(mummers) - Hi! How are you today friends? I hope you're having a wonderful day so far. My name is Bailey Sarian, and today is Monday which means it's Murder, Mystery & Makeup Monday! (theme song) If you are new here, hi, how are you? Every Monday I sit down, I
talk about a true crime story that’s been heavy on my... (tongue click) Noggin! And I do my makeup at the same time. My nose itches. Not doing drugs. If you’re interested in true
crime and you like makeup, I would highly suggest you
hit that subscribe button, because I’m here for you on Mondays. So do you like my Halloween backdrop? I'm probably gonna add some like light back here, 'cause you can’t really... It needs more light.
(heavy breathing) It needs more light! Okay, so, I wanted to pop in here really quick and just kinda give you a heads
up of what todays episode is, and also apologize for not
uploading the bonus video I had mentioned in last Mondays video. To make a long story short, the
editing didn’t get done in time and then...
(sigh) It just didn’t get done in time. Was a total bummer, I’m really sorry about that 'cause I was like "bonus video!",
and then it didn’t happen. So, I feel like an idiot, but that’s okay. Yeah, so I decided to upload
the bonus video today. It's still true crime related,
there’s still makeup going on. You'll see, you'll see. Calm your tits. But I wanted to hop in here and
say sorry about that lil' hiccup and then I also wanted to mention that I
did a collab with LOUD lacquer, nail polish. I had posted the promo video we did on my YouTube, I'll link it down below if
you’re interested in seeing it. But I released four different
nail colors with LOUD lacquer, this is one of them, this is Saint and Antidote, it’s the Aqua Tofana collection.
(slight laugh) Which is available right now. You get four nail polishes and I
think you’re really gonna like it. Again, in my description box, I'll also post
where you can find that if you’re interested. Okay, so todays video though. I had a special guest come on
and talk to me about true crime, tell me a story while I attempted
to do my makeup, my eyeshadow. Then it just turned into a little
bit of a conversation as well. And it was definitely different, I’ve
never done something like this before so. I wasn’t even sure. That’s why I wanted to upload it as a bonus video. I’ve never done a Monday video with
anybody else other than myself, so I wasn’t even sure like, how it
was gonna work out and I just... I was also really nervous.
(laughs) I couldn’t believe it, that I was talking
to, none other than Nancy flippin' Grace. Yeah, I said it. It’s probably in the title too, I don’t know yet. But Nancy Grace wanted to sit
down and talk about a new series that she’s been working on. I hope you enjoy todays little collab video. Next week, don’t worry, we will fully
begin the Halloween looks and whatnot. I will stop rambling and let's just get into it. It's Nancy grace. Wild! Hi Nancy! How are you today? - Thank you for inviting me.
(slight laugh) - Of course!
- I'm so thrilled to be with you. - I am so honored that you’re doing this with me. I mean you are somebody that I
have watched for many, many years. I was feeling very nervous at first because
it’s like two worlds are colliding and... It’s just so strange but,
I’m so happy you’re here, and I know my audience is
gonna be so excited as well. Can’t wait to hear about
what you’ve been working on. - I’ve been working a lot
on "Bloodline Detectives". - Yes, I’ve been hearing all about it. I’m very excited to watch the show, and today you’re going to be telling me
a story, which I’m very excited about, because I actually get to listen
to a story and do my makeup. - This is a story of a
beautiful, young, 30-ish lady, her name is Jodie-- I call her Jodie but its formally Jodine. Jodie Serrin. She lived in Carlsbad, California. Gorgeous and she had the
Farrah Fawcett hair, you know? The beautiful smile?
