MoistCr1tikal Reacts to The Lost Colony of Roanoke by LEMMiNO with Twitch Chat

but that's not me no [ __ ] it we'll go in near the end of the 16th century a man by the name of john white embarked on a transatlantic voyage [Music] his destination island of roanoke along the southeastern coast of north america on this island white had established an english colony some three years before and he was now returning to resume governor after a long and difficult journey white finally reached the colony only to find the more than 100 men women and children he'd left behind had disappeared a secret message carved into a tree was one of the only clues left behind at the scene before white had a chance to conduct a more extensive search the ship returned to england and in its wake it left a mystery what happened to the lost colony of roanoke i think i know the conclusion so i'm just gonna say it i don't remember if this is right since it's been so long and i actually haven't watched this video i was wrong begins in 1584 when two ships sailed across the atlantic to scout for a suitable location for the planting of the first permanent english college tier one bunch of eggs in the tier one july they made land enjoyable the english quickly developed friendly relations with the local native americans and were soon invited to their village on roanoke island after about a month the scouting expedition returned to their ships and sailed back to england upon the expedition's return in late september the man in charge of the enterprise walter raleigh immediately began preparations to plant a permanent colony somewhere along the outer banks raleigh was soon thereafter knighted by queen elizabeth the first new land was to be named virginia in honor of the virgin queen in april of 1585 a fleet of seven ships departed england with a compliment of roughly 600 men and loaded with enough provisions to sustain the colony for about the year the fleet reached the outer banks at the end of june but was soon phased i know nothing about it navigating the waters of the outer banks can be notoriously treacherous as indicated by these sinking ships and when the flagship passed through one of the shallow inlets it struck a shoal and was nearly destroyed as the flagship carried the bulk of the provisions and most of it was now spoiled by seawater the scope of the colony had to be dramatically reduced about 100 men far fewer than initially intended were stationed on roanoke island and with the natives approval they began construction of what was to become the roanoke colony the island was primarily chosen for its strategic value it provided quick access to the ocean while still making the colony invisible to spanish patrols you see spain had already colonized the late claim to much of what the english now called virginia so they had to be careful old war [ __ ] is so [ __ ] cool to me a second wave of supplies and reinforcements was expected they get the 20 gift subs again unbeknownst to the colonists countermanded by the queen to deal with more pressing concerns back in england as such once the colonists ran out of food they had to rely on the generosity of the nature appreciate the fat travelers always thank you so much despair and struggled to meet increasing demands by the colonists this over dependence quickly began to strain their relationship meanwhile people had begun to notice a disturbing trend every time the english visited a native american village many of its inhabitants would inexplicably collapse and die the natives believe the english could kill from a distance by shooting invisible bullets and they were not too far off while unknown at the time the english were carrying deadly pathogens to which the natives lacked immunity and thus an epidemic was unwittingly unleashed upon the indigenous population the two leaders back on roanoke colonial governor ralph lane and indian chieftain wengena eventually grew so suspicious of one another that co-habitation was no longer possible when gina decided to remove his people from the island and retreated to a larger village on the mainland meanwhile lane came to believe that when gina had formed an alliance with other tribes that they were plotting to launch an attack against the colony whether he was parodied lane decided to take pre-emptive action on the first of june of 1586 lane and his men made their way to the mainland no i'm pretty sure it has a real explanation i think they just moved they literally left and chased after and decapitated when gina and his head was later impaled outside the forge holy [ __ ] colony a week later along with a true fleet commanded by the renowned sea captain sir francis drake dropped by the outer banks on its way back to england given the lack of food and violence it was decided to abandon the economy the colonists were hastily evacuated then after nine long months they all returned home all except three who were not located in time for the evacuation and so the fleet left them behind they were never heard from again if the scouting expedition of 1584 had been a resounding success the colony of 1585 was a categorical failure relations with the native americans had completely fallen apart the severe lack of food had made life miserable and they had failed to track down rumored sources of gold and copper which could have made the venture worthwhile in spite of all this at least one man but at least they found friends his name was john white white was a painter and artist through some tigers and pseudo so far were either drawn by him or based on his work somewhat ironically however there are no surviving portraits of white himself white's participation in these earlier voyages is slightly ambiguous had been part of the scouting expedition in 1584 but he was definitely part of the voyage in 85. what is a bit unclear is whether he stayed behind at the colony or returned to england with the outbound fleet for instance white's name is not included in a surviving list of all the colonists but some historians believe this is merely an oversight and that he was in fact part of the colony in either case sir walter raleigh was eventually persuaded by white and others to attempt a second venture unlike the first