okay go on and he's like and then there was a garbage truck and she's like oh excuse me a garbage truck in New York City yeah somehow there at the time you're right he wasn't even like and it had nunchucks and there were big mutant turtles in it he says there was a garbage truck she's like I think we're gonna put your detective exam on hold the young man little boy and what's crazy about that is like he gets taken off the payroll and she's like you did a bad job he was the only one there who did anything everybody else like all the other men got blown up yeah are they taking off the payroll I think their family shouldn't get pensions Mason wow yeah wow they weren't doing their job the other guy in the car in the van did he die what happened to him that's a great question and how many of the people in this movie as like supporting actors or bystanders are Ninja Turtles creators yeah great Kevin Eastman is in this for a second I think he's the pizza guy yeah a guy it's interesting that like whenever you see a normal looking man in your life that's an artist Hollywood is too entrenched in every supporting character being played by like the most beautiful or handsome person in the world with Incredible ABS just seeing this movie where there's just some people with a bit of a punch or a bald spot I'm like that guy must be a comic book Rider no human being in Hollywood would look like that who let this real world person in this movie yeah but uh it's pretty cool at the end when he's fighting Bebop and Rocksteady and he improvs a set of rollerblades in a hockey stick that's right but it's like dude you look at Jones you start right you know but it's just a guy in a hoodie and a T-shirt and jeans it is faster that was maybe one of my favorite Parts where he just he was just looking through some rubble and he just found a just an L-shaped piece of metal that would work perfectly as a hockey stick I think that was great my favorite part was where he duct taped some wheels from a chair from a roller chair that's what it was at the bottom of his shoes I thought he opened a box and there was just like a series of half rollerblades in there to transport these half rollerblades we're gonna get them into the City and connect them with the other half of the roll of Lights absolutely well a big part of this though is getting pieces together because they're collecting pieces of the teleportation device oh yes the plot that's right the plot is here everybody everybody wave there it is Mason you're not waving oh hi the plot you're not really relevant but it's nice to see you it's never relevant anymore so one of the pieces is in a museum in a big alien rock yeah with a big switch on the side yeah yeah but nobody has ever pressed nobody's thought to push the switch maybe it's maybe it requires a certain finesse okay you know you know these Museum creators they're all just smashing on a thing they're just smashing on a button you're like settle down Museum creators that's right you know give it a little soft touch like that oh it's open up now the sector or something in there or whatever cranks in this yeah and he's very Brad Garrett and he's very wet absolutely it's a real good West Indies traditionally when you think of Brad Garrett you think of a very dry surface area don't you but they've they've moist maybe not their hair yeah that's true but yeah no you're right they've moistened him right up you know it's the wettest he's ever been the point of absurdity I think I feel like they had to make Krang massively oversized just in himself because the turtles are so big yes because it's normally like the size of like an ice cream container absolutely for taking him to school as as part of show and tell yeah brother crying yeah he's pretty cool well he's not cool he's pretty rude but he is from Dimension X you bought you brought him last week boo bring something else but that's fun I wish the the robot suit he is in was like more fleshy yeah okay you know more like the like the cartoon I wish that he had more interactions with shredder because some of my favorite stuff in that original cartoon is just them bumbling about yeah I kind of liked their their dynamic in this yeah that shred is being teleported away he assumes to safety and then he's just on crank ship it cranks like and Shredder's like oh and cranks like I'm touching you I'm gonna lick you what do you think you'll be as wet as I am oh don't stop oh no and that could have been that could have developed into something that could have been the whole movie could have been the entire movie let's get drive through oh you know just them doing stuff just having a day together but um yeah and it could have developed into something but then shredded just gets Frozen and put in a trophy case or whatever yep that's right I guess with the Assumption there'd be a Ninja Turtles 3 in this and they'd be back as a team yeah probably you're right and we will talk about that Mason let's also talk about acceptance okay because the turtles they're they're trying to accept themselves and have everybody else accept them be more like Bebop and rockstead exactly accepting there's a moment where all the police pull their guns on them they're like and the turtle's like oh no hmm have you forgotten your bulletproof just turn around yeah you don't have to turn around yeah you might be Bulletproof on the front no they are oh they are okay definitely are yeah all right that's absolutely fine but I'll tell you this there was a moment when I felt a genuine emotion in this movie whoa and that's never happened to me before ever are you sure it wasn't a fast building up because you'd been sitting for too long so there's a moment where they're like oh look at these monsters look at these freaks and you see Michelangelo and he's just really sad and I'm like that's really impressive and initially you thought oh maybe he's got a fart building up but then he realized it was because he actually was sad yeah that's right he also may have had a fart building I know you can have two you can have two emotions at once yeah but like the design of that and the eyes and just the look on his face the texturing of the turtles is way better in this the coloring's better as well they've brighten them up just just a little bit there's less kibble there's still probably too much kibble he's still kibbling but yeah and I think also you get more emotion out of them in this and I realize what I don't like about splinter in this okay he's got black eyes oh and it's just like no I can't read his emotions and he's a big rat so like I don't want to skip that away from me yeah weird long fleshy Tails see I think they they absolutely minimized it in this movie I think they were like people are not responding well to the big wet rat so they