Nick Cannon on 2Pac, Suge, R Kelly, Oprah, Michael Jackson, Rihanna (Full Interview)

all right here we go Nick Cannon welcome back man we back once again once again get into some more trouble you know and you just got back into town yeah and I'm like you want to do another one and you're like oh I'm free at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning straight off the plane from Dubai let's talk is a lot going on I know right well first of all Congrats on the masked singer thank you man damn that's like a phenomenon right now number one show on television the number one and go on television network television killing Wow so late I couldn't do it do it again I mean after you left uh mathematics Got Talent yeah you like [ __ ] that check yeah we're going out to they they thought a lot of people especially within the industry there was like there's people close in my circle people that were like even like high up executives man you can't give up a job like that only comes around once in lifetime we understand your principle and standing firm on what I believe [ __ ] you and then even like people would like like executives really would say stuff like yeah that's not that's not gonna come around again are you gonna like like watch I'll show you then you y'all just didn't employ me you know what I mean like I know how to make these vehicles work so to jump off a show and go to it and be a producer on the show and create a whole new wave oh and and top their ratings so you're not just a host you're an actual producer I'm a producer on massing Wow hey like that's that's like that I wasn't a producer on America's Got Talent so ha that's what I tell people like I'm never afraid I'm always bet on me and I'll walk away from that check and go create something well you know and this is something we've covered in the past this is why it's so important to have a financial base you know what you do because if you were like okay look if I leave America's Got Talent I can't pay my mortgage my car my my baby mama go go take me to court and take my passport you know no I gotta keep this money going because I'm paycheck to paycheck yeah you would have stayed yeah I stopped being broke before I ain't scared to go back but even like all those responsibilities do take you you sit up in your mom but having the financial base but even I mean you gotta think too low is a lot of money I walked away from mom like legitimately if I didn't hustle up and figure it out like my lifestyle what it had to be a little different I would have had to be a little bit more frugal because if you used to eight figures coming in and then they don't come in no matter how much you got saved up at some point you're gonna be like yo I was used to living like this in this name that's a that's how a lot of these entertainers go broke so quick because you think like man you had a hundred million dollars yeah and I had a hundred million dollars with the bills too so when you think about your we livin up here because this is coming in when this stop coming in my lifestyle didn't shift and that's how you you go broker quick to somebody who's on a monetary stipend our budget that is fixed for their income the thing about having absorbent amount of money is that's not a fixed income mm-hmm you don't know saying is like it's like Andre 3000 was saying is like you know that's with you I still live a check the check you move your feet and I don't eat so we like neck to neck right that's if you used to every because it costs money to live this lifestyle so I took all of that into consideration but I was like yo um I'll step back for a minute it was funny cuz the year that I did walk away from AGT everybody was like tighten up the belt wakes up the bootstraps and that year I ended up making probably five times the amount then I have made the previous year a GT Wow and it was just because that mentality was like I gotta hustle up and and you know that was the year the tour went even extra hard on while announced getting the music stuff popping start signing more people started doing more deals and I looked up and it was just like gosh that's how you get it like something sometimes change evokes the hustle you know mean like and I knew I was like yo I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let what everybody wants to happen to me actually happening that's even I went over there and did that deal with Fox and I was like yo let's figure this out and I'll just that's it that's what I'm a singer came I'll just was hustling over there and that was a property that was you know large overseas and once it was presented to me I was like yo if it's working over the area I know I put myself Oh the max the the masked singer was an overseas show yeah massing is a global success in my career I land in a bunch of places the asian thing yeah okay I could see that now yeah they're big on the cartoon characters holidays I thought it like you look up online like one year to mass in your head like the biggest YouTube video in Asia and all that stuff so I was like yeah there's something here if we could finesse it it for Nagel it ourselves and it's what a good producer does somebody you believe in a project you surround yourself with a dope team number one show on television that's what's up and then you have the talk show coming right yeah man yeah we've we've been developing that for quite some time and so some some new things have come about to where you know as fun as late-night is it might expand into you know other day parts I'm trying to do something that nobody has ever really done before and it's just there's a there's an audience that's feigning for me in daytime as well as naval as late-night hmm so so a daytime talk show see that's I don't I don't want to be defined by this man-made Tom laughs okay it could be you know it's one of those things where in the syndicated world when you allow the distributors or you allow the the affiliates to choose what time you come on based off or what's best for their demographic in in their space so you make something for them you say you could put my joint on at 11 o'clock at night or 11 o'clock in daytime and there's not a lot of people that can live in both of those spaces comfortably you know and you wouldn't watch Regis and Ryan are Regis Ryan and Kelly at 11:00 at night and you probably wouldn't watch Stephen Colbert at 11:00 in the morning you know I mean it's like but there's some people that can live well there's not some people but I'm trying to be one of the first like I live in both spaces and then even also in and make the show at night different content than the one in the daytime but still give you both shows so you shoot a show and I this is the cup for the late-night this is the cut for the daytime this is the daily cut that we're gonna put up online so as I really I told you when I'm chasing Oprah in a big way so and we thought it's all culminating to obviously like the stuff I do with the podcast the radio stuff like it's really like a one one-man media shop that we trying to put together so that's why that's even why it's kind of taking so much time because it's really a big 2020 launches what we're trying to get it poppin on okay so next year it's gonna launch yeah cuz I mean I got I got so much stuff I gotta do finish off this year we got the tour starting back we got you know a few more seasons awhile and out like you time here I came I can't be your old man Wow only got so much time left so and they they just keep ordering you know more and more episodes because it's you know number one show over there so um so I got a i'ma try to bang as many wiling out before I start my next show and then also I graduate in 2020 so the 2020 semester starts in a couple of months from Howard yeah so I got a uh I got a lot of school work to do to finish finish this up so this just the rest of this year is really just preparing for everything at the top of it next year and music stand up and all that stuff so my next year and a half has already flushed out I saw this quote that said that everything that you're doing today is cuz ten years ago people were planning for the future while you were living in the present mmm facts I said you know in my own business I think 10 20 30 years down line I actually think about what happens after I die mmm with my content yeah yeah so this is why when I when I do certain things when I interview certain people it's like okay this may not be the hottest clip right now yeah but 10 20 years from now this is gonna be a very important person still yeah you know what I'm saying I just need weed bryan-michael Cox who's not a household name he [ __ ] his efficient eine Grammys and sold 100 million records behind the scenes it's a very important music person absolutely and he did his only interview with us yeah gotta like and then when somebody's looking him up and they looking up the Jermaine Dupri's yeah Mariah's and jagged-edged exactly you just on the phone with Obama yesterday Jamie the forever president mob my president yeah it was good to talk to to President Obama just catching up the fact you know I mean it's like all he really talked about which was super cool is like the stuff we did before he became president it was like he was out yeah you always show love when we as in White House remember we was like it was like man the fact that that even like I won't even think you would remember that stuff what were you doing before he became president I mean just this stuff work the the plan to become president and doing being a surrogate and you know every kind of like what's going on right now with people kind of putting their bidding to be president for 2020 I remember it was times like 2007 and we're doing different rallies and speaking engagements and I you know going around at different schools getting people excited about this young man named Barack Obama that if people didn't know that much about but you know we thought he could actually uh spark some change so it was good to catch up man and you know not kind of kind of surface conversation but to know that you your relationship was still appreciate it was dope you had me Biden might run he should I mean you know I think you're the only one with a real chance to be Trump because most most presidents do two terms yeah very very rarely like in our lifetime George Bush George HW Bush there's only one who lost the second time that was Ross Perot split the Republican vote yeah yeah but yeah I think Jimmy Carter also yeah yeah you didn't win the second term but in general most president stick around for the second term so right you need a real candidate to be trunk Biden could definitely do it so what I'm saying and that's all I mean again we we we choose personalities we don't choose policy so true really doesn't matter who's in there that's the thing I actually really like Joe Biden so yeah and if you even know this man like there's much [ __ ] that I'll talk I'm not even going after like I don't have the the Trump words like everybody else has like I understand why like that he's the figure he's the master distractor he's the one that supposed to make you hate him and stuff like that but I know it was his powers beyond him that we need to hate so it's an interesting entertaining show you know to watch the the ignorance and the ridiculousness but to to put to see how he manipulates the medium and even just watching him maneuver on Twitter and the things that he tends to address like he's sitting up at 3 o'clock in the morning talking about Saturday Night Live president you up late at night watching as mayor like that's I don't like that to me like he's it's not if we fall for his [ __ ] that's our fault yeah yeah and that's just how I feel about government in general you know I've always spoke out about how voting is something that doesn't even really you know pertain to us and with this system is so whatever a presser you pick to put in there this two-party system is [ __ ] at first place well you know I mean I've said before I personally think that Kim Kardashian is trying to plan a presidential I mean the way she movie what I'm saying hey all the criminal reform that's not an accident yes those are well calculated moves not saluting yeah you know me I speak my mind when it comes to anyone but even specifically that if I there was some some negativity going on I would definitely speak on it I can't say nothing negative about somebody who's trying to get people out of slavery yeah and that's all prison is and she's it seems like the work she's doing why I hate on it you know well I applaud her for if it's for a political run at some point I think that's dope because to me is its it just shows where we are in society and if that's - a leader well I mean you know people are like well she can't be President because she has a sex tape and I'm like well the first thing first lady has nude pictures yeah right now a first first lady that you actually see nude like yeah blatant racist yeah you had an artist Ryan Bowers yeah that uh some really fucked-up should happen to super [ __ ] it let's talk about that for a second so from your point of view based on what you understand what happened from my understanding obviously there's there's just mental health in general you know has always been something that even is near to my life and I've dealt with it so what I initially this is crazy how it ended up happening I created a group called the psych ward druggies I mean even times I remember I'll pitch this to you one time this is like it's like during the tech night and this was before like all of the the crazy colored hair rappers and the face tats and the drugs but I was like there's something going on with these kids and what I was I called it psych ward drug is about talking like the music is the drug and there's this mental health thing going on that all of these frustrated young kids that don't know how to utilize their voice in it these frustrated artist in sounds like I'm gonna put a motley crew of kids together that's just crazy out of their mind kailani was in that group Oh Brian Bowers was in that group like three or four other kids that I just saw and put them on tour with tec-9 they had their own show at South by South West comic but all this crazy stuff clearly you get a bunch of wild kids together that's called the psych ward druggies it's not gonna last long I'll say we took kailani out the group kind of got her focus on her own thing cuz she was so young at the time she was the youngest in the group and then one of the kid that didn't kid next to him was his kid Ryan Bowers that I ended up fun me and DJ Premier put together his first project really yeah Adam got debut Timon and this kid is dope white boy skateboarder like and this was before like Mac Miller and this is before like all of those other kids that came after that you know blew up this he we had the had the store on Fairfax he was ready he was in pocket and then he started to have some some mental health issues and that's a touchy world too because the if the person doesn't acknowledge it then they feel like everyone who's trying to help them become their enemy and because one they're like what are you talking about there's nothing wrong with me and then and then this downward spiral happens until you know you you can't you can't admit someone to a facility or a psych ward or anything with if they didn't harm someone else harm themselves or you know offer up to go on their own so when you got people trying to make friends and he needs help this and what we gonna do and I heat it got so bad that he like went on Facebook ranting about I was a horrible person they said but it wasn't it wasn't him you don't I mean like it was saying that people were trying to kill him and I ended all of these things and you're like yo man we just want you to get help so we kind of put him on ice for a while just hoping that he got help and he felt like a lot of the world was against him because they're trying to put him in facilities and stifle his creativity so I got so dangerous that uh he had a couple attempts on his life um like himself like taking his own life suicide so yeah and it it got it got dark man he got really dark few times just doing doing everything he could possibly do to try to kill himself and this was as of recently another one of those times and he did everything from swallow razor blades swallow razor blade swallow razor blow my god follow razor blades jump off of bridges eat batteries and so the he couldn't he couldn't figure it out so one night in front of it in front of his pops he he actually yeah I mean either if he gets dark but he actually attempted to cut his own throat so when you think about that like someone going that far you know I mean how how where did where is your brain where is your mind that that's like you can't inflict pain on yourself intentionally like if I bite as hard as I wanted to bite right now you can't break your skin it's your body won't let it like you take a night like to actually like if you had a knife to stab yourself you wouldn't you stop you would stop you know I mean like so imagine taking a knife in going