New Firmware: NDIv4 & SRT is here

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] hmm [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] hello and welcome to ptz optics live today we are excited to announce a brand new firmware let me pull this up that will bring ndi version 4 and srt to ptz optics cameras i have with me tess protesto my co-host hi tess how's it going hi paul happy friday ready for the new releases today excited to have you here we've got a giveaway today right we do one lucky winner is going to take home a ptz optics webcam 80 a 1080p webcam that is right and i also wanted to mention that this month of april every single person who buys a ptz camera from ptz optics will get a free webcam with their purchase you can learn more about that at ptzoptics.com um but also i really wanted to thank stephen haywood for being here steven is our broadcast engineer he's also on the product team this has been a big a big month for the product team working really hard to get these firmware releases are you excited about it stephen oh i'm really excited i'm a big fan of ndi so i'm really excited to see this uh come to fruition we also have a a group of folks on zoom thank you for being here everybody in the zoom room you'll be able to ask questions say hi collaborate with us but we're going to do a quick presentation first but thank you everybody for being here let's jump into the presentation so version four what is version four ndi version four well we're going to take a look at it today and you can upgrade the firmware of your camera by going to ptzoptics.com firmware finder to find the exact firmware for your camera make sure you do have the correct firmware before going through the upgrade process now steven something i wanted to talk to you about today and we're going to play a quick video about ndi but what's the main difference between srt and ndi because they seem to have pretty big differences what would you say just high level are the differences between ndi and srt well with ndi you're doing it local over your local network where srt is over the open internet you're you're essentially allowing us video signal to transmit over the internet and so those are the two i mean that's the major difference between the two yes i i would agree completely and with we're going to talk about srt and ndi today along with some other new features that are available in the cameras with the firmware that is available today but let's start with ndi version 4. so high level we have some video quality improvements uh with ndi version 4 that's going to make the cameras even lower latency the new tech is even saying lower than sdi in some cases new security features a new ndi discovery option and easier to use multicast support if you have an ndi camera you'll notice an entire new ndi configuration page and ndi version 4 is becoming a standard that will make ptz optics ndi hx cameras operate just like a normal or a full ndi camera so that opens up some new doors for integrations and stephen will show us a few of those today also the brand new super joy has firmware to enable ndi in it as well to control any ndi enabled cameras so we'll take a quick peek at that as well and when you install this new firmware you'll notice there is an ndi configuration area there's a couple things here that we wanted to show you guys and review quickly one is the local device name so this is the friendly name for your ndi camera that will show up in any ndi software so whether you're using obs or wirecast or even ndi studio this is what your camera name will be when it shows up in the software you have a local device channel and the interesting thing with that is that some cameras including the huddlecam hd ip a pro ip which is an ndi webcam have more than one video channels on the same ndi camera and so take a look at what that means you can have multiple channels we'll look at the ndi receive group which is a new security feature which allows you to restrict who on your network can actually see the ndi cameras and this is important i think for everyone to think about because ndi's becoming more popular and you might not want somebody in your church or somebody in your company who can learn about ndi to plug into your network and start operating the ptz cameras over ndi ndi is great because anyone can discover and use these sources but we want to talk a little bit today about securing those ndis sources down to specific computers with these ndi receive groups we'll look a little bit at the ndi discovery servers that are now available for more complex networks so if you have a more complex corporate or educational network sometimes these ndi discovery servers can help increase the ability to have those auto discovery features also if you're using a configuration without a router and you do not have a router in your system the ndi discovery server can be used in those scenarios there's also new multicast features that we'll we'll go over today as well which of course allows you to send the same signal of video to multiple users without increasing the bandwidth used on your multicast enabled network at work so with that being said mike's just going to mute the zoom until we figure out that um with that being said we have a quick video we're going to play to show off all the anti version 4 features and then we'll answer questions and review all of that now ndi version 4 is now available and it comes with massive improvements to video quality security and ndi hx compatibility ptz optics ndi cameras and our new super joy controller now have firmware available to support ndi version 4. this update includes massive improvements to ndihx which include lower latency full support for gpu decoding acceleration and support for the most advanced compression formats available today on top of great video improvements