want a big red brain he's not in it much is it the wet rat but yeah man that's tell you what though braver this movie to have an ending where a portal opens in the sky above New York a mere four years after the Avengers did it absolutely yeah and it's blue and it's blue yeah yeah I don't know I think also you end it with the turtles up in a really high place above New York fighting a bad guy in a mech suit it's like I recall this because it happened in the previous movie yeah maybe it could have come up from the earth the technodrome's often in the earth sometimes it's in the earth comes up and it goes I'm a big eye on me that's right should we do some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles out of the trivia Shadows yes should we do it now oh let's do it now yeah yeah should we wave that's a trivia yeah trivia's here all the time I think you take Truvia for granted basically oh yes it's not always going to be here it's always going to be one week I might forget okay but not this week no so Alan Richton who we talked about last week who voices and is the body and mocap of Raphael and we got into how it was a very unhappy experience making the first movie he had to come back and do this one because he was bound to the contract I see so that's good so again paid very little awful conditions right but at least he didn't have to do a third one that's true but I think he did a bang-up job he did you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't listen to those line readings and go this guy didn't want to be here if there's even it and that's about this Pete plows zek uh he provided now the motion capture and voice for Leonardo after Johnny Knoxville wasn't asked to return for unknown reasons I think he's a really good Leonardo in this I agree I think that voice Sensei the foot cleaner attempting to make shredder out of custody what's happening out there Donnie it's your call suits the character better and I don't know whether it is the pairing of the mocap with the voice but this to me feels more like a like a leader Leonardo than the previous one they probably didn't ask Johnny Knoxville back because he he read the script and he's like oh so I get to jump out of a plane onto another plane and then I crashed the plane and then I send it down the side of a waterfall let's go and they're like no Johnny Johnny please now Jonathan Jonathan Knoxville knoxenville if you wouldn't mind uh the producer tried to get Cameo rolls from TMNT 1990 actors including Elias cotius who was of course a former Casey Jones and Sam Rockwell as a Foot Clan member oh yeah that's right because he's one of the teams a very young Sam Rockwell however both of them declined to appear and what about this when crank puts Shredder's frozen body in the lower levels of the Technodrome on his left and right are frozen alien beings from the TMNT Saga oh we've got a triceratops-like alien known as a triceraton and also a neutrino on the other side and you recognize some of those maybe do recognize at least one of those do you recognize the idea that this studio wanted to make a third movie do you recognize that I would be willing to recognize that okay in a court of law yes right good good which this is yes these are all in a call we record all these in a court of law correct we got to get them right by law that's right so all of the actors in these movies the turtles Megan Fox will uned all of that uh they were signed on for three movies okay and Tyler Perry even said in an interview that he would probably turn into a fly during that third movie nice presumably within the movie okay not just as a trick to entertain the cast and crew behind the scenes that's right I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it guys oh wait it was just too far million dollars which I think you know this gets a lot of bang for its Buck you know it came away with 245.6 million okay which is a massive decrease on the previous one yeah yeah and that I mean that sounds like more but when you're Factory broke even maybe maybe probably not though so producer Andrew form he spoke to collider at the time and he said we were obviously surprised at the box office results we loved the movie we loved making the movie from our first Super Bowl teaser to everything we launched we felt so good about our material and for some reason they did not find the audience at the first movie found and we talked about it at the time and we tried to figure it out but we cannot put our finger on what happened we really can't was this just the wrong time look it's not great also it wasn't received super well again it's better than the first one was this just an era where like Marvel and DC were dominating do you think that was but I mean it also just might be you know we have fond memories of the cartoon and that and this has lots of nods to that yeah but little kids don't no and that's the the would be the primary audience for this right they'd be like oh that's a big brain guy yuck yeah yuck oh there's a weird rat with black eyes yuck I hated that last time and I was afraid and I had nightmares I don't like this yeah yeah I mean this this feels you know I had fun with this one but I feel like it a lot of it is Nostalgia bait for people who aren't seeing these kind of movies anymore really yeah you're not wrong wow you know what what one of my favorite Ninja Turtles movies is the best one from 1990. oh yes you know where did you know listen to this okay you might know this I might but me and you have done a movie commentary on top of that movie that's right and that is available at bigsoundwitch.com where we've got dozens of movie commentaries up there right plus these videos go up there early every week don't they Mason yes they do and I love that and here's a hint towards next week's episode by the way what matters is who has power and in addition to that we've got video game Let's Plays right we played the Ninja Turtle arcade on there when I say on there this is all at bigsandwich.com which is like our private patreon service where all the things mentioned it's all paywall doesn't it Mason now people love paywalls you have to you have to pay some money some money but it's not a lot of money or maybe you're interested in our podcast the weekly Planet we're talking movies and comics and TV shows it's got its own YouTube channel Spotify uh it's everywhere as well Tick Tock it's on Tick Tock yes but there's a weekly Planet Eclipse Channel where people who remember the original Ninja Turtles cartoon and were also on Tick Tock that's right what an era I don't run it but I can't imagine it that's right all right thanks everyone grab that Jamie guys we'll see you next week goodbye thank you

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Published: Thu Aug 03 2023