- Yes, mhm. - Now the thing about Jodine
was she was learning disabled. She functioned fine on her
own, she had her own condo, was beautifully kept, but she did
need people to give her rides, okay? It was very hard for her to negotiate, multiple
lanes of traffic, she couldn’t do that. So Jodine Serrin, and she’s the kind of woman that when she would write you, with like
and email or text, or an actual letter, she would always write a poem. - Aw. - And sometimes they’d be
elaborate, and sometimes they’d be "Roses are red, violets are blue, I want
you to know, today God is with you". She’s at home, alone, in her condo. Her parents come by. The parents go:
(knocking) at the door, nobody comes. Ring. The whole thing, she doesn’t
pick up her cellphone, nothing. The father gets worried. The father and mother get very worried. The father uses the pass key,
they have a key to her apartment, and they try to get in and the chain is on. Which means it had to be locked from within. - Mhm
- Then they know somethings horribly wrong. The dad breaks down the door to the condo, he comes in, he races up to Jodie’s bedroom, and there is a guy having sex with his daughter. I mean, she’s up her thirties, you know. He goes "Oh I’m so sorry!" and shuts the door. And he comes down and tells the mom "She’s with a guy, I think I know
him, let’s wait for them". So they sit there and wait for them to, you
know, get their clothes back on and come out. Well Jodie never comes out. Goes back up, Jodie Serrin is dead. - Oh my gosh.
- And not only that, not only that. She had been dead for at least 10 hours, which means--
- What!? - The killer was a necrophiliac. He was actually molesting the dead body.
(disgusted groan) - Wait, so the dad walked in on--
- Yeah. - Him having sex with his dead daughter? - But he didn’t realize his
daughter was already dead. She had been dead.
- Oh my gosh. - And of course you being a true crime aficionado know that based on the ambient
temperature in the room, compared with the rapidly descending
temperature of the human body-- - Mhm.
- You can determine the time and cause of death. - Right.
- Not cause, the time of death. So it was determined, based
on those factors and others, that she had been dead 10 hours before
father and mother even got there, and found a guy what they thought
was having sex with their daughter. And when they dad runs back up,
I’ll say 5/10 minutes passes, the daughters there, the man is gone. Interesting, no forced entry.
- Jeez. - So how did he get in? - So where'd he go out? Did he leave out the window?
- I don’t know how he got out. I don’t know. He'd had to have gone out a
window or somehow gotten by them to get out of the apartment very quietly. It’s probably the same way
he got in, very quietly. Except one telltale clue, which has
always disturbed me about this case. Jodie, like myself, I do not like people
clomping around our home in their shoes. So, there was a pair of men’s
tennis shoes, men’s shoes, at the front, when you open the front
door on the inside of the condo. Someone, she told somebody
to take their shoes off. Or somebody knew to take their shoes off. So they call the police, the police get there, they start analyzing the crime scene. - So it was someone that she knew then? 'Cause she invited them into the
house, and they took off their shoes, well it's assumed, right? - That’s what I would think. Now that is a matter of degree, how well do you know your--
- Mhm. - You mentioned your fiancé. Okay, how well do you know his siblings? How well do you know his friends? How well do you know their friends? You know them, like you go "Hey!",
but you don't really know them. So is this--
- That’s true, and they come in and they take off their shoes. So it's like, that doesn't necessarily
mean that she maybe knew him. - Exactly. So here we've got DNA, we've got sperm. They put it in CODIS, and again you
being the sleuther, you know that means the combined DNA index system,
where whenever you commit a felony, you have to give a mouth swab,
or it could be a blood test, and your DNA is forever in the DNA data bank. A lot of people for their jobs have
to give a DNA, or a fingerprint, and that's how there is a CODIS. So they match, they try to match
up the sperm, the DNA, and sperm. No match. Now what does that mean? - Really? - That means that either the
perp has never committed a crime, has committed crimes but was never caught, or committed crimes before CODIS was instituted, and they started routinely taking DNA. Could be any of those, which
basically tells me nothing. So fast forward--
- Right. - Fast forward, fast forward. We come up with DNA cutting edge technology. I'm trying to think of a way to tell you about it. It's not DNA technology,
it's more like a snapshot, to get a snapshot of the perp. And the way they do it, is
they can tell for instance, not necessarily your identity, but they can say "Oh this person is very very fair-skinned" "Oh this person uh...". It's called phenotyping. "Has light blue eyes".
- Yeah - "This person has red hair". "This person is a white male". They can basically reconstruct your
face to an extent with phenotyping. So they did that. They at least figured out it was a
white male, fair-skinned, bluish eyes. They knew that much.