that way and and he did it in front his pops and it was like out of fear you know of like yo my son gonna die gonna bleed to death he called 9-1-1 and i don't know that he'll this is someone who is you know under psychiatric care and let him know all of that cops show up like guns drawn like as soon as they get to the door like push pops out the way you don't know mean like he's like no I didn't call you cuz I was in danger I mean like called you cuz my son's bleeding where's the ambulance where's the you know there's a whole Department of the police force that deals with sight cases where are these guys and came in guns drawn and I guess you know Bauer's from from my understanding you know I mean like again that's pretty sure there's cases and on film form I understand anyway happened that he was sitting down by his bedroom mighty still you know I think it was a psycho not even like a it's like a pocketknife or something like that and the police just started dumping so shooting at him yeah like put the a in I think I they shot numerous times from my understanding you know he was hitting the chest open his chest all up bullet went through his liver still think he got one in his back like and like for what you know I mean and this is San Diego you don't mean like the kid is white that's the other crazy concept I've been doing all of this stuff you know for social justice and criminal justice reform and you know police brutality and but it's usually for you know young black men like this is a white kid it's fear like it just so just the police the police in itself man I can't I can't subscribe to that system want on any level because I believe it all started from a slaver II mentality and overseer overseer oppressor type of monitoring that has gotten out of hand and it hit home you know I mean one of my one of my own that I would never think something like this would have to because of even the mental health issues you know what I mean and like that's one of the main things that so so not only is it a sad case for it was going on in our criminal justice system and in our police force but it's also a sad case when somebody who's just crying out and doesn't really know how to deal with life and and that that spiral where it can take you in and it's really like you know how do you how do you help someone like that somebody who says they don't want to be here well he actually survived right survived like an ATP he's gonna make it through the night yeah like here's so my god 150 pints of blood they had to give him me yeah like craziness and it was just like you know not to me I told him I was like yo if it's from this point on but you got a calling on your life he's talking about everything he's we getting him there man his like he's definitely I was like yo once you get all the way back the world got to hear from you the world got to hear your story man like bring my flat TV yeah oh no absolutely it's gonna be one of the first stuff but even that to me even before all of this stuff happen when I was signing kid when he was a teen agers I just one of the most talented young dudes I've ever met in my life like professional skateboarder like freestyle probably better than anybody that I've met like as a kid can sing can like swag crazy like in that mental health stuff could hit you but so like so he can speak on that you know I was like you don't be an inspiration for so many people man like and just eating like he because he that he's kind of laughing and stuff we try to joke with him now he's like you you tried to kill yourself every way possibly like six million ways to die you chose all of my mean when you said he swallowed razor blades that's I'm like okay this is a razor blade because I had a really close friend of mine dis Cody he hung himself right you know in his mother's house [ __ ] up you know hanging yourself and swallowing razorblades are two very separate yeah type of things to do when I can't even imagine yeah so I mean what we gonna get him here we don't get him here you'll tell you the story himself cuz that's the thing too cuz even because I mean I'm going after the police force videos you know I mean like just I mean I'm I always get up on my soapbox and he said I was just with you know Stephan Clark's kids yesterday and up there you know trying to get some bills and policy you know to to get focused on but this is this is a whole nother thing because this is something this is injustice that hit home you know and even as all the other ones matter to me too but this is like something I've witnessed firsthand that is just like and you got police officers showing up to the hospital like like making eerie calls like check to see if he's gonna die cuz then they know like somebody somebody had to pay for the way this was yeah you know put together and I said that's what I said even cuz you know me we had this conversation about I won't really talk to police under any circumstances like even even talking now I'm like I just we gonna let it play out and obviously we want to give him the opportunity to speak for itself because it's probably certain things that he doesn't want to share that I'll let him do it there's things that he probably from his perspective like even when I talk to my man do you remember to add it like well you know sir you know as I tell these stories like you know that's my understanding it could be it could be completely different because I wasn't I wasn't there but I do you know the night it happened we rushed down to [ __ ] and and it it was crazy man just did you I would never think like cuz ultimately that issue I thought I thought he was dead because the way the news was given he was like damn I felt like I felt failure come over me like like man is cute the world was supposed to hear this kid and then I felt guilt like I liked him I wanted he has so much talent and then I'm like damn is this my fault you know I mean like I signed the kid I'm you know kind of promising a better life it doesn't happen maybe at the speed and he gets he sees you know when it's closed for his kailani shining on top right they looking at you know he's seen me I'm all like he's been next to the lifestyle he's had music videos you've been with the top rappers and then all of a sudden he on ice and then if he's if his my state isn't clear at the moment he there's been time he was blaming me you don't I mean like as as almost artists do they blame the label and you know luckily we had a closer relationship but even in in his in his state he was like you know if he would have tried or he he felt he let me down you know I mean that was the thing that he was like so now I'm worthless like I had he gave me a shot he spent all this money on me got me a skateboard in store and all these deals and I didn't shine maybe I'm not meant to be here so he was going through a lot of that and I was like man you good we're gonna get to it when we get to it definitely wasn't my focus at the time so I'll give this news with my heart drop I'm like damn I'll let him go so then there's like he's not he's still here so he listened you down is like we don't know how long he's gonna be here and then I his pop now his mom is a gangster his mom like was the she kept us all strong you know I mean and like she she sitting there with her son he cut open from here to here and it's just like she just she's a strong for everybody and then to see where he is now in the constant growth and you know like I just I remember I put that post of ugh like man the power of prayer is real good if we get enough people praying together enough align spirits and you know in a union you know push through and you know that their prayer is working it's a disappointment well you know you'd mentioned a Stephan Clark yeah you know and actually when I hit you last night you were in Sacramento yeah with his kids and you know I had a you know we report on the story but I to go back and and kind of refresh my memory so essentially with that story I guess they had reported that someone was like smashing windows or something in the neighborhood some guy to trailer home right white guy calls who calls the police right he was living the trailer home and I guess his windows got smashed so he said there was like you know a black guy in the neighborhood smashing windows right police show up and they find Stefan who I guess tries to run right and they shoot him eight times yeah well they did shoot him in the back seven times seven times because they claimed yet you know they released a video they said he had a gun and there's a cell phone so in his own backyard he got shot seven times first of all when you give these police some better vision because they they they for someone with all of this training that they can't tell the difference between a cell phone and a gun like it's to me in that point is like that's just a lie at this point and like that there's this so copper oh we were we were going by the book well I've got to change the book they shot 20 times hitting him seven times as target practice yeah the neighbor who called the police regrets calling 9-1-1 you wish you never done it an innocent person got killed and he said father got cute father got killed you know DeMarcus Cousins offered for the funeral right I'm at bar and start a scholarship yeah yeah then the NBA did a PSA right right and at the end it said accountability we are one but the cops are not accountable ultimately and we just released a story that say that there's no charges are gonna be filed against the cops are did and they're like decimate our system is so [ __ ] I heard there were some donations that happen like the same like in the same time period you know from the police department to the like it's just like moving money around and like that case in itself man that's it's heartbreaking and and ultimately like that's what I went there to support the kids and then the same thing is mad and a couple of other people like you know establishing a presence and whether like whether it's a foundation whether it's a non-profit but just to know that like these two little boys that never know they dad right and that's where I was like I don't want to get caught up in who's right and how it happened in the marching like cuz a lot of it can just be like almost another media moment and contrary to popular belief I'm when it comes to something that's real I don't want the media there at all I mean the only reason I know is because you told me about it yeah in a personal text yeah hey this was not on your Instagram or nothing else like that no I just wanted to be there for the family I think it's important for people to know that yeah but yeah but ultimately because I get to that but you know I'm one of the black lives matter and marching and stuff and when I'm out there man I'm like a lot of people just out here to make noise like nobody's really trying to evoke change nobody I mean or are as people got so upset that they're like they're outraged and but the process is like what has really changed well you know this is somewhat of an unpopular opinion but you know I know that you're you're real cool with Kaepernick yeah Kaepernick settled the lawsuit with the NFL yeah but it was a you know an NDA type settlement which which to me was a big disappointment because because I feel like I don't know it's not pretty close to it right and because there's a two there's a few things because even when you say the the settlement it's not the settlement as it's a it's an employee like like if if I work for you and you stop me from eating I'm living I have a legitimate like between me and you yeah like you're stopping me from being able to provide for myself right and my loved ones and I and I agree that he should have sued right but in even a sense because it's not even he still doesn't have a job he still wants to play football he probably got my massive check for the NFL and my and my thing is is that but it's almost it's not like a massive checking like Oh more money than I know you stopped my money that I was supposed to get in Kaepernick situation is more like no this was mine and you took that from me it wasn't even I don't want more than I I'm not disagreeing right him suing the NFL right I was appointment the disappointment is that he accepted a settlement with with an NDA associated with it saying that basically all the details of the case in the settlement he can't talk about but it can't be discussed but those details are out there like all that stuff is already out there no we don't know how much you got we don't know what what they ultimately agreed to we don't know anything is that I mean cuz that's to me cuz I could go spite is still going I have I've dealt with lawsuits right like would it get y'all haven't but I guess at the end you could either do the NDA plea deal or you could do the we could talk about it plea deal like there are options on the table at every point and my thing is the fact that he took one where he can't talk about it rubbed me the wrong way a little bit I feel like I can't all right it's unpopular opinion like he knows two things one he's not like a super vocal dude anyway he could have been he could have been he could every interviewer from Oprah on down to I don't want to talk to him he didn't talk to anyone he talked to nobody so why you don't talking anyway tell you how much money you got tell you you know me what he that's just not his character he's more solid than to get out there he's like yo I don't care if y'all said I wasn't I just want to play football and you guys are still stopping me from playing football like this is this lawsuit was just about the disservice as from employee and an employer yeah but what about how you are preventing me still like I still don't have a job so I to me the fight is still going right right until somebody put him on a team well it's gonna be interesting also that if he actually does get on a team if he's gonna kneel again and he should have the right to do that like to me uh even man like I always say like y'all gonna do the national anthem or something like that just I'll pull up afterwards like because I don't I know the controversy is gonna cause but I after everything I fought for everything I've spoken out against if I'm sitting there with my hand over my heart I look like the biggest fool and hypocrite in the world so and as much I try to be at all the events and celebrity all-stars and the basketball do the Laker games course I was like man I'll be I'm gonna go to the bathroom it's not because I know everybody else gonna be standing I'ma be just like this or like this or you're gonna mean like yeah I can't do it man I really I really can't and it's just because after all the research that I did I mean one standing from with my guy calling but even and then once I because I never want to just be a follower so I went and studied Francis got kids in the national anthem and what it was about slavery connotations what battle was written for and all of these things I'm like yo this is a song [ __ ] like we when you really understand what the song is about it and the fact that again the media tried to spin it where Colin was all about police brutality the the killing of innocent black men without any repercussions this was this is what he was kneeling for our clerk and then except on Clark and then the media flips it makes it about our men and women of service in the military the honor and the patriotism the [ __ ] listen that song is not about that like what that that maybe what it's about for you and what it represents for you but at what point did we all come together and say this is what like I have I love being an American I love living in this country but you're not gonna get me to celebrate and then I'm supposed to have the freedom of a peaceful protest the man was peacefully protesting yeah and punished severely for it late yeah that's this is what our military fights for you heard I mean to have this freedom of protest like Martin Luther King said I just want America to stand firm on what they put on paper like you said it's written you said this I just want you to stay like peaceful assembly peaceful protests it's all in yo y'all wrote that out but now when I try to do that now everyone hates me I lose my job I lose I gotta be exiled from society from a certain aspect because they they say I hate my country you know is it late yeah it's ridiculous right so that I personally can be a part of it you boy are killing ha ha ha I love with you you came out saying how can we still listen to our Kelly's music in the same way y'all can still listen to The Bachelorette that's a good segue guests on the show one of my favorite people out of that dude is brilliant um well you actually came out and said that you now regret working with our Kelly now that I'm just I didn't know all that [ __ ] dead-ass and as I was talking to daily you look like no I didn't know to the extent and that's why I said I blame myself and many others of turning a blind eye because if I probably would've deeper I'd be like yo this some [ __ ] up [ __ ] right there were there any girls in the studio and you guys working together but not that