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[Music] that's the killer [Music] uh [Music] what a good beat helping us with it should be this is your boy n.o.r.e what up it's dj efn and this is drink chest [ __ ] y'all cast make some noise and when we talking about legends we're talking about legend legends you talk about i believe came out since 96 been out here monkey foot in the game doing what you got to do got hits pawn hits dominated the music career then went on uh you know did tours all that while being a mother you know uh holding down the mothership then also went and dominated reality tv as well you understand what i'm saying she came a little late so we're going to get we go get straight into it no i came on top no you're supposed to be at 12 o'clock girl don't worry about it oh don't worry about it you don't know what so let me ask you right this big controversy that's going on right now with trick daddy saying that beyonce can't hang right yeah i gotta start there because you being a singer's singer you like like i could tell you went to church like you know it's it's throughout that hall that what do you what do you hear when you what do you think of when you hear people say that about the queen beyonce it's the audacity for me okay like if you don't sing you don't have no room to tell who can't sing if you don't like something then you could give your opinion straight in okay nobody asked no apparent because i had this honestly i had this conversation a week ago with trina i was like what you think about people automatically putting you in that because that's your people she was like no slander for the queen would be accepted you feel me it's just certain things beyonce is our queen so us as singers us as artists we have seen her push through since she was what fourteen fifteen rocking heels on the runway on the with the stilettos dancing from group to now being a mom to being a solo artist or flying in there nobody does that in music so you are going to respect that if you don't like the way she's saying don't listen right but but i believe what he was trying to say is like because betty wright is like like you know um that's like he's the vocalist rest in peace so is he is he when he thinks that is he comparing betty right to beyonce is that's what he's doing because how could he come up with that i had i had so with with like how he tried to he never he never backed down he stood firm in his opinion but he was trying to say like whitney houston and uh he named other names anita baker gladys knight beyonce is not that type of artist like she can go there because she's done the movie like uh ella fitzgerald uh where did she do ella was it um or when she sings like she can give you that but she's an all-around entertainer we've never seen anita go up in the air and sing upside down we've never seen anita do the booty hop we've never seen whitney whitney can say she came straight from church and that's what she was but from a singer's perspective if you honestly have ever been in any of their presence you can see they have different styles like me and her don't even sound alike so there's a lot of people who could do what you do but you can't do it they do and vice versa so with that being said since he doesn't sing i understand his opinion but let's just be real and let's be honest this generation if i ask my kids right now my oldest is 18 my youngest is five have you ever heard of need a birthday who that right you feel me they know who beyonce is they're not going to know who a betty wright is so it behooves us to be like okay this is y'all betty right well this is my betty right so honestly yeah it's the generation this generation don't be caring so let me ask you guys don't become you what does it take to be a real true singer from your perspective there's gifts and there's talent okay and then there's people who just get by because like let's just be real there's a lot of people in my opinion i mean like they can't say but i won't say it anymore i used to say it out loud but i realized like auto-tune auto-tune honestly save the music industry because there's a lot of people who can't even rap on beat right because people be you ever see people they'll sing there they'll rap their song and then when they get live you like why is you yelling right you feel me oh put your hands up i can't it is what it is but auto tune honestly saved the music industry the sound has changed since i came out i started touring in 93 91 wow i was still in high school so my uncle took me on tour so i that's where i got to learn sound and tone pitch control all that stuff because i'll be thinking i could sing and he'll call me he'd be like what's that diaphragm doing because don't get out there just hollering that's technical but yeah so the technical part of singing there's only a couple of people who get it and it's not even your throat or your diaphragm it's what you hear and you have to think about what you're going to do before that sound even comes about your out your mouth and auto-tune was before t-pain because it was being used in studios people was using vocoders and stuff which was a formal auto tune because you plug it up to a keyboard and a microphone and it actually balances out you know the the note that's supposed to be correct because if you turn it off it don't match and the guy who invented autotune is on there and he said it was because he was recording his boss's wife and uh uh his boy's wife knew she couldn't sing and said i need i swear to god it's honestly no it's not he said i can't sing but i want to look like i can and then he made autotune for uh right like