ptz optics ndi camera users will gain access to ndi groups to increase security custom naming to increase usability and new multicast features that are easier to use and more flexible than ever before simply put ndi version 4 sets up ptz optics camera users for the future by opening integrations that were once only available to certain ndi developers ptz optics ndi cameras now speak ndi fluently in the sense that ndi version 4 will only get better as the core ndi technology evolves the first thing you will notice once you upgrade an ndi camera with the latest firmware is a new ndi config tab this tab allows you to set up your local device name and channel this is where the device name will show up in any ndi compatible hardware or software like obs wirecast or vmix the channel name is particularly important for cameras that support multiple ndi channels like the huddlecam hd pro ip which supports two channels of ndi output for this camera you can see that two channels are available one for the wide angle reference view and one for the electronic pan tilt zoom view you will also notice an ndi receive group which is used for security and organizational purposes once you start using a lot of ndi sources on your network you may want to consider who has access to those sources especially if those sources include pan tilt zoom camera controls using ndi access manager you can set up custom receive groups so that only specific computers on your network can actually discover the ndi video sources on your network in this way you can set up your ptz cameras on a secure receive group name enter the receive group into ndi access manager on the computer you would like to receive the sources and you are done no other computers on your network will be able to see the ndi sources on your network unless you set up access manager with the custom receive group the cameras are set to this is a great way to protect your ndi sources from unwanted viewers or operators on your network to increase security on larger networks ndi version 4 also supports the freely available ndi discovery server which increases what you can do with ndi on complex networks it's also ideal for midi networks that do not have a router the discovery server allows you to point each camera to a discovery server on your network which can make ndi source discovery work smoother in some networking environments ndi version 4 also has a new auto generation tool for multicast ip addresses multicast is of course the technology that allows networks to send and receive multiple video feeds at the same time without congesting a network with on-demand video traffic but note you must have a properly configured multicast enabled network in order to use the new ndi multicast features ndi version 4 will open up hundreds of new integration possibilities including ndi control for the super joy and ndi tally lights as just two examples ptz optics ndi cameras should now work with almost any ndi integrations available today finally the latest ptz optics camera firmware hosts an array of other great feature updates including support for srt motion sync camera presets ntp ip synchronization and live video preview in most web browsers for a complete list of firmware updates you can check out ptzoptics.com firmware dash changelog thanks for taking the time to watch this video and don't forget to subscribe for more updates on ptz all right so wanted to quickly play that and i'm guessing this is my guess and i'd love to hear from the zoom audience let's let's pop them in as an overlay mic because i'd love to hear from the zoom audience if anyone's out there my guess is that most of you guys out there are not using ndi access manager and i'm wondering if anybody out there is thinking hmm i wonder if my ndi sources are secure and if somebody who could come in here uh have ever seen the ndi sources and maybe it's more technical and maybe nobody does well i don't know if anyone has a question there maybe steven you could chime in here but i don't think a lot of people are considering securing their ndi sources yeah i think a lot of people don't think about that because most people are doing these in in in somewhat of a locked environment whether it's a tr you know a house of worship a school or your own production studio uh you're not worried if somebody's gonna you know get onto your your system because most people like your neighbors aren't looking to hijack your feeds but in a corporate environment it may be something that you want to take a look at because uh you might be working on something top secret and other departments don't need to know about it yet because you're testing it so it i mean there's there's opportunities to implement this poll so hopefully that's clear and we'll go over it in more details but uh the ndi access manager is the way to secure your ndi feeds down to a specific computer so each computer turns it on with the cameras you set up the receive group and that then that way we can enable or disable who can see the feeds the other thing we mentioned were the ndi channels and some of you may know our sister company huddlecam hd but the new huddlecamhd pro ip now supports two ndi channels on the same camera and this one still just one ip address but that's where those channels come in where you can have a wide angle channel and electric or electronic zoom channel for example so we're looking at adding more channels into the cameras to add different functionalities for use over your network now if anyone's ever had discovery issues on their network they should probably look into the new ndi discovery server uh which again is for more complex networks and for those who maybe do not have a router that has been configured for ndi but in general and stephen you know you can comment on this in general ndi is supposed to just work right i mean