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Please be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case of <i> Webb v. Cole.</i> Thank you, Jerome. Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. Mr. Webb, you and your girlfriend say there's no chance, whatsoever, that you fathered the defendant's 6-month-old daughter, Majestic. You say your evidence will shock this court room. Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. All right. Ms. Cole, you and your mother say you're 100% certain that Mr. Webb is your child's biological father and say the only reason he's denying your baby is to save his relationship with the woman he's been with for the past three years, is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: All right. So, Mr. Webb, how can you be so certain you are not this child's biological father? I never had sex with her, Your Honor. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) NATHANIEL: (LAUGHS) And that... Well, that would rule you out. You never had sex with her? No. Yeah, he did. She's a liar. She's crazy. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Cole, we've heard a lot of defenses in this court room, rarely have we ever heard that you've never had sex with her. She's absolutely crazy. So, you think she's just making this up? Yeah. TASHA: No, I'm not. Yes. If you've never had sex with... Why are you here? I know for a fact that dates line up. And I know he stayed with me for two months. And he slept in my bed with me for one night <i> and we had sex, April 11th.</i> JUDGE LAKE: That's when you believe you conceived your daughter? Yeah. JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Webb, this is strange. <i> What was the nature of your relationship?</i> We never had sex or anything. We were just friends. We would chill out. That was it. You were never intimate with her in any way? I never stayed in her bedroom. I stayed out on the couch. TASHA: That's a lie. And on top of that, I was only there for a week and... A week... A week and a half. That's not true. That's a lie. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Cole... All right, take me back to the night you believe you conceived. I can't exactly remember, but I know that it was the night that we was partying. Oh, yeah, right. Well... He ain't like that. NATHANIEL: Your Honor, the worst that we've ever done is take a picture and she was already in the bathroom. She had called me in there when I walked in the bathroom, she said... <i> She took a picture before I can even say anything.</i> <i> I didn't even wanna take that picture.</i> <i> That's how crazy she is.</i> She posted... Shut up. TASHA: There's more than one. She posted it on Facebook. There's more than one. And when I told her to take it down, she refused to because she crazy. Come on. You know dang good and well that me and my husband took care of you the whole time you were there. I didn't see you... I didn't see you for one time the whole time I was there. (BOTH ARGUING LOUDLY) JUDGE LAKE: All right, let's get some order! You need help just as much as... I'm sorry, Your Honor, but I'm not getting... (SPLUTTERS) So, Ms. Cole, you said you and your husband were taking care of Mr. Webb? Yes, and my grandkids and anybody else that need it. NATHANIEL: You're a liar. You are a liar! NATHANIEL: Everything that you're saying... You're a liar! She was on the phone with me five, six times a day. (SCREAMS) You're a liar! Why was Mr. Webb living with you? He's a punk bum. We supplied everything for them. Their food, everything. Everything. And... JUDGE LAKE: Why were you living there? I wasn't living there. We were hanging out for a week, a week and a half. Right. NATHANIEL: And on top of that, April 18th, I had moved back to Detroit. How was I there for two or three months? But why were you staying there with them for a week if you had a girlfriend? She had knew about it. We were friends. She trust me. She knows I'm not... I'm not like that. I don't do that type of stuff. I've known him for seven years and he is not like that at all. And you called me... Yeah. And you called me with his friend telling me that he was there for three weeks and you guys were having sex and blah, blah, blah... At first, I did believe that. But then, I heard his story... You believed... ...and none of... Shut up! I am talking. