Live Motion Design with Andrew Embury 1/3

[Music] all right then we are live hello Paul here with Andrew and breathe good to have you here man thanks you excited man a little bit it's kind of its kind of a lot to take you know I'm in the studio it's real that's amazing after-effects guru master of all motion his initials are actually AE advisory so it was your career was it was meant to be I know like actually in the stars yes so cool so good to have you here man where are you where to usually hail from when you live right now I'm living in Kingston Ontario Canada bustling place yeah it's a tall bustling metropolis I know right it's pretty crazy instant in Ontario Canada where you guys from always liked it always curious so let us know that'd be fantastic oh man this is so hey there's Pedro Pedro is here yeah Canadian no he's from South America I work with him quite a bit he's awesome good to have you guys here just do a shout out when we're done we're gonna do some after-effects check out some some projects and you probably you might have even seen I would argue to say that people probably see in your work and have not known it was yours probably you know the accurate it's kind of looking looking at your HR down there that's another guy work with Ricardo's bang on Patrick - awesome hottie some coworkers oh it's awesome because like I'm all about the community and at the end of the day like it's really super about the community when it really comes down there's my kite I taught him at mograph mentor that's good times and while that's happening we're reading the chat let us know where you're from Washington Sweden New York City in the house I just want do you mind if I just we play this behind us I mean us just on my screen was great yeah and again no audio but this will just kind of play that's your demo reel from 2015 every stuff stuff is happening work it work it you know stuff moving things happening things flying around I'm stopping millions sold sold text all the texts yes there's actually so many people that I know and in Jersey Pennsylvania as far as a Brazil Paris so good looks like Brazil's the waves away Paris looks like that might be the farthest away yeah that's kinda Martinez Kyle is retracted nice thanks guys so yeah it's getting a little little bit late in Europe so maybe not a ton of people there but lots of North America so this is good oh sweet and getting some questions already yeah so this is good slovenia's in the house yeah that's the farthest away so far Belgium of course as well so welcomes a so cools concepts so he says they you know I was I was just on you can see Andrews site a EMB you are why.com should go there check out all the examples that you want you've been doing this for how long how long you been working last effects after-effects per say about 16 years animation in total I've been doing like animation in general for 16 years and After Effects in 16 years yeah okay well thank your you've almost been working in After Effects longer than After Effects has existed oh no nothing I know like that would be 90 I would that's a good quiz question depends like who you want to call it if you want to call it actually After Effects or do you want to call it the other name that is known by back in the eighties what anybody actually was that name well I do I know that I know the company oh yeah I know that cuz I was talking about but I didn't yeah that's what I know he wins right there he wins boom Oh teamwork guy behind the scenes yes fantastic so do you guys remember what was Adobe After Effects before was Adobe After Effects let us know in the chat and virtual high five so maybe cuz now probably not let's be on this so let's dive into let's kind of take a look I know you have some projects tell us what you I don't know if you have anything on your screen that you can show yeah so I guess it's your time my friends so yeah I guess it's kind of weird so like as much as I want to talk to the community and answer questions I guess I got walked with this one project which is like this adobe marketing cloud thing that I worked on you know it's a lot of fun so we can walk through this one I guess step for step and have a talk about this and also just more than anything I won't answer questions like I guess like it's for me it's all about the community and at the end of the day yeah Tom you totally got it yeah Tom with the name like rendered Tom he better gotten it possibly I love that I've worked like like you know Tom helps develop flow he also developed labels like which is this like little script here for me scripts Tom is I can't say things like that but yes tom is awesome I like Tom wait what is that this is called labels for me scripts so for example like you know if I have a bunch of layers and I just want to be able to real able it instead of like going through and trying to find what is this lay it label it allows you to color code them yeah totally so you can like take it the best thing render Tom thank you Oh totally you can load templates from East grips which is amazing and just use colors these are just using the default because well I just got slapped up and kinda have to get going yeah no this is good and I mean I kind of you kind of glazed over it but just even watching this animation I don't know if you can kind of scrub through it again yeah sure I so like it it starts out really really chill it's like oh just a couple and then she busts and then the things happen and it all comes together and this is by the way only like one example like you were showing me other examples that just kind of blew my mind yeah just good yeah yeah hey it's Simon - wow this is like 16 years of work like I mean how far do you want me to go back but the guys has done stuff so that's actually good yeah I originally started like first first first started like it was like back in 2000 well 2004 was like my first animation studio job and I was there for five and a half years and yeah like for a long time I was just doing kids animation things through flash back in the day when like you know people are always on your back not to work in flash for animation but the kind of the community made it happen yeah that is really cool hey you guys are bringing up some good questions actually Andrew and Steady's here so we could talk about you you know laptop we could talk it we can get into specifics as far as specs and then somebody and then we could rattle off some of our favorite plugins like you just mentioned yeah totally like we'll do this set up like kind of overview cuz you're on what type of laptop yeah I just bought an Asus Zephyrus like the brand-new laptop max-q gaming laptop because yeah it's really it's kind of the things like you know that you can get a Quadra waiting in key force and you know leverage the cost difference and like honestly speaking gaming laptops are just where it's at okay there's just so much powerful and like I like for the first one four or five years of my freelancing like I moved to India I was living in Waterloo and had one laptop and it was a gaming laptop that took me pretty much all around the globe how does 20 pound laptop I used to have to run up and down when I was living in England and it sucked but amazing best workout you could ever have yeah so how do you scrub through so and this is a good so we have all people all walks of life is that green line obviously is your cached frames yeah totally so things soon as that solid green it should go pretty smooth yeah sure it's like there we go so yeah we gonna let this play for a sec just just take it all in and then you mentioned let's talk about plugins and again we're just kind of talking to setup at the top yeah does that one again sorry so this one's labels from memory tom and like hey Ron's here - that's me I work with Ron a lot um so yeah so the biggest thing is like I I'm a really big proponent about using scripts and plugins for After Effects just because you know leverage the time that you have at the end of the day like it's really important to understand that your time is valuable and you have to realize that if you're gonna spend two minutes clicking the same button over and over again and you can save that by say two seconds that's exponential growth that you just saved yourself that would be Oh I've done the math if you saved well even a one second every minute that totals like eight days by the end of the year for an average work week yeah and then at the end of the year you see you get an entire week back just by doing one shortcut Oh totally that's the most important thing like and you have to realize that that is so valuable and then like if that goes in every kind of walk of life if it's design animation editing you name it like it's so important to understand that your time is valuable and like at the end of the day you have to remember that so important your time is important as a freelancer huge deal yeah totally and these these plugins help with that Oh master identifying layers in this case oh well since we just had like matte not too long ago mograph like mo motion - like motion - is like by far one of my favorite tools just because like I love using the null I love using like you know reposition of my anchor tool like that's just awesome I got the end of the day it's just really simple really efficient you know it's not all my scripts that I have right now because it is brand-new laptop but let's it is what it is hey there's Paul so Paul Conigliaro is by far like my biggest homeboy I love Paul and there's John John - awesome Keane's are good-looking hahaha FX FX console couldn't agree more like honestly it's a fax console right here boom it's amazing I love it like it's by far just save so much time what does it do so FX console is essentially so essentially like instead of going up here and like say hey I want to go into the effects window what if I could find it even I bet I really do have it open somewhere yeah there it is so in the facts and presets like you'd typically have to go through and type in your effect so let's say gosh and hey there's guys on couch in I guess how it's actually pronounced and so like you can go in here and find it and like click here then double click but hey there it is I can add it which you know that's that's a few clicks right off so the by like three different parts of this exactly so right off the bat I can just literally control space bar or command space bar and boom you're in business just a huge time saying yeah so I can just like the layer I want at an impressed community space bar and then I can have a search for any kind of like whatever plugin I want oh so like optics compensation for example like so much extra stuff so many valuable and that's the things like as Matt like was saying like he pretty much lives on the keyboard and I'm the same way like ninety percent of my animations I don't touch a key I don't touch the mouse and I'm just solely based off the keyboard and that's just because it just works so well yeah yeah that is good so we'll try to call those out what what shortcut keys your oh absolutely that's a huge week you guys aren't able to see that but Photoshop actually has that now and on a few commands space I said command it's command F it and Photoshop kind of has some of that that's pretty killer that same thing built-in for Photoshop it has it now epic yeah FX console is free so you know and free totally its mass belief and that's nothing is like you can like honestly I probably I spent a ton of money on scripts but it's at the end of day like you have to it's an investment you know if you want to take this as a professional career it's no different like you know when you're a carpenter for example you have to remember that like you're you're as sharp as your sharpest tool in your shed like you're whittling away to be able to make this masterpiece chair you don't want to use a dull tool so you know you are part of that tool you are the craftsman but you've got to remember that you always a constantly have to invest back into your toolset because that's a big part of this you have to understand that like your time is valuable and if you're using a sharper tool you can cut through faster and be more efficient every time so yeah so you've just gotten used to using shortcuts just over time you've added them to your repertoire oh well shortcuts and scripts and plugins and like all these things like just always Oh totally massive tax write-off let's talk about the business side of things hell's yes like Teddy knows what I'm talking about but that's the thing is like it's just got to remember that time time is it's just a finite value that we can't really ever get back so the better user time the better off you are gonna be as a professional yeah which is why we're glad you guys are spending your time with us I think this is this is part of like sort of sharpening that Oh big time it's like you know that's where like at the end of the day people have to remember that you can be strong individually but when it comes down to it it's about the community that you surround yourself with you know like the whole like silly meme thing about success and surrounding yourself with like the bet like you know like surrender self with lions it's it's very true like you know surround yourself with the best work with people that that pursue knowledge that pursue passion those people are always going to get you further and further along and that's the thing is like it's so important to understand that your tribe is everything like just remember the people that got you to where you are and remember the people that are gonna bring you to that next level and yeah and like yeah so how did that's a good question Christopher asks yeah so I guess the biggest thing is understanding just like how long I guess it really comes down to is understanding like who the client is what the purpose of the project is and what are you doing to be able to like to have impact so for for example this piece was well it took about we did about two weeks all in total but about two weeks about I'd say a week and maybe eight days of this was the design and like getting the storyboarded ideas and ideation talked over and understood with the team of what we are trying to create and then from that to be able to execute for example this animation this animation only took me about half a day and it's just because we had the process outlined we had it and I did that complete idea and what its gonna be for me like that's the the most important thing that