people automatically think auto-tune auto makes you sound good it doesn't right you have to have somebody that's a skill engineer know how to balance it up because there's melodyne there's vocal aligned there's so many things that people just automatic oh they use it and i'm like i use auto-tune because there's sometimes i'll be like okay i have a a strong vibrato okay so i wouldn't know what that word mean when to give you a suggestion this is what you should use but the the blessing about what i have is that i don't need it but i use it because i realize of the sound but whatever they correct it to i can still do it with my voice that's a gift it's a tool in the in the toolkit basically yeah if you're just like if you have a saxophone if you're all like what it's gonna do it's gonna be squeaking but even when you use the auto tool you never used it live because that's like a whole different skill set yeah i always use like reverb or a little delay live because it's something those plug-ins or those things were created so you can still have that feel because if i'm singing in this room the acoustics on it is gonna make you feel something but if i'm singing in in the dynamic or we're singing in a dome the sound goes up it's not gonna sound the same as in here so those things were created by people by master people sitting in front of computer all day saying okay this is the sound i want to i want to captivate that same sound as if we're still here so have you ever heard there's a difference between a dry mic a rapper's mic and a singer's mic i always tell people i do a lot of shows with rappers to this day right and i'm like don't make my mic sound like a rapper mic they don't use reverb they don't use auto tune they don't use delay or don't go to the sound check they don't go to sound check they be yelling just make some noise oh my god so um okay let's take it from the beginning right when we google you would say he was born in long island yeah but then you moved to baltimore no i was born and raised in long island between long island and south side jamaica queens wow so my dad joined the military after that we moved to texas atlanta north carolina because he's in the military army okay okay so i'm an army brat so from that like i literally been on tour since i was 13. wow so yeah it's been up so that's why when i got into the music industry it really wasn't as much change i'm used to moving around right so i've been everywhere not like i finally get a final stop was in uh uh fort meade maryland but it's right outside of baltimore so i was just like yeah i'm gonna just rep baltimore and that's where i've been the longest so new york was like where i was born and raised and that's where i honestly got i was saying my grit and my so that's where you just start yeah then i moved back to new york okay after that and from there i had toured i moved back to new york to go to hair school i was going to long island beauty school wow but um i had got the call right before i got the call from missy i was on tour with gangstar when it was uh when they did jasmine tests she just flopped but she dropped two things so i was told like after like from the gang star tour i took over india what you were doing in gangstar tour i was singing and dear deafening voice but i want to trust you baby i was young my dad decided to slip down there okay yeah he was outside okay so i tore that like i sang his eyes on the sparrow and keeps rest in peace to him his living room wow and he was like you want to go until i was like yeah yeah you're not girl yeah she's not good because he was guru when it was him in premiere but when we did jasmine test he was mr elam or keith and jasmine's amazing that was my security yeah so to this day we still hit each other i'll be like yo that's crazy you always said what you was gonna do so i went overseas with them i was hyped up had a passport imagine me coming straight out of high school and hair school so when i was 17 18 right shoot it's about 17. so then after that um i started doing hair braid hair in queens and i was at uh valley street mall one day well i was at the mall okay okay um yeah i got i had a beeper and that's what missy had they had beeped me from a lecture was like missy want you to call her now major i'm still ratcheting okay but i who what version of missy is this this is this is i can feel the rain yeah cause i believe we did it like 98.99 then like the floodgates open but like what did she hear of you that she's reaching out some songs that i had referenced for artists because i was getting placements with elections you're writing for people yeah right so they had like michael speaks adina howard it was like when they had like that they that's when you could they say the who's looking list so i was submitting songs but i was like none of these [ __ ] is getting played but then i later found out this is what one of the producers told me they was just like you have to dumb down your singing because you're singing too much it's intimidating it's intimidating to artists so i was only getting placements at that time on like gerald levert and like those type of artists okay so i'm a young girl working with youtube that's your vocal tone you said exactly you're doing more than a reference you was you was doing the same yeah but i was just like yeah because i'm like come with ain't no sense of me just singing it regularly and then you beat me on and then yeah because at the end of the day if i do the record it might be a chance i might have to keep it because i'm still an artist but i wasn't signed but i was just like i knew what i was doing have you ever did a record