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIM) Hold on. Let's be respectful. AUBRIANA: So, anyway, she was telling me that they were sleeping together and stuff. He wasn't even there for three weeks. He was there for a week, maybe a week and a half! Just over there? Yes, he was saying... I knew they were hanging out. I don't understand this, do you, Jerome? JEROME: No. I never knew they were talking. We didn't even know that... I never get that. We talked five or six times a day. How did you not know? Well, she's the one that called me with his friend. NATHANIEL: She had heard her voice in the background numerous times. How does that makes sense? So, you're over there hanging out, partying, because you're friends with Ms. Cole? NATHANIEL: Right. He had multiple friends there when they had the party. And what you're saying is you never ended up being intimate with her, like she's saying. NATHANIEL: No. No. All right, where did you sleep? On the couch in the living room. Are you... Is there something wrong here? Mr. Webb, how did you find out she was pregnant? Can I... Can I show you? JUDGE LAKE: Do you have a diagram? Yes. I'd like to see it. Please step forward. NATHANIEL: This is how this went, the first message. She messaged me saying, "Hey. I got an ultrasound." I said, "Okay. Can we leave it at that, Tasha? "It's not my baby. I'm not trying to..." (NATHANIEL CONTINUES READING) At this point, I'm thinking, I feel like she's trying to say that I'm the baby daddy, but not... But just hinting, not actually saying it. All right. NATHANIEL: Okay. So, here's the second one. This is what came next. <i> I told her... I said, "I'm not trying to be mean.</i> <i> "I just want this to end." 'Cause I'm not a mean person.</i> I'm not a hateful person. But when it comes to her and what she's put me through with the lies last year, I can't take it no more. She had sent me a message back saying... (READING ON-SCREEN TEXTS) After this, this is where I'm like, she's literally crazy. 'Cause now I understand what she's saying. The first text, I'm thinking, "Okay, she's hinting towards it." Now she's full blown out, trying to say that we did stuff. So, that's where I'm like, "There's something wrong with her." Okay. This is the last one. This is how this ended. She had sent me an ultrasound saying, "That's a 3D photo. "Tell me she don't look like you." (AUDIENCE LAUGH) Are you that crazy? How crazy are you that I look... Do I look like ultrasound? <i> Who... I had never...</i> TASHA: <i> That's</i> <i> a pretty picture.</i> NATHANIEL: <i> I got on Google...</i> TASHA: <i> She looks a lot like him.</i> ...'cause I don't know much about baby stuff. So, I'm thinking, "Is that a... Is that a thing now?" <i> So, I said, "Tasha, you're crazy."</i> (NATHANIEL CONTINUES READING) And that was that. I just didn't wanna deal with her anymore. I still don't. Oh, my goodness. Did he ever acknowledge that he was the father? He admitted to my cousin. NATHANIEL: Oh, you are lying. AUBRIANA: No, he did not. He admitted it to my cousin that he was the dad. What do you think, Mr. Webb, is Ms. Cole's motive, if you say you've never slept with her? Why manufacture all of this? I think she's obsessed with me. She's obsessed with me or something. No. I don't know what it is. I've been trying to figure out... There's one reason why I'm here... Her dad is... To know for sure he's the dad, because I did have another partner. It was a month. A month prior. Now we find out. No, I told you there was another possibility and I told the other possibility there was another... Oh, you also told them that you're 100% sure that I was the father, you and your mom said that. JUDGE LAKE: Wait a minute, Ms. Cole... Look. She looks just like him. AUBRIANA: That baby is white. He is dark. I'm sorry, but I'm Puerto Rican. I... JUDGE LAKE: Okay. That's all I got to say. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Cole. Ms. Cole? TASHA: What? You're saying that you were honest... And don't say "What?" I'm sorry. Yes, Your Honor. (LAUGHS) (SIGHS) Let me take a breath. (LAUGHTER) Ms. Cole, so you admit it. There's another possibility. And you say you've been upfront since the beginning. It's either Mr. Webb or this other gentleman. Yeah. As soon as I took the pregnancy test, I immediately texted him and called the other guy and I told both of them. That's a lie. I was for certain that the other guy was the dad... (NATHANIEL LAUGHS) ...until my due date got changed a month ahead, which would make him the dad. It went from February 22nd to January 28th. You submitted a calendar to the court, am I correct? Oh, you have another copy. Jerome, let me see that, please. So this calendar outlines what exactly? In red is the date you were intimate <i> with Mr. Webb, on the 11th of April?</i> TASHA: <i> Yeah And then,</i> <i> my conception was...</i> JUDGE LAKE: <i> The window</i> <i> of conception is in blue.</i> TASHA: <i> Yeah.</i> JUDGE LAKE:<i> So, that's the week prior to the 11th?</i> TASHA: <i> Yeah.