people have to realize that it's not just pressing buttons if that makes any sense hey Evans here yes or yeah looking up because like when I was looking is like how do I not look like an idiot so it's just like looking up and I said everybody I could talk to you or everybody would go to have as far as like an example this is fun well that's a things like honestly like obviously you know again community because I'm always always giving back cuz I could you know that time of the day like for me it's all about I guess my legacy that I want to leave behind is people is always empowering the people because you know you never know it's super important to always work with good people but also put good back into the world because you know it's again you you you want to be the change you see in the world and that's and that's really really really important that is good man I like it I like it and somebody to ask this earlier sort of like and you kind of mention this do you start out by storyboarding just on a piece of paper sort of thing and we'll see that some things like I totally compartmentalize it sounds silly but like so for example like if I know I'm going to be doing let's say this this piece in particular you know like the first thing like I want to be able to kind of figure out is understanding alright let's get it illegal it's good to solid design in place because like you could always animate pretty much anything you can come up with any cool idea if it makes things transition and animate and create but what's really gonna speak volumes is that you're gonna have everybody involved you're always gonna have the team involved in the process part because you know as part of the process and as part of understanding what you have to create you have to have everybody along on the board and that's I think it's so important I don't want to drive everybody crazy with like just looking at the same one I mean I mean really man let's switch to my screen cuz this will just kind of play behind us as well and this is cool just also on your it might take a second to yeah told the cue and I understanding you like again the storyboarding process you kind of works on this as part of like a team that's right yeah the team at we are oh yeah those guys are awesome like again like when some of my favorite teams to work with like Jackie Jackie's incredible hand L was there he was just just a power I was Tyler Morgan was used to be working there we worked on this piece together it was just such a great collaborative team effort like you know we had essentially seven days to be able to crank this out and like you know is just working with good people and understand their each professionals of what they do and that's the thing is like working with people that are really good at what they do you're gonna get that time back it like it's worthwhile and that's the things like end of the day like that's why I was saying about compartmentalizing to understanding the virtue of the value of working with a professional because the professional knows what they're doing mm-hmm and then that way again like a script it's gonna save you time yeah I know just kind of looking at this by the way I'm it just brings up other questions for me like first of all like teams I kind of resent like they're gonna make you better totally I'm curious how you made like some of this is just so impressive like the perspective on this detection that's on this like so many questions like come to mind for me personally the lighting is compelling even though it's at this flat look it all has this light source and depth to it so yeah and that's totally the biggest thing is I got the end of the day like it's understanding each piece of it um obviously like you know the know it like the texture I guess through the noise or whatever you want to call it at the end of the day like it comes down as part of the design asset so when you'll get that you'll but that'll be part of it like the style frame exploration that will be part of the ideation of you know what is the piece that we're creating why are we creating it what's gonna be the final result and that's the thing is then you find the most efficient means of creating that because you know the day time is just time so work push forward to that but when you look at like for example I guess let's maybe I can we can go almost like go step by step of that I don't have the project on this computer because it's a massive project and it's actually Serrano door like 30 different projects but but let's go through this really quick here yeah so for example let's go for like right here so for example this was all actually so here's a quick tip for people that use Vimeo because Vimeo is amazing so if you're gonna use Vimeo and one of the big I guess tricks is to be able to shift left right left and right to be able to go frame-by-frame on Vimeo so you can actually go frame-by-frame so this is all actually done using shape layers so tyler morgan animated this this first kind of phone card and animation thing and he's now at Oddfellows just a stupidly talented man love Tyler Tyler and Sarah they're just awesome people so like you know this this finger flip is so for example this cuticle this bit here is actually a shape layer that's again animated frame by frame as well as this path so this path is again just kind of animated and then we have a duplicate of that with this texture kind of overlaid and again that's to be able to make that kind of workout and shape layer its frame by frame that's right okay and the same thing with like the shadow here that we're creating like the shadow is again created like again frame by frame and then just frame by frame and then everything kind of like unfolds and as you can see like one of the like kind of clever tricks when it comes down to it when you're animating it this comes from like a traditionalist background is uh it's called pose-to-pose animation so essentially like you're going from like one pose to another pose to another pose but the thing is like that what's gonna sell it instead of just like having the the pose and then next pose next pose it's about the anticipation so you get ready to move you move and you overshoot then you settle and then you move again so that end of that quick movements with the easing makes a huge huge huge difference and that's the things like that's tricking the eye because you're allowing the eye to be able to fill in those gaps and that's the thing that's the the best trick because when I was working at a traditional animation studio this is going back years and like decades ago now fat cat animation studio with Jean Fowler and you know I worked with so many people like Esteban Valdez and like Robert Anderson just so many really great people Daniel elder he's like great great traditional animators that can like again I have learned and grown with them and one of the things is like learning is that it's all tricking the eye 24 frames per second the trick is like you know you can lie you can cheat you can steal the eye but you have to give a direction in like part of the direction is going to pose to pose but then it's that it's kind of that that over she mm-hmm because you can just trick the I like for example if you're gonna do a head turn in After Effects or even flash you can do one of two ways you can rig the face and you want to have another rig face because these are the poses that people traditionally will hold like three-quarter front but to be able to get from face to face you can either do it cuz smear which is like you know blurred learn shape or we can do is again its anticipation action and then settle so that kind of transition your eyes fill in the gaps and you think that just happened but it didn't really didn't and that's the thing is like that's wheaton that's the way you can like lie cheat and steal to the eye and it's a huge be able to be a time saver yeah that's awesome so like again like you can see like for example from boom we're into another transition and that was only a few frames right and that's i think is like people look at this and they think it's super smooth and super like super clean but like you look at this like one two three four five you're looking about seven frames seven frames at 24 frames that's less than a second that's a third of a second like you're literally flying through this and that's the thing is that's really the trick when it comes to this kind of stuff again transitions one two three four five like you always use twenty-four frames yeah i find 24 frames per second to be the best thing and i say that why it's the best thing is just because you can scale so if people are so using traditional media again like ntsc which no almost nobody does for pal for example which is 25 or 29 97 or whatever weird kind of formats you're allowed to be able to have that kind of that forgiveness room for like say three to one like three two one pull down helps a lot but 24 has that scalability that you're able to use and move around so it really really works really well it is i don't really understand this i think this is your buddy paul saying this one by the way how do I decide on what so swap out with super so I don't see I don't it's kind of like a little on the the cusp so like a really good example is like for example like originally like I wanted to be able to start and stop to be able to cuz like the whole concept behind this piece was you know your first thing you wake up in the morning you turn on your iPhone to be able to see your messages read your inbox so that's kind of why we have the swipe on and what's the next thing that you have after you have like you know you go through your inbox you have a coffee so when that's happening is a coffee cup and so then here we are a coffee cup and then again using the holes make the hole smear kind of transition is like we go from this we go from like you know this iPhone swap thing to the coffee cup and then back to the coffee cup it down that's that's three frames one two three and that's the thing is like boom we're there I think what's really compelling for me is your is your shape I would call it shape tweening in ODIs right 3d that pops up and you're like you're blowing my mind well that's the thing is like I'm tricking the mind to be able to see what you're thinking you're seeing because like at the end of the day like you know you just seen can we look do you mind digging into just like the whole it really part yeah absolutely so again like when I'm kind of like it's kind of a mix of styles and like techniques here so obviously you know I have this what you think means maybe a dot but actually since I already knew that the destination and what I want to transition this into I ended up using an actual just the shape path line and then with that I'm using obviously trim paths and trim paths is allowing to be able to kind of like animate this but also give that smear effect and I can control it so in that way I have full and absolute control over everything I'm doing and then on top of that obviously using color they animate that and then I have this outline again just using the same shape path that I had as before but this time I'm actually using offset paths so you can see here like I can offset neck grow and shrink and it's a really great way to be able to dial in a specific look so it helps it'll hold on so yeah so like you know and then again I'm animating everything and you can see that you know it's linked like I'm parenting to this which is then also parented to to then also I've oh get right here here's my null and again this null is again controlling allowing we were to have overlapping animation which I guess it comes down to mm-hmm and so then you know I can do a lot of like for example when I'm transitioning back to this for example and again using the all-powerful null again just to be able to help that and that's kind of one of the most important things is to understand that like to get overlapping animation parenting is a huge way to be able to help to be able to constantly kind of build effects and stacking and looks to be able to make things happen super quick so again it's just understanding what you're doing and I guess a really good technique here is actually I should show this comes from like traditional animation is not just your easy ously has to be one of the strongest games of what work that you do but you also have to realize to be able to register in the human mind of what you're actually looking at is called like a hold frame so typically like in like I can say if I want to hold frame and I say After Effects I can like just make a hold frame that's ctrl alt and then click but in this instance like you know I could just literally just copy paste just a keyframe it then that way it's Alderney linear interpolation there's not gonna be any event we're bouncing but then the thing is then gonna be super quick and the reason why I'm being I'm holding that frame is because I'm just about to be able to trick the mind into filling the gaps again because so this motion here is the quick flip as you can see that's just a pop frame mm-hmm so the whole trick is that I'm saying okay hold this because now you're registering it's like okay I'm waiting for two frames three frames how many frames that's the anticipation you're building an energy it's gonna be oh my god that's gonna be amazing it's gonna be so good and then by the time that happens boom I am now onto this I'm on to a cup and like so your mind fills that gap of I don't understand what just happened but I'm totally running with it and that's where you play with the perspective so you're showing this cup actually having that kind of skewed morphism kind of perspective of kind of I guess like it just works out really well because you're just tricking the mind and some of the gaps I like that and then again like you can see like that all that is is literally like I'm taking for example that layer so let's find that later and what's interesting is like I thought this was all one continuous animation I didn't really notice the hold it was probably me Oh totally and that's the thing is it's cuz like when you're looking at it you're anticipating your moving and your mind's filling gaps but they're one of the most important things when you're doing is like when you see holes or are you seeing something that's kind of waiting is the fact that you're building a story and that's the thing is like it's I always tell people like when they people ask me like what am i