I'm not like this was the weird thing because then I can sum the way his studio was set up it was quarantine different studios like there was time but he'd be gone and I would have [ __ ] is it do that okay like I'd be in a studio like this by myself for like 12 hours and like that's how I wrote gigolo like I wrote that record and he was one of them time Ron a word [ __ ] you was I was in Chicago I'm like man I'm tired like just sitting around and I used to say [ __ ] like man indeed yeah if if people really want these hits I'll make him sit around and wait to see how bad they want it they gotta wait for me really that was like I'm sitting in a studio like this life was really gonna make me sit around here in wait cause he was dead on fire he's right hit after hit for everybody so any play he he it was just beat and I was like you know what I'm just write something to this beat I don't care if he in there and I'm jumping on a plane I'm going back to New York and and it was funny because I had just wrote like at the time that Labour was trying to dumb me down and make me sound like you know a Nickelodeon rapper and all I said and I was like man I'm gonna just talk about the [ __ ] I really go through I don't care I'm gonna be cussing I'll be talking about [ __ ] hoping you're right like I was just frustrated like pimp bones in my body rock him out talking all that [ __ ] you called me the Scarecrow I'm looking for some brain I got I was he saying all of like you wrote all your own verses on my own verse there's a whole less what the hook he did yeah like I just I left the studio and then I get a call from the head of the label you know there's gigolo record is amazing [ __ ] make no record called gigolo and then he sent it to me was like yo Rob must have heard my verses in winning earrings kilt the hook killed the hook and the rest is history so I would but to say all of that it would I never saw it like when you go to a suit you don't see anybody else but it's a big ass building so I'm pretty sure you know who it was people around but I never you know but that's what being like if I were to saw some little girl in the studio tonight I'm out I mean I've interviewed you know public announcement right you know who worked with them very closely and that's why I think is you know it's hard for people to understand because they thinking like well you guys are there you've never seen nothing but if you know him you're not gonna see nothing if you know who he is cuz he keeps everything under control everybody that's there I don't care what capacity you work in you're not gonna you're only gonna do what he wants you to do and you're only gonna be involved in things that you need to be involved in so there was a lot of separation you know we were always separated from everybody else because we'd be in the studio working on whatever it is that we were working on and next two studios down it could be somebody else working on an album it could be but all under his camp but it wasn't oh let me go over and say hi to change in phases oh let me go through and say hi to you no no it wasn't that we're going to do a job and they he had bedrooms in the studio and kind of weird like sectioned off these areas and it goes back to what I said that access to excess where you can just do whatever you want no one tells you no but even once I once I started to see like I'd say like the one that broke my heart man when I saw the documentary and I didn't want to watch it but when I finally watched it and I saw the young lady who like on Mother's Day when the mom went to go get her daughter and she wanted to go like I was like that girl did not want to be there like she wanted to escape any like but but there was some there was a video that surfaced from that same girl uh-huh who basically said that you know that she told the backstory of that situation and she was saying how her mother only started coming around when she stopped giving her money and her mother said that she had cancer which wasn't true and like you know like I mean she still with her mom today's date alright bottom line we can go back to our Kelly after oh they are Kelly's letting you back into the circle after that whole but when you see that type of stuff and I mean I know you interviewed the young lady you Isabel hey well even it happened like that's it like well okay to be fair I interviewed public announcement right and they said that based on everything they've seen because one of them was interviewed for surviving our Kelly right and it wasn't used because there wasn't any sort of stuff that they wanted you know like right yeah no salacious information so they did have not even using this stuff but when I asked them do you feel that surviving our Kelly was accurate or very one-sided I would say that it was pretty pretty accurate pretty accurate and I must say that in terms of most of the women that that spoke those survivors they you know I believe they were telling the truth I mean even the two ladies in the gang interview late there were 21 and been with him for however so and you can tell like the way they carried themselves like they were trying to be mature like they was playing playing house but I was like you know these little girls as well like they reminded me of little girls trying to act grown you know he even said he said you know I don't look you know so dude date with me your own there I don't look for close to my age I look for legal I'm an older man that loves all the women thank you cut that shredded everything light-skinned dark-skinned I'm older man all that that whole interview will be chopped up and used for years we actually released it like a flat TV interview yeah it was sad though man just see light cuz again I I saw the the confusion the pain the the mental illness like even amazed like you I need help I need to talk to somebody like we've as fans as the public as the people close around him we gotta take responsibility for letting this man that was super talented operate in a way that was just inhumane at times like what the fact that because we were I didn't see the tape when we were you know when it was actually going on but now like even in that documentary the stuff that they show from the tape played like standing over a fourteen-year-old urinating on her like we thought that we joked Dave Chappelle was making jokes about that yeah play as a father with a daughter now like there's nothing funny about a grown man urinating on a little girl like hey well there's nothing funny about sexual relations of any sort yeah but that's what I'm sure nation or otherwise right you know I mean but at the time because it was all speculation and that wasn't speculation as I saw that tape when it first came out it was why did we let it happen well we didn't let it happen I mean I but laughs why didn't we it when him Wayne like went to trial right it went to try and I interviewed Lisa Van Alen who was in the trial right she was she took the stand against our Kelly now the trial begins and you actually are involved in the trial okay so what did they you know what is your involvement in that trial pretty much I just had to identify the people on the tape I was able to identify them because I've had a threesome with the both of them so that was pretty much my my role she had a threesome with that little she said she didn't know that she didn't know he said that it was like a neighbor right oh and and she found out afterwards during the trial but she said something very interesting I don't know if you saw this part or not but the father will the parents of that the tape had to be brought into you know the police station right so the father had to sit there and watch that tape he'd lied under oath because he said it wasn't her but while he was saying it wasn't her he was crying that's what prosecution told me well you're watching the tape of your daughter getting peed on and you're crying and you're saying it's not her but you're crying keep in mind that the father played bass on our Kelly's albums before the incident and after the incident continued to work with our Kelly after the incident and on the week of the trial that whole family you know the parents and the daughter were on a overseas cruise so so they couldn't be pulled into the courtroom the whole thing was a calculated his dad wanted you you know can you imagine how do you sleep in doing business with the man that molested and pissed on your daughter like like money is just an evil [ __ ] thing I don't enough money in the world in the world late ah that's it that's that rubs me the wrong way as we sit here like you know part of that Lisa Van Alen interview what came up was also kind of interesting because you know there was always the rumors I'd heard that our Kelly married Aaliyah because he had gotten her pregnant right right and Lisa said that's what our Kelly told her right he'd gotten her pregnant and felt that if they were married he wouldn't get a statutory rape charge or whatever else that's something that's been in the universe for a while yeah but then he goes on to say he actually stayed at their home in Detroit and her mother actually was sexually attracted to him as well and he said when Aliya would go to sleep that he would this now this is what he said he said that he would go in the living room and him and her would do sexual acts on the couch while Leo was sleeping in the bedroom our Kelly was having sex with Alia and her mother at the same that's not the exact same time but that's what he said frame that's what he says yeah okay yeah it's to soap-opera for me man I'd like to me it doesn't I think you know I'm gonna go to this place probably one of the reasons that we all did turn a blind eye is because it sounds so far-fetched like I I didn't believe it I said like even like what you just that's that sounds hard to believe to me like it just but then it's like well if this happened why didn't this happen if somebody told me that uh one of our Kelly's band members let him pee on his daughter and continue to work forgot it I would never happen in like I can't but even like like I wonder that's why I wrote that long ass essay and kind of had you know a lot of Revelations myself and like man wait I'm out here in the den of iniquity and we just sitting around allowing sexual predators to to do this and we're not saying nothing like at least I'm guilty you don't I mean I'll stand up and be like man that we I can't be on my soapbox about all the other social injustice is and then don't speak up for when black girls are being mistreated and you know women in general light come on man like you Kate that doesn't that is great so let me put it like this and this is really my theory when it comes to this as someone who's interviewed people that are you know related to situations like this you know so for example like with Lisa Van Alen at one point she stole one of the videotapes right and sold the back somebody back 200,000 all right you know she claims it's not extortion but I mean when you take someone's property and sell it back to them he says did she say she didn't ask for the money they offered that exactly because you legally have to say that or else you're admitting to extort you know but the end of the day if I steal those glasses you're wearing and offer to sell them back to you after you've already bought them yourselves right what do you call that yeah well exactly even if a she engaged in a sexual act with a minor she did well if she did she have to go yeah she should have to go down as well the whole thing this is what I want to say like you know and I asked her I said you know cuz at one point he bought her a new Mustang she was like 17 or 18 I'd like to go back in yeah and like she had a baby supporting her you know and this was after the whole yeah she was already 18 19 20 think she was with him and so she was like 23 or something and like this man did a lot for you financially yes you had to you know cater sexual needs and so forth but you go and take the stand well number one you you get a hundred thousand dollars for the tape and then you take the stand against him it's like well why after he's done something for all this for you why well you know the answer was you know before they paid me his manager and lawyers said that we should have killed you you know and once they threatened my life then then you know at that point but it's like yeah so most heels for me I want to kill him too I mean you know I may not actually do it but you know it but like that's what I'm saying everyone's got their hands dirty that's in this [ __ ] you actually this is and because I've been in the world I've been around these people and it goes back to my theory on access to excess and in the fact that we just allow these artists celebrities stars whatever we want to call him but he couldn't do this stuff by himself as we you we see the fact that the man doesn't do much on his own he's admitted to not knowing how to operate a computer who's booking his flight he he said that in a Gayle King incident he said he went to a bank for the first time yeah three weeks ago yeah and didn't know how to get out his money that he got in there cuz even wanted midday I got hundreds of thousands I just don't know how to pull it out right but well a man can't read though but that's the you know who's looking to travel for these young grace who's who it's not him who's threatening who what where these bodyguards that were threatening these families and these young girls to allow this molestation ago everyone's hands are dirty from his to the parents to the you know to the the entourage to the girls to a certain degree also as they get older you know what I'm saying like everyone I mean not the children but as the girls get older and but they're already damaged yeah like that's when I look at those two girls sitting there that have been been that were pawned off by their parents yeah first fame or stardom or whatever yeah because it wasn't like you know again society turning a blind eye oh he was innocent in the [ __ ] up criminal justice system so we were gonna just let our daughter go and then all of a sudden now we want her back like it's all [ __ ] yeah like I see why those little girls are crying and angry you you put me in this position you allowed this man to brainwash me listen how many mothers say girl go get you a man with some money you may like what am i favorability what's love got to do with it wait I can Tina moms was like I came in with the check you like girl you better go right you see the automobile outside like right like that that ain't nothing new then there's a Michael Jackson situation have you ever met Michael I've been in the room like in areas studios like I never wanted to meet him cuz I was Superman to me and I knew that if I met him and it disappointed me it would [ __ ] my whole [ __ ] up so I purposed never took any other invites to Neverland never won it oh you got invited Neverland and turn it down yeah Mike was over there like pudding like mama Mike wants to meet you oh really Mike wanted to meet you you said no yeah it's cool Wow yeah I would have met Mike well I was such a fan right and here's the thing I don't want to meet Superman like like teenagers who are watching this aren't really gonna understand this but Michael Jackson was the most famous human being on earth the planning since Jesus Christ yes you could not name me a more famous person between Jesus and Michael more people know who Michael Jackson was in Jesus grace probably Michael is were like people in India as popular as the the Pope is and how he's supposed to be the you know the pipeline to God more people worship Michael Jackson than the Pope people think Mike will walk and people would pass out yeah grown as men so you were talking about almost like a God on earth right like the the level of fame and stardom of this man is incomprehensible even to Annie Kenney yeah that's it like I didn't want to meet the dude like I know I'm cool yeah because it was just like cuz and that all of the allegations never let you up I meet this dude and it's a disappointment that's gonna I'm already tainted and hate this [ __ ] industry already I'm gonna really be like yo Mike disappointing because I always say I rather be fans of people I don't want to be friends with people hmm cuz every time I've tried to be a friend of somebody that I'm a fan of I get disappointed it goes left yeah yeah and I probably just let me keep thriller let me keep Dolphy get it up The Wiz let me keep that I don't want to meet the man well did you see a leaving Neverland I didn't okay I see clips and I couldn't watch I watched it and I and I watched it and and what do you think it's hard to say it's hard to say cuz cuz some of the stuff you know is is so unbelievably weird with actual physical proof behind it so for example one of the boys you know like you know his parents got a fax machine right and Michael was just fax like love letters like Oh almost love letters you know I miss you I love you like literally like every day these faxes from Michael Jackson are coming through right you know and he also said that was a little boy