for somebody and then they did it and you was like you wish you took it back uh i honestly the time for shots don't get away from the missing conversation i i recently did a wreck i had to go back and do my part over because i was like my son told me yo payne got out on you on this record you gotta go do your part over oh wow so yeah you're not gonna like you're not gonna know what i'm talking about if you gave a record to an artist and like you know wrote for them or a reference for them and they didn't do it do it to it what you wanted them to do no i was always the person that hey uh we gave someone i reckon we want you to sing they part over wow that's how i got a i cried like it's a it's a whole yummy wow it's some history it was never anything i did that like because other than that i wouldn't give it away like i'm real strategic and particular about songs that like you have to be those are your babies that's that's your that's your job so you can't just give anybody anything it don't work like that there are some songs i'll be like uh that i had to vocal produce with people and i'm just like you know i'm gonna just go ahead and in there and sing it for them so that's happened you watched the show no i saw like a little bit of it my mom um watches it so i don't really watch tv that much damn because i know you don't be you don't stay home don't be at home she's busy it's not that it's just like it's just so much going on like i'm back on my glow [ __ ] like i'm trying to win so uh unless they call me to be on it i really don't really that's a great show no i know i saw it it was is something that a question i asked you like did you ever um have a record and give it because you know what we always say we always say that's my baby like it's artists we'll always say that's my baby but every now and then we'll give away a record and be like damn that's my so in the shot this lady gave away her baby but then the last episode she wants her baby back that's why i asked answered that question okay moving on no go back to mississippi let's go to the movie that's what i'm saying here's the records what records are sharing do you know it was some references i did and she told merlin bob to tell me to call her and so when i when i was finished getting my nails i remember looking at my beep and it was a two one two number and i knew two one two yeah i mean green acres more i was just like that's that's a cheap money that's the money yeah so i was like hello rick brown was like merlin won't speak to you merlin gets on the phone he was like missy want you to call i'm like get the [ __ ] out of here like i'm in green eggs small getting my nails in there why would missy ellie want me to call her he was like you have something that you can write the number down we ain't have cell phones we could just say well text it to me so i had to find a pencil and i wrote it down at the pay phone and so i called her from her pay phone and she was like hello hold up i think she might have been in a lambo or something and she was like let me turn this music down she was like hey yo you like do you want to go to like what exactly do you want to do i'm like uh first of all is this really missing right right and then after that she was like can you come to the city today i went to the city and the rest was history wow like literally i was always i just always just know to be on go and that was missy at electra she was at a lecture at this time and that's where you eventually got assigned to yes okay yep so how does that happen all right you're missing going to studio record records so what is this okay first i go in there and i sing a whitney houston i think i sang saving all my love for you oh oh so you waited wait a minute you auditioned him for miss you always know what it is is because sometimes you can hear somebody on the record and be like let me see how they sound like see that's how the singers be the others hangers yeah that'd be me yeah yeah so she was just like yo i'm about to go on tour you trying to go and i was like yeah and i quit beauty school literally right on the spot right i was like [ __ ] them i ain't going back i told him i was gonna be famous anyway make sure we finish the messy thing okay but we also we've interviewed people for five six almost six years i always study people's drinks so you're a riesling person yeah cause uh hard liquor just don't and she they requested yeah they requested bans really yeah okay but let me stick on the race link right now because y'all ready for a shot y'all like prosecco oh no no i can't stay up in a second like nah cause i just like if i'm if i'm gonna drink something hard i gotta go all the way it ain't no in between like the other week i drank a whole thing a dog julie i was hyped up i hadn't been outside in the year ain't no interview i don't even remember like i was whole and i didn't even remember going through the tsa period right like i was like how did we get back we have this is a time that we praise our artists so we have to give you a shot what shot would you like to have of i'm about to put some wreaths in getting it off no no reason come on you got to get it you got to get a super woman shot some the summer watermelon listen that's what i'm talking about so i got listen i'm not gonna lie this and i need a bottle of water because this is um a watermelon okay that's watermelon yeah if you've never had it no i've never had that okay yeah there you go there you go look at that look at that look at that we are set up this is ladies first goddamn we got the superwoman in a goddamn building thank you thank you all right like floyd said did they