</i> JUDGE LAKE: And then, Majestic was born on the 28th of January, correct? Yes. JUDGE LAKE: When were you intimate with the other guy? NATHANIEL: She don't even know. May, uh, 15th, 16th. NATHANIEL: How do you get those two mixed up? That's over a month. How are you gonna say that you think it's him and then over a month? Because the due date. The due date. NATHANIEL: No. No. The doctor gave a due date. There's something wrong with you. These are things that she has literally made herself believe. She made herself believe these lies that she's telling. But Mr. Webb says he never slept with you. TASHA: And he did. But he did. For sure, yeah. It was a lousy, like, 20 minutes. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Sorry. TASHA: I'm so sorry, Your Honor. Okay. There was two witnesses there that said that there... That they never had sex at the party. NATHANIEL: The night that she said that we had sex or whatever, two of our friends were there. One of them were her family members and even he said that we didn't do nothing. They were up... They were partying with us the whole night, and I was... So, if... If you're sleeping at the house and you all are "partying", I won't ask what that means, but if it goes on for a week and a half, I really don't think it's anything positive. Um... So, if it goes on that long, are you sure that one night of "partying" didn't lead you to sleep with her, and you may not even recall? You know, I've actually... JUDGE LAKE: Or want to admit in front of your girlfriend? Yeah. NATHANIEL: You know, I've thought of the possibility. Me and her have had this conversation over and over. She knew I was over there partying. I didn't hide nothing from her. We talked that night on the phone... You're hiding this from her. ...over for four or five times. Well, you could talk on the phone with her four or five times a day, and still end... End up in the bed with Ms. Cole. I mean, that's doable. NATHANIEL: Well, every time I party, I've never been the type to wake up and not remember what I... What I've done the night before. I know myself. That's just how it is. Unless there's something I don't know, like her drugging me or something. That's all I know. JUDGE LAKE: Without... Ms. Cole, without being too graphic, are there any other details, specifics that you can share that would prove your case? I can tell you how big his winker is. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIM) It's pretty small. AUBRIANA: No, it's not. NATHANIEL: Mmm-hmm! I could tell you plenty of times. It's about that big. I've known him for seven years. It's about that big. Definitely not! Definitely not, and don't you dare tell a thing about his penis. (AUDIENCE CHEERING) NATHANIEL: It's probably because she's never seen it in her life, clearly. All we're here to do is to find out if he is the father. I was without my father for 39 years. I want to know that my grandchild has a father. It's pretty bad... Well, it ain't me. TRULIE: Not having a dad. I know how it is. My mom hasn't had her dad... That's the only reason we're here. NATHANIEL: Your Honor, can I show you something? JUDGE LAKE: What is that you have, sir? This is... You know, some text messages that she sent. I'm sorry. I'm still getting over the previous testimony. Jerome, pass me this evidence. (LAUGHTER) These are text messages of her telling me that she... It's either me or the other guy. She's not even for sure. JUDGE LAKE: So this is a... These are text messages? It's just... It's just until now that she decided that it's for sure 100% me. No. NATHANIEL: But does that text to you... Does it look like to you that she's for sure? 'Cause my due date changed. JUDGE LAKE: So, this reads, "Nothing about this is hard." (JUDGE LAKE CONTINUES READING) <i> This is from you.</i> (CONTINUES READING) <i> You write to her again.</i> And then, she writes to you, "It's you or a white dude." (CONTINUES READING) I guarantee she don't even know the name to the dude. TASHA: Yeah, actually, I do. So, you admit here, actually, this further lends credibility to your early testimony, Ms. Cole, where you said... AUBRIANA: No. TASHA: Yeah. ...it's either you or another gentleman. Yes. Now, on the monitor, if there's a split screen... TASHA: Look at the nose. <i> ...of Mr. Webb and Majestic.</i> NATHANIEL: (CHUCKLES) <i> She needs glasses too though.</i> AUBRIANA: <i> Definitely.</i> JUDGE LAKE: <i> You believe there's a resemblance?</i> TRULIE: <i> Definitely.</i> TASHA: <i> Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.</i> JUDGE LAKE: You obviously don't see it? Oh, my... (SNICKERS) My God, no. TASHA: She was dark up until she was three months old. NATHANIEL: <i> She was dark the</i> <i> first two hours she was born.</i> TASHA: <i> She lightened up.</i> NATHANIEL: I can't even... And this picture is to show what exactly? NATHANIEL: That that baby don't look nothing like me. JUDGE LAKE: <i> So, you're sayin there's absolutely</i> <i> no resemblance?