- It's crazy that they could get that information just based off of DNA. Like I know and, in some cases, they
were able to get even last names just based off of the DNA
samples, or the phenotyping. - Yeah, the way that work-- The female scientists had
access to a data bank that she created this software
where she would put in DNA and it would rifle through and
come up with potential names, and the way they do the phenotyping is they take something called the "Y profile". Like, I know you know about mitochondrial DNA, where the mother's DNA can
identify you, this is the Y DNA, this is the male donor match to your DNA. - Wow.
- And we don't hear about it as much, but anyway that's how you get phenotyping. Still no answer, even though it was
run through the phenotyping software. Didn't get anything. Time passes, time passes. Long story short, along comes familial DNA, that's what really cracked this case wide open. Doing the match-up with the phenotyping, that scientists came up with about 10 or so names. Based on phenotyping, they
thought they ruled out one name, and they thought that it was like,
I think they said they thought that the guy must have come from Greece or Turkey and would not have been fair skinned,
with blue eyes, and red hair. So they ruled that phenotype out. They started looking at the-- That name out. They started looking at the other names. Then comes familial DNA, such as was
used in the Golden State Killer case, when they did that, they
found the name Dave Mabrito. Dave Mabrito was a transient, with a meth problem, did not hold on to a job,
lived in and about the area, he had relatives in the area, and catch this; sometime before, he had been
questioned about another crime, a robbery, and the cops said--
- Oh my gosh. - "Hey, do you mind if I take
your picture and get your DNA?", and so he said, "uh no" and they did, but because he turned out not
to be the robber in that case, it was never put in CODIS, it just sat there. - Nooo.
- So all of that time, there's the DNA sitting there-- - Oh no.
- And when they started looking at these names that came out of the software
program, and saw that, they raced, raced. They went to go get him; they find
out he had just killed himself. - Oh my gosh.
- They then had to try to find that long ago taken mouth swab,
to give the family some peace. And guess what? They put it together over 10 years
later, they cracked the case. - No way. - Jodie Serrin's killer.
- Wow. - Was caught and he's dead. We don't have to worry about him putting his foot through your kitchen window. - Wow, I mean how come they didn't
put his DNA into the system sooner? - I don't know, I don't know.
- I don’t get it! - I don't either. See, something like that,
it can be a week from now and I’ll have an agitated outburst, because it was just that much
longer the family had to suffer. The family--
- Right. - The mom says she has Jodie’s picture up, and every time she comes into
the home she speaks to Jodie. When I think about all the
years that they suffered, but it was solved, it was ultimately solved by investigators that never gave up. Yes, that was a major screw up by a different police department--
- Yeah. - That did not put it in, like
"Oh it's not him, we found the robber". I thank God and heaven they saved the oral swab and one day didn't say "Oh this
is not associated with anything" "I'm gonna throw it out, oh". In many other cases, when
familial DNA is isolated, you then have to get the DNA
from who you think it is. I was talking to Paul Holtz, remember him? He's the investigator that worked
the Golden State Killer case, one of many, but he was a lead investigator. It's not that they find DNA
and it links straight to you, they can find DNA dating back to like... And they have to work it all
the way back to, say the 1800s. And then go "Okay you're married to you, and you come down."
- Wow. - "Okay this is linked in, you come down". It's very tedious to use familial DNA, but because of it we are now solving cases that have long been believed to be unsolvable. And can I tell you from personal experience?
- Yeah. - My fiancé was murdered
shortly before our wedding, and I dropped out of school, I
didn't know what I was going to do, I was studying to be an English
Shakespearean literature professor, but I knew I could never go
and stay in a classroom again, I just couldn't. I had to do something. When I finally went back, it was to
become a crime fighter, a prosecutor. So I know what happened to Keith, he was at a construction site where
he was working over the summer, he left at lunchtime to go
get soft drinks for everybody, 'cause they were out in a field, when he came back in, a guy that had
worked for the construction company, and gotten fired before
Keith started working there, was standing there, sees the company truck, and unloads and murders him for nothing. - What? I'm so sorry. - The part of that, that is relevant now, is that I know what happened,
at least I have that, Jodie’s family had nothing. Their last memory was dad
coming and walking in on, what he thought was, a make-out session, and it was anything but, and the guilt he must have felt
all that time, and the mom too. We let him get away! How did he get away?