pay come on hello hmm alcohol tastes like alcohol yeah me neither i don't like that because that makes me feel like uh i might have to go too what was your drink of choice what would you drink a choice before recently casa amigos i'm not let me just get a little uh right there no you got to go hard and but that cos amigos will put you on your ass amigos right okay do you actually go on tour from there yeah we went overseas the whole united states tour and um we did hot boys in that interim and then boys yeah she was like yo this is about to be out of here and i believed her she believed in me and the rest is literally history then after that like now when you was on a lecture that's sylvia roma lecture yes okay syria wrong merlin bob okay and how was that because um at that this i've never got to i know sylvia rome obviously but i've never got to work with that sense of woman power you know what i mean like uh even when i got to work with mona mona wasn't damona that she is now gotcha i worked hard me too but um yeah that's right i know yeah but um so how was that because i i don't think i've ever worked with a black woman ceo yeah and especially what's now that's going on right right now like how we all we're all proud to be like how was it um you know working with that black girl magic it would okay so me coming from not knowing the industry to being like literally placed in the the upper executive hand like oh sylvia wants to meet with you and then i go to her office and i'm thinking i gotta sit like this she'll be like yo your [ __ ] is fire and i'm dabbing i'm like yo okay i get it like you know i was thinking that the executives have to act all like right stuck up and sick it was it really was because my thoughts of the industry and when i actually got into it i was just like wow you didn't make you feel more secure because you had a woman because she's a real black woman right like she don't play like i realize now what i should have realized then like she really had my back because i was running around doing so to everybody she was like yo like what are you doing is ain't your friend you know i gotta actually like you really had your back so at one point you thought she didn't i thought she didn't okay because people would get in my ear and say stuff like this yeah oh she should be spending money why you only put why they only putting out this song when are they going to believe in you if they spent this on this oh because you're not light skinned it was all of that and i'm just like yo when you start hearing that and you don't automatically i'm like dad she keeps i keep on getting unlimited car services and she put 600 000 in my account so i'm balling right now i was literally what 21 years old and she sent the bag wow for real you're wrong one thing about sylvia she has no pr like she's the one like everybody else if you get signed through somebody else you have to wait for the clearances cbc send it over berpadel's like they sent it over burpa just that count between uh sylvia and slim they're the only ones that i know can literally make a phone call and the bag is released cash money snow yeah about to say you got a good because a lot of people be having bad stories for cash money so you have good cash money stories yeah paid on time yes and got paid and shot like bad videos and got paid it's it's like i can understand where things go but you have to know who to you have to know how to handle your business you know what i'm saying like i was signed to them but it was merlin bob did a joint venture with uh them it was called roundtable at that time wow i don't remember this but yeah it was because they were doing like side they had the cash money classes with tina marie russ and peace taha and then they had roundtable they had other deals that was going on so the the blessing and i think the reason why i don't really have any war stories is because they respected me as an artist number one number two is it was literally right around when katrina happened so the label shut down anyway so it was almost like i didn't even have to do anything but shoot videos and then they just let that company dissolve so i was like i didn't have to go through any foolishness but i got to work and do shows and stuff with wayne so i got the benefits worked with manny fresh got to work with baby so the checks was like it was running up so i'm not mad at it and to this day like still the respect is there right that's dope yeah now when i googled you this is something that that that probably got a little crazy for me right not crazy not crazy but it was like when i when i went as soon as i got deeper they put all your husbands right they put your husbands out there what husbands yeah the way you said that but they actually put like the dates and the time and i've been wondering who where did they get information who is the wikipedian google god wizard of oz that knows all this because there'll be some [ __ ] and i've been like what the [ __ ] i ain't even remember that but it's somebody that somebody remember big brother or maybe it's the goddamn government the fans you know the fans is watching what the [ __ ] that's crazy that's how did you feel when you seen that i was just like it don't exist to me anymore anything pre pandemic don't exist in me anymore i handled my business i realized that was a time i can admit and i take full accountability of i didn't know how to separate the artist from the he from the human right so the person from the from the persona wow so meaning yourself yes so little mo there's little more and there's cynthia there's nothing yeah it's and i there was a time where i think