there's most people don't have a need for these more advanced ndi discovery servers right absolutely i mean with the exception of you know again corporations and and networks that are highly sophisticated that are locked down uh most most users can you know with the exception of a occasional windows update it can get ndi signals fairly easily on any of their production tools and see the devices that they need to see absolutely paul so now let's transition over to srt and we're going to open this up to q a so right you know we're here to answer your questions but srt is a little bit different than ndi it was designed for a completely different you know feature it's designed to securely and reliably send video over the public area internet where ndi is great for your local area network srt will allow you to configure a ptz optics camera send it out anywhere with internet and actually be able to receive that video feed in a secure but also a fixed amount of latency so you could have three or four ptz optics cameras in the same space and now remotely produce and switch those cameras so it's quite interesting and currently our sdi and ndi cameras have this firmware to add the srt support and we're working it adding all of these together what should you know about srt well one is it is open source and that is why there's so many different software and hardware solutions that support it we're going to show you an srt feed that we're bringing into vmix right now but there is support for it in wirecast there's support in obs there's support in the tricaster there's 450 companies in the srt alliance and ptz optics is now going to be applying to become one of them that have built this into their systems and it's just really great it's got awesome uh h.264 and h.265 support 128-bit encryption excuse me and it's just great it's called srt and i'm going to give you an example of how to use it so let's say we've got three srt cameras ptz optics cameras ready to go we send those to a remote studio and that studio is able to receive them and switch them now there are some things to note and stephen i don't know if you want to fill in here but it's the ptz optics cameras support the srt listen functionality and you do need to have some networking capabilities to make this work yeah absolutely and so i know the listen kind of gets confusing you know for for people that don't know much about this technology but the listen function essentially uh you turn it on and you have to have a call an srt call on the other side essentially a vmix a wirecast tricaster obs whatever and basically when you turn that call on the camera is listening if you will for that for that connection to be able to establish the connection now there's also another protocol with that which would be called rendezvous where it's bi-directional so there's there's different technology and different terminology if you will with this technology that i know can get kind of confusing paul but it it helps to understand how that works so you know how your your equipment is going to work with this yeah so um with srt each video feed can have a fixed amount of latency and so when when we're sending video from here's an example maybe like a trade show booth back into a remote production studio srt it does a great job of negotiating back and forth with the sending and the receiving so the camera and your srt enabled software whether that be vmix wirecast or tricaster hundreds of different pieces of hardware that support it and if a packet gets lost along the way srt knows it and they're able to negotiate and reorder it now one thing that's really important when you're using ptz optics cameras with srt to make it frame accurate you should be using the ntp time servers so we can show that today i don't even think it's in my presentation we have a video that came out about it recently ntp time servers are basically its time and you can go to time.windows.com you can go to time.apple.com there's google's got lots of free time servers and essentially you can point the camera at a time server so that every single frame of video that is sent has a timestamp and so that when srt receives the video it knows how to organize every single frame and that's true for both ndi and srt we're now time stamping every frame and it really helps especially when you're trying to send or compress all of that send it over the public internet and decompress it and reorganize it into an optimized session which is what srt is doing so there's lots of great partners out there that support srt you probably know some of them and there's lots of applications for using srt so here's example one of using the public internet over srt now on the camera side if it's got access to internet you can send this thing out there plug the srt information in and you are good to go on the receiving side you may and this is your remote production studio you will need to go into your router and you will need to forward the udp traffic for a specific port and we're going to show you an example of how to do that today where we actually have another office with some srt video feeds and we're going to pull them in and we're going to show you how to do it but there's an easier way to do it and it's got some really interesting benefits is there's srt proxy servers and a proxy server means anyone can do this no networking knowledge at all the proxy server does all the negotiations for you and a couple of them that we recommend one is called media looks another is called srt mini server and they basically handle all of the traffic going in and out of your network on both sides so that there's no need for any networking skills at all so we can show you that as well so comparing ndi and srt together ndi has very low latency and it's ideal for live production on a local area network where srt has a fixed