what is my job description I always say a motion designer not so much an animator like I can be a traditional animator I can be an arti an artsy fartsy animator but really when it comes down to it I'm building a story when it comes down to what I'm telling between keyframes because like I can make a box look super sad and like lonely and just kind of like rolling and trotting on or I can have a box that's super uppity and exciting like ooh things are gonna be amazing well you know at the end of the day that's the story your tongue and you're easing that's the story you're telling your keyframes and that's the thing is like you can be a keyframe warrior you can be whatever you want to be but it comes down to just understanding the purpose and the value of using yeah that has been i Ross or hot Ross is one of my best friends from London he's he if you want to know who's one of the best animators and like hands down that needs to be on one of these things it's Ross Glasgow hands down shout out to raw amazing awesome Ross good good I work with them I'd animate I love this guy I was learning a lot how about how Andrew works during his live session but he explains so much Dewey as well so theory and theory and then even specifics because somebody just says and I'm curious yes it you're using one one big composition or a bunch of yeah so in this instance for example it's so so tiny like this layer like this entire story like this is only 40 layers like I think of the day like this isn't crazy like this is like literally just manageable so like it's totally manageable and that's the things like why that's why I liked labels is so important to be able to clean up your layers to be able to like you don't necessarily need to pre comp stuff and one of the things that people constantly kind of have this concept of that you need to pre comp this you can you pre comp dye you can you totally can and it depends if it's gonna be able to work like I when I was watching Matt's class and one of the things when he was pre comping you know and he had that phone and then he had the null with that phone to be able to create that well how I would have create that is that I would kind of I would make that phone as a pre comp and then I turn on like continues from rasterization to be able to preserve that 3d movement within another comp and then it's still in respect to I guess the global / universal I guess world space when you're creating in After Effects because it's still existing in 3d and as long as you're smart about how you're positioning your anchor points and you're building around 0 0 0 and Cartesian coordinates it's gonna be good there's there's guy there Dan Bradley again if you want to talk about design oh my god like just wow like his yeah his stuff is just unbelievable actually just hire him to help me good logo he's so so so so good and like honestly like I can't if you're looking for anything design wise talk to Dan Bradley Dan Bradley design like seriously like he'll have a look at that guy up Oh his stuff is timeless and just so good yeah Dan Bradley designed so good nice so good so good to see such awesome people who only like I can't believe I honestly I know everybody as I kind of talked me up and trying to like support me but I'm only here because of the community like the community has given me everything like I've I've had hard times I've had good times but like at the end of the day they've always been there for me and they've always helped me get better it sounds like you're also cuz you know you're what in Kingston which is not not because metropolis so I'm sure a lot of your a lot of your social interaction kind of comes online and your community person online like they don't live where you live no and that's the thing like you know that very well you know you've never seen well that's the things I Paul for example I met Paul for the first time I've known him for about three four years now and I met him the first time this year at blend fest in Vancouver and it was just like total like big hugs and just like bro fives like it was just awesome you gonna be able to see these people and be able to interact yeah we do that are we are we get in the way we could probably move our little video of us to the right if you wanted to I don't know if we're overlapping because we're kind of like yeah it's only the first really parks like after this it's like there's not really much else because this is like house I swear you just surround yourself with good people you and you know you just you just get better - you're like how'd this happen it's like I want you to rub off on me Daniel totally not that weird it's kind of but that's the things like it's all about osmosis I got the end of the day like people have to remember that it's all about surrounding yourself with great people people who are motivated passionate because like I can't tell you enough how important that it hey there's Allen like Allender Murphy's wow he got he teaches on Linda website he's yeah so Allender Murphy's okay awesome awesome artists he's so fantastic in Simla like just just a beast and like paul saying the big shout out to everybody from the motion design slack like again that's just a great community kind of brought together by the community for the community Brian BAM what Brian's here oh my god that's amazing yeah I know probably not Dan I know right but like that's the thing is that gonna comes down to it like it really is about people and that that's I can't say this enough I can't hammer this enough because they've picked me up every time like I feel like quitting or they pick me up when I feel like I'm not enough to be able to continue doing what I'm doing and I've sacrificed a lot for this career and like for me it's the most important thing I have to say is like follow your passion like your passion will take you through the highs and the lows and honestly like it's so so so hard but you have to realize that the biggest part of it is understanding your value and understanding that you everybody has something to give back into the world and it's so important yeah man and you've I mean you were telling me stories you you pretty much did everything but sleep in your car yeah maybe you did sleep in your car well that's things like I yeah in your office oh yeah that's that's pretty that's how my regular basis I know well I'll be honest like there's days where like there's weeks where I don't sleep for maybe three four days I'll be I'll be honest that still happens now but that's the kind of things like like Here I am again I'm comfortable with this because you do use like I guess I'm gonna pull an all-nighter and this is gonna happen you have to and that's the things like you kinda have to understand that like you have to go through it's not like you know trial fire it's understanding the value and the virtue of this work isn't necessarily like a nine-to-five job it's a passion job and the passion job requires sacrifice and that's the thing is like what are you okay with sacrificing and unfortunately you know that I've had I've had good things and I have that bad things come and go in my life but I've always kind of had this virtue and this value the understanding that things will get better and you know honest like I'm here like I can't believe I'm actually here this is like I got yeah I was flying here I'm living like the plane I started breaking down on the plane I can't believe this happened and this was life yeah it's pretty awesome and it's and it's good to finally have you out here we'll just switch to my screen if you don't you don't mind I'm just here hide man I want to show more animation to the cooler stuff and where does Evan Abrams what does he live compared to you yes he's about two hours away that's right Ottawa that's right that's right so she's about two hours away gotcha but yeah Canadians in the house I know this is a little bit different but this is like your commitment to animation I know this is more cell based yeah totally again we've all been there and I'm kind of curious like you've worked in you know flash which is now Adobe anomie that's right yeah you've bounced around After Effects of course yeah it's well I've tricks kind of like the backbone to a lot of this because like like traditionally so After Effects isn't built for animation sorry but the thing is like again because the community is so strong it's enabled to be able to grow shape and mold into this incredible I guess beast because you have so much support you have so much people that are supporting that and that's honestly that's the most important part you have to realize for any kind of software as always to be able to look to the community that is I guess not necessarily just a hype but the backbone because I gather the day after facts like I've know so many After Effects animators but we use so many third-party tools and that's because it makes our lives easier and at the end of the day like that's why After Effects has so much so much support I guess like you see here like so many these big names in this chat I can't believe they're all here like on a second kind of like doesn't make me want to cry but I'll be honest I'm pretty close to this but like honestly like it's it's amazing to be able to see so many people that supports not just me but like I hope this is for anything this is about the people like at the illness at the end of the day like I really the people are everything yeah like honestly if you can do anything I guess for life if you want to show that makes the Scotiabank one or even like that bloomberg peace lots of fun like those are really cool after feeling my backgrounds are a bit in empty yes even your question like Sid says you know what was I mean you might want to like die no no why did you use what is the do be animate today aka flag yeah so like verses one over the other yeah so like that's the things like an After Effects you can you can't really animate I guess traditionally you can like if you did frame by frame how many like how many layers that's just it like got the other day you're looking at so many layers that it becomes completely just unnecessary like you know there's times like you know like that's where flash comes in it's it's amazing it's fantastic but like at the end of the day like when you're looking for the best tool for the job and to be efficient you have to ask yourself but the thing is like you have to realize that like you have to pick the best tool again go back to the whole euphemism of being a carpenter you have to realize like it's it's super important to be able to use the best tool for the job you know you're not gonna hammer in a nail with not like not know it's not like a what's it called like a driver yeah told me right and that's the things like but people have this kind of concept actually and like that's the things like use the best tool for the job yeah exactly and before that robot one sorry well dance it here right here that's the one that was huge how you are your inspiration who is my inspiration no way Sarah's here that's awesome sir Sarah Ben Bello she's awesome there's just a killer animator from England oh I love this stuff like each time I every time I start watching an animation I still want to even get into the nuts and bolts of even like this sweet transition but yeah so like stuff like that like that's literally just a mask with like a layer mode of just dancing noise yeah there's like hairstyles you can also use like noise as well Sam cute what are some of that like actually yeah we can talk about inspiration but even I noticed even like trends right now I think what's happening here is this flat look with texture is kind of super hot right now yeah that's I think it's also I think it's completely driven by the technology so I think it really comes down to like you know technology inspires art and art inspires technology and the thing is like right now we're using tools for example like After Effects we're using tools that are predominantly easier on us as artists that allow us to do faster job so the big thing is like sitting here to be able to work on this you know where we're trying to pick the best tool for the job and so for at the end the day like we just have to realize that what are you doing why are you doing it what helps yeah exactly yes and this is mostly so this is like a mix of After Effects traditional that's when this was tough to nail down like blender like there's so many like kind of and that's the things like it's completely down to mixed-media like for example the clouds here here and the clouds the clouds they're all traditionally animated that are all done in flash like this lumberjack guy all completed done in flash but then like yeah I broke up the layers and use layer styles and be able to make the noise texture like any 3d like have you ever gotten into cinema 4d well that's where I started so I originally I went to college I went back when I went to college I went to CERN 3d and it was to learn like it was the learn like light wave and three studio max so it was lightweight version 4.5 and three discrete three studio max 3.5 and one just graduate was like when it was just like the second year it just operated version 4 it's like I'm dating myself pretty high heavy here but that's the thing is like it's understanding like I took this and be able to have the basis and that's where like my instructor I guess my teacher my mentor or whatever you want to call him Tony Gilcrest like Tony and Norma and Debbie these people were like formative Darren formative to my entire career like kind of outlook of what I was creating and why I was creating it and it's understanding like the foundations why does this look or why does this work and it's based off of solid understanding and so that's that's really important that's one of the most important things is understanding the house and the wise because then that way you can build off of them even for if their benefits or even if their credits like it and then you could be able to understand what that looks like why ya know that's good I mean it's nice that you have that background you know even at the end of the day you were creating emotion well that's the thing is like you it's a it's a medium it's a format it's something that's storytelling at the end of the day like you have to realize that you know it's it's really about understanding the story you're trying to tell and what how you're trying to encompass that and one of the biggest things like people after hey there's