that they messed together now i should have never allowed that to happen um i didn't just watch that's honestly mary j blige on my friend's shoulder breakfast club mary j blige said for years she didn't know what her worth yeah she did she didn't feel worth it so how could has it ever been a time where you felt like that like like hell yeah really so you could be on a cloud you could be getting all this money all these shows coming in everything is running up but then you sit back and you just like [ __ ] really be just trying to give me anything and something like that recently happened i think those are tests because then it's just like it comes to say let me see if we can still get you and i'll be like nah i used to say no i literally used to pop up to everything and oh yo so-and-so having a part i'm outside yo so-and-so what you singing this all right i'ma send the vocals but then i realized wait i sent the vocals back that same day why is taking them so long yeah we going a different direction i'll be like man [ __ ] you in your direction but then i realized i was literally taking things personal and my team literally broke down to me and i was just like yo this is business stop taking it so personal so once i separated those two that's what i know is up from here on out okay all right well we're gonna jump in the quick time with slime we're gonna do it we're gonna do it immediately what's that all right i'm just clapping this [ __ ] by the way this is good all right all right so this is quick time with slime it's called uh obviously explore quick time but all it is is we're going to give you a multiple choice it's just two you just pick one or the other now if you're going to pick both lee get a shot ready already you want to pick both it's cool it's cool you got to take a shot and we just figured out recently if you say neither too we got to take a shot all right but the good thing is yeah yeah it's a shot yeah no one takes a shot if you pick one but if you pick both because you sincerely mean both then you got to take a shot but but the good thing about it is we're going to take a shower we're not going to leave you guys yeah so i'm going to be doing it i feel like number two is going to be the wine oh my god all right you're ready see it's i'm telling y'all what you ain't got no drink champagne oh [ __ ] we got it we got to invest in that we got to invest in that we ain't gonna miss you need to blow your face if you want like far as he's gonna pick us no no no no whatever in your mind remember if you don't if you want to be politically correct you can take a shot now it's okay okay what's more important to you in your mind as far as business jay okay all right cool no shot okay like jade all right it's the freaking gene all right jaw or 50. as far as what 50. okay oh [ __ ] i wasn't ready for that one all right fab or jada kiss bad okay what what is that called i know melody what is it mellow melody melody yeah or what that's just an order it's the same thing it just depends on the engineer honest melody missy or trina take a shot no i would say missy cause katrina would say missy too okay because missy like helps a lot of us she literally so journal truth to this [ __ ] okay that's fire yeah um beyonce alicia keys beyonce okay uh 90 i mean 90's hip-hop times 2 000 hip-hop wait what's the 2000 hip-hop because honestly the cutoff was about 2003 when it started getting shaky that's true okay because if we talk about mc light i'm i'm a wrong hand so maybe say 85 95 95 to 2005. then i'll say because i didn't listen to the 80s that hip-hop hit with inhibit that really wasn't my my twist so i would say like with mc light d-nights and like when it's all right cool you you got these two you got to take a shot for i'll be up from new york or baltimore automotive oh i love new york baltimore okay you got to take a shot for this one you got it michael jackson or prince like see you have to be more specific but i would say michael you wouldn't yeah yeah because michael used to like he wanted glitter stuff he always did stuff to stand out like prince got some whis won his ass out to stand out he didn't be clear but they they both got to the point where they were telling us what was going down and then soon after they were telling us what the real was there they were like they were more conscious than the brothers with the bees and you think about it what are you thinking about the ones that be yelling the ones that like to be super woke yeah they need to go to sleep hello yeah yeah i know they were they were smarter michael was telling us earlier and he was buying up everybody's catalogs yeah and they was like oh you can't do this he was like oh yeah i'm gonna buy your whole life he bought the beatles freaking kettle and the elephant man's bowls how did he even know that it was for damn sale wait how did you even buy that like yeah and it wasn't no google like what did you just say elephant man balls or balls what is that bones i don't know like the old school balls what was it worth i'm sure he had more than that yeah all kinds of crazy like who was the one that came to him was like michael so we know you did thrilla and we're just going over the royalties for that but they have the elephant man bones to sell you thinking about who introduces that conversation right here he is okay i sure chris brown chris only because i where ushered through that money and usher said that about the auto-tune and then used it like oh so after got to be over there so after he told t paying that no the monsters right here after he told t-pain that he ruined music i should use the auto-tune for real this is