things like seven at the time so he wasn't even like he was yeah and then like one of them said that him and Mike but he's also but he also used to do that to two kids in hospitals yeah we definitely know you weren't touching no kids in the hospital no and he I love you like but you know at one point like at one point one of the boys said that him and Michael had like a wedding ceremony with like rings I heard about the ring they got the footage of them in the ER yeah and they actually you know he actually has it has and there's footage of him shopping for the ring for the Rings you know claiming goes for a girl and but clearly goes for this for this little boy you know it was you know but they both admitted under oath that nothing ever happened right you know but that's the thing but this is the bottom this is how in without me even seeing the documentary because I feel like the documentaries are the new indictments 100% that's I glad you know got some people in trouble oh you did we just talked and then people like oh yeah is it we love talking but this is how from my perception there were there was um there's something extremely wrong with a grown man sleeping in a bed with a child year old a child has not bears that that a family would leave their eight-year-old yeah with a grown man like they described the whole story where this family from Australia you know Mike flew him out yeah they stayed for like a week right at Neverland with with Mike and then they went off to see the Grand Canyon and left the little boy with Michael for like a week personally I think that the family needs to go to [ __ ] prison Michael even asked it if you can keep one of the boys for a year they know the mom Mike was like no I could share my son with you but you can't have him for a year so they they kind of but even like Vlad okay but that's the thing again it's [ __ ] ridiculous names like who was that yo Mike why are you in bed with this eight-year-old little boy regardless if you're like like you're the most famous person on the planet yeah this could go bad like even if you got to just sitting there watching a movie you shouldn't this is wrong well and then and this is why I can't say like what really happened because you know and I said this is one of my tweets I said I don't know what happened behind closed doors but I do know that both these young men have sued Michael Jackson's estate for like after hundreds of millions of dollars right and lost right boss and they're now they only state money for or they got to pay the lawyer fees or something like that I don't know yeah I think it's something to where like by losing and it's like now you owe us money from you taking us through this process yeah I don't know the exact clause but now they're appealing right and what so far Manor II would help their appeal well when Oprah asked one of the one of the guys you know well why did you sue you know why did you sue he goes well you know I just needed the the state to respond to me and the lawsuit was the only way I thought to do it well why asked for one hundred million dollars well I wasn't even really thinking about the money I mean the money was just no issue and I'm like okay that's that's [ __ ] yeah yeah that's [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah yeah you know I mean you're a [ __ ] liar right that's okay and and what's interesting to me is that none of these young boys who might who Michael associated with who actually had money themselves like a Macaulay Culkin or a Corey Feldman or whoever else ever accused Michael [ __ ] right it's always the one always the ones you know cuz he bought one of those families a [ __ ] house right this is hard man that's an again it goes back to even when it was our Kelly with Michael Jackson like to the black community man these were all family members these were people that meant so much that they were at every event that they were at the weddings they were at the the birthday parties they were like their music it was like we so to say like imagine if somebody told you that's your uncle or your dad or your brother molested someone in your family we pass code yeah yeah I just disagree on this IQ no I'm not [ __ ] with it so the love is gone love's gone okay so this is why this is why I go there I'm in these prison systems every week with brothers that I got love for genuine like some of them do got bodies yeah so many people like something's there they're there for a reason you know I mean of how long they're there what the things that have gone on that's all up for debate but there's some people that have committed some heinous crimes like I still can't write this individual it's not my job to cancel this yeah but but being in a war and killing your enemy in a war you know cuz if if these guys in prison had you know military uniforms on they'd be [ __ ] war heroes right you know I'm saying that's how many people you know the colon Powell overlook murdering yeah seriously he's a [ __ ] hero with all types of you know emblems and trophies and [ __ ] like that murdered you know these guys are killing you know each other each other in a [ __ ] war like I've interviewed these these gangsters all day long on Vlad TV this is a [ __ ] war you kill one of ours we kill one of yours it keeps going keeps going yeah but you have children man you know you have this helpless child that doesn't know anything and you start molesting this child yeah it doesn't know anything like you're a [ __ ] monster when you're a hundred percent right but what do you find when the person that you loved all I'm saying is when you find out the person you love is a monster like it was like you sharing this information with me even about Michael Jackson I don't want to believe you I want to say it's the media I want to say [ __ ] Oprah [ __ ] I want to say all that he's either mad at Oprah I wasn't mad at Oprah mad at Oprah yes because and it's not and it's because I think the young black boy who loved Michael Jackson wanted to be like I don't want it to be true I don't want and I'm like even in that again it goes back like damn are we just turning a blind eye because we had so much love for his talent in his run well you said you know where's the surviving Harvey Weinstein yeah they're actually like two of those coming no but in the in that statement the reason why I made that and it like people like you can read into it however you want to me I made that two really more to poke at the media because the fact that I'm saying we don't keep the same energy I still like seeing her I have not seen Harvey Weinstein's mugshot every time a rapper every time a black man gets arrested where does where to college ladies mug shots the Becky never why I ain't seen a mug shots okay fair enough but if it's a black man oh that's just so come he's a monster like but every time like Harvey Weinstein is a monster why I seen as much and okay yeah they people yeah and they made it they make four or five documentaries did you see him no I haven't seen him when I Google but even so the one there was one at Sundance yeah are we gonna keep that same energy without are we gonna do after interview well I mean look at fire festival fire that guy got brutalized yeah but I get in we all saw it you don't know me but it's like to the fact that I'm just saying keep that same energy the media is not gonna let some prominent white man get hung out to dry even this monster and I'm not I'm not jumping line one greater than the other I'm just saying going back to me as a as that kid that wants to be optimistic about society and these were my role models from Bill Cosby Michael Jackson even our Kelly to an extent these are people that we saw is great and now their legacy is forever tarnished because they are monsters and did some things that are horrible but the media loves to throw that in our face I mean you know this is you know you and I've gotten in trouble in the past yeah throw some names out some names out but but some facts that weren't exactly right at the time they're still horrible right it was still horrible we're not gonna say who it is anymore but any any more letters from from lawyers Elvis Presley met Lisa Marie when she was 14 in he was 24 and guys permission from from the parents to maybe not have sex but do some sort of sexual activities with a working fourteen-year-old yeah the [ __ ] and and Barbara Walters asked her about it and it was just like it was what it was like and she didn't like Lisa Marie Presley was uh they pretty much just like yeah that's he want he wanted my innocence like she said that he wanted to be able to train train me and teach me uh-huh yeah but again and I've said this and ruffled quite a bit of feathers if we gonna call it like y'all want to go all the way back to Elvis is people today that's still doing it that's still walking around piling that young girls before it now now it only had to be after the show no more so on Instagram you're gonna mean that and that's why that's a lot of the reasons why you don't see a lot of dudes in the industry speaking out because they dirtballs to they are that end and it's almost like it's like fishing in a kiddie pond you know I mean they know they can manipulate these young girls and they know dealing with a real woman is they not gonna go for the [ __ ] so and even if you notice like in our Kelly situation and many others those women a lot of times are mentally like before and after you can see how he just his goal was to manipulate their mindset from the calling me daddy and all of that stuff like that that's that's bizarre ya know I mean when we interviewed Lisa Van Alen I would have rather had gone to another one because I was sexually abused at the foster home so okay so so in the foster home was there two parents or just one there were two in the beginning and then the foster lady her husband died so then it was only her okay so who was actually sexually abusing you it was a teenage boy that would come over to visit one of the older teenage boys and his and his brother was two of them actually oh wow so you were I mean cuz you got you went into a foster home at five years old now went at one at one okay I'm sorry and when I was six until six so what ages was this happening I was about four because I can remember it so I know I I couldn't have been too much younger than that I was about four years old and anytime they would come over here okay but it wasn't um it wasn't an ER course but it was making me perform sexual acts I like put use Vaseline and you know with them it was a [ __ ] up situation he flew out he saved her and everything and you know she gonna do whatever he says yeah fame and fortune and it said man and I like it like the Michael Jackson one because again there do we have any hardcore evidence other than these document no and in fact he beat his actual criminal case right you know I remember I interviewed Eddie Griffin he went to his like court case with him right you know what I'm saying right and you know it's funny cuz cuz Eddie Griffin would like make pedophile jokes around Michael sittin on the beans like what's having to drink I said yeah I take some champagne you know coke like hunches I just had some water he's nervous can't even talk right so anyway we got the bouncing ideas and [ __ ] and my brother runs out two wrong he like [ __ ] I can't believe y'all [ __ ] finish each other sentences isn't [ __ ] so Michael's like sit on the bed I'm like [ __ ] that's how you got trouble sit over there are you making pedophile jokes like mother look you know he would make fun of his plastic surgery yeah smoking crack but but but Michael you know people said that Michael hated his blackness but Michael knew he was black and surround himself with black people yeah and that's the thing I even as weird as the complete vitiligo transformation was allegedly but he said it I mean as his mom said it also but yeah I mean I believe him like I bet I believe well the plastic surgery wasn't gonna like that was it that's the thing so like hey that's true but I definitely think he had pride in his black community and I think you know even when you hear him talk and he was surrounded by the FOI like the his the people he would from dr. seve to to the nation like he kept the people around like he kept the real ones around him so dr. live was when we killed him was black yeah so like I don't think it was about like trying to be whitewashed or be I really don't I think you know I think there was some other mental things going on like I think there was some self-hatred you know like not wanting to look like his dad and then the nose and when those kids aren't his them not even the youngest nah those are not his kids man those are not his kids though those are kids that do not have his DNA which to me is crazy cuz it's like you know why wouldn't you want you're not passing down that greatness that the greatness of the one of the you know the greatest you know it's so bizarre painters of all time we have so many questions and not to say all of that well I mean you know allegedly uh Paris Paris Jackson trying to commit suicide recently she did 90 right she denied it but TMZ still running with a Sara Lee there's police reports around it TMZ ain't just gonna keep that [ __ ] up so okay to that point again and that's alright I got a I kind of get at the media just because it's just so unfair you already know this young girls going through the worst [ __ ] ever yeah like the man that you believe is your father one of the most famous people in the world people are now tearing down once again mm-hmm your mental is already torn he's not here he can't defend himself they saying all these horrible things you don't know what I'm sitting here torn your I mean and that's not my dad you know I mean like to sit here and like and then you're gonna like what just let that young lady go get the help that she needs like why does that have to be a front page yeah I would never reported it if it was a breaking story that I had yeah how to just you know I bury certain stories from people where it's just like you know I'm just like this person like so what if she did like okay now like she was trying to get help and all myself and then she did you know like that's that's laying on your heart that you were part of the process of this young lady killing herself like everything ain't got yeah that's yeah that to me and like clearly they didn't want that information out there yeah you know and also these kids are sort of just kind of just drifting it seems that none of them really seem to have careers or purpose or anything of that sort they're just oh yeah they have a very wealthy father and you know they're just sort of you know I think once you throw some purpose into someone's life you're not going to be trying to kill yourself and so forth goes all the way back to me like with the rhyme our situation and it's like I think knowing like even without his situation and feeling like no one understands you and you won't be able to like that that weight on me you don't I mean I'm like well you got a suicide and depression and like that's not real man as much and I love the fact that we're talking about it a lot more now but it does it seems like it's it's I've heard the statistics especially for young people have increased and it's like yeah I mean now we're living in the social media age yeah where everything is you know you have the pressure you know what I see these these like two or three year-olds wearing Balenciaga z-- and Gucci and I'm like what are you how [ __ ] doing this is all for the ground yeah how expensive is this like I know y'all afford to get me this [ __ ] hey cut it out this kid want some or payless shoes would like paw patrol on it like he doesn't care about these shoes this is all for the parents right you know trying to keep up an Instagram image is like the stupidest thing ever this is why I don't really put myself out there like that I'm not gonna have y'all wore those shoes last week I did I'm always we don't understand what it would true happiness and have fun in your oneness so we want others to let us know and it's yeah pretty sad and and it's also I mean you were famous before social media right you know people are getting you know Fame is now a lot more accessible right to the masses and people are getting their first taste of it and it's it's very addicting yeah it is especially if you don't have a good base right you know it's like you could having a hundred thousand followers it's like kind of famous these days you need a certain type of wake hey you were there before it so you don't care about a million followers Yeah right I don't care about that times that was a DJ before I I don't care like but to a lot of people it's like oh [ __ ] like I gotta keep this up validating I'm validated people love me you know you had Dame Dash on your show yeah but almost like a flat TV type in I mean we all bite in your style black but like more than good and more than anything is like I really want to have conversations educated conversation well I feel like I can learn from these individuals so whether it's one of my college professors