Mike Mike makes joysticks and sliders this tool like friggin like huge like this piece used a ton of joysticks and sliders how was lumberjack made it was made in flash well I guess animate see see now but yeah that's the big thing is like rubber hose yeah rubber hoses fantastic - Sarah mmm made by my friend Adam but again it's all storytelling and that's the thing is like it's understanding who the medium is where you're going and how you can help and that's the thing is like in the day that's excuse me that's that's really important because you have to be able to protect your the people you work with but the other day like it's all about working with good people and again going back to the whole community thing is making sure everybody is taken care of everybody is kind of a part of the team and understanding what that looks like yeah no that's good and and I think for these cases did you did you have was there are you working like within illustrators like there's I I assume a big big project like this there's a separate you don't get these like keyframes if you will yeah totally and that's a huge thing is like you have to realize that the part of the process is so like the big part for me obviously you have your script and once you have your script nailed down you can make storyboards and that's the thing is like understanding what that is like why do you why do you like you know why are you doing the storyboard so we would go from the storyboard ideation into style frames and these style frames helps tell the story and you know at the end of the day like you have to realize that these story frames or these style frames are gonna be able to help kind of evolve and part of the process of a project like every project is understanding that you're building iteratively it's all about you know understanding like everything you create is completely like Lego blocks I think even the smallest two-prong Lego block is gonna help tell that story because you're building piece on piece on piece on piece on piece on piece on piece of movies and that's that work that's a that makes I don't know it snowspeeder or let's say a walker or let's say Batman's Batmobile who knows at the end of the day like the most important thing is understanding it's all pieces of the project it's all each step yeah and do you think it's also like kind of realizing what you're good at and like what you cuz you could go down the illustration route or that you know what I'm saying like I've made a motion design you know what I'm saying like closely there's a lot of knowledge and just like knowing what you're good at and not good at oh no in your boundaries massively and that's the things like that's the thing that's kind of scares me is like people try to do everything and so at the end of the day like myself if you want it like for myself I got the end the day I guess for me like what I'm really good at is like I'm really good at directing I'm really gonna produce a I'm really good at animating like that's my thing that's where I'm good at and I know these things I guess that's me and like at the end of the day like when I'm working or doing something at the other day it's understanding yeah part of what you're good at but it's also using the best of the for the town best for the job I got that you're being asked for because like I don't think people realize is that it's more important about working in doing the best you can do as part of a team like you know like literally just work at that as your best I guess that makes sense like you know if I want a really good animator for example Ricardo did a lot of this heavy lifting like Ricardo's an awesome animator in like Ricardo did a lot like he's understanding like I know that he's a really good animator I can trust him and I can kind of like say hey great I need you to do this see a second sequence of scenes because like you have to remember just like doing traditional that's a Disney animation part of the big part of that is understanding that you had there's a bean see scenes and understanding what that value looks like then there's other animators that are maybe not that good but you can start teaching them part of the process and then that week and you can teach them how you work as an animator how you work as a director and how you're gonna be able to help other people grow and change and I guess evolve yeah he's Ricardo here no I don't think you can refer you can't afford a team that's the trick like for the first like honestly the biggest thing is like that I did honestly it was like four years like literally the first two years my freelance career i starved I stole food from grocery marks I stole food from trash bins because I couldn't afford to live I just couldn't afford live I could only have enough money to be able to pay my rent and I was launching a single room in a house and for me that was a huge part of my life and but I kept on making steps forward what does that look like what does that mean and that's such a huge part of understanding part of the sacrifice of what that means to me anyways and what that looks like so yeah no it's good good stuff seems like everybody is here pretty much everyone is here by the way exactly said everybody of the community oh dude like this is like honestly the who's who of the community that's where it's kind of like blowing my mind well switch so we could switch back to your screen if you won't look at stuff I got today like all because I'll talk about have this plane like you know demo after demo yeah well switch to you yeah yeah it's totally cool they got them today like but like so yeah I guess like this piece is pretty straightforward I'm not too sure if there's anything that you guys want to see per se about it but yeah for example let's go to talk about rubber hose rubber hose were used they use the feet and like the legs obviously like rubber hoses such a beast when it comes down to it we talk about rubber hoe like totally people know what rubber hose is I like to think so because it's such a such a huge part of I guess this industry now is understanding like rubber hose for example like allows you to have almost like organic limbs and understanding like you have this kind of flexibility and the nice thing about that is like that's awesome it's fantastic it's great it works however you want it to work and that the thing is like my favorite part about rubber hose is this static so for example like you know I can say my bend radius is this and so instead of having you know a rigid rigid rigid need jello knee exactly it's like why not and that's the thing is like understanding what you know like it's understanding the purpose of it like and being non-destructive because you're always gonna have client feedback you're always gonna have people to come back and say you know I was thinking this but what if we tried this and at the end of the day like that's kind of part of the process it's understanding that you know you're gonna get feedback you're gonna get iterations design changes meanwhile through production but if you can be flexible if you can be nimble and be smart why not and that's the thing is that's why you have to use your tools and and that's where like the community is important because the community makes a lot of the tools that I use in my process because it's so important are we having a drinking game every time I say community drink I have no or or at the end of the day I think that's another phrase that somebody's living it out I don't know if y'all have those filler phrases like we all do like people you'll eliminate if the at the end of the day and then you'll substitute with something else yeah so if I'm not gonna say community community community commuter Inc exactly it is rubber hose this is not a cold brew question I was trying to totally you're trying to figure out what that way it looks like again it's looks like a Guinness but I was like I don't know if that's like an espresso or if that's like coffee or they call it nitro it's like oh it's nitro coffee yeah go through that is totally trying to figure that out you need one workers work at this party sorry I won't lie like I am caffeinated all the time rubber hose and Newton you know TD no yes what do you want us to make what do you what do you guys want to it seems like we have so many experts in the room yeah thank like it's kind of like how do you intimidate like yeah yeah like ask me questions or like I'm I'm silly like you know as far as animation goes like we can talk though I love this I've never used rubber hose and I'm like sold I absolutely love this thing and that's the things like you're not even everything you just did it just seems easy to work with well that's is it or is it not Oh totally and that's kind of hands down what makes it really great and understand I mean look at that walk cycle then you create an easier walk cycle look at that look at that that seems so super simple and like that's the things like when you look at the keyframes like yeah you're gonna have a ton of keyframes let's be honest you're gonna have a ton of keyframes but again it's like trying to figure out what you're trying to create and so you know that's the things like I know what I know what I want and I know how I'm I guess how I'm gonna have to craft it if I'm making sense oh that would be kind of fun a movie title sequence sounds kind of fun that's terrifying oh like that's so much tags but also like look really like if you were like one word we kind of all and actually do you when you when you even start out do you starting with your given illustrator files is that yeah so like part of my process is going from the script to storyboards just from like style frames and then having those staff frames and flushing them and for every part of the project and that's the thing is like and again a big part of I guess working professionally is understanding that you have a process understanding that you have like a standardized operating process or an SOP so the big part of his understanding that we are creating or while you're crafting it is understanding totally is moving every step of the process in a waterfall methodology I'm a huge fan of waterfall and not so much agile because well agile is just nuts and at the end of the day and that's the thing is like I much work in a waterfall methodology because like I get the client on board with what I'm creating and and myself I get to figure out what I'm creating far in advance and you know it's like almost like an athlete like a hundred meter dash athlete you know you're not sitting there and you're just like showing up at the Olympics like all right I'm ready to run this hundred meter it's gonna be great it's gonna be awesome I'm really excited you don't do that that you trained for that moment and the thing is you think about that moment you process that in like every step every foot you plant you're thinking about how what must are you gonna fibre like how you're gonna turn and what you're gonna do next and that's no different than animation like part of the process is ideation is understanding what you're creating why you're creating it and walking through the process of that so storyboards yeah going from point A to point B to Point C that's a huge thing what's next Ziya frames okay now is this gonna be an easy way to be able to animate is it gonna be what cool are you gonna use for for animation I don't know but that kind of is defined by the style that the client and you pick then you could be able to move forward you keep moving forward yeah that's good seems like we go I'm so deeply a waterfall we have a lot of we have like a lot of like different requests and good thing I'm so happy we have you here for three days which is fantastic so some of the things we can get to like Oh swindle later you know so you know sort of like throw it people were throwing out ideas create a title sequence you know some some title intro yeah maybe build out a rig somebody says fake some 3d with shape layers you know that stuff what about like mixing you know combining different effects using After Effects rigs with cel animation is just like different ideas Oh totally and I guess like the biggest thing is like honestly like okay so for example talking about waterfall do you keep things to find in sections or blurry I always keep things very defined a section so it's very important to be able to understand what part of the process you are in like and that's the thing is like at the end of the day it's most it's it's hugely important to understand what part of the process and that way the clients also on board on that so in that way your work collaboratively and that's one of the most important things that people need to realize is that part of the process is being collaborative in the environment of a client because at the end of the day this is a service-based industry we work together or part of a team together that's huge all right let's see yeah fake 3d plus morphing a lot of my fake 3d I'll be completely honest I'm a huge fan of element 3d element 3d is fantastic to be able to help do I guess pseudo 3d moves that's a huge thing guess the Cintiq yeah that'd be pretty killer actually I can totally go over like or step by step for frames whoo Kazakhstan nice how do I create color palette obviously Adobe color or cooler or whatever you want to call it like by far the best tool you could have a huge make one thing turn into another in a creative way the basis for all motion graphics at transition ding you create an animatic before animating Oh Massa Lee that's one of the most important things is like I actually had a thing and understanding where you're creating why you're creating it it's huge yeah that is good so many so many fun ideas by the way I like and you know I think talking about so that you can pawn everything yeah so this is a design I love the idea of the fake 3d and that morphing which is like a transition like all the stuff that you're doing and yours that's that you have these little things that are like a little x-factor like oh yes I know right and that's kind of like my jam that's the big things like I always kind of want to be able to push that just a little bit more because at the end of the day like I want to twist like you know I say it like this what I say and it's truly not at all what it is but like for me the most important thing is understanding like that fourth wall like understanding like what you're creating and why you're creating it and like how do you break that kind of build