- Yeah. - He was right upstairs now he's gone. So the guilt and the suffering, they
must have lived through all those years. It's horrible.
- I know. I personally try not to read
too many unsolved cases, because they keep me up at night, just because it's like... Oh my gosh, I can't imagine
how the victims’ families feel and just not getting answers, and then
that's it, it's just never solved again. - And it goes cold, and it takes
either very, very dedicated detectives. I mean when I was prosecuting,
I would come in from, say, you know, a two
week/three week trial calendar where I hadn't even been in my office
at all for that period of time, I come back in and there would
be a stack of brand new files, maybe 150 of them on my
desk, so tall they fell over, and cascaded over the other side of the desk. I just look... I can't believe that I’ve got to
take care of all that right now, to either plead it out--
- Right. - Investigate it, or try it. There's so many cases, and
it's hard for detectives, especially in small jurisdictions, they
have to deal with the current cases, plus the cold cases, that's a lot. - It's so much. And then you have those investigators who aren't doing their jobs...
(slight laugh) For--
- Yes - Lord knows why.
- Every office has them. I remember when I would literally, literally, run down the hall at the courthouse, and we had a ramp going to the cafeteria. I'd say "Okay, wait, wait, wait, slow down", so I don't want to like go like
a cannonball down this ramp, and I would go in there and grab coffee, or real hot tea actually with milk in it, and when I turned around and there'd
be the same group of investigators sitting there drinking coffee
every time I went in there, whether it was to get coffee in the morning, to get a thing of soup at lunch,
I’m like why are they always there, smoking and drinking coffee? - Don't they have anything to do? Well apparently, not. (scoffs)
- They always do, but they'd rather just sit around for some reason, it drives me nuts. And it just feels like there's nothing you can do. - It's a feeling of powerless--
- Like what can we do? - Well, you know what? I'm glad you asked that. In "Bloodline Detectives", which I’m so proud of, we detail all these cases that
have been cracked by DNA advances, miraculous DNA advances based on blood. In the here and now, I’ve reported on so
many different kinds of cases, you know. Child attacks, home invasions,
robberies gone "wrong", like what was ever right with it to start with? That's why I wrote the book. I ended the book with protecting our elderly. My mom lives with us now,
after my dad passed away, and she was hacked. She gets robo calls, kept giving money--
- Yes. - To some fake orphanage that doesn't exist. I mean--
- Right. - She's truly a little old lady
and somebody is conning her. So I even have a chapter on that, about what can we do. I'm like you, I don't want to
just report on it, or talk about-- I want to do something about it. - Yes.
- And that's very important to me. - Me too. I mean, I feel like that's
why people love you so much, is because you just kind of
say what everyone's thinking, but you're also looking for ways to actually help and prevent things from happening, or what we can do, versus "Here's
the story okay have a good day", - "And next", that's what--
- Yeah - And they're telling this
horrible story then they go "and in other news", it's not just news, these are real stories with real people. - What do you say to people who are against giving their DNA samples? Because I know a lot of people
think it's a privacy concern, they don't want to give the government their DNA. - I understand why people are afraid
and why they don't want to do it, but when it comes down to cracking
cases and solving mysteries like this, murders, and remember the
people that gave the DNA, which turned out to be Mabrito's son and wife gave their DNA after he killed himself, they were asked to give
DNA and they did willingly. Just imagine that a case is solved
because your distant relative is guilty, it's not about you, it's about him. - How did the family feel? Did they know that their
husband, or their father was-- - No idea.
- Doing this? - They were...
- Oh no. - Can you imagine, and there's a very--
- No. Poignant moment in "Bloodline Detectives" where the families speak and talk about the Serrin's, Jodine Serrin's
family and the killer, Mabrito's family, totally
innocent son had no idea, the wife had no idea what had
happened, not even a clue. So that was especially devastating. Can you imagine if somebody you
love has already passed away and then you're confronted with evidence that they were not at all what
you thought they were they were, in fact a killer of all things? - I would have no-- I don't know what I would do. I don't know what I would do.