whether it's Dame - where there's chaos one whether it's you know empowered feminists like I just and we have I'm sitting there like yo teach me and you know Dame Dame had a lot of game he's what he's definitely a businessman I entrepreneur one of these people that have helped shape and shift hip-hop culture in many different ways I was all ears I don't you know to me I ask a lot of questions like that's the one thing I never say I have the answer so we got into some interesting discourse and it in debates because I don't care who's sitting across from me if I don't agree with it or up if I have questions I'm gonna ask the question and you got you got intense but that's my man that's my man you know I love dang well you brought up the whole Foxy Brown thing did did it an only reason why I brought that up because again we were talking about we were talking about our Kelly and gain was taking this stance like I don't condone [ __ ] [ __ ] and staying solid and and then you know at the time people were talking about him being in the Fiesta video and I was like yo let's not sit around and act like there wasn't young girls that you know we're in the hip-hop community and stuff like that and I'm just from a fan I was like my understanding Fox he got signed to like 15 16 years old the first time I heard of her it was on the ain't no [ __ ] record wait and and you this all speculation and rumors we don't know if it's true but I'm talking about as a fan outside looking in and that's all I had Dame in front of me I was like how old was she when y'all was in the studio like was was anything going on and he did if he would have just said no oh I see what you do it oh you got you funny lady he started he was playing it up but I'm just like look there's probably five ten other artists and females that are around that whereas there were teenagers that's what I said this cats now that the reason why nobody speaking up because everybody been condoning his [ __ ] in hip-hop in in film and television in sports there's young teenage girls around grown-ass [ __ ] men all the time yeah mmm quote me I see in him and it has to stop great like I don't care I don't care if you a billionaire now I don't care if you married net like if if we gonna call out everybody we call them out then everybody got to come to the table you [ __ ] a fifteen year old I don't care who you are you gotta remember Tiger was with Kylie I'm saying if you if you [ __ ] fifteen year olds and you a grown-ass man there's something [ __ ] wrong anybody's name because these lawyers be calling me every day but if you're a grown-ass [ __ ] man and you're [ __ ] a fifteen year old you're sick right well after the interview with Dame 50 cent you know he commented I said you know say you've tried to get Jay jammed up I wasn't I wasn't again I name it just has to question my feet and I was just because Dane was sitting there acting like he's holier than thou and you know I was like yo if we gonna sit here and throw these stones in this glass house like um we can't do that like again it's not our job to just start canceling [ __ ] because we cancel everybody everybody's cancelled that was the point I was making that at that stage and I was even before I had even knew all of the other sick [ __ ] that I Kelly was doing I was just asking a question and we were talking about being solid that was the whole thing and I was like well if you ain't gone for you wasn't [ __ ] with him I know you had to see some other [ __ ] with where where was just solid line where was you I'll roll with that but I won't roll with that that's all I was acting this selective outrage that we all have that oh [ __ ] him but not [ __ ] him or like that's all I was saying so then when v come in it I was like [ __ ] let's talk about it like in the comments I was like to me sadly recognized solid suckers recognized suckers like that's that's kind of what I said back like if you see P if you [ __ ] fifteen-year-old girls that's some [ __ ] [ __ ] like it shouldn't happen and and that's I ain't John Legend I'm I'm just calling it how I see it I'm here to give my opinion any grown-ass man that's [ __ ] with a little teenage girl is wrong since last time the you and I spoke of interesting stuff happened with me Terry Crews and deal usually yeah so so uh I had done an interview deal hugely like a year ago yes old interview and what he basically said that you know deal said God gave Terry Crews muscles for a reason I don't understand I think that now everybody's so into this notion that it happened to me too hey [ __ ] God gave you muscles so you could say no I mean what would it mean happen to you to like when he went I could understand people being in certain situations because there's nothing you could do about it and then you know I don't know where Terry Crews brings up this interview and was like you know did a whole back-and-forth with DL and he say Oh should I slap you you know for toxic masculinity too and they kind of went back and forth and then afterwards I did I did an interview with TK Kirkland who actually goes back with Terry Crews just like pays rent and took him on tour stuff like that and we were just kind of talking you know in the interview wondering of Terry Crews was was secretly gay well now with the whole you know cuz you mentioned the whole purse and high boot yes thing and I don't have any secret information I'm not making any judgments but you know and Terry Crews yes is there a chance that Terry just might be gay and hasn't come out the closet yet let me tell you something when I saw it that today right if [ __ ] with me for a split second cuz I had the same thought that you just had I'm being honest because no matter when you when you're from the street and now Terry Crews I'm Flint he won't Flint Michigan I don't know nobody else just don't some of the coldest gangsters I know come out a [ __ ] Flint Michigan so what the [ __ ] he was trying to prove with the purse and the boots I don't get it because it doesn't prove anything and to the lbgtq to the Terry cruisers of the world listen we're not here to bash nobody some things are just a Miskin screwed and don't forget we are entitled to our opinions off also and Terry Crews responded right and he said that uh you know TK Kirkland and bladder talk about how they're aroused by Terry Crews he put up a picture of him like flexing his chest right you know it's a very interesting conversation about but what many consider to be the first and only male me to member you know terry by the way no terry very well very very well I'm and I support him uh but this visit thing we got to go back to cuz he got to see both sides of it and this is where again it's the master distractors we all know what we do him and we all played his game this is entertainment in our lives have become entertainment I think Terry cruises at role personally Terry Crews had if you look at his Twitter he's trolling people he's articles is a great entertainment yes and he has made an amazing career for him so there was an unfortunate situation that I think he did everything properly and to with the the Adam venison who actually used to be my agent so you know out of it we got to get him in for an interview first of all he's super rich he does not need to interview with you you want man like and I'll talk [ __ ] like this is this zombies talking [ __ ] so he can't get out of bed in here absolutely absolutely absolutely I mean you said he was my agent he was I'm saying I'm pretty sure that's how did he ever come on you he'll know like and that's and again this sound like one of them crazy freaky ass Hollywood parties that every time I'm I'm gonna go home this dish today for me so from what you know is he gay no Adam venez knocking yeah when I heard it was Adam V I was like [ __ ] out is he married yeah hmm hey this is an interesting twist yeah I just assumed he was out of the closet gay man no okay like a regular dude that that's the other thing like to me if I thought how it happened I was like alright everybody no we do not big on people's faces and they sleep we talked about this before and why people do crazy [ __ ] so I'm thinking always like one of them frat boy pranks that's what I'm thinking like I'm thinking like a big blob grab your nuts bro that's how I thought it and he probably was like yo you accosted me I get in my feelin cuz I'm like he's not some flamboyant over I was like yo it was probably drunk he's probably like hey bro but you won't go grab their big [ __ ] black guy he's not any probably like as a prank did it that's how I thought he occurred as we heard more and Terry said like he really felt like this was it happy more than once and also happy more than one I think that's where I like it wasn't this behavior that part this wasn't knew this wasn't new behavior so I was like yo what did cuz if he if he would have biggest tear he is if he would have whupped his ass they could have spun that story and terrier be in jail right now or I could just push them off and kept the put now you know kept it moving just like you know what I've talked about the problems I've had gay guys like bite on my shoulder and weird [ __ ] they're what you do that's [ __ ] weird and I'm cool and I'm walking I ain't nobody just gonna grab my nuts without you punch that's just bite me I interviewed like Michael Jai White right right right yeah you know what I asked him what he would do if a gay man walked up to you and grabbed your your genitals uh-huh what would you do I think I probably I probably hit him in the solar plexus really hard so it wouldn't leave a big mark and but he would be down I mean but I you know I I'd wonder if the guy was drunk or something probably but he was also the head of William Morris Endeavor it doesn't matter if William Morris is the biggest talent agency you know one of one of them yeah so it wouldn't matter if the head of the biggest holiday Jinsu grab you I come from you could have a [ __ ] gun in your hand and I'll [ __ ] you up if you did that okay it's I just come from a different place it doesn't matter if I got to go I got to go no does no matter no no you actually yeah I mean the the best chance that somebody would have if their 5 foot 2 and 115 pounds I might give you a break because I don't want to kill you you can't enter my house this is my house you come in here I can now defend myself well it's legal in here but here's here's my point though like and people don't really want to talk about this but I got to put it out there we are men right right right like I'm 6 - yes big guy I'm bigger than most men Yeah right I'm not huge like you know Ted Harry but you know that if you came up to me right and did something that you know that I may not like right in the somewhere in your mind you think Vlad might punch me in the face right so I'm going to be cautious be cautious of the situation and I'm like half the size of Terry Crews right right in order for someone to do something to someone like Terry Crews they either have to know that person's already okay with it or they've heard stories that he's okay ward or they got to be intoxicated drunk white dudes do crazy [ __ ] that and that's just how I saw it like I could be 100% wrong out when I heard the story I was like oh he must was [ __ ] he was on that good [ __ ] he walked up to Terry Crews and sexually molested him and because probably he said he's a powerful guy in Hollywood and he was like God you know he probably probably he probably thought he masks you lated and this is like I know I could have beat this dude's ass but I would be kicked out of Hollywood or you know arrested like you probably would have went back for him so why we met man visiting can't be mad at the way Terry handle the situation I think he stood up but they he it brought the movement even closer home because it was like it's not just like men it's gonna happen a man - I don't think any man looks at Terry and says yeah III respect the way you handle that tear this man does I respect the way check okay on the other side you gotta look at it like this Terry Crews cannot be upset with DL Hughley me or anybody else this [ __ ] was funny like you can't well he jokes about everything but look Terry said he said oh should I should I beat your ass DL so you talking tough with the the black comedian right but you run into the police for the [ __ ] for the little white you know Hollywood guy this is but that's me being tough with that now like what I'm saying like again that's where a little bit of it like oh man like deal you these job is to be to be funny he made the jokes like people I'm I'm dissing it to me there's nothing you're a comedian how many jokes come up every [ __ ] thing there's nothing I'm gonna be like now timing it's all like somebody died yesterday you a bold more [ __ ] of you at the funeral telling jokes like hey but the I don't believe in like people make Hitler jokes yeah people make slavery jokes yeah so who the [ __ ] you need oh lewb chubby white man grabbed your nuts and you ain't do [ __ ] that's funny he have a big ass we gonna talk about that you come on wiling out we took it's gonna be not grabbing jokes for the whole episode like because it happened in the public we're talking about it's not we can joke about this there's no hate involved in this but bet that's how you get over that humor heals so he can't I don't agree with him jumping out there and but you know badgering all of these other people who were just talking about it like that there yeah Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Fallon they made jokes about it - why are you not getting crazy with that right well what what deal thinks is that it was actually deflection because two hours before him bringing up this year old interview he got it just what he was defending Gina Rodriguez oh gosh who had bashed black women right you know after saying the black woman were the only ones who supported him all deflection the DL and I [ __ ] with if you cut if you ready to play this game play this [ __ ] game let's do it like I don't give a [ __ ] about what people say in my comments I'm the [ __ ] who tried to fire me because I talk [ __ ] right so I speak my mind tonight my truth and I got on Twitter said Terry you know you got a problem look come on my shoulders I hit a man to man less I'm not scared you know let's have the conduit come on I think he would get me I think he are you that I can't man I can get out of anything here but Terry Terry has not done any interview that was not just praising him you see I'm saying that's a real dude up here real good not saying he's not I'm just okay like he's not scared a conversation listen he gonna call up called Terry out to this interview tell him to come on Vlad TV you could be there too if you want you know well nobody gonna grab your nuts here you have a conversation cuz he's one of those people that will get on Twitter and tell you whether it's defending right and it's a lot see he having to apologize that's to me I don't apologize he spent he spent two days retweeting people saying he's not gay like you know how gay though I don't know - right my people so I don't give a [ __ ] I don't either if you guys say you're gay but are you or no or do you fight like that doesn't again like it's some gay girl from gay dudes in the hood got a whoop your ass if you say the wrong [ __ ] to him some straight dudes as punks like yeah hey I believe if we was if we was all here ted cruz's he gonna be tall I probably if we wanted to take a [ __ ] all of us at once I don't not try to prove anything but I think we're playing this media game the social media for the likes we do these interviews these conversation I know every time we sit down and talk people talk [ __ ] but I'm not one of them people like I'm not everything I'm not [ __ ] apologizing for conversation me and my friend are happy right because this is my truth this is your truth there's things that we agree on there's things we don't agree on I I'm not I don't that's just how I move I feel like we live in a society where we shouldn't have to apologize for our truths and how we really feel now if I hurt someone okay let's let's figure that out but that's never my intent I'm never sitting here trying to damage anyone I'm never sitting here I'm sitting here talking to my friend and sometimes we agree about [ __ ] sometimes we don't and we keep it pushing well uh you actually did damage quite a quite a number of people with our last interview you know when you said that that any woman that's that's which you doesn't have to work if you with me you don't have to work and I know that's not even awesome like baby momma's stuff if you wit me you know I'm out of work your DMS are about to be so crazy right now you have no idea especially all over the globe you're the first successful man to ever say this yo Dawg for real I want I want to be a provider that's what I feel like I was put on this planet for I love taking care of women okay like just in general I sent you the link yeah few others can be named Josh Adams yeah you make it hard for the dudes that work at Best Buy I'm sorry this is in my DNA I a lot of dudes I mean was