up and that's like again when we're going through that animation previously is having that whole frames because like you're watching smooth smooth animation but what's gonna break it hold wait pause build up anticipation make people excited and then you break that and that's where you break that with fast action and then that's where your anticipation your your overshoot and then you settle like that's a huge big part of it so for example like this is actually a design I was done by my friend Sylvia bloomer yang she like I've worked on with her at Bloomberg for doing we're doing a series for Bloomberg right now and she's oh oh my god like she's by far one of the most talented designers it's from like wow like so good so yeah she she designed this up for me to be able to present this and we'll break this down and animate it up I don't actually have it animated because I'll be completely transparent honest I really don't like having things scripted kind of weird but I kind of want to go step by step teach people that part of the process is actually just doing like that's the big thing is like you know there's always gonna be happenstance and say hey this didn't work out the way it did I have like Matt's presentation like you know going through clicking a button by accident came up with a completely different result that turned out to be awesome yeah chances are you're pregnant learn some things don't like cocaine how you learn is like you're starting out we don't know where we're gonna go coldly and that's the things like and that's like so important for like this cuz like I guess for the community that drink is to understand that people have to realize that a part of it is doing the work you know like it's understanding that part of the work is just doing it you know there's no real and that's where like I guess I'm struggling here to be able to teach people that there's no process to what I do there's no way do for me to be able to create what I do because I think another day it's just work it's just hard work and doing doing the steps my in understanding like it's every step of the way understanding that that's what you have to learn I was like you know do the best you can within that without defined online and yes we did have Evan on last year actually Evan was in the house yeah a groom's I was somebody was asked here for long ago it's never time Andrew love your stuff and seeing how humble you are makes me appreciate you your craft even more well thanks have reused physics simulation plate and stuck Newton all the time Newton's fantastic it's a really great tool for making physics simulations you could also do ropes you could do liquid you could do a ton of different effects and that's the thing is like there's nothing that's kind of canned in a sense Millie Millie is an amazing designer from Norwich and England to like Wow like if you want to like again just amazing incredible design work awesome nice I should character animator it up and no no no character animator here sorry Sarah yeah but that's good I mean yeah at the day like I guess like that's the hardest thing to be able to I guess teach or show people is like it is part of the process and understanding that every step like you know everything kind of takes time and then shame the value of that time so for example like you know we can start diving in to be able to like break down every asset that we have and that's the one how do I can just like take a peek at the layers because that's how it's gonna come in right well that's the things like when you look at this this is pretty much okay and but the funny thing is like this is kind of typically how you get a lot of assets from you know like Ricardo's in the house yes I noticed Ricardo think Simon but like that's the thing as I trust me actually I have Sarah if you want to talk about your beautiful awful character Riggs actually I learned a lot from Sarah with her character Riggs so one of the things actually I learned was that's yeah this has got to be in so like I was working and I was so liked I just want to learn so no one's Sarah's like no one wants to see my awful rigs so for example like this is like a cat that I animated and the design was actually done by one of my friends Jason Smith and I loved it I saw it on two under ibile excuse me and that's where I just learned I guess I was like it's all three-stroke but anyways long story short us trying to figure out this but one of the things that Sarah taught me it was actually had to be able to make this face rig so she taught me I guess how to be able to make this little rig and build like you know move left and right right like you can get some nice character offset and then you know up and down you can see like again it's just kind of having that picture a little overlap and I've always like how do you do that without doing lots of keyframes and that was like a huge thing for me it was just like there's got to be part of the process there's got to be a better way to do something and that's the thing is like there's always a better way handles here no I don't think it is what is that the face layer yeah so the face layer is just a null and so on top of the knowledge I have a these eyes for example right so you'll see here what I'm doing is I'm just actually just offsetting a lot of things here and so you can see like for example this is probably the most important part of this entire thing and well actually I'll just bring it right up so you'll see when I'm taking the value of this exposition cuz I split the I guess and you can see split the position and oh yeah it's a great system but totally limiting but again it's one of those things that it helps for a lot of small use cases and if you define that use case happy days so for example like you know this helps out a lot so I'm taking the value whatever this position is and then I'm adding the position here with a slider control that I have so I'm adding this value to this value and then I'm also multiplying by two and that's going to be a factor based off of how much distance you want so one of the things it's governing a ton based off of the parallax in the distance I'm traversing and so it's understanding that that depth and how can you fake that how can you trick that in After Effects and there's so many ways to be able to like trick that inside of After Effects and that's the thing is like this is just one way and like Sara taught me here that it's like she taught me this just really simple way of doing it I was like why didn't I think of this before this there we go and she she just put in the the formula essentially which are slowly yeah and that's the thing is like it's understanding like sliders like the slider is generating a value that value is then being added to the value of this position and that's the left to right and that's where like again I want to break it up so then now what I can do is gonna have left right up and down motion so in that way I can get some nice overlapping animation happening and that's the big thing is like understanding like for example if I'm looking at the face here you see this kind of like this tilt this faced herd then one of the most things to eat most important things you have to realize when you do like say a face turn for example let's see here what is that layer so if I'm gonna take do to do to do or so for example we're looking at this face here one of the things that you have to realize like see that left to right and up and down motion that little motion that love a little bit obviously tells a huge story of depth that's telling me in a story of this character having some 3d pseudo depth so that right off the bat makes a huge difference and understanding like that kind of parallax turn cuz like your head never just robotic Li turns left right right left and just never does moves like if you're doing anything you have to remember that like the human bodies has so many articulation points so when our storytelling its boom like moving a left right and it's understanding like you're moving your body your body is moving with weight and purpose and that's the thing is again understanding the kinesiology are at the kinesthetics or if you want to call it whatever you want to call it at the end of a like it's understanding the mechanics of how the body moves and operates because right away as an animator and as a viewer you're gonna connect you're gonna be able to say this works because I can I can see that it's happening and so that's a big thing is understanding that value and so right off the bat we were able to create that kind of that kind of motion so you can see like the paw comes out bowling and then licking his arm as cats do comes back up and again you can see that again that's over just the overlapping motion like you'll see like that arm for example no papa papa where is it so this is the original design from Jason Smith and then I just recreate it in here with an After Effects using shape layers but one of the big things actually is like making a really good drink it's gonna sound silly but one of the tricks that I did was actually for his body yeah so like for example like this is I have the body in the face all into this one position I love it so how I'm actually doing that what most people are like well how did you do that why did you do it that way so the body is actually just a beam effect so the beam effect again that's all that is so if I'm looking at just the beam effect what is the beam effect like what is it produce so you'll see so this is the effect on a shape that's right it's like it's just a just like a solid with the beam effect okay so right off the bat like all I'm doing is essentially just moving this beam effect and you can see you like so this beam effect essentially just recreates the body and you can see that it's offsetting here it looks kind of janky essentially but with a nice mask like you know if I could have just a matte here to be able to kind of like say you know I just want you to be able to move within a certain point and then that's how I was able to Trek that aesthetic so there it is there's the aesthetic right so that makes a huge difference in like obviously you see there's the animation and just a beam boom and that's the thing is like you can trick so much little things by using tools that I've built within and that's the things like understanding the virtue and the value of what that looks like mind blown very cool so yes again it's just tricking and like understanding like there's so many little things like you don't have to look at the effects panel as like a way that would people would be yeah this is totally a way before a rubber hose and like that's the things like understanding again why are you creating the look what's the aesthetic well the static was this so I saw this and like the first thing my mind was the taper so I was trying to figure out it was like what do i do do i do i animate shape layers do I animate paths well that's that's really cumbersome like why would I do that to myself like if I was going to do that with like head turning or moving up and down like constantly and trying to be excited like I can't why would I do that what I do with paths that's just making more work for myself and I'm all about efficiency so it's like you know at the end of the day like no like that's that's silly and like that's the thing is like what's gonna be more efficient well there's a taper so okay I need a taper if I look at it like a different way of looking so what does that look like can you pick that apart more or I mean somebody wants to tell them tell them no no no a top deal so again we can see like here it is I here's the start in the end so you can again and you can create kind of that the taper and is that a if you turn off that effect real fast just so yeah justise oh okay that's it that's it so again if i turn it on positive original surprise so that's it like legit that's it yeah there you go is that good for I mean would you would you use this today for the same type of scenario anytime you wanted um honestly align we'll see that's where like the rubber hoses fantastic now that came in because at the end of the day hey Tony's here too it's awesome like that's the thing is like at the end of the day like it makes a lot of sense so there's Sebastian loam Sebastian and I work with I guess his company called think mojo like I worked with think mojo and Alfred coming up on two years but by far like these guys have given me so many opportunities I love I love think mojo and like if he can like honest they think mojo has done a lot for me and like I can't tell you enough like just how much the professionalism their attitude they've just gone above and beyond for me all the time anyways back to the beam what I use beam again ah for this case yeah because the thing with rubber hose it's such a beast and bloated for like like consuming for processing it's just so so big but the virtue and the value of it is that the fact that you can have flexibility you can move things without actually not thinking about it and I like it's non-destructive which is fantastic but that's where beam comes back in and beam for example again I can completely change the aesthetic of this for example if I wanted to change anything I can go back in here and I can change what that looks like right I can completely change this aesthetic so again the body here so if I want to change where is that body now do to do cat body this is the one so sorry I'm missing all these effects guys but hey that's we get for news new laptop so for example if I wanted to change the static of this cat body like see I can just change it on the fly and I have a completely different answer there's an expression that ties the end well that's the things like for the ending point I don't necessarily need that at all and that's the things like see their standing point I really don't need that ending point let's say how do you look how are you attaching me actually I guess it would be the start point yes exactly so again the start point is literally just grabbing the null position all position so literally just pick whipping the face and then that's it and then the face controls everything again completely non-destructive hey Danny's here Danny Mike Steve Kirby Patrick all these guys are the names that you want to know if you want to know any of these names in the industry so basically no animation is being done right now yeah just watching yeah it's kind of like a shutdown North America or they're working