colony which had been more what if roanoke grew so advanced that they actually were able to build teleportation and teleported out after a long struggle to secure the necessary funding a fleet of three ships commanded by white who would also serve as the governor of the colony deported england in late spring of 1587. thanks thank you so can go so in the recep senpai thanks a long time of watching the misfortune of the first colony did not end with its evacuation in 1586 only days later a ship filled with provisions sent by sir walter raleigh arrived at the outer banks the crew spent some time so this was such a hollowness [ __ ] when they found out scary adventure going from place to place the same thing happened two weeks later when an english-bound fleet loaded with supplies and reinforcements also found the colony deserted unwilling to leave the colony vacant however the captain left 15 crewmen on roanoke before the fleet resumed course for england john white had been told about the 15 crewmen before he departed so when his fleet approached the outer banks in late july of 1587 he intended to pay them a visit but this is where things get confusing you see the second colony was never intended to be established on roanoke after all the long list of complications encountered by the first colony made it clear that roanoke was far from an ideal location instead the second colony or the city of raleigh as the man in charge and so immodestly named it was to be planted somewhere along the coast of chesapeake bay this made a lot more sense the water was deeper to allow for larger ships monsters precarious as those around the outer banks there was plenty of open space the soil was more fertile and all around it seemed an improvement to roanoke island but the fleet's portuguese navigator simal fernandez had other plans fernandez had also been the navigator of the two previous expeditions and was a far more experienced sailor than white how does this all tie into roanoke though it seems much of the crew respected the authority of fernandez as such when fernandez decided to ignore the planet chesapeake bay and instead simply dumped the colonists on roanoke white did nothing to challenge his decision the rest of the crew quickly fell in line and soon enough everyone disembarked for roanoke upon reaching the abandoned colony there was no sign of the fifteen crewmen they had come to assist instead they found a pile of bones that appeared to be the remains of one of them nice they suspected the men had been attacked by eventual indians and any doubts he might have had were soon to be raised after only a few days on the island a colonist was attacked by a group of natives who pelted him with 16 arrows before caving in his skull with a wooden club wow a brutal yet unmistakable message the english were no longer welcome on roanoke even so the colonists were not without allies you see when the scouting expedition returned to england in 1584 two native americans named juan cheese and mantio were brought along with them one cheese was from roanoke while manteo was from a neighboring village on the island of croatoan when they were finally brought back to north america in 1585 they had developed vastly different opinions of the english people as soon as they made landfall one chase returned to roanoke with nothing but resentment for these foreign invaders meanwhile mantio was fascinated by everything the english had to offer he became their trusted guide and a mediator of sorts too yeah they had like technology and [ __ ] first contact so following the death of george howe white reached out to the croatoans and they confirmed what he'd initially suspected a large group of indian tribes had indeed attacked the 15 crew men stationed on roanoke this coalition was spearheaded by none other than juanchi at least that bastard crewman had been killed in the attack while the rest escaped in a small boat never to be seen again roanoke had become a much more dangerous place to live simal fernandez remained anchored near the outer banks for about a month before he decided to survival of the colony if the colony were to be truly self-sufficiently argued they would require more people and more food and a nuclear reactor would governor white to return to england with fernandez so that he could bring back supplies and restock the colony white was initially hesitant to leave as he feared he'd be accused of desertion if he returned to england alone not to mention he would have to abandon his daughter who had recently given birth her daughter of her own named virginia on this remote and precarious island but in time he was persuaded to go and as the fleet departed in late august of 1587 he could not have known he would never see any of them again oh no the kraken got him huh we live in such a [ __ ] boring world after a long and difficult voyage i wish it was something like a return [ __ ] elder god cthulhu was the one that went behind all of it no ship were to leave england until the threat of a spanish invasion had passed this was bad news for white and his best efforts notwithstanding he remained trapped in england for three long years it was not until the spring of 1590 with the help of sir walter raleigh that white finally managed to book passage in a convoy bound for america upon reaching the altitude i haven't seen that that sounds scary of smoke appeared to emanate from roanoke island two boats were quickly dispatched and the crew fired the ship's cannons to make their presence known the men could see a great fire as they approached the island but white never clarifies whether it was natural dust once ashore they made their way to the west end of the island appreciate the dusting the footprints they appear to be friends what that means with that no sign of those to whom they belonged the search party then headed north and happened upon a tree where someone had carved the letters c-r-o upon reaching the entrance of the colony they came across a second inscription it was the word croatoan engraved into a wooden post the post was but one of many that now formed a defensive barrier around the colony the colony itself was deserted and clearly had been for some time given the overgrowth of