Lossless Scaling on Legion Go & Steam Deck ( Windows ) - Frame Generation in ANY Game

what's up guys welcome back to the channel so something a little different here we're going to take a look at an app in Steam called lossless scaling and it's pretty cool it's a lot like frame generation which most of us are familiar with amd's fluid motion frames which is similar to um DSS's future frame generation where it doubles to triples your frame rate it's a lot of false frames being put in there but it can really help out some of the game playay and some of your frame rates depending on the type of game you're playing and it's been a little hit or miss here on the handhelds But ultimately it's been pretty good and I wanted to cover it now this is $6.99 in Steam so it is fairly cheap super easy to use and I don't normally cover a lot of paid apps like this but I found this one to be really really useful here on the handhelds including the steam Deck with Windows now once you get this and you download it you just launch it leave scaling mode on auto and aspect ratio here leave that alone scaling type to off I'm going to be using in-game FSR and TAA where I need it and then what we're concentrate on for this video is frame generation here the lsfg here and we don't really have to change anything there once that ticks on but I do go down here and do draw FPS because my MSI afterburner software only picks up the base FPS not the frame generated FPS so we'll see both when we get into things here which actually kind of Handy now in the settings we have control s to switch between your scaling on and off which is basically turning frame gen on and off in the game and then some other things that you can go through there as well now what else is pretty helpful in here besides the ease of use is they do have a little manual here that you can click on and bring up the stuff about using this um in Window mode or full screen border lless about the scaling and that type of stuff so a lot you can look at to learn more about using the app but it's super easy here so we'll leave that open and we're going to go ahead and launch into a game to get started and we'll take a look at this working both on the legion go and the steam Deck with Windows just to get an idea here we'll start off with power world here so we'll launch that and on the legion go just kind of sitting still here we'll be anywhere in the 30s and 40s with the settings that I have right now I'm going to go ahead and swipe up and bring up the lossless scaling app and hit scale it'll have a 5-second countdown I'll tap back on the game we'll see it change over and start scaling the game and now we are going to lose some base FPS because we are running that software in the background now and it's taking up some performance but it does double the frame rate or so depending here in the game and it feels pretty decent Now power world I don't necessarily need this software it runs pretty good on its own now especially if I tweak things and feels pretty good and there is some introduced um additional input latency with the lossless scaling but it does do its job of giving me more frames and I could immediately tell on the go screen at 144 HZ I have it set at that I was getting more frame rate it didn't necessarily feel a whole lot smoother in this particular game but I could see the frame rate increase I could definitely tell on my screen and uh it was pretty cool to see that working here in power world but while we're on power world I want to jump over to the steam deck because I have my LCD with Windows here and I thought this could be really helpful because the go has driver support coming for frame gen soon or amd's fluid motion as does the Ally but the MSI claw who knows what Intel will have there and for the steam Deck with Windows we really don't have very many options besides mods and some of those can be a little difficult this makes it really easy to go in do the same thing launch this lless scaler uh have it running pick the game we're going to run in this case we'll jump back into power world real quick we'll hit play here and get in and we'll do the same thing so now that we're into power world here for the steam deck moving around here actually this runs decently on Windows by the way on the deck but in general it's just going to be a tough game uh to run on here but not too bad but anyway sitting here at 43 45 we'll go ahead swipe up bring up my scaler hit scale tap Al on the game and then it'll go ahead and take over here in a second and there we go again we're going to lose some of that base performance by running that as you can see it's upping our FPS pretty good here and actually felt pretty decent here on the deck the problem here is over on the legion go I have 144 Herz to deal with and here I have 60 HZ so running the game with these extra frames fres does feel and look a little bit janky even though it technically is a bit smoother um but on 60 HZ it's not just as helpful here if I was docked going out to my higher frame monitor it would be more helpful now also on the steam deck I brought up bishers ghost of new Eden which is one of my favorite new single player games here in 2024 and this newer title much like hell divers actually functioned better here with lossless scaling than some of the other titles I was messing with this one felt pretty good so it kicks in here again we lose a little bit of that base performance we get the increase in fps and my frame times stayed pretty good in this game and I could feel that it was much smoother now you're going to see some ghosty smear stuff here that's because of the 60 HZ screen again and all the extra frames and some of that I don't have that when I dock it and go to my higher FPS monitor uh with this exact same game on my deck here with windows so it's very interesting and seems to work really well on this particular game now I would want to do this on the OLED at 90 HZ would be much better but I'm waiting for official audio drivers there now jumping back back over to the legion go we have hell divers finally it took me forever to get in here so that I could test this game but the thing is I got to jump in here before and do this and this is one of the best experiences I've had with the loss of scaling software and this particular game it just seems to work really well now again lose a little base performance but we gain the FPS and I'm on that 144 htz screen and something about this game and this software seemed to feel the best bishers was really good on the deck and Hell divers 2 here on the legion go it feels really smooth I don't know how it's going to come off looking in the video exactly here at 60 FPS 60 HZ and on YouTube and all of that but here in person on the 144 HZ screen with the additional frames even though it's a lot of fake frames shoved in there it actually looks and feels really smooth this was one of the better experiences where I was like really happy I had grabbed the software and got into it because while the game feels fine without it I just felt like the game feel felt a lot better with lossless here and it didn't introduce any additional frame time stuttering or anything like that and it just seemed to be one of the better ones so this and bishers was two of my best experiences uh so far with it now emulation and other apps you can also use this in which is going to be really helpful as well so just jumping in here and giving an example I've got Zelda te of the kingal pulled up here and we can turn on our scaling click back on the game same thing you've seen here it'll count down and then it'll scale this and we get the increased FPS now again it's hard to show this in the video recording at 60 FPS and all that but here in person on the 144hz screen this actually looked pretty good it looked smoother than without the scaling felt pretty good and it didn't quite have the input latency that I felt in power world I felt like power world introduced a little bit more input latency but that's part of the thing too is depending on how high your base FPS is is really going to depend on how well the software works right same thing with any of the frame generation software out there from AMD uh d uh dlss stuff from Nvidia mods and all that the higher your base FPS the better these are are going to work so like 60 FPS is the recommended but they do work for under thank goodness for these handhelds but the experience can certainly vary but again hell diver is for me one of the better experiences here when it comes to using Lawless scaling but this software is really exciting it's working really well the fact you can use it for more than just these games the emulation maybe there's some other apps out there I'm not thinking of it might work well in or or something like that but it's a pretty neat feature again I don't always cover paid apps but I thought $699 was pretty good and this is actually helping me a lot on the different handhelds I think it' be important for a lot of people that are still running Windows on Steam deck as well all right guys thanks a lot for coming to check out the video as always I really appreciate it and I'll see you guys in the next [Music] one

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Length: 7min 51sec (471 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 20 2024