the backlash from that you can show women loved it yeah women loved it and I said I but you can't you can't argue that as where I believe men are put here to be providers women are nurturers we together we're equals and that's like that's what we're here to do protectors and providers I agree so that's what I want to do for as many people with that I could possibly do it for it's like I don't I want to be able to provide for my community I want to be like to me that's the that's the epitome of a man I agree the only problem right now that's happening is that you kind of have this this female movement right right of we need to be treated equally and so forth honey for saying but if you ask these same women do you want men to stop paying rents paying for dinner opening the door and doing a bunch of things yeah rhetorically you know serve the chivalry most almost saying no I still want that but I don't see the contrast I don't see the issue you can't be totally equal if there are unequal aspects Oh fine what equal is when you talk about yin and yang just like I said that's why I said and I personally agree with women being treated but there are certain things that a woman can do that I'll never be able to do give birth simple is that like women aren't put on this planet to do what men do they're put on these plantings to do what men can't do thanks simple is that and that's where the Equality happens it's called being equally yoked so it's like the idea of like on the protector and the provider I'm the hunter and a gatherer you're the nurturer you're like I can't breastfeed I got nipples I don't know how to [ __ ] I got what they're for but I know what a woman's nipples are for for feeding for feeding yeah like I can't do that so therefore that's a level with that I need her she needs me you know I mean like it's that that's where the Equality lies and but if we want to get to like the workforce and pay absolutely that's I think women get paid more if anything I go to the idea of like women are superior beings they've been they can do way more [ __ ] that we can't do they're certain I don't care we're never gonna be able to give birth it's not gonna happen my bill they could put a child in us or what awesome weird [ __ ] but we don't have ovaries we don't have fallopian tubes yeah not yet but I'm just thousand years down the line when you and I are gone you think we're gonna have both sexual organs and manages oh like but then I do what I her mama died who when I grew up with with real asses they drop dinner who was on the Wheaties box living male 1 oh they think yeah you know in vitro yeah science fiction now designer babies are real you who you could decide the sex of your child you're right I mean you can you're good you could create twin let me remove it you could do all torps types of [ __ ] there's just absolute science fiction a hundred years let me rephrase it babe we are not naturally able to give birth as me and that's why women should be exalted women should be praised and they should in the equation even be a question like the fact that women are second-class citizens in this day and age are that's ridiculous I don't I don't consider women second second hand citizens in fact you know my my I know we don't but I'm saying like society does when you look at my staff men and women get treated completely the same you know I'm saying like I do not look at this excess higher why haven't we had a woman leader in America I think you just haven't had the right candidate come up yet that's what I think yeah I'm just like just like let me tell you something you know damn well growing up you and I did not think there's gonna be a black president in our life oh yeah absolutely you see I'm saying hey this is not us being racist it's just like a black president yeah okay but I'm just but I'm only making that point to say like until Obama came around and it was like I'm gonna let it happen again either I guarantee that I don't know that was a fluke and and a lot of people say it was he wasn't full black but I mean like it's it's ideas he was definitely looking like this idea like they won't let that happen again but all I'm saying is black people look at second-class citizens and so are women because the first-class citizen is the male angle of sex or an anglo-saxon male in our society and everyone else is looked at as beneath them and that's just [ __ ] [ __ ] and I believe women should have all the equality I think that you haven't you know Hillary Clinton even like Democrats weren't really feeling her because she was a warning no I don't think so cuz she was Hillary Clinton and she called you know blacks super predators and you know her husband you know locked up more black people than damn me or any other president yeah and a whole bunch of the [ __ ] and she just was not the greatest of candidates I don't know if you know but I think wala Kamala Harris I don't know people are really [ __ ] with her like that or not but I don't know if you have a female Barack Obama that person will probably get elected someone with that charisma I mean I'm just even saying even outside of out of politics like just how many the amount of women CEOs the Ronna you know like it's it's disproportion and this is sad the way that we view women in this society we don't exalt them as the Queen's that they should be you know TK Kirkland commented on your interview teacher the [ __ ] ke to them okay he's he's chilled out a little bit no Alexi I came up under TJ and him in the clubs the tight his where his comedy used to be he was literally pimping on stage like that was his I tells a [ __ ] that was his whole thing he said that that's how you enable person I've been there once I did that with my daughter's mother and she did had to work for five years it was the worst mistake of my [ __ ] life now everybody has their own lane everybody has their journey obviously did have the same experiences that I've had I really thought I was doing something because in life you you can't wait to start really getting some real money and take care of the woman you think that you might love so in my situation success met wretchedness and this is said Apple and I agree with GK he basically he kind of broke it down as like look I don't want to see you all des I need you to go to work I need you know this is and this is why did you go do so this is the other side of that conversation but when I say I want to be a provider that doesn't mean I want you to be lazy I want you to I want to be able to rock with you on your dreams I'm gonna help you accomplish all your goals right what do you want you what do you want a lingerie line you wanna a Children's Hospital charity you want to be a poet you wanna a yoga facility how can we do that together let me show you how to rock out a business plan let me show you let me help you put this portfolio together you want to get into real estate help I have the ability to help provide for that I don't want to just fund all your shopping sprees and vacations I ain't got free money for you and your girls just to go and party because I got a bag like no like I'm the type of woman I'm attracted to or leaders and goal setters and these are the type of women I mean these are type of people I want to be around from the artists that aside from the nonprofit's I'm a part of I like to donate time energy and funds to people who want to make themselves better so that TJ's issue I've been there before and that that's actually some of the most heartbreaking [ __ ] in the world when you really feel somebody is just leeching off you and fit like you thought this person was rocking with you and you want to provide for this person there's been many times where I've been in situations with a woman's car crib bag whatever she wants and then one she's unappreciative and then you watch her almost expect the [ __ ] they're like oh we're I didn't get this this month oh it's the car MA why why am i driving a 2012 it's 2015 [ __ ] you're taking the bus before no car right but it's like I've been like people I've had these conversations with people and it's like I can get you to 2016 78 but why you're like you not even show an initiative to be great I want I'm giving you every tool to be great and yeah and you just comfortable spinning my back I can't those type of women I can't deal with those like a people we've all we've all been there and the other day you could you know that's the horse to water principle right I mean you can teach us many many fish as I possibly can you could you could give a person but you know since we're talking about women you could you could give them okay yeah you want to do fashion okay sure I'll I'll pay for your hole right oh you know your hole first you know season collection storefront this or you want to do this I'll pay for this at the end I'm just going through the motions and not really doing [ __ ] you know I mean it's right that's heartbreaking yeah I mean cuz I want you to win I want you to be great I want to be I want I want to be the power couple I want to see you shine yeah and then when they don't usually these women have to already be on that grind before they meet you they're not gonna be a bum [ __ ] miss you will suddenly become like a [ __ ] entrepreneur it just doesn't have is it great I see some I see yeah think about okay well it means what you mean by that because I we all know some strippers who were looked down on for what they do for from their family their friends who are now business moguls right but is it the stripper who like comes in seven nights a week and is hustling her ass off or is the one that just comes in and makes barely enough to pay a rent and then basically sits the time what is the hustle in the strip club you're pretty much almost [ __ ] like so late to each's oh why they made hoecakes yeah like I'm saying you have hustlers and you have people who just matter I've known women who are just like yo like you know their TV is on like a box on the ground you know I'm talking about any of those a party look don't you watch us a little better than this all right there are a lot of people are coming but they be ramble happy oh yeah you know but the TV's on a box TV's on a box how you got a flat screen on the bottom right you know I mean like but they got some red bottoms yeah you know we've all know the girl you know we know the girl who lives in the projects we got that Gucci belt yeah the [ __ ] you doing with that Gucci belt like but that's because that's success that's that's that that will give me the likes quickly yeah the true hard work the true effort that's that's it's not even again we being precondition to believe I'd rather show off my success opposed to actually go within and really understand it from the inside so that that that go that's principles man that's that's tapping back in with the ancestors man like we don't that we lost that culture we lost that idea of like what is it and that's again as a father you like man I just want to teach my daughter that she doesn't need a man for anything now if she can eventually become with someone who says he wants to provide for her I hope she finds that but she don't need that she will never need anything from a man just based off of Who I am to her and that's not saying cuz I will do for her I'm gonna raise her and teach her that she can provide for herself so then when she wants to make the decision to find a mate that she can do it from a sink like I don't need you for nothing except for your unconditional love and that's ultimately what every relationship should be and like I said I've been on the other side of that where I think that's why I'll never be in a relationship begin telling I yeah I know people people look when they see me they have a preconceived notion of like oh I'm going to get more out of this I've never met I have since since my ex I have never met my ex-wife I've never met somebody that I feel like can enrich my life to make me a better person a woman a woman probably anybody but like she was probably the last person and I like mmm she elevated me in a way that I wasn't searching for I didn't go to a book to fight I'm like but I that with that type of love that type of relationship and Union was that was some [ __ ] was like oh [ __ ] I'm leveled up you know I mean everybody said like hey yo you Jews out of your league I mean you're probably not gonna find that with a while now girl definitely not er Mariah I'm not gonna find that you have but even like who else Oprah like who else who else who else is out there that could level me up what you eat I'm I'm at Mariah where else do I go let's take a look what are the most successful women out there I'll go find me some like array being pretty old I'm all about the Cougars mind woman what about the Coriana I feel like I'm Rihanna's amazing right but I can't grow from where I'm at like what's what's Rihanna gonna teach me like and that's all the only reason why I say that because Rihanna's a lot younger than me I mean I've met many Rihanna's you know I mean I've known Rihanna since she was a child she's like 30 now right yeah but I'm gonna be honest that she was a teenager she's 30 now and I'm the person you met back there is not the person she's like oh like I'm and I love brilliant amazing woman like but I'm she's not gonna elevate me to a level unlike Jan she took me to the next level like what do we even got money she got money yeah hey guys very interesting question like I'm trying to look up you know entertainer I'm entertaining yeah you know cuz John Lennon and Yoko Ono had a very interesting relationship right where where he you could tell that he really leaned on her right and really learned a lot from her absolutely and in the process Hey and even like that's why I found myself in the world of academia like not like I'm out there looking for you know professors the date or anything but it's just still like there's some way more intelligent women than me and way more refined and in tune in a line all of those amazing things but that's still the path that I'm on with my own oneness that's was like it goes like they're not hoping that you know I mean they're they cuz they own they own path right I got this point like Rihanna's trying to be Rihanna she looking to build into me she she's making hurt she's going on her billion-dollar hustle work cosmetics and music as she should and I sit back and salute that but me and Rihanna can't come together and create this Union of like like that's when you look at a J and be like that's really beautiful because they look like they complement each other when Beyonce elevated because of being be elevated because yes we're Swizz Beatz and Alicia key eautiful and another one yeah like but like where I'm at in my life there's no one that's gonna come in mind me like oh you did he doesn't hit it out the box now like I was with Mariah Carey yeah like you know where do you go after that like I'm good I did it it was great now I'm focusing on me I want to be the best father I could be I want to be the best leader in the community I want to be able to provide for others opportunities and this is gonna be my life for the rest of my life won't be awesome some Buddhist monk [ __ ] it's a very interesting analogy if you find me a woman if there's a woman out there I can elevate me DM me look cuz this is actually I mean it's an interesting like you know I'm going through the internet right now having some problems trying to meet the criteria that you're setting up I thought Rihanna was one cuz you know not only she really accomplished in music right sweeper accomplished but now the whole you got a lot of stuff a music line but I've done all of that like I'm not I'm not impressed by that like I got the bag like me and we on we can buy gifts for each other all day long right and we not gonna be moved by that we we don't we don't I've been to the met balls with the best of them I've been to the fashion shows out the photo shoots hey wait yeah I can't really see you the Nicki Minaj yeah what are we gonna can't see that hey now I would love to I love to hang out I'm knock it down I bet you would be a great sexual experience but sexual experiences I've had them yeah that's a threesome to foursomes dude I've done it that's been amazing yep how was that building me up as an individual how does that allowing me to tap into my sovereignty and to my to my somebody existence I mean like before Takashi six nine I got locked up right he did one of your copied a while and out that was his last job his last show right since last time I had his baby mother yay and I had her read the actual guilty stay get people to do this [ __ ] [Laughter] the defendants application under this agreement are as follows that he shall truthfully and completely disclose all information of the activities of himself and others to the US Attorney's Office that he will cook that he will cooperate fully with the New York City Police Department the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms homeland security investigations and other law enforcement agencies you want me to keep going yeah keep got now he shall attend all meetings of the