fast no one think about twitter and social media they'll pull the receipts wow and so they was like wait a minute oh should this you that's when they do that this year and oh my god when he did let me let me love you down that's all yeah but you never know what the engine is using on your vocals anyway the only people that's honestly flawless this is rare but when you missed that one you know though yeah that record that was definitely gonna let it go he knew what it was yeah right okay radio or podcast podcast wow yeah because ready is so political and they be capping right i think radio be used to hire me just so they can fire me to say that they alright because i really ain't used to be doing nothing wait wait wait wait we're gonna get into that we're gonna get into that okay um ferraro kanye oh my god now give me a shot oh my god let me drink some water um that's summer watermelon they're gonna have to send me a pack that's y'all go for it you're gonna hear it right now okay okay hold on all right dmx or tupac had an impact because i knew him in real life so he was definitely a vibe and you could his presence is still felt and even though i worked with poc but never met him in real life post-humorous i got to watch uh it was just like i literally started getting tattoos because i loved tupac wow so you met axe obviously you see you had really yeah worked with him we did shows again saying worked apart just never met him yeah i never worked here i did uh he did yeah he has like yo if you ever get the chance to go to his house and like he has videos and footage before all that was like like really the wave right and i used to watch videos like he would have picked like videos of nato everyone out there golfing like [ __ ] like he was like filming people before it was cool and he has documentary worthy footage of stuff and and you just sit there and watch he's like dad like what made you think it is he's a freaking genius wow let's pick him up yeah respect or loyalty respect okay i respect that uh cardi b or nicki minaj nikki is that personal to that no nothing personal nothing at all but like if you did like that's almost like saying because nikki plays the trail she's she's a legend she's been out like when you've given that how many like she's been in the game right yeah and she's she's been through things and we got to see it and she she set a tone she set a standard a spitter she go yeah she all go so i get it it's it's honestly totally different uh artistic you've met both artists nikki and cardi yeah okay yes who's nicer to you everybody's real cool with me anyway nobody ever really like i met cardi when she was uh doing still doing love of hip-hop so i was doing radio today and she was like were you still ready at the time baltimore i mean not baltimore because we was uh baltimore it was between we did baltimore and i did dc wow so at that time i think i was at [ __ ] okay yeah all right um major independent indy but that's all because i was major before so now what i would say go major learn the game then go indy i could get it with that so i don't have to take no shot no [Laughter] oh god jesus mc light take the time like the reason being because when i was in high school i used to think i was like so bad okay so once i met i was like yo i literally told her i wanted to be you so bad and the love what's your favorite mc light song when you say you love me it doesn't matter it's just that's when we have to write out the words you couldn't google it yeah so yeah like mc light okay that's honestly one of my biggest like this one i don't know this is up in the air all right kim or foxy [Laughter] honestly hold your shot okay oh i'm gonna take it anyway [ __ ] it yeah because i i i'm a person i go by my own opinion that's it and i would i would honestly i'm gonna take my shot because i'm gonna say both why because had it not been for them right there would not be a lot of females that are doing what they like when kim did the crouching pose and people oh my god what are you talking about her album was she yeah she broke down barriers all right that was that was uh like that was a no-no back then right like oh my god you're trying to do what she broke down barriers when she had her boob out at the mtv awards misa styled oh my god this is causing controversy it's always controversial when a black woman does it but it's so chic and cool and acceptable when other races do it so she broke down racial barriers that we wasn't doing foxy was spitting like a [ __ ] when she came out girls wasn't spitting like that right like i go back and listen to her oh ryan she was going toe-to-toe dude right so i respect that right she was in high school goddamn make some noise for that i got dead son so you got to respect it um now tell us something right us be a minute in the game right uh-huh i had uh tyler quality stand here i'll sit in the same chair that you're sitting in natalie said to me one time he said sometimes we're male privileged and i had never heard of that he said male privilege and he said milk well basically with male privileges we don't understand sometimes what the sisters go through we don't understand what women go through in hip-hop in the music business and entertainment period so can you share some light on people like let's just say we're just coming under a rock we don't know nothing what are some of the things that you're going to have to face as a female in this entertainment first of all if i would have came here and i had no makeup on oh this is just anything if i would have came here my nails wasn't done or at least just like oh this [ __ ] just wore anything really like