grass and weeds the houses had been taken down and stripped the valuables all they found were bars of iron a few cannons as well as fire irons valuable chests as far as anyone could tell no one had lived here for quite some time the story of the lost colony is often centered around the two engravings and without the full context it's easy to see how an author might imbue these inscriptions with intrigue and mystery in truth the carvings are some of the more well-understood elements white had no doubts about their meaning white explains in his notes that before he left in 1587 he and the colonists had come to an agreement if they decided to abandon the colony before the governor's return they were to leave behind a secret token of their destination furthermore if this abandonment was forced upon them they were to include a cross to signify distress because no such cross had been found white was confident the colonists had safely relocated to the island of croatoan i [ __ ] told you swiftly returned to the ship and convinced the captain to set course for croatoan but while the crew prepared for departure the anchor cable snapped and without the spare anchor the captain felt it was too dangerous to continue in the end white never made it to croatoan and it was the last time he ever ventured across the atlantic yeah they literally just [ __ ] left oh yeah this place sucks them out while an unsatisfying conclusion it seems relatively safe to assume the lost colony of roanoke simply relocated to the island of croatian case closed not sure that alarm cool history not quite you see while explaining the meaning of the inscriptions white revealed another interesting yet puzzling detail with a single sentence white explains that before he left in 1587 the colonists were preparing to move 50 miles into the mainland while croatoan is about 50 miles south of roanoke it's also an island distinctly not part of the mainland as such this lone sentence introduces if but a modicum of doubt to white's version of events like the prime thief and research cohen was not their intended destination after all if so where could they have gone twenty years after the roanoke colony was lost the anglo-spanish war had come to an end john white faded into obscurity and sir walter raleigh had been found guilty of treason for conspiring against the crown yeah i know it's a whole other thing anyway renewed interest in america saw the plantation of a third colony in 1607. the jamestown colony was established within the borders of a vast confederacy of native american tribes ruled by a man the english called powertan one day powhatan captured the future governor of the colony john smith and told him about a place [ __ ] awful european clothing lived then after his release in 1608 smith drew a rough map of virginia and this is one of the notations unfortunately this claim and others just like it were never properly investigated so we can never know if this was anything more than a rumor another unconfirmed report was that all but a few of the colonists had been massacred by power exclusively five as a show of the region the problem is white did not report any human remains or signs of a battle when he returned to roanoke in 1590. even so an acquaintance of john smith later wrote that powhatan had confessed to the massacre after smith was captured smith himself however makes no mention of this alleged confession and he was not exactly known to shy away from embellishment pocahontas other reports included sightings of native american children with unusually pale skin and blonde hair which led many to suspect they could be the descendants of the lost colonists what they had no way of knowing at the time however was that albinism is far more prevalent among native americans than europeans a more solid lead emerged a full century later when the english explorer john lawson made contact with a tribe known as the hatteras the hatteras occupied at the same land as the crawtowens but the island was now much larger and known as hatra's island after a storm had closed one of the inlets the hatress explained to lawson that some of their ancestors had been white and able to read several members of the tribe also had gray eyes a unique trait of the hatreds according to lawson they also spoke of a local legend about the ghost ship which they referred to as sir walter raleigh's ship lawson grew convinced the hatress was in fact the descendants of the lost colony much like john white lawson believed the colony had been relocated to croatian and over time the two peoples had become one okay so we now have two sources over a century apart arguing for the same version of events john white says they went to coratone because carvings john lawson says they went to croton because grey ice and ghosts not the most decisive evidence perhaps but it does make for a compelling argument following lawson's encounter with the hatreds in 1701 nothing of significance would be understood uniform that is until the late 1930s when a series of peculiar stones suddenly brought the mystery back to life have been inscribed with messages supposedly written by eleanor dare the daughter of john white unfortunately they all turned out to be fake oh well all except the first stone whose authenticity remains in doubt this stone features a message from dare addressed to white in which he describes the tragic death of her husband and child the composition of the stone makes it well suited for inscribing a message but a poor choice for a forger as they would have had to chemically age the fresh markings to match the weathered surface it would not have been impossible but quite difficult to do so in the 1930s why would they bother forging that [ __ ] in the first place the stone was never heard from again and the precise location of its discovery was conveniently kept secret the credibility of the writing is equally contested and there's just no consensus on what to make of it modern archaeological research has also been plagued by uncertainties excavations at roanoke have mostly confirmed the presence of a 16th century english colony but have done little in the way of determining its fate meanwhile excavations on hatteras has yielded a mix of