office that he shall provide to the office upon request any document that shall truthfully testify before the grand jury or at any trial that he shall bring the offices attention all crimes which he has committed and that he shall commit no further crimes okay and just and read the next paragraph and that'll be it if the defendant does this the office and this is detailed on page four on pages 4 and 5 of the agreement agrees not to prosecute the defendant for the crime set forth in courts and counts 1 to 9 of superseding information as well as additional crimes that the defendant has told the government about that's some genius [ __ ] man well yeah how it started it's what I do is what I do for a living I talk almost 15 years this is what I did nothing like the thing is interested about Takashi six out of everyone y'all sitting here going back and forth about how like caught him a snitch snitch it yes what is that she's reading an actual court document [ __ ] that we're not privy to it's a public court document we don't know that though glad we watch glad we wouldn't know it and got that document off a court website but defected like this all I'm saying the form we know what we do we know the business we're like we are providing information to the public which can in some ways information that they're not privy to how even though it may be public know ain't nobody going to the law offices when I see it on blad like oh [ __ ] or when they're talking about Arquette whatever it is when the media puts it on loud TV it's it's accurate we don't we don't fake news without we're not April Wars she's sitting there snitching on the dude the father of her child talking [ __ ] yes but y'all talking about this what's interesting about this case is that although he ordered someone to do a shooting on camera right and he is in all these photos and videos or him committing crimes to these people some of these were over beefs that he started himself right he is now in a position to potentially tell on everybody and walk away without any prosecution himself first of all listen it's all dumb let's just start there like is dumb like where's like where who's the real gangster in all of this we know Daniel's not hey we know that we if anybody at any point thought the dude with the rainbow hair who was creeping a couple months ago who is now a blood like they had then there was like full-on and he was a [ __ ] at one point and like then all of like then he's he calls himself patrol dad ain't gangster ain't none of that that's never the code that we grew up on like you said this is a it's a war zone yeah people lose lives over this [ __ ] that like them that do that Takashi was playing around with so when you move like that and no point like we knew he was going we knew to fit Fat Joe told every we knew he was gonna get jammed up and we knew he was gonna sing when he got in there he was gonna get his canary all the way up so it's I'm not surprised by any of that to me was surprising again the enablers around you when you got if you how did we allow this to happen right ain't none of this like it will I mean his you know uh Sarah Sarah kind of broke it down I said where the whole blood thing come around before then has he ever claimed blood or gangs or anything like that no he was he was cool with some crib dudes but not that he was claiming it that's one thing he was never really gangbanging before he met the people he met he wasn't really some in know drugs he wasn't you know that's just not what he was doing okay so how did you feel when out of the blue suddenly he's got red rags and he's saying blood and he's waving it around and everything else like that um it made me question now how to accent I kill you blood like is this what you're doing now like I just want to know out of curiosity cuz he was going so hard with it um but he told me he wasn't and I guess it was just for fashion I guess like these do is that he's rolling with they're holding him down so I guess he's representing I don't know like that's how I saw it and like you talk to people like tradie and he was like I don't know who put soldier boy on you know I'm saying I don't know who put Chris Brown on yeah no disrespect to either one of them I'm just saying I don't know and that's not my bidding so I'm not a blood who was cosign I grew up in the neighborhood like I didn't want to get him but like even where I got my ass beat I got shot at for just living into the projects neck with these people you got shot up you never got hit nah I mean of course not but I mean like because you live where we lived at wheeler I live what they call the dick we live in in the Bay Vista projects and then interestingly enough I grew up in an area where the Lincoln Park blood gang but then I went to high school and that was closer to another blood like cuz you know San Diego was a majority Bloods and that created confrontation because where I grew the guys I grew up with I didn't go to school with and then so then as I also where were you really from your honor me no you overall did you oh you wasn't you wasn't saying you was from South East when you was in class you don't I mean like so I'm like I don't want to be from none of this I want to imitate I want to rap you know go to school yeah so even like even when we talk about oh yeah I heard your pops is such oh I heard what my cut like that type of stuff can get you killed just who you associate it with you know what I'm saying like it's it's still that lifestyle is not so it's and it's not smart it's not intelligent that's why I never want to glorify because we all went to school together we all grew up in the same block that none of us have real financial investment in we are all renters but we dying over this stuff because because I lived over here you lived over here I shot at you I hit you you hit me now you got hit like stupidity and then we glorify based on then we see how stupid is when someone who's not from it we allowed them to play with it because ultimately we're killing each other yeah what yeah for what it's not no money not a real money we killing each other for thousands I intervene right yes yeah yeah very very powerful powerful yeah people have said it's my their favorite more people have said that's their favor of live TV interview powerful because that's a real gangster who's hurt yeah by his Brookline his family his own brother was killed by another fellow blood all of these guys up under ten or eleven PI ruse Piru were killed so fear associating with death row yeah by other members by the same members that's endeavour oh wow death row was fighting the homies discussing at each other like this now kaylynn because they were fighting over money over the [ __ ] that [ __ ] was saying and doing over it over yeah they say not just the money now it's okay [ __ ] with my homie just my dog and now everybody is fighting each other you know what I'm saying and when when I tried to tell him that this [ __ ] is coming nobody wanted to listen to me why I'm like that's to me you know sugars my dude and and we have conversations and and I want to ask him that like how does I'm not gonna ask him over the phone yeah and I I mean but even like that's the thing I got should chill you the most open book he has no problem saying anything but but those are the real questions like even how does that sit with him at night you don't I mean when you ask those questions like think about all of the lives that were lost senselessly because what shaped like not even chasing a real bag nope not a writ like there's real bags are you like this mess even now I catch guys getting millions millions like back then like like packed I broke yeah you know what I'm supposed to these cars yeah like this late today we wouldn't even get like we get into the real money now late and nobody got to die we could provide we could build our communities up now like it's a real shift going on like if a couple cares if we come together we can rebuild the hood if nobody has to kill anybody anymore there's enough money to go around right now I guarantee you that we could feed all of our hoods where we can establish businesses on every block and we can all be legitimate we don't have to sell drugs to each other anymore yeah like we don't like if you out there with a gun selling drugs cuz you want to right now and because and today with all the cameras and DNA evidence and cell phone your locations and everything you're going to get caught and you can get put into modern day slavery yeah you want to be a slave actly but you know back to takashi he wanted to be a slave I mean he's telling on everyone and and Sara said something interesting he should because he's presenting himself as a victim with all these older guys okay so letting him but which I'm saying like really I kind of feel really sad cuz I feel like in a way these grown men manipulated by this little rainbow head kid it was manipulated by money it was manipulated by a lifestyle that they were now a part of just by being with him you know it was just like you said money and things will make people do a lot of things okay so I got a question is this the same baby mom that the other cats from his squad was messing with - I think after the interview came out you see someone from his crew that's it massive with her right yeah so okay if I'm Takashi right in this my baby mamas I have a child with um she out there talking yeah messing with cats a there's allegedly and then it wasn't there at this point where they were saying like the feds came to him and say like we're gonna take you him because we got tape of the your guy saying that they they want to take you out or something like that something like that like we got a hand to him or whatever the language will violate him yeah we're gonna violate them they got that on tape if I'm Daniel and the dudes I only known these dudes a couple years right my bake my child's mother is wildly yadda-yadda you're trying to hit me where it hurts you're threatening to kill me I don't I'm not from the street I don't know street code I just learned it from its prey I'm not gonna tell on you you're trying to kill me and you [ __ ] my baby mama supposed to do he's not a gangster yeah man this is where the maturity comes from because I have people around me they'll go beat someone up for me you know I mean they'll shoot shoot someone for me there's like that and it costs a lot to use your body people call me like Oh yo I see you got a problem so so you want me going and I don't want you to do that I want to show you calling me by my phones tapped don't call me with no horseshit listen this is what the maturity comes in and you know you haven't these dudes around you do all this [ __ ] on your behalf they work they did it and they and they did it and and here's the outcome that's could be predicted by by a blind man yeah I'm supposed to have empathy for the dudes who did why'd you do it and you would about the kill well I have more of a problem with the legal system because at the end of the day you know I brought up this comparison before if I go and sell you a kilo of cocaine and then I call the police to report you buying a kilo of cocaine from me and you go to prison for that and I walk away yes Donnie Brasco how but unless I'm already working for the police you know and there's a theory - that's akashi may have been in the hole in the fence the hole I sell all of them records so quick you know Takashi's de face I would I would walk away from selling you a kilo cocaine by telling on you and and I'm the actual plug yeah this is mind blowing - how brilliant would it be if Takashi cigs died was really the police the whole time wasn't surprised me yeah every Donnie Brasco for the day you know that'd be amazing if the hold but think about it he went in infiltrated so hella records hella quick like would have been at all that I was baking about daddy was the police the whole time listen people think I'm the police they definitely say I'm not the police but your platform you got people that will say anything to you sometimes to incriminate they sell because they do any for the cloud like this is the thing this is definitely the generation of the cloud trace chasers and you provide a perfect platform for cloud chasing mice people sitting here talking with DJ Vlad they get so much street credibility I know so many real real gangsters that's like man yo Vlad that flat like you like you the streets pay attention and people get respect either from giving every lies cuz you set with some real guys who are really trying to give cautionary tales of like yo don't do it I did everybody that I've never seen any oh geez that you talk to glorify the son of a wins ever and I've sat with big you yeah with Freeway Ricky Ross everybody oh joy Lil D like like that lost in like the sheer cliff yeah it goes I've had the most gangster actual og gangster interview and they're trying to say don't do what I did and we focus on that never ever glorify and then you got but you also interview some of these young cats who want to sit over stack somebody and talk about what they do it right I get it but it's all cloud chasing even even some of the old G's are like yo I'm trying to get my voice out here I've been in a box I've been I I have to I have to make right with my morals and society now so I need to say I was wrong so therefore maybe I can prevent the next generation from doing the stuff that I did so at the end of the day we are sitting here talking to you because either we're trying to reach the next generation or we're trying to clout chase like there's no other two reason to sit and talk with DJ blad I mean obviously the rapport and the relationships but this is the media so when we sit here there's a likely chance that we're gonna say something that we're gonna incriminate ourselves on there's this think about like how many times just from our interviews that I've I've had to deal with legal issues from just something I believe in something that I said something I've heard at least one that I know of yeah I can say it's three but what was really serious but the other ones were more like what I had to deal with myself yeah right so but it but it's like when people and even the street stuff as well this is like man we just sitting here having a conversation but the platform is so massive that even you know Malcolm X said it best Lee you gotta be careful with the media it's the most powerful thing in the world because it's it'll make your enemies look like your saviors and your saviors look like your enemies yeah do you think the Takashi well once he gets out will become a big rap star again or do you think that the snitching tag is gonna heal he's an entertainer he would continue to be an entertainer or the number one agent in the FBI I guess he won't be able to do the street stuff anymore but he can live in Amsterdam he can go he can go what if he's not to go to Amsterdam hey stay right here in America yeah but I'm saying he can go anywhere like he he first of all he can't touch him he defends like he is now cooperating with the police like I think someone might touch him if given the opportunity we got without security I think someone might touch him wait but that's what I'm saying like even if firstly he doesn't have to be an American he can choose he people get he's Latino people get touched yo did you see that why be an almighty J situation where you guys face slash 300 it wasn't before that when he was fighting in the streets yeah like he was walking through the streets what jewelry didn't he just beat somebody up like they jump somebody like I'm saying if to cut I just don't put anything beyond anybody John F Kennedy was killed yeah but the government killed him right it was government the Mafia we don't really know right yeah we don't really know John F Kennedy got killed you know and why being Almighty J he was done with rap a lot he was with a boogie man of hip-hop no J Prince yeah hit a rap a lot chain on at the time the kids don't care that [ __ ] don't care about that [ __ ] they don't know about they don't know their New York they don't care about some dude in Texas who's running [ __ ] pain and then then when J Prince put out that whole statement that made it even worse yeah cuz cuz I remember he put in my son's name and he's like my son was like why you put my name into criminal that's the thing man like even so this age of social media to say is [ __ ] the game up like yeah even gangsters are moving different like that's what I'm saying and jay printz is a real OG right this was a feared man right you know and I was like I don't understand why he was doing that social media [ __ ] movie silence yeah the leader of the black disciples a guy named big law was murdered in February hmm he was so below the radar that the newspaper there like the Chicago sun-times did not have a photo of him wow I had to really dig deep Wow I talked to like you know so my my BD homies right I located one photo of him at like some public event and I had to run that photo by a bunch of the biddies that I knew right and had them say yeah that's actually him Wow he did not have any social media he did