</i> NATHANIEL: <i> Absolutely nothing.</i> AUBRIANA: <i> That baby is just straight white.</i> I ain't white. I'm brown. Yeah, he's definitely brown. You're not that brown. AUBRIANA: Yes, he is. He's Puerto Rican and Indian. Yeah, he's brown! Do you see my skin color? Are you blind? And obviously, you've seen his body, so you know he is brown. Somebody get this girl some glasses, dude. We know that children come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Moving on. Ms. Cole, has she ever said, "Mom, really, the other guy is the father." Or is she really hoping Mr. Webb is the father? No, she's not hoping that Mr. Webb is the father. No. What has she said about the other guy? She doesn't want him to be the dad either. (CHUCKLES) So, I mean, it's... To be honest... Neither one of them are any good. Neither one of them are, you know, gonna amount to anything. Nothing... JUDGE LAKE: All right. Let's move on. Let's deal with the paternity. You all are getting on my last nerve. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) (SIGHS) Okay. Sorry, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Majestic is six months old. TASHA: Yeah. JUDGE LAKE: She obviously has no relationship with either man. No. No. JUDGE LAKE: Have you ever seen her, Mr. Webb? No. JUDGE LAKE: Held her? No. JUDGE LAKE: And the other gentleman has not either? He's incarcerated. Okay. Mr. Webb, if you are this child's biological father, are you willing to be a father? That's not something I've thought about considering I didn't have sex with her. So, I mean, it's just never something I really thought about, honestly. It's something that I have to sit down and think about by myself. TASHA: You did too sleep with me and you know that. (SIGHS) Yeah, I'm done arguing. TASHA: The truth will come out in a few minutes, so... AUBRIANA: Good. We're waiting. And I'm gonna laugh at you. (CHUCKLES) JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Cole... Good for you. Like that's gonna do something. Yes. I do have the results. TASHA: Sorry. Jerome? Here you go, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: These results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows. In the case of <i> Webb v. Cole,</i> when it comes to 6-month-old Majestic Cole, it has been determined by this court... JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Webb, you... Are not her father. AUBRIANA: Whoo! Oh! You're a freak! Yeah. You're crazy. You need to go to a mental hospital! JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Webb... Get her there. Get her there. Mr. Webb, Ms. Reams, stop. But I want a lie detector... Listen, we don't clown in this court room. I know you probably feel relieved, vindicated, but at the same time, there's a beautiful young baby <i> whose life and paternity is still at issue.</i> Ms. Cole, you stood firm in your testimony that you were intimate with Mr. Webb. Yes. And this other guy? TASHA: Yes, Your Honor. Have you mentioned this pregnancy to the other guy? I told both of them after the same day I took the pregnancy test. And have you spoken to the other guy since? TASHA: No. And I'm gonna be writing him a letter now. JUDGE LAKE: The other guy? TASHA: Yeah. But he's a lot better. He's a... He's a lot better. (SNICKERS) (SCATTERED LAUGHTER) He's not... He's not better, okay? In the meantime, we have counseling and resources available to you. Thank God. JUDGE LAKE: To help you because I'm a little concerned. We all are. (CONTINUES SNICKERING) JUDGE LAKE: (STAMMERS) Stop laughing. Stop laughing. NATHANIEL: I apologize, Your Honor. Stop laughing. It really isn't funny. Whatever the partying and all this stuff is, you took part in it and it landed you right here. This is not funny. TASHA: (VOICE BREAKING) I really thought he was the dad. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Cole, what are you feeling in this moment? (VOICE BREAKING) I just... I really thought was the dad. I really thought he was the dad. That's why. But, I mean, I just feel really stupid. (SNIFFLING) AUDIENCE: Aw. (CRIES) Listen, we will be here for you. The most important thing is to keep Majestic first. Oh, yeah. Always. JUDGE LAKE: All right? And I don't want you to be in position where you are just accusing this man and that man. Really think about it first. And when you reach out to that person, if they'd like a DNA test to be sure, get it so Majestic can have that clarity, too. Do you understand? Yes. JUDGE LAKE: All right. Well, I wish you the very best of luck. Take advantage of the counseling. Court is adjourned. (GAVEL BANGS) (APPLAUSE)
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Length: 16min 52sec (1012 seconds)
Published: Mon Dec 03 2018
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