- I wouldn't believe it. I would not believe if my father... If anybody told me anything bad about my dad, I’d give him a knuckle sandwich, no mayo. (laughs)
But you know, it's hard to fight
with, it's hard to fight. Let me tell you what this match was, I
think it was 1 in 64 quintillion match. - Oh my gosh, wow.
- I didn't even know that was a real number, I thought I made that up, when
I was like "Hey quintillion". - Yeah. (laughs)
- I mean that's for real. - So what would you say is one of
those cases that just sticks with you? That you think about often? - Oh my goodness, I’ll tell you a
case that has always stuck with me, and it happened there, in California. It's a case and I talk about it in
"Don't be a victim", of Matthew Cecchi. Gorgeous little boy, just a little angel. He had gone to a picnic, a family reunion
picnic, on the beach in California. His aunt walked him to the public
bathroom, and she waited outside, and then she waited and waited. She went in, and someone had
murdered this little boy. I mean--
- What? - Of all things, why would you do that? Why? - How do you stay positive, I guess? Or not just go completely mental with
all this bad around you all the time? - Well I gotta tell you, after
my fiancé Keith was murdered, and I became a crime fighter I was
totally consumed with mourning him, and grief for many, many years. I didn't care about anything, nothing, except putting bad guys behind
bars, where they need to be. Every time a jury would say "Guilty", it wasn't jubilation or
celebration; I didn't feel that. I feel like this.
(relieving sigh) One down. And I would go get the next file. There was never a break, I didn't want to break, I wanted as many cases, as many violent crimes as I could possibly handle. With each case, I would feel that I was putting a band-aid on the victim's
family, but what I didn't get, I was really putting the band-aid on me, because it made me feel a little stronger, a little better, a little more empowered, and I did that for as you know over 10 years. Now here's the kicker, it took me-- Gosh, over 20 years since his murder before I could reconcile myself to
consider remarriage, or children, which is what I really wanted, but every time I thought about it
or tried to take a step toward, it would just throw me into a horrible
depression, I just couldn't do it. Finally did it, and that took a lot of-- When I remember walking down the aisle, and I looked at David, and my dad was with me. My dad lived to walk me down the aisle, which he never thought was going to happen.
(laughs) For just one moment, I really
wanted to run the other way, and I didn't, but now I have the twins, John David and Lucy, and because of them, it has shifted my focus, from a time I didn't even care about myself, now all I think about is the joy I
can give them, or create for them, and it's really changed my life. - Aw.
- It's the best thing that's happened to me on this earth. I am devoted to protecting
them and taking care of them for the rest of my life. - Aw I love that. - You know another thing you said about how you keep going and how you st-- I think it's your focus. I internalize all the facts,
the DNA, the legal arguments, the nuance of the case, the details of the case, but everything is evidence. Where is it gonna to get me? How can I use this? I'm always thinking about building the case. Do we have the right perp? Who is the perp? What are my clues? What is my evidence? Who do I think it is? How can I narrow that down? It's like a million questions happening at once, that's the way, the only way, I can
evaluate the cases and keep going. - Does it ever bleed into
your personal life though? - Every day.
- Where maybe-- I know I find I have such a
hard time finding a balance. I'm that girl at a party
who will tell you everything about a serial killer or a recent killing, and sometimes it can be a little much for people, and I just don't know how to shut it down.
- No, what’s wrong with them? If I’m not talking about murder at
a dinner party, I have to leave-- - That’s what I’m saying.
- That’s boring. - I know, I’m like "Isn't
it fascinating to you guys?" like "Don't you want to know?", and I just don’t understand when people don’t like it.
- It's like a puzzle. It's a puzzle to me.
- Yes! - And I love it. In fact, that was an after effect of being, you know, in the DA's office. If I’m not talking about
crime, I’m just not interested, unless I’m talking to the twins,
about what happened at school. Oh and yes, I’ve already driven
through their parking lot today to make sure nobody's blown the place up at school.
(slight laugh) Yeah that's right. - I feel like I would be that person.