not have any public photos he's not posing with the rappers or whoever I found one somewhat fuzzy photo of this guy and this was the leader of one of the biggest gangs right right oldest gangs in Chicago right this is you know and I remember TK Kirkland talked about how he's like back in in his day so here's the thing with these young kids you know I came up with a lot of hustlers lot hustlers and when you was out in the 80s and 90s and you took that picture you they saw the camera coming up they walked away if you got a picture of them they will follow you and say key oh can I have that camera back I can't have my picture taken that's that's really like the the media man is that this this idea of cloud chasing and notoriety especially for our community man it's it goes all the way back of wanting to be understood and accepted into a society that never accepted you in the first place so then when you get the opportunity to say not only am i a man but I'm a big man I'm a bad man I'm like bidding it's like oh I'm glorified I have this oh yeah and and that's it social media is is done that in a way that it is it's too much you know I remember speaking to this one when I was doing an American Gangster for B T on the Mac Dre episode yeah and I was talking to the detectives they were involved in investigating his murder we were talking about face tattoos and tear you know tear drop jobs attached to teardrops which was supposed to mean that you kill somebody hey one of the guys you know one of the head detective said it said 90% of these guys with teardrop tattoos didn't kill [ __ ] right they're just there for intimidation yeah you know the day they go in and tattoo now everyone's scared of them yeah you know so mission accomplished he said I investigate these guys I know their lives inside and out I've been investigating for decades right these guys didn't kill [ __ ] right right but they all have the tear drops yeah trying to scare people yeah same type of thing you do a flat TV interview now you talk about it and I can't yeah man I mean let me tell you a little G me little D talk all the time he was so happy about his interview yeah yeah you know I'm saying and then there's a [ __ ] room whether you got killed all right you know it's like it's all [ __ ] yeah it raises the whole status and that's the thing man like having these conversations especially if you not solid are you not good wherever you are it it can look like snitching it could look like talk too much you can look like unless you unless you certified or you can speak on the issue that you're talking about and that's like the majority of the people that I see on your platform Solly certified like those who do that I could say whatever the hell I want to say right yeah you're not gonna question mob gems you're not gonna question in trade II you know you hope you're not gonna question Lord Jamar just like even just based off of lakes they speaking from things from now you do a soldier boy but in as entertaining as that is he's still speaking his truth yeah he really shot somebody yeah like I'm gonna be the guy who who who got shot by him right like it may not be as dramatic how bout I start shooting bow shot the [ __ ] bow bow harden is run out the door they run out the dough and make that soldier boy shot me okay so you get into the conversation with soldier boy and he tells you y'all and get another yeah basically and that pissed me off for him didn't even tell me that to my face okay so when he told you that what happened next I slept oh okay open hand open here all right so then what happened after I slept off he reached for his pistol and started laying look he's just startling all his shots off I got hit fine time I'll go 16 that part wasn't in the original soldier knows what really happened yeah but and that fits of light we get only we get in front of the media manual and we were searching for something and and ultimately it's like that that says so much about society man and really what I asked me personally I'm looking to be enlightened you don't I mean I like we all sit back and we wonder what what are we here for what are we doing and and it's like it's it's unfortunate that you can reach levels of success with people I was on my own man you taught you got money so of course you like money don't mean nothing like I understand that concept but once you get to the point where you get I I've received even that's why I searched for my education like I want to get as much knowledge and information as possible because like you know at least I see that benefiting me in my life I see working out benefits me in my life hustling for fake money it does it doesn't help me like that that only creates problems I thought I used to think how stupid the more money more problems sound it when I didn't have any money until you really getting right yeah you have more money and yeah no problem you have more proud like it's it's I remember like I remember when like paying my cell phone bill was like my biggest problem and like my phone cut off like I wish it was that easy again I tell all like I tell people all the time like in my private life the story about how your nanny sued you cuz your two-year-old head-butted them yeah to me that is the absolute perfect analogy of what happens when you have money yes because if you were working at GM yeah your babysitter would not be suing but I got to go talk to lawyers and talk about whoa I don't think he intentionally keep that baby in the chair there's crawling out babies in contempt and you know that's why people with money don't [ __ ] with a lot of people and I said why and even as though that mean all the [ __ ] that Mariah's gaunt man with your Forex employees and all that shit's ins family her family all right her sister don't even be like like that I think that's where we connected a lot as well too because it's hard once you start to understand where people that you grew up in the same household with yeah people that you thought was going ride with you for life turn to the media I know people that don't [ __ ] with their twin sisters like their identical twin sister person looks just like you just like the chromosome yeah like I don't [ __ ] with her like that's crazy this the person dies the bad way but because because clout because it ain't even about the money no more because I could give you the bag right well it's about attention Mariah's sister has eight HIV positive net assist and I don't I tried to stay away out of her these store but I've heard the story like there I don't I stay out of it cuz it was never like I was there for her I was her support system so whatever she wants to if the family's not around you know yeah yeah cuz I'm there for her like I'm dwee squad like I don't if we ain't talking to sister we ain't talking to sister we ain't talking to brother waiter I'm with you whatever you tell me to do cuz I would expect the same thing I don't you don't I mean like well I would never speak on my family if like that's that was the Union in the bond so but from what I've heard you know from what the public knows I've heard those stories as well but even as same since way I've seen where like her siblings do interviews about her like we've all we've seen the interviews like I looked up to you I wanted to be you and now you talking [ __ ] about me to some party that don't know me for the rest of the world like that's heartbreaking and like to know like that's and it's not its attention we are chasing attention and that's and that goes back to me like we're not comfortable with who we are as people because we feel incomplete and we feel like there's something out there that could feed us into it it goes I think like it's like a saying where there was a you know to really be enlightened it's it makes you become more of an introvert you know you know before you're enlightened chop wood carry water you know once you get enlightened chop wood carry water it's just like you life is gonna be what it's gonna be but that ultimately understanding of who we are as people gonna disappoint you Humanity is gonna disappoint you always gonna get let down your family your friends no matter how much money you got no matter how much success you've achieved it still hurts the same well I mean when you see successful people when you see who they're surrounded by it's not necessarily other financially successful people but it's people who are who bring something alive in terms of positivity right you know in terms of hey you know learning and understanding like you know you and I don't just only have rich friends yeah you know but the people you know that we do have well-off and well-off in life that we learn from them but you once you get to a certain level you just can't hang out with some of your bummy friends you grew up with unless you're trying to elevate see I don't agree with that but but if I'm the light I gotta bring everybody with a man I've tried that and you gotta be the light they go like that's what I just said they're going to let you down yeah they're gonna disappoint you family is gonna disappoint it'll ask you for [ __ ] but you know and we're truly trying to be the enlightened ones if we're really trying to be the ones that are elevated and fly on the highest frequency we gotta bring them up we can't let the bottom feeders just be bottom feeders and low frequency riders like we gotta actually say I've been blessed so I can be a blessing now do I let them take me do I let them bring me down to their level no but it's still my goal to bring them as I elevate them as far as I could possibly elevate them now if they don't want to come it goes back to even when I was saying with the women like if you don't want to come if I'm giving you everything up this is the thing like I've been a part of women's lives that I've given them every book that I read things that have like change me I've soaked them with game money whatever like yo you're brilliant all you need to do is this this this and this I believe in you Donna and in one ear and out of it outside rappers right and here's the check the bag ruin it blame me okay but think about it though right you got to wear you got not because of this tight union with all the people you grew up with you had people like Will Smith that said hey I see some potential in you right and put my arm around you right facts and put you with certain people and so let me show you the game let me show you the game if you had been just around your neighborhood friends you would not be the Nick Cannon that we're speaking to right now facts it just is what it is but you I think you just made my point for me though like someone like Will Smith had to if he didn't bring me up then I wouldn't be able to bring others up like I got to pay that back what he did for me I got to do for as many people as possible yeah if I could say oh well now I'm not gonna go back to my block like I'm not gonna help the next kid out because so you still go back to your block yeah I mean community every week I got we never had any problems no I mean like my dad ran my nonprofit from down there like in like right next to the four corners at been for what we call you never had any haters any any sort of I have up the day I bought my first Rolls Royce I pulled it up all four five parked in the middle of South East out it was parked right there every single day no problems because I'm silent in my hood like I'm good like I give back I do I build up pay people like people who rents mortgages like I'm good like but that's everywhere I go like I go to the prison systems every like all it takes that one person who feels like they didn't get as much as everyone else but I've had the confrontations I've had these situations absolutely but that's but like I do said what you pay there's like oh I'm always good no no I never said everybody loves me right is but that's it it's we move how we move like you you you see what we got outside like it's not like we it's but it's not out it's not an intimidating thing here to evoke fear from either side but it's like we legitimately I don't I'm not one of those guys like all I made it I know I go to every community like we was in sac yesterday we got I go to Richmond I go to South East I go to Compton I go to light I'm in prison systems every every who it ain't let ain't I'm not scared of nothing in that I think real solid cats recognize that and then the knuckleheads that don't they still got a rapport to some real solid cat so when you when you move in circles and you it's good intentions like people know that I'm for the community and even like I mean cuz I study pop and he talked about that in ultimately you know when you start moving in a way that you're not for the community you become victim of the community but he was always like man I've been trying to rock with dudes and I'm trying to help them and they hate me but it's like if you offer that they're gonna approach the negativity is coming but you got to know how to switch that on on his head and I've had cats pull out on me I can't plug guns on you absolutely after after you got famous two three months ago three months will you had a gun pulled on 100% in in LA in LA yeah but not when I was put some cat in and it wasn't it was it was I like they didn't know once we got to the bottom of it and it was like you're you have armed security yeah so we doing everybody pull out but that's it's one of those things where okay yeah is it it's one of those things where it's not about who's tougher and all that it's like let's get to the bottle I what's really going on like like cuz that's the thing even an out in LA it's a it's such a strong cold out here you know how and if somebody's not abiding by the cold or where they're from and all of these things they you you move differently like we were shooting a movie you know in in a hood you know meaning and we thought we checked in and somebody security talked to this person that talked to this person and it took me having to go over to the do's and be like look out notice y'all hood we talked to this person we talked to it now those dudes today they do like been sit a while in our shadows then why guys we see we suit but when when it started like [ __ ] you ain't from around here and we matter of fact we heard you affiliated with some cats that really ain't from around here oh well alright well let's get to the bottom of this and really because we're not trying to disrespect your hood right you know I mean I was real like it was it's about to go down like they they jump out with him out like it wasn't like it it was like we looking for the other da da da and and it's their neighborhood so you got to deal with that in the same like even when we were shooting shy right but what was in the craziest thing we shooting shot right right this is in the middle of the street we in the middle of Inglewood is Chicago and we trying to do a scene outside it's right over there's a porch where it's like 15 dudes the cameras shooting this way and they've not feeling that we own a block and I'm talking like to see I'm like y'all talk to them like did you did anybody do they know late and I know nobody wants to go so you got these giants thank you you got police over down the block like somebody should go he's like what we don't want this isn't there Nate big we can't tell them to move off of their own well I was like it's like like I just gotta get the shot like I go over there and they're like no walk right up to 50 news like look what's up y'all like and see like what you always got to do you tap into the sincerity in the respected a moment and I just start talking to the og to get let money like I know this you're black I don't know if these dudes talk to you or whatever we just trying to do this we tryna get epoch by the end of the day they security for us hmm you know what I'm saying they just want to respect you they didn't they Oneonta took pictures with a babies I'm hanging I'm eating chicken in the mom's crib you know I mean like but if you if you operate out of fear they gonna sense that you already like like this what we trying to do like what we need to do to make this right you know I'm saying like and somebody who salat respects somebody else who's solid you if you move like you solid you ain't ever I know problems no matter what heard you go to yeah although things could have gone very badly but the guns being pulled and so forth they did it but that but that's it if you move shaky it's gonna go bad if I was a hothead if I was you got good we got guns there's no need to do all of that but if I'm like look we're trying to we don't want this to end in violence yeah we all want to go home at nights our family let's talk this out there you go Nick Cannon always a pleasure I wonder what's gonna come out of it hopefully no lawsuit hopefully no lawsuits I'm sure I'm sure I mean it date when Oprah that's what it is until next time nice yeah

Channel: djvlad

Views: 1,391,372

Keywords: VladTV, DJ Vlad, Interview, Hip-Hop, Rap, News, Gossip, Rumors, Drama, Nick Cannon

Id: Rg04eX7TAoo

Length: 155min 33sec (9333 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 17 2019