amount of latency but it's not a big deal we're transporting it over the public area internet to a remote site for remote production and that's kind of what you want there that fixed latency a couple other things before we do our live srt demo and open this up for support just so everybody knows we do have a five-year warranty on all the cameras the new firmware adds something called motion sync our lead engineer wanted me to make sure i mentioned this motion sync allows pan tilt and zoom for ptz camera presets to all happen at the same time and it adds another layer of professionalism to your production so if you've got the latest firmware go into the setup area and turn on motion sync to check that out the other new feature that we've been really excited about is called focal range support and this allows you to tell the camera a range in which you want the auto focus to operate and a prime example of this would be you could change the range from you know just all auto focus to a specific range of people on a stage and so if somebody walks in front of the camera uh that would be too close to have the camera change its auto focus so you can change the range between three and sixty feet and here's an example of you know choosing a range between like 6 and 12 feet and then the kids in the background are out of focus because they are too far away um here's another example of a range between like 30 and 42 feet where you know anyone walking in front of the cameras wouldn't be in in range but the performers on the stage are all inside of the focal range uh an oldie but a goodie this one's been around for a little while but still i wanted to make sure everyone knows about the focus lock if you've got a camera in and it's perfectly in focus exactly where you want it you can turn on the focus lock another one that's new and i wanted to explain this one uh is the improved web browser live video preview so if you have a ptz optics camera what you have to do is you just go to the second video stream is used for the live video preview and in order to make it work in google chrome and other web browsers you just need to turn the second video stream to mjpeg and so i wanted to just make sure we noted that and that there's a knowledge based article on how to do that it's very low latency video preview so you can operate the camera and move it all right we did it so now i want to show a quick view of our srt video feed that we have coming in from our main office in downing town so why don't we do that real quick this is an srt video feed and i want to show how we brought it in so i'll do that in just a second and basically this is coming in to vmix so vmix is a caller and the camera is a listener and so this is roughly about a 2.5 megabits per second two to three megabit per second stream coming over the public internet it's not an amazing uh you know high bit rate stream but it is pretty good mike if you come over to my screen share i'll show how i added it into my vmix production here so this is just a completely blank vmix production and mike i might ask you to just close that srt stream because i'm going to reopen it over here essentially this is going to be a caller the camera is a listener and i'm going to pop in the ip you know what i'm not sure if i'm supposed to be showing that ip address or not so i'm not going to do this sorry i'm a little bit worried that i might not be able to share that information i'll get in trouble so let's not do that i can't remember stephen if that's an outside ap address that i'm not supposed to share so i'm just going to err with a side of caution there yeah i would err on the side of caution with that as well yes so let's open it up to the i apologize i was about to show that and then i was like wait a second there is a tutorial though paul that vmix did that uh martin walks you through step by step through vmix on how to do it um so you guys can go check that out over on vmix's youtube channel perfect thank you for saving me there so let's open it up to question q a i really did want to show that but i was just not sure what i if i was allowed to show that or not we did show the live preview of the srt so hopefully that will be a good example of it um let's open it up to q a tess what are you thinking i don't even know where to begin we have so many questions in the chat so why don't i just go ahead and start on youtube okay i feel like i can scroll up because we thought within all that time we've gotten quite uh a lot of questions a lot of feedback okay i'm reading some of these are comments here will this firmware be changing the configuration points of rb channels and white balance the 6.3.12 kept my settings but the output changed oh steven i don't know what's your what's your thoughts there i might have to defer and get back to him on that one because i know that the settings are going to be erased when when the firmware is updated that that is something that i do know for a fact yeah but i think that you can back there's a backup you can export it portion of the of the firmware upgrade process so let's let's check on that um part of the firmware upgrade grade process is a backup and i i'm under the impression that that backup when you restore the backup at the last step of the firmware upgrade that it restores your your settings but let's uh if you don't mind stephen i want to double check that especially yeah so what's the double check here's one from um herm jan what is the delay of srt when running on a local area network that's a great question and i do want to definitely answer that one because there's basically three things that you need to think about when you're doing srt one of them is the latency right what is what is the latency that we're going to use um and then the other one is like what is the port number um so you got to think about