- And I have on my phone their schedule, I know what class they're in during-- It makes me feel better. (laughs)
It does change the way you live, because you-- - What's gonna happen when they start dating? - What? When? Who?
(laughs) - I don't know, are you gonna be like "Come here, I need to interview you first".
- When they turn 35, they can do whatever they want to. - What about Casey Anthony?
- Oh! You know what? - I am so surprised that she-- This sounds mean, but I’m still surprised that no one has kicked her ass or beat her up like.
- Or anything? No.
- Yeah. - But the worst thing, the most
they've done is buy her shots, when she shows up at bars in a pair of hot pants. It sounds like, what was happening, while we were "looking" for Kelly, remember that? - Yes, yes, I remember watching--
- The "babysitter" took Kelly and so... Top mom Casey Anthony--
- Yeah. - Looked under every bar stool
in Orlando trying to find her. - I think that's the most frustrating case to me because it's obvious she did it--
- It's so obvious. - And then she had the balls to blame her father. - Oh, wait I gotta tell you
something about her dad and mom. George and Cindy Anthony, I know
they hated me the whole trial, I’m fine with that, I’m not in this to be voted Miss Sweet Potato Queen, Miss
Congeniality at the end of the trial. Don't care. But I’ve met with them and I’ve got to tell you, the world saw them at the
worst time of their lives. They had really taken Kelly in, they were the ones working the long hours to support Kelly, and top mama she sat on the
sofa having chips all day long. So, they loved Kelly as if
she were their own child, they were all about Kelly and raising Kelly. Cindy wanted to take Kelly and let
top mom just go do her own thing, go, you know, party on. Long story short, I’ve met
with them, the world saw them, with the media literally in their front yard, they were in the process of losing
not only their granddaughter, but their daughter. - Yeah. It looked awful, they looked-- They did not do them justice,
they're actually really nice people and this has just been a
horrible dark cloud over them that just doesn't seem to lift. They've really been to hell and back. I feel really badly for them. I like the Anthony's, both of them. - Yeah, I couldn't imagine having to deal with a loss of your grandchild,
and then having to face that maybe your daughter, your own
daughter, may have done it. I don't know how any of us would act, honestly. - I don’t.
- And I hate when the media kind of rips them apart, because it's like, well how
would you act in that situation? - Do you remember that night that, I
think it was in the afternoon actually, because it was daylight
hours as I recall the video, George Anthony comes outside and I thought he was gonna deck a reporter, they were in his yard, like
hundreds of reporters out there, all up by his door. Oh, he couldn't even walk up the driveway without them approaching him and yelling, and he had a fit, he really
blessed him out and yelled him. And that clip was shown over and over and over, and I was showing it one night on the HLN program, and I looked at his face,
and I thought that poor guy. This was before the case had been
cracked and Kelly had been found. What that family was living through, I mean. But I’ll tell you another
thing, now how did I know this? Okay, I know this because the bail bondsman, one of them that was working on the case, had a female colleague that was
supposed to be watching top mom because you know, she got
arrested on something minor, she made bond and they were staying with her, so that female bondsman says
when top mom, Casey Anthony, gets bonded out of jail, this
is before they find the body, comes in, the first thing she said,
"What'd you make for dinner mom?". (laughs) Oh I would totally tell that
in court, absolutely tell that and if that did not reach a jury, that would, I would have
definitely told the jury that. Not "What have you learned about Kelly?", "I can't eat. I can't think. I
can't sleep. Where is Kelly?" "You got to help me. We got to go out right now." "I can't stay on the sofa,
I got to get up, got to go". What mom in their right
mind would not be out there beating the street, begging,
screaming, going on tv, "Where's my baby? Where's my baby?". - A guilty mom?
- "What'd ya cook for dinner mom?". - I mean, I still, till this
day, I don't quite understand how she wasn't found guilty at all. Like it just never made sense to me, and that whole case just will keep me up. - This is what I think happened;
I don't believe she meant, necessarily, to kill Kelly. I think that she was making homemade chloroform and dosing Kelly. - Oh.