and watching at the same time which is a great idea yeah right that's why I can watch pick up kind of like hips I have to say that's kind of what I did because I've been on today like like that's again there's another kind of aesthetic that I can go with if that's what I wanted to go with like here's the cat and again like you just taught Ross something new and Ross knows everything or I don't know if he's messing with us so for example like this little kind of like divot I guess you already feel kind of create here it kind of like sucks so in this sense like you know how would you fix that you like obviously I used to use fast burr a lot but since Adobe II just recently updated the Gaussian blur so now the Gaussian blur Gaussian excuse me people are gonna hate me for this but you can see you can blur that and that's the things like okay so why are you blurring that well you can trick it to be able to use curves for example this is a huge kind of thing that I do a lot so I'll go into the Alpha and then like right off the bat I want to start crushing that alpha value so then I can start bringing in details and values of that so they again you can see I'm starting to round out that that harsh divot that harsh kind of like look that I had so you can see I'm starting to soften in a bit and that's the thing is like when I'm kind of like cranking it's like I don't want to crank it too hard because then I get this weird step you look but if I play it in just Vanessa just I ever so much I get a nice little stack there and so then right off the bat it's far smoother than I had previously and you can see that now it's a GPU enabled with the Gaussian blur that allows me to be able to have kind of faster playback preview speeds so that's huge and like any GPU effect that you can get out there get it save so much time sapphires brilliant hitfilm ignite Express free it's completely free it's just awesome it's so good yeah so it's just connected has the body connected to the head that's a a then like expression exactly as you can see like I can completely have like complete flexibility so you can see like kind of a chubby cat totally and that's that's part of the beauty of it I guess you know like I can totally just so there's pretty limiting do you find ya the simple choker is like it's alright but the thing is like you kind like so tumble chokers essentially kind of doing the same thing in the process but it's also breaking up the like it's doing a lot more computations than you need to do in this way effects like it helps with previewing but also works out really really well yeah levels alright I just like curves because I curves like I like I'm more of a visual person I need to go see it yeah I noticed there's like different camps on that levels and Chris I I've I've kind of discovered sometimes it depends on when you learn the tool the totally or what you use yeah totally something for Photoshop like it's kind of the same well that's just it and that's the things like when people always they kind of like it down on my like I guess get down on my style or my purpose or like what I'm trying to create like if I had time today like I'm not gonna use Photoshop I'll be honest I'm totally not gonna use Photoshop to be able to animate like it's it's a good tool to be able animate but you know I'm gonna use and I'm gonna use CC or animate cc you know for this static step I'm known for what I do that's far better that's far stronger you know two moons fantastic like it's you it's a huge help as well yeah exactly so that's good and people are just kind of commenting on you guys are having problems you can always hit the YouTube button if you're having problems with the chat you watch on YouTube but once you're on Adobe live and just you guys know there is a contest going on if you're looking on Adobe live we have a contest that centers more around After Effects and because what we have up next is Rachel and win and so just a time check we have about 30 ish minutes but you can see like typically like this is how I usually break down part of the process is understanding like this is I'll be completely honest and it comes down to it like you know just consent horrible and I'm not trying to throw anybody on the bus but when you get stuff from illustrators thank you illustrate they're not saying guess what it's not all about youth they're not and they're not just thinking about you the whole time yeah that's kind of what you're saying they're not really you could who knows what type of file you're giving well that's the thing is like and you have to realize like what that looks like you could break this up in After Effects you could do a whole suite and twelve different things but I personally myself like I kind of much rather just breaking things down by hand because it helps me kind of like I said before I did the part of the process that's understanding the virtue and the value of what I'm creating why I'm creating it because again like it helps me kind of mentally prep like I can look at this effect and I can start breaking down in my head of how I'm gonna animate this why do I name it this way why would I do it this way why would I do it that way I don't know I'll be completely honest I don't know and that's part of the process as part of understanding what I'm creating and I guess for me that's that's part of the fun because I get that they you you don't know what you're gonna Cree and that's the things like that's understanding why the why why why why why how do you somebody's asking what's the plug in we're wait Kyle's here Wow yeah where you call up the effect on the spot what's that short what's that oh that's FX console again FX console yeah exactly yeah Kyle come at me bro like honestly like you have done such a huge service to the Photoshop community I can't tell you enough just your brushes are overwhelmingly amazed work and truthfully speaking like I would do anything to be able to work with you to be able to help you learn After Effects hands down there you go that'd be fun to see I'm sure you'd love to see is even the brushes animate well that's the things like Photoshop like that's what makes really perfect is like the facts like at the end of the day like he is like his brushwork is so fantastic and that's where you can totally use his brushes for animation and a lot of people do use it for animation it's just it's again it's incredibly powerful hmm oh yeah totally handmade there's so many textures out there so much knowledge you're inspiring me to learn well my name is AE after all so I know you I know you have a lot of love for the community but somebody asks you gotta need them you got a nemesis out there oh I have to say Steve Kirby that's not true at all like I just make fun of it but Kirby but no seriously Steve Steve is one or like one of my good friends from England I'm actually gonna crash on his couch he's awesome like Steve is incredibly kind and sweet and very open to learn and he's just again we like I guess not really collaborate but kind of like share tips and tricks and techniques and review each other's work it's just at honestly just a huge part of again part of the process is understanding what that looks like it's just being being present you know like so huge and I think that's where people get lost sometimes is understanding like as I'm breaking up this process this project like yeah it's literally just breaking up the project there's no special way so for example if I look at this I'm like okay this so this is like an illustrators trick so I look at here the appearance do I see something okay there's a blend effect on here okay that's not the end of the world how would I kind of replicate this how would I animate it and back my mind I'm completely breaking down like what's built in After Effects and since I have been working after for After Effects for 16 years I think about all the kind of raster effects why would I do this what where would I go to next my mic you're amazing send me message soon love you but that's the thing is like at the end of the day that's the big thing is like understanding why do you could why are you gonna use this tool why to use that tool and for me like for example I could use echo echo would be a fantastic use for this purpose or maybe what I do is maybe I'll use the repeat like the shape later repeater maybe I'll use like red giants echo effect maybe I'll use like there's so many effects out there there's so many ways to be able to like you know skin I guess that's gonna prove you're a real cat and it's understanding why do I do what I do and that's the thing is like we did that on the last project yeah and the skin the proverbial cat yeah what kind of skin it right cuz never got out work that's good because you're looking at this luckily for this design its it already kind of has some motion built into the design and you're saying what effects or what totally that's bad and the thing is like I have to keep in mind to my own time because I at the end of the day is like I have to remember that I can do this again with a wealth of tools and effects but what's gonna be able to be more kind of flexible for the client for creatives or for my clients the ATRA quants to see things done so demanding that's alright seems more magic but yes paint and stick a huge fan of painting stick actually I used this paint stick for some of that robot piece because again it's it's like the first time like that you can actually animate traditionally with an app track it has an amazing onion skin tool and there's a really nice trick to be able to use like thanks Paul thanks for joining us Oh paws leave me bye bye a cast about catch a bus bye bye buddy thanks for dropping by they asked Paul he's kind of like my rock my heart make my bye place I always run - he's such a good guy right so let's see here that's coming through this really quick because people want to see stuff but I'll just show you what it quick so for example there's like for an onion skinning a really good trick here is like using ccy time and the reason why you see see Y times you can start to see like I can start to like be able to break down and see what it looks like and so like this is part of what I was saying about before go with easing is understanding like why because like part of animating is understanding what viewers are seeing how people are viewing the content so when you see this for example you can see like the grouping of these keyframes that's that's called easing that easing allows you to be able to hike again story tell and understanding the virtually the value of spacing within your animations and what you're trying to create school motion I'm always envious of James crew yeah James is just a beast when it comes to animation but James and Ross together mind-blowing talents in the same room all the time it sucks yeah see see why time it's fantastic for doing for the gun you're skinning like it's by far the best tool to build on your skin natively within After Effects yep it's all about the arc but the one thing about too is like people have to realize is when you're using arcs and After Effects one big trip one of the big tricks like when you're doing this kind of stuff is that you have to remember that you know why or how are you gonna do it and here's the big things like for me like with an After Effects for example you have all these Bezier controls and that's the things like understanding these Bay's help tell that story like this is the things like you can see these like these little breaks in this Bezier that's that's telling part of like the path of that cut for example and you could see like how I'm if that cup now comes up you can completely change how I'm gonna tell the story or I'm gonna move it over here or I'm gonna do something down here and again like I can have so much flexibility so for example if I want way down here and I want a lot more kind of grouping at that point you can see that now that with me dropping that it's popping up so much faster so again this is like super traditional for example but like you can see like so you can see like that literally just pops right up but like that's part of you know the fun there's the proverbial two frames so for example like you know like here like if I'm gonna have bringing over here and that was the big things like I'm trying to tell the story of this you know this line that becomes the coffee mug and again the storytelling again was waking up in the morning turning on your iPhone and then having your coffee and that's part of the story tank like you know so you know having his morning coffee whoever that is and he's text messaging next thing is like the phone comes out and then hey there's a camera and the camera again is like part of your story part of who you are a credit card paying for the coffee listen to music of the day YouTube like that's part of like all these kinds of things and that commuting to work that's what the whole map thing down here is about and then like that's kind of what the story is to devote how kind of instances really the adobe marketing cloud was about storytelling of you know like a day-to-day person like obviously there's like the camera taking the picture like there's a lot of little kind of elements in here that I was able to add in be able to kind of tell the story of so you can see like a lot of little things in there yeah that was good I know try animating a scene with 10 character exira so I think for and even if we take a look at the the illustrator file well yeah that's I mean that's that might that might be something that we could sort of like give it a go like we only have we you know wait you have Oh still about 30 minutes yeah it's just literally just breaking it down and the answering question yes but like that's the things like part of the process and part of me wanting kind of go unscripted is mostly these facts like there's nothing that kind of works out as you tend I guess if that makes any sense because I know they like part of the process is just making it happen and having with it like understanding that part of it is just doing like for me that's the most important part of I guess creating kind of any kind of art is just doing the art and understanding part of the process of what you create why you created I don't know that's kind of the magic for me anyways so what's the best technical best book or technically what's the best book or resource that you guys have for using for learning character animation oh that's a big one best book for learning