so it's it's a standard and honestly i just think that thea and i literally wore anything today literally i literally wore it i literally did that so i'm sorry holy [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all but really we're women we are as a and as a black woman so you mean to tell me you judged all day like you can't go to the pharmacy i can't go to dwayne weed without well thank god for the mass mandate oh because if we have to wear masks they would expect you to wear a full beat and be slain and snatched the whole pandemic right like in the airport how they made the whole bonnet controvers [ __ ] wear durags all the time it's not about a female durang the [ __ ] you mean sometimes i run over my butt and i'll be like oh my god i forgot but i don't want my edges to be unlaid like literally before i pulled up i took my scarf because i'm like if i go in there with this on if somebody sneak a picture think about this [ __ ] just anything so people just say whatever they want about females males have the privilege they don't have to go to sound check like well i think that's rapid spirit you know i'm pretty sure r b dudes do sound [ __ ] men are allowed to like now it's a standard where you know a lot of people they want to walk around bust down from the wrist to the to the to the ripped up like now everybody want to look aesthetically you know correct for women if you just had a baby they expect you to lose that baby fast yeah because they assert people just like damn actually have a baby and she don't even look like it let you come out and have a baby and a year later your body is still holding on to that weight or that stress and that postpartum and you have a breakdown oh this [ __ ] crazy everything will be held against you as a female in this industry and i can attest to that because i've dealt with it have social media ever got on your your nerves where it's like you didn't want to you didn't want to is there any like a rumor that was spread through social media that wasn't true that got to you i used to i used to realize that i would react to everything i think it's my napoleon context one thing i do is i accept all and i think you know you gotta vote because i'm 411. i know i do my therapist like is i always know that my personality has to be big so when i enter the room i'm just like my whole ways i'm gonna get out this [ __ ] and i have like a normal you ain't gonna lose [Applause] but there's places i go i'm like like what like what is giving so i don't know what i'm gonna have to do with that place you're hanging out mo come on this is real like people trying to get you there just so they could clown or they'll pay you to come somewhere just to be on some [ __ ] right or they'll pay and they're just well yeah we're going to keep on pushing it back like nah the [ __ ] i have an ocd complex as well it's like if i'm late i literally have a mental breakdown they're like calm the [ __ ] down like stop acting like that but i realized i've learned how to overcome some of my insecurities what they call them but i just like no it's just certain things that i've dealt with all my life so it's just a sign scorpio scorpio what month is that november oh yeah people think that we're weird we're just misunderstood man you calm down all right you scorpio we don't like guys come on guys no but i just feel that everybody wants to be a scorpio because we think for people so i've never got into anything or seen anything on the internet there were things that i've seen that i'm just like i don't even go with that person no more deal with them so it'd be old stuff and i'd be or people like yeah well what about that time i'm like [ __ ] that was two years ago you still thinking about that [ __ ] i had a whole nother i have a whole nother life now like and i know that people love to live in the past but they don't want i don't live there no more so if you're still there then you know right i'm not there anymore so i used to react to everything people would say something i'd be like [ __ ] we'll pull up cinderelly we hunting you damn and that's weird because wait that's you saying that to people yeah oh yo yeah you got to stop that you why not i used to wallow yeah i was walling out but honestly that's when i was getting high so you mean so so you're telling me this would be people on twitter i'm assuming twitter's like the most evilest slash greatest place on earth yeah because like you can use it for a great time on there it was bad this one girl said something and i just because i come from jokes okay like dozens or something yeah and then the whole school jumped me and i was just like yeah but look at this [ __ ] that go to your school i just kept on pulling that one thing i've learned it's like when you getting it i'm around all comedians a lot from cat when you like just to certain people so it's like that's all we do is joke but i realize that people can't take a joke and those people they don't let me just tell you you're also patty i am yeah because i'm a petty president and you described you described a lot but i've learned a joke so i'm thinking that oh if they follow me they know what i'm giving they know what bob i'm on so when i realized people was getting offended like why would you say that and i was just like damn like those schoolkids kids they was in college i'll never mess with nobody kids because i don't play with people kids i don't even play with my own like it's just certain levels you know what i'm saying but if you're on the internet and you come for me and you're a kid i'm like put your mother on the phone because if my child did that i'd be like don't you