that but the latency is fixed so you get to choose the latency and i actually know the technical term on how to figure out the ideal latency because it's a good question what should the latency be because you get to choose it the shorter the latency that you choose the less amount of time that the srt stream has to reorganize the packets because what's happening is it's pinging back and forth and going hey they'll just double checking here do i have all my packets we are using the public area internet did anything get lost okay something got lost okay need to reorder it need to reorder it and that's why it's so reliable that's what makes it so great so it makes it so much better than other technologies in fact it's going to be replacing rtmp likely for a lot of scenarios anyway how do you figure out what latency to choose since you get the choice to choose it uh and if you noticed on the vmix that i was showing you get to enter that in well what you do is you ping the device so you essentially so like if you're the camera and you're on site and you know you're going to send it to taiwan right you're going to send the srt video to taiwan well you say what is the public ip address of taiwan you actually go and you ping it and that's something you can do with any windows computer you can open the command prompt you can type in ping this ip address boom and when you start pinging it it starts to give you the amount of time that it takes for the ping to come back and that is an amount of time and usually it's an amount of time in milliseconds so you take the latency that it takes for to go all the way over to wherever you're sending it and you times it by four and that give that's the kind of recommended time that your latency should be usually it's about a quarter of a second right like 250 milliseconds uh because you know networks are fast you can go around the world with video traffic in a quarter of a second uh but if there's a congested network or something's in between that ping will tell you what the latency is and you just times it by four we've gotten a few uh variations of this question paul with the new ndi before how can that integrate with camera controllers and you know physical video switchers and the like yeah specifically we got a question about our ip joy g3 okay um well and i kind of wanted to spin that to the super joy but uh essentially uh ndi version four if there's any hardware out there that supports ndi technology ndi version four is where these cameras will act the same as any ndi device on the network in fact steven was using some ndi tally lights and with the new firmware they all started working before they weren't working because they were ndihx so this really makes the cameras operate as though it is a true ndi source on the network so with the super joy the super joy has ndi functionality on it the pt joy g3 does not support ndi but it will still work with our cameras so it's not really any additional latency or or doesn't change the functionality of at all i got a question from david and zoom about motion sync and that new feature does motion sync prevent the current pan tilt zoom behavior that we see with our cameras will the movement in all three axises uh end simultaneously yes that is the goal of motion sync so i'm glad you asked that question now when you get into when you upgrade the firmware you go into the ptz setup area you turn motion sync on you'll notice there's some adjustments there so you do have some adjustability of how motion sync works but yes it will achieve that the end point between preset one and two will all end at the same time so it's trigonometry it's pan tilt and zoom all ending at the same moment and you depending on you know some of the other settings that you have for pan tilt and zoom speeds already there's some there is some adjustability of that trigonometry another one we have coming in on zoom is is law is locked focused applied to each preset individually i lost paul thank you mike there we go sorry what was the question is locked focus applied to each preset individually focus lock no but and stephen correct me if i'm wrong but the new firmware does allow us to include focus with a preset right correct so it's not a focus lock but you can adjust the focus with a preset and that's generally used with the joystick so that you know when when it calls up this specific preset it will also call a specific focus uh and you can you can adjust it if need be okay we've another one coming in here on youtube how to use ndi cameras without a laptop how to use ndi cameras without a laptop i think this person's talking about like a tricaster or something uh well question about that there are some cloud-based streaming app options that are available where you can stream the cameras to easy live or other cloud-based switchers they're a little expensive it might be cheaper to just buy a laptop and obs in the long run but there are some benefits to having a cloud-based video production system in the cloud and you can switch in the cloud without a laptop i'm trying to think does um switcher studio which is ios based i was trying to look really quick because i haven't used it uh in a while i wonder if they support ndi i wonder if you'd be able to pull that in um through the network with an eye might have to get back to them on that it's not trigonometry it's quadrometry say jj you're right it's way beyond my technical skills i will include i will say that it certainly is and i just want to remind everybody if you'd like to get this firmware upgrade i will link in the chat where you can upgrade your cameras at looks like we got another question that just came in will the ipad controls be more responsive um no this will not affect the ipad controls i always thought that the ipad controls were very responsive even over wi-fi with the visca