animation honestly yes yeah I think you know this is gonna sound really cheesy but when it comes down to it it's you know the best thing you can ever do is observe life around you you know there's the lusion of there's the illusion of life by Richard Williams amazing I actually had dinner with him once he's an amazing he's a gentleman like he's oh sorry illustration of life is by Frank Canali the animators available to kids by Richard Williams Richard Williams that's the individual that I I had dinner with he's super super down earth and super just generous good guy he has it got a bad rep because of Who Framed Roger Rabbit but don't let that dismiss you he's a really good guy but yeah you can see as I like break up it's kind of Illustrator file I break it out on pretty extensively because you know as much as aspirin after-effects is a beast it's still one of those things that allows me like I still want full control over what I'm creating and that for me is huge because I've been of the day like I want to be able to have control every every path every frame every second because that's one that make sense so I try to break it down and again like at this point this is where I'm starting to understand or trying to figure out what I'm creating why am i create again you know like it's okay so there's bike so you don't want the clipping pass the bike so okay how am I gonna make this bike coming in I make a rig for X gonna be able to like if I move it on the X I guess axes also tie and de innovation of these frames absolutely so that's already part of the process that I'm starting to break up in my head why am i doing that well because that's the dis that I thought I want treat I'd say between 30 to 30 seconds to a minute honestly like if you go any above that and crazy like it's just not worth it like you're just you just wasting your time because like me myself as a director producer kind of guy if I if I watch your reel and I'm just like no no not watching passing this two minutes Oh totally there's always exceptions exactly right yeah but I I guess my my only two cents on that by the way like you're the man but you know put things in your demo reel for not not necessarily even what you did but this kind of work that you want to get well see that something is like this is it opens up a really kind of huge topic for me anyways like for me anyways like I don't know for me when it comes down to like do you want to be known for X do you want me to be known for why do you what do you want to be known for and personally speaking I'll be completely honest like you can invest the time and to be able to do individual work and I think that's that makes good time like that makes good sense and you can have the time you have the ability to invest in your own time and your own work but then again that opens up a lot of more questions and that's the thing is like where do you invest your time do you invest it into doing work for your clients or investing in yourself and you always always always always have to invest in yourself regardless and that's the thing is like that has to be something cognizant that you choose yeah I've been knew this for a long time a long time explode shaped layers do you use that I do I use exacts a good friend of mine we go way back six seven years but I think of the day like again I for this this example for example I example for an example like for me it's it's about going step per step because again it's allowing me to be able to start figuring out how do I want to animate this what kind of like story don't want to give for me that's the big part of his like understanding that like I can do this I don't use released layers because it just breaks a lot of things because again I want to be able to break up things specifically oh totally Kyle exactly and I think personal work done well that's the thing that's the time investment that you have to be able to do like that's the things that two cogs in a choice and like that's the things like for example that robot piece let's let's talk really quick with that robot piece where is that robot piece robot it's robot where it's like this robot piece for example like this robot piece you know when I look at this piece this piece like I was given from the Nadine from the Atlantic when she was she while she was working there and for me it was a massive risk you know like I had eight weeks $8,000 to make this work and most people in the like five minutes work and almost everybody like everybody was like no don't do this project like that's just a massive risk that you can't take on that's just silly but like I took this on because like this was to me was like I'm going to kind of make this work I'm gonna make this happen because this is my breakout piece it didn't actually kind of become my breakup piece it became it became like Oh became almost like I was hoping to return on investment so I spent twenty thousand dollars of my own money into this project to be able to hire the proper talent to be able to hire the proper resources to make it happen and that's that that was a choice made by me and maybe it was foolish I don't know but at the end of the day like I'm it's a bit the process it's about the people it's about working and having appreciation for the values and so for me it was really important to be able to invest in something that mattered a lot to me and I wanted to be able to share this and make this happen because it's it's a huge deal and like for me it's so important because that the other day you know this is the first time I was trusted with this kind of this kind of work so it's really important to be able to like why not you know like I spent my savings sometimes you have to can I give you just wrong to come back later if I knew that tutorial I'd be watching ways oh my god but honestly like that's the things like sometimes you have to have you have to like you know play poker put a massive risk on the table you know that's why it's a return on investment this was my investment piece you don't know and that's part of the thing is like it's part of helping and like that's the things like I think anybody would want to be paid 20k like Patrick Claire is just incredible and like American Gods the latest good honestly that's my that's kind of like my biggest fault in the world I'll be completely honest Ayesha I was like for me truthfully speaking yeah the bookmark at the top it's actually for the curated by Jorge all the scripts yeah somebody actually posted this was a comment that's here have I ever have a cancel a project after a really doesn't even fit yeah I've gone in those situations for sure and I think it comes down to respect its understanding like you know working with who you're working with and I guess you know honestly like sometimes you have to cut it off early just because you have respect for your time and if the clients not respecting that then you have to you have to share you have to like allow the client to be able to like kind of break free of their own kind of bonds and of you and help invest into somebody else who's going to be there for them for the project so it is important yeah I guess any other questions because I'm gonna be sitting here breaking up this illustrator fun because I can this is like the work this is like this is what it's like some like I don't know what you do is like it's not pretty you know it's like hey I got a freaking put this in like all these separate layers yeah because I get for me that's the things like that's kind of what I wanted to show is like it's not all nitty gritty pretty like I'll be honest like it is not pretty it's not and that's the things like as much as people want to sing song and dance and say how great and glorious it is sometimes it isn't and that's okay and part of that is understanding that that is okay that is part of the process that's understanding the value of your time because I got that of the day I want to make this cool and I want to make it cool for the right people and you know you guys kind of matter and I kind of also want to show you that hey I was just like socks and part of that is understanding like that's part of the process you know just getting to the meat and the potatoes of it is just going literally and working with what you have and you know that's gonna sound horrible but like that's part and parcel of working with and let's say illustrator like you know not every illustrator knows how to be able to lay our projects because they're not doctrine ated and understanding how things work for animation and that's okay that's part of the part yes I know plenty Ellis traitors that they work on one layer yeah like totally this one one layer they like yeah and that's the thing that's totally cool but that's the things like if you can understand what that looks like or understanding with that value or that the virtue and the value of that cost of how long that's going to take then we'll factor that in understand that's part of what it means to do what you do to be good if that makes any sense just what it is yeah that works too I'll I thank you for the shortcuts Brian knows what's up just cut new layer paste in place that's always what techs are secret there's a texture secret I can talk about like for the robot piece we showed some of that Matt did some of the yeah magic again if you can watch that again with Matt stuff you go to show how that works like that's a big thing definitely who's my dream client who's my dream client ah that's a really big question John my dream client probably have to say probably small mom pop shop to be honest I love working with smaller companies because there's the most open to make something cool and that's in there like when you work with big like big clients big budgets people have like one in mind one thing in mind and they're doing that I had to see that this thing's like like I think the thing is like they have so many hoops you have to jump through and say like this is our brand this is who we are this is what we're about you know at the end of the day like if you want to do something cool something that's different something that's thought-provoking something that breaks that fourth wall yeah like I think of the day like I would love love love to work with a small I am wearing a penguin shirt and that's what we noticed yeah I told the represent well Dave and I were talking without Twitter this morning but that's the things like yeah like it's understanding like clients that are small and kind of nimble want to work on diverse projects because that matters so I got them of a man that kind of matters and that's the things like when you have big clients like say coca-cola coca-cola and there was their brand that's who they are this is what they're about they've stood by this brand for a hundred years okay cool but I want to do something different and how do you cook like how do you and I like convince them yeah I think your emotional resonance I think that's but I think that also tells like when you're telling story telling that's on you to be able to have that yeah you're welcome sky scar I don't mean emotionally exactly right Brian like that's the things like there's a lot of emotional explainers like you know like there's a lot of work out there that's understanding that people have virtue value all right so textures I guess textures to such an open book so let's talk about texture shall we so if we want to talk about texture really quick let's just go through this really quick and then do you yeah I'm sure gonna answer this but like whether you finish it with the textures if that's the final step or um honestly again well that's something he's like when like for example like this piece for like Wells Fargo this was just layers just masking layers and layers and layers and layers like that's all that way like this was just a Photoshop brush with a sheep layer that's just masking you know that's all that was nothing crazy and that's the things like we knew that going into it like you know some of the stuff that you won't notice but like for example I have like parallax going on with the floor here the shadows are slowly coming towards us if you look in the background you know we have smoke clouds going on like there's a lot of nuance that's going on I think smoke and a lot of these textures the one thing that I really hate is like I'm not watching animation and I see animation that's kind of exploding textures block the textures down like I think other day like lock them down yeah so you're not like accidentally selecting man well it's not so much like locking them as far as the layer but it's like when things are moving around the screen that is like so bloody frustrating because like when it's moving around the screen it looks really cheap it looks really cheesy and the problem is like if you go to like an NTSC or if you go to if ntsc or going to pal you have to remember that like sometimes those textures aren't going to translate because you're looking at you're looking at things that are gonna flicker so at the end of the day not so much yeah so I don't know whoever posted that link for the Google Doc or Google sheet for all those shortcuts essentially is what that is yeah it's just a lot of hosts that I don't know who posted it earlier whoever has actually you can see the actual they're all tears that are all what if I can zoom in here DOX calm spreadsheets / d / I got it I'll post it Earl all right so I guess more questions about textures like depends on the style depends on yeah is that a Canadian thing Earl do you say Earl Earl your URL I use a URL but you said Earl yeah he's like I guess that's an old thing well I don't know if that was like a Canadian thing or not we are definitely known for our nerve bowels out and about and in a canoe yeah I guess a short-film would require maybe six months of focus time six months savings yeah exactly that's the things like understanding the value in the virtue don't feel bad II I love saying girl thanks Dave you got my back how much do I love to bask oh I think seven oh is this already I think he's just trying like get me going but I have the actual of the Tabasco logo tattooed on the back of my shoe oh wow so it's like it's the Tabasco logo but no text yeah so I love Tabasco that's that would be would be a lot the kind of funny thing is actually so it's late it looks like there's a basket it is the Tabasco logo but it also has a double meaning that's the crazy fun thing is it actually has keyframes so so it's actually it's a linear with a