- She was dosing her to make her sleep. And would put her in the car
trunk, or put her somewhere alone and make her sleep, so she,
top mom, could be free. She was using either chloroform,
'cause there were the searches for how do you make homemade chloroform, or it could have been, at some points Benadryl. I don't know what all she may have been using, but I think she used something,
probably chloroform, to dose Kelly, and she had duct taped her and she died.
- Jeez. - She died. Now that in itself is felony murder. It's actual--
- Yeah. - It's actual malice murder
because the law presumes you intend the natural consequence of your act, for instance, I use this with a jury,
you pick up a piece of fine china, you know, the kind you can kind of see through and throw it to the cement floor and you went "Oh I didn't mean to break it", well the
law presumes you intended to break it, that's the natural consequence of your act. If I hold a gun up to you and
pull the trigger and shoot you, I’m like "Oh I was just
trying to scare her", no no, the law presumes you intend the
natural consequence of your act, so you chloroform a two-year-old baby girl and wrap her face and duct tape and
leave her in the car trunk and she dies, that's murder. - Jeez, I didn't even think about that. She probably was like putting a
homemade chloroform on her and making her go to bed. - That’s my best guess.
- I always thought it was just maybe like Benadryl, but that makes more sense.
- Yeah, yeah. Which, oh, when you said Benadryl, I write about-- That's in here, believe it or not,
because when I started researching babysitters and nannies from
hell and daycare dangers. What to spot? What to look for? How to protect your child? There were many many cases where daycares, and especially these unlicensed home babysitters that have like four or five children in the home, they dope the children up with
Benadryl and make them fall asleep, and take naps so they don't have
to deal with them all day long, and there have been--
- You're kidding. - Several fatalities because of that. - Oh my goodness. - There are lots of cases like
that where the child dies, they OD, or they are in a position like, let's just say a car seat, you
let the child sleep in a car seat and they're so whacked out
on Benadryl, they do that and then they die of positional asphyxia. You suffocate because of your
position, that cuts off your airflow. - Jeez.
- So that's another way it can affect children. - So, moral of the story is just let your
kids be kids and not give them drugs. - Yes, yes. - Jeez.
- And beware, beware the babysitter. - What's something you would look out for, for signs of a babysitter
potentially doing that to your child? - Number one--
- How would you know? - Run their rap sheet. It only costs $25 to get it, also
look at their driving history, also you can get that. Here's something that happened
to me, I had a gap hour where I would have to leave to go work at night and between my husband getting home, and I was trying to find somebody
to just watch them one hour. Of course I’d have the nanny cam
about three inches up their rear end, but I still wanted the
greatest person I could find. So, I interviewed these three
sisters, three adult sisters, really nice, great resumes, well they smelled. Said "Do either of y'all smoke?". Because you know, nicotine
is a contributor to SID, sudden infant death syndrome,
and they're like "No". Well, I wanted to meet them a second time, not make a decision on one meeting, and I remember I met them in a parking lot, out in the middle of a parking lot.
- Yeah. - I got out of my car, I went
over there, they opened the door, and it reeked of cigarette smoke, and I thought, not that that's the end of the world, but
I thought if they would lie about that... If I can't trust them in something small--
- Yeah. - How can I trust them with the
greatest treasure I’ve ever had? The twins. So I marched my rear end back to my car and slammed the door and took
off, that was a no-go right there. But run rap sheet, run driving
history, go online look at them. You'll be surprised what you find on Insta, and --
- I know. Twitter and Facebook about how devoted they are, and then you see them doing a
line of coke on the weekend. No, you don't want that. - Yeah.
- There are so many other things, such as surprise visits. - How would you feel if they outsourced help? They got regular people to help solve crimes? - I'd be thrilled. - Me too! I'm waiting for this opportunity;
I feel like I could get s--t done if they would just allow me-- - Oh I know you could.
- To get s--t done for them. Yes!
- I know you could. Because you have a desire.
- Yes, yes. There are so many of us out there
that are very passionate about this, and we just want to lock
the bad guys, or girls up, and it's like just let me do it, because
the police move at such a slow pace, the whole system does, it drives me nuts. - And a lot of that the slow pace
is because of our constitution, there are so many protections in
the constitution for the defendant, none for the victim. And I get it, and I’m fine with that, but it makes for a very long and
laborious process to get to justice. - We need a balance, it's like yes,
we need our constitutional rights, but I also want to get the bad guy, so. - I agree.