native american and european artifacts including the hilt of a light sword but nothing that can be definitively linked to the lost colony to make matters worse much of the evidence may now be under water due to centuries of shifting sands and erosion of the islands damn time is [ __ ] crazy out of frustration for this lack of progress that researchers made a remarkable discovery in late 2011 while inspecting turns out the colonists are still alive a member of the first colony discovered immortality took note of these patches historically patches like these have been used to correct minor mistakes so no one had ever given them a second thought this time someone did and had the patches carefully examined underneath the lower patch they found exactly what you'd expect minor corrections underneath the upper patch however they found this siemens pointed star it's a real representation of a fort a comparable symbol can be seen on this map from the early 17th century the paint used to draw the symbol matches the paint used elsewhere on the map including the corrections drawn on top of the lower patch suggesting it was drawn and concealed by white himself more puzzling still a slightly smaller four-pointed star enclosed by two concentric squares has been painted with invisible ink on top of the patch this symbol can even be faintly discerned with a naked eye meaning it's been hiding in plain sight all along finally this fort is situated on the mainland but what is it all 50 miles are the colonists among us now jesus christ the location of the concealed fort was quickly named site x in reference to the expression x marks the spot nice while the fort itself has yet to be found presuming it was ever built archaeological digs have uncovered a few items of interest fragments of pottery i know his channel very well are indicative of an english presence but much like the findings on hatreds an indisputable link to the lost colony has yet to be established thank you again that being said the research is still ongoing and the smoking gun whatever it may be will probably have been found by the time you're watching this presuming this is the intended location for the city of rome why was it concealed with a patch tempting as it may be to envision some elaborate conspiracy there is a very simple explanation remember how in 1608 john smith sent this rough map of virginia i forget 1608 well this is not the original map but an illicit copy a copy made in secret by the spanish ambassador and covertly passed along to the king of spain so england had good reason to worry about sensitive information such as the location of a fort being intercepted by enemy spies another example is how the colony on roanoke was concealed through a mission we still don't know the precise location or layout of the colony because it was never indicated on any of the surviving maps well it continues what do you mean i was looking right at it among historians and archaeologists this secrecy did serve a purpose as it prevented spain from ever finding the colony in fact spain continued to search for the colony long after it was lost so it's unlikely they had anything to give you potato and prime eventually on the other hand if the fort was never built the patch may be precisely what it was always assumed to be nothing more than a correction then again the near invisible symbol drawn on top of the patch strongly imply concealment as opposed to a simple revision after going through all the available evidence er this is what i'm thinking so john white left roanoke in 1587 right when he failed to return the colony was split into two groups one decapped for sight x while the other went to live with the friendly croatoans to await the governor's return which don't have suffered a severe drought just off the white left so the relocation may not only have been motivated by diminishing supplies and hostilities water and crop production simulators for decades the colonists may have started families with and thus become inseparable from the indigenous people amongst whom they lived not only would this explain the disappearance but also the croatoan inscription the 50 miles into the main as well as the grey eyes of the hatteras while i'm still leaning towards it being fake i do find it interesting how the dare stone was supposedly discovered just a few miles north of site x after all if you're a hoaxer and you want to convince 1930s america that this stone is genuine why claim you found it so far away from roanoke one should also keep in mind that much of the evidence relies solely on the words and paintings of one man parts of white's account could easily be a misinterpretation or exaggeration so depending on what evidence you regard as credible other solutions are equally plausible for instance some believe the colony went ahead with the original plan and relocated somewhere along the coast of chesapeake bay others believe they were all lost at sea after a failed attempt to return to england but these solutions are about as helpful as saying the colony vanished into thin air without a more localized place of interest to search for corroborating evidence there is virtually no hope of resolution with all that being said many questions remain what happened to the three forsaken colonists and the thirteen crewmen why did zimao fernandez disobey orders and dump the colonists on roanoke why was one of the two engravings left incomplete why was everyone named john as for the most important question of them all well if there is an answer to that question chances are it lies buried somewhere at site x just waiting to be found damn i think his theory makes the most sense they split into groups and they both went to two different places i think that is the most like likely but i like to imagine there's a more paranormal element at play i think what also could have happened is perhaps a dimensional rift had occurred at some point maybe due to an intense weather anomaly and through that rift entered one of the lovecraftian villains we just recently learned about and that is what happened thanks to prime weathers and i can't be proven wrong yet but i eventually will i think 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