roving keyframe and so it's actually keyframes I guess I'll show this to keyframe Oh talk about commitment it's actually a keyframe on my elbow and then the bar is actually a timeline yeah so it's actually a layer four yeah so and not to mention the chair initials are a e right I know so the stars are blind I mean I'm not so I wouldn't be surprised if your book but like if you had a birthmark that was actually like the timeline er well I'll be honest so one of the things I've always wanted to be able to get a sleeve done in Oh what I wanted to do is was I was looking at just getting fonts just like all the types fonts is just saying font but over and over again yeah it's kind of doing no we're not gonna see that that's weird sorry Tom awesome that's cool one can we can see Coleman's mustard tad on the other that would be fantastic you have no clue much dry mustard I have all the time it's ridiculous what do I think about bitbucket sure I think bitbucket it's a good place to be able to store however imagine enjoying clean hmm there's actually gonna be I'm working on a new site with Zack cluster I don't know her real name I'm sorry and Rafi were gonna be putting together a web site to build a whole ton of scripts for people to be able to help the community cuz that they it's about the community it's about helping people all the time let's see here do you use tráfico plugins yeah all the time and again it comes slowly comes down to the flavor and this that I think you're trying to build so if you're trying to build I don't know like it comes down to like for example that one had 3d stroke so that's trap code and Peter is an amazing man like he's super generous and nice and kind super cool I think I think myself coming please Sarah that'd be awesome mm-hmm well that's the thing is like you know truthfully speaking that's where honestly comes down to the style they static of the time like if you look at early 2000 there's like part like particular they're just like we're looking at so much glow so much effects but here's the thing with trap codes actually like the tricks is like you might not know this but for example a pieced I worked with identity visuals again my friend Zach and Sam a big shadow to you guys you guys have been absolutely amazing congratulations Zack on the baby and you know I got the other day like it's such a huge like is such a nice community but the thing that you have to realize that everybody's connected to one another and the same exact are awesome good Konica guys so for example this piece that we worked on together I want to see if I can find it here speaking about trap code so here's the thing about for example on this piece so when Zack was first approaching me to bill to help out on this project and then like we're talking about how to be able to kind of like build this project out or try to have this idea of how this works is the big part of it is compositing so how do you make this piece more I guess warm how do they get rich how you give a texture how do you give it life I guess with rasterized and the thing is like here what we're doing is like so these small clouds that I animate these like lens flares these are just using optical flares and then also on top of that stacked is actually using trapcode shine do you want to give that an extra glow on top of everything to give that like harmonized glow and warmth to the layers and this is this is just like these this truck is actually just element 3d and that's a thing it then also on top of that stacked is using optical flares like camera is using like the camera technology and map I guess and so that's things like these are all things is like understanding like how they kind of work in together so like a big part of those optical flares using optical flares built-in camera grunge using like all these aesthetics and these these tools help tell the story and how they kind of translate into the story we do with the trick Meister that's true I am a Meister low-key someone I know I like that because yeah I mean looking looking at the end some of these animations I was I was looking for some crazy trap code effects but I think they see this as things like you know tropical particular to be able to give that depth like the thing is like you see optical flares to tons of copies here and the animations a particular for the DES to Bri like you're looking at all these things that help tell the story and again you building and do want to building environment you know that's that's all it is and it's tricking its kind of using it to your advantage so like this that's what this does that's right it's all about the light boom sorry oh yeah it's really cool but like it's understanding like what that looks like what is that world that you're trying to unbutton like trying to exist in and live in because like a big part of it is understanding the virtue and the value of that like that's again element 3d like little things like that what do you use what do you I guess use as far as color grading post-effects honestly it depends on again what's the project you're trying to produce for the most part when I'm doing for color grading honestly if I'm going to stay in after facts I'll use color rista like there's no there's no beating out like color we said it's just a beast don't use curves yeah I can honestly it comes down to like using the best tool for the job that's the things like it's completely up to you and how you're gonna be able to do things if I'm gonna color great say like a live-action piece there's no question I'm using DaVinci Resolve like it completely comes down to you know using the best tool for the job you know be smart don't try to like put it I guess a round peg in a square hole yeah exactly and it's nice that I mean honestly like after effects just the amount of plugins in different ways you can go whether it's like 3d you were actually using actual three like say you know cinema 4d in it like there's you know totally a saddle animation you know saying and you know animate it's just amazing that's the thing I was drinking you know so it's just a you know so many different ways you can go oh that's and that's the things like it is very you know it's very flexible it's very you know you want do you use storyboarding or plan to present your projects but if you want to see do do to do tim warns our Starbucks ooh he's down big questions uh actually not and I make my own coffee I roast my own beans it's very hipster of you know right thank you let's yeah no I I used to roast beans but now I kind of just live on the nespresso train and you know why George Clooney I was totally on the money for that one and that's how you made it textures for the robot project especially locked down textures and layers there just parenting well you know what Kyle I will camp on your front lawn and teach you everything what is the best craft brewery Kingston whoo okay I probably say stones to the ales but I find they're pretty I guess really kind of citrusy so if that's your thing cool do you listen to music while working actually so funny snoring Auk all the way sorry like hands down I missed you case so much yeah it's really cool for me thanks for us what was the question I forget the question yeah I do I do drink a lot of coffee McDonald's that's true let us know also I mean we're kind of running out of time here but even you know kind of even what what you guys want to see cuz luckily we have you for a couple days yeah if you want to dive deeper into anything I mean we're we're we're gathering lots of feedback from you guys which is awesome Daniel is a awesome town amazing talent like he like I don't know how he does what he does like he is like you know I was talking with Crispo bonus years ago about Daniel is talking about like he is a Renaissance man he just does so much cool stuff that's it was do I listen to music that's totally what it was so originally when I was like animating traditionally one of my supervisors Patrick proved just amazing animator like the gods I think he is like a god-given gift to the world he used to scream at me for listen to music or listen to anything while I was trying to animate and one of the things he used to say to me he used to always say to me was animation is concentration and the thing is like you have to be able to exist in that world that realm that environment and create tell the story well in like you can have music that actually goes with the story or trust me when you have like voiceover in town that you're listening to you know that's the things you're animating to these intonation Julis that you're animating to these like annotations and oh my god trust me you listen to it probably over 500 times trust me you'll do a ton of EO it's mind-numbing at some point so you guys like shape shape layer magic or frame-by-frame using shape layers totally it's all about full shape layers and like frame by Framing but again like be smart about it like use rigs like for example like beam I used to use beam for fingers so I could animate things it was fantastic oh yeah totally Evan you're a hundred percent transitioning from enemy to only to another one that's a good point Sarah brings up a good point because if you are listening to voiceover or even a music video you you might like the song when you start but by the end of it doesn't matter how good it is I'm sure you're like trust me like my 2015 demo reel I listen to that non-stop about three months and I got that end of it I could like literally sing word-for-word bowel for bowel and I just like I can't I'm just gonna losing my mind but yeah so listen anything not at all yeah I mean the penguin piece that was these guys it's um seems like people are into this frame-by-frame stuff seems yeah people love frame-by-frame that's enough way to play this or I'd say this probably like the latest thing that people are into I definitely think that's latest and enemy to CC yeah it's really easy uh export PNG and actually what was that sorry there's an export what yeah I use export to p.m. geez like I usually double my size my comp so if instead of like 1980 like 1920 by 1080 TV I double my resolution so when you export you have the option 72 or you whatever dpi you want I usually double that 150 dpi because that way I can almost double the resolution so that way if I want to do any kind of like subtle camera movements or anything like that it's not gonna break down so it does look master it doesn't look nasty it's very clean you can now at least an Adobe animate increase the size of your stage and and scale up everything which is hundred percent exactly so could you you could you could also just you know you know resize everything really large and output a video uh you could export a video but at the end of the day like honestly like you're looking at depends on what kind of information you need for me it was the big thing wasn't having PGs with alpha and understanding like that's important like for example John brings up note Swift's yeah absolutely no Swift's Swift's on quite honestly like it breaks you'll necessarily you'll get like a missing frame or there and especially when you're on a project projects turn into you need fast development of time so at the end of the day it just takes a lot of time yeah that's the series just need a dropping left right center a couple minutes we have I see Rachel walked in Rachel and wind's coming up youtuber fashionista probably the best-dressed person in the room by the way of course so she's gonna be Bobby yeah definitely the best-dressed we vote with tomorrow we need to step up our game guys like really so should I dress up and there's and there's 45 people in the room just kidding Oh still the best trip yeah it's not about high it's not about money you got to get this this idea of money money is just like a concept that we kind of built for ourselves something about money not think about like collaboratively working with people just do like you live in live in a like a remote you know chill place let's face it like that's how you get things done I've heard this said before like you want to get something done and really make things happen living aboard let me live in a chill like low-key play you will get so much done you know well you know it's kind of nice yeah peas you with Transparency p.m. geez you have to be careful though peonies are massively like really hard yeah so and I took some notes down as far as like you know things you guys are interested in and seeing the next couple days as well so this'll be good we do have an illustrator file so you're gonna see get to see the down-and-dirty of it all so we noticed you fantastic so this is cool guys don't forget if you're on Adobe live.com there's a contest just click that contest button down below you can create a project submit it and win you know Creative Cloud thousand buck gift card as well as some mentoring which is super cool so and there's even a template we didn't really get into the template that's in the interface but we'll talk about that over the next couple days cuz you can you know there's a lot of integration between After Effects and Premiere Pro so good stuff use the use the pipe Andrew yeah I know well it's the things I got at my waist I my pipe so but no you smell oh your pipe on your like I've seen the picture yes I used to I have my grandfather's my great-grandfather's smoking pipe so it's like always reminds me of my grandfather's so it was like that triggers on memory for me I like that idea of just seeing you away with a pipe in your mouth that's the biggest thing is I got honestly it kind of like brings back like good memory so it makes me having a good fun well I thoroughly enjoyed just seeing you know obviously all your different projects and picking him Bart some of those individual things even picking apart that cat was super fascinating with beam I think that resonated with people yeah like all these little little tricks that you learn about an immense amount of plugins that we talked about too which is super cool and there's some things like if you guys ever need anything just let me know you're the man closing words we're mining down questions well we'll be back guys we will be back we're winding down right now good thing we have you tomorrow Andrew Murray thank you so much and stick around Rachel and win with Jason Levine is so stick around guys thanks so much for watching [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] you

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Published: Tue Aug 22 2017