over ip that we're using um tcp is better than udp for a local area network in my opinion but uh no this will not have any effect on the ios apps for android apps here's a good one from john will there be any new ndi drivers needed with this ndi firmware upgrade it you know and that was something stephen that we were going to talk a little bit about it is probably worthwhile to update your ndi tools to version 4 uh 4.5 now not only is that good because uh there's new tools and one of them is an ndi screen capture tool an ndi hx screen capture tool uh but they will have uh the latest firmware uh drivers for the windows and mac computers so i think the recommendation is yes wouldn't you say steven yeah i've had issues where i didn't you know i i'm of the philosophy if it's not broke don't fix it you know type of scenario but i had an issue with one of the ndi screen captures overloading my network being acting and being really irresponsible i guess if you will with the way it was handling packets and it was causing my network to flood as soon as i updated the ndi tools it fixed all that so it's definitely something is when ndi comes out if you're using it heavily you definitely want to update the tools 100 well i think we can pull a giveaway winner as we uh finish up some of these questions if you're ready for that great let's do it let's pull the giveaway winner and we'll answer some more questions okay great well i pulled this up maybe you can address this one coming in from john are there new ndi oh no wait okay possible future show pros and cons of hardware versus software video switchers it's a great suggestion ben david's asking in listen mode you have to do port forwarding which can be difficult to accomplish in remote situations like hotel ballrooms will the firmware get caller mode at some point in the future caller mode we are looking at getting caller mode for the cameras currently we support the listener um functionality and as i said you know you may want to look into the proxy servers that the media looks proxy server is amazing not only does it support srt over the public internet but it has ndi in and out which may allows you to remotely control the ptz optics cameras from your from your studio so it adds a lot of functionality that srt by itself does not include so check out media looks and their srt transport function if you are in a remote scenario where you do not have access to you know the port forwarding necessary to use srt by itself our first winner is herm jam i feel like that might have been a name i addressed earlier too herm jam are you still here we remember you must be live in the chat and claim your prize someone's taking home a 1080p webcam today herm are you here go ahead and re-pick another one as well let's see what else do we have here questions if i have a dedicated switch just for the ndi cameras bought in december streaming from obs and haven't had issues what improvements can i note directly to upgrading to ndiahx v4 uh well i can let steven take this one but you know ndi version 4 um does have new video improvements uh lower latency and the ability to use your graphics card to decode the video so it will allow you to up lit grade to the latest compression format of ndi it will basically improve the video quality um so it would be a good idea to do it it's not going to break anything um you but you like like steven said you will need to get the latest nda tools along with the firmware for the camera is there anything else i missed a winner uh not really i mean even with the custom naming is is is always a plus right to be able to you know change the names of the cameras rather than seeing a bunch of ip addresses and things like that so that's always that's always a good a good thing to do but yeah you hit the nail on the head all right great well if there's no more questions we can wrap this up it's up to you guys though i mean if there's a couple extra questions i'm happy to answer them um you guys tell me yeah now if you'd like to um chip in in the zoom call this would be a good time feel free to unmute yourself herm won and it's here so congratulations i just allowed access to unmute yourself if anybody would like to unmute themselves and ask any final questions before we wrap up things today really quick somebody had asked earlier about the 20x usb ptz optics camera and if that was going to get this firmware and right now uh that currently isn't getting the firmware we're working on getting that here in the future but it it is being worked on so but this firmware is not for the the 20x usb yeah not not yet that it's check the ptzoptics.com changelog uh firmware changelog i think it is but it is coming pretty soon eventually our goal is to have it for every single camera right now it's the sdi and the ndi cameras that have this new upgrade and then uh it will be coming for the usb models but the the one question that i got about a usb camera which is something good to point out what if you have a usb ptz optics camera and you have upgraded it to ndi then can you access this firmware jonathan says yes really if you upgraded to ndi if you're upgrading it to ndi if you already have it upgraded mbi then technically it's in an ndi camera well uh you know as long uh i would have to refer to the support team on that uh yeah that's i would i would double check with that because from my understanding was ndi and sdi models so okay so let's get yeah let's get uh let's get confirmation on that for sure because that's a good question we don't want people breaking their cameras absolutely not all right well that was an awesome show thank you everyone for joining if there's no final questions we will uh we'll wrap it up all right guys thank you so much thanks everybody take care

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Published: Fri Apr 09 2021