- How do we find a balance? - I agree.
(groan) - Well thank you so much for
sitting down and chatting with me. I feel like I could sit here and talk forever about every case I have on my brain right now. - I had so much fun. - Yes, I can’t wait to--
- I hope you like "Bloodline Detectives". I hope you really love it.
- Yes! I am very excited because this whole
using DNA to solve crimes is everything. There isn't many unsolved
cases, I’m assuming, right? They're all solved cases? - Oh, with these-- Well, I’m not going to tell you the end. - Yeah, I don't want to hear the answers.
- I'm not a spoiler. - 'Cause I wanna watch it.
(laughs) - You’re gonna love it, I hope you love it.
- Well, thank you so much for sitting down. Oh I will, I love anything true crime
related, so I know I’ll love it, and I know my audience will too. If it wasn't for you, I really
wouldn't be here right now, because you really came out
swinging giving your opinion, a strong woman who wasn't gonna
change anything for no man. You just came in you did your thing. You're like "I want these guys locked up" "and I’m not gonna do anything for you people," "I’m not gonna change anything",
and you've just been like that since day one and that I respect, because it's hard not to change yourself to please the people behind
the camera or whatever. - You're right.
- It's incredible. - That's hard.
(clapping) - It is!
- And I really appreciate what you said, that means a lot to me, thank you. So that, I guess that's my final advice;
eye on the prize, eye own the prize. - I like that, I like that. Well thank you so much Nancy.
- Bye! - I hope you have a great rest of your day.
- Thank you dear! Yeah, I got to go spy on the twins pronto. - All right, well thank you, have
a good day, we'll see you later! - Bye dear, thank you! - Okay! Thank you, guys, so much for
hanging out with me today. Let me know, is this something
you would like to see more of? Like maybe we can have guests come on,
tell me a story while I do my makeup. Idea. Idea! Let me know down below. Don't forget to check out "Bloodline
Detectives", starting October 3rd. I'm going to leave down the
description box where you can find it, it's super interesting. I got a little sneak peek to the first episode. I’m not sure if I could say that
or not, but it's really good, it's all based on DNA, and oh, it's fascinating. Fascinating! I hope you have a good day today. You make good choices. A big thank you to Nancy Grace for
sitting down with, f---ing me man, who the hell am I? Hope you have a good day. You make good choices. And I’ll be seeing you guys later! Bye! (suspicious music)
Has anyone listened to the podcast You're Wrong About? They did a deep dive on Nancy Grace and oooooh boy is she a treat.
I was a huge fan of Nancy grace. Until she reported on the death of my 3 year old niece. My niece was murdered and Nancy called her a “freezer tot.” I commented this on baileys video and she deleted the comment. Nancy is a trash person and I’ll never forget what she said about my baby niece. Makes me sick
I helped a friend who's coworker was viciously murdered by her husband as in chopped into parts and strewn by a road. Nancy Grace called her a mail order bride because she immigrated from the Philippines. F her.
I just want you all to know that we do, in fact, get to hear Nancy Grace say “TOT MOM CASEY ANTHONY” in this video
Nay nay, I say :(
Oof. I love Bailey, but...Nancy Grace? If you want to be infuriated, watch Nancy’s interview with Elizabeth Smart. So condescending and drama-hungry. Idk, I haven’t watched Bailey’s video yet, so I guess I can’t make a judgement yet, but my initial reaction was one of distaste : /
I don't know who Nancy Grace is (Irish) but I did not enjoy this format. The cold case bit was so lacklustre to me and I stopped watching half way through. I looked at the time and realised I should go to bed and staying up to watch the rest of the video was not worth it. Admittedly that was two hours ago and I'm still awake on reddit so 🤡
I’m reading the comments on the video and I’m dying inside ... “omg Nancy my queen I love her😍” like.... she is literally a garbage person . So disappointed in Bailey for collabing with her and clearly not doing any research about her history ...
oh Bailey, oh no, I was not expecting Nancy Grace to be her special guest... eek