disrespect no i'll play that i don't like that that's why i draw the line but you never know who's who behind that yeah you don't know but you could pretty much tell when they try to say well thank you all that [ __ ] corny you're a kid you feel me but i had to get out of that because that's like a defense mechanism which i realized was a part of my complex because i always felt that i had to defend myself so i realized stop you know reacting to everything ignore why do you care you feel me that's also generational because if you're pre-social media you're going to act like it's in the studio yeah because like we literally me and missy we were sitting in the studio we used to joke like all day that was like soon as we get there we'll work in between but it was just like i know this [ __ ] ain't got no no goddamn suit and it was just like just keep going and going we would joke for hours but be getting hit records done so that's what i was used to so when i thought i was sharing my personality i realized people were taking it personal and that's where you know you you got to learn how to draw the line and realize everybody's your friend right and everybody everything ain't funny yeah so yeah make some noise for that guy now let me ask you these guys was hot boys came because that boy dropped before putting on me yes it was like literally right it was like a domino effect okay once we did hot boys then put it over there everything came out okay so how does how do you get this call for putting on me is it seven who call you is it ja rules call you no was earth it was irv okay so describe the score and where i was in was i in baltimore what's more north carolina i was somewhere and um i got the call was just like listen his apple's already done so i had already did i cry you did i cry first yes the album was done the apple even though i put it on me came out first yeah put it on me was already on the album okay but the word in the the way that i got it was like um after they did i think the song i think it was every little thing that we did i think it was that one um the big records and i think dmx was coming out it was like def jam used to be a machine but if you ain't sell a certain amount they will drop or show your ass right because here's how i kind of kind of thought of it and um do you tell me every little thing that you do was out before pretty um yeah okay i didn't remember that yeah all right all right continue that all right so that that was the single that was uh running around him and christina million but i guess that's what it was it was um it was like dying down and so erv was just like yo i need you for this record the record is done but you know i need you to come up with that right track studio dude is the engineer i said everybody get out daryl's the engineer young girl you know that you know what it is young girl little girl yeah i went in there and i literally didn't write anything down i started i was taking me from the top and i'm gonna work my way down so i started off with the intro and i sang in between and like i literally did it like homework i started from the top so you need to tell me when you walk in the studio they don't have this already laid out for you you no they didn't tell me what to say with this thing i was like that wasn't referenced for you yeah a lot of people but that's how i work is just like play me something or play me a b i'm gonna do what i do and i'm gonna leave i'm gonna kick everybody out the room because when i'm in my space and in my zone and i know that it has to be a hit record like missy told me that too don't let nobody in it because if you were working as a school teacher or if you work that scientist yeah nobody can stand no it works for you but some people you having a million people there and my anxiety i'd be like can y'all please get out because if i met you you know why i like that and having a million people then i started writing rhymes in jail see what i'm saying so yeah it's horrible um so um i was used to noise i was used to like you know it like what i don't know if you haven't seen that malcolm x said he used to sit down and look at the light and he would read i would do that too but i would read to write rhymes but if you at jail at night when you write your rhymes it's the most awkwardest sounds ever but it's chaos so you'll have dude oh you do like i miss my mom and your head dude jerking off and you like you like like yeah it's just great it's so many it's so so i got used to and first of all i just had to write rhymes to the radio station i i didn't have beats in jail so i would hear a radio station i would have to write my rhyme over over you so i got so used and accustomed to that that if i have peace and quiet i'm not at peace and quiet right that's your zone that's your home i need actual chaos to have peace and quiet and see i'm the opposite because uh if i hear someone like what's going on over there i can't focus but i've learned how to focus but i don't want nobody in there because if i mess up i just feel like i'm shrinking so it's just like you know literally less is more for me okay and and it's crazy what does it happen is you go to the right track and corner studio with the gold door 47th street because duro had his own room got him got that he's so weak yes girl got his own bro go ahead go go so i literally had to do the song that day and then they scared me because they was just like okay well you can't leave yet because leo is called coming wow and i had met leo pro pri uh previous to that because i i was gonna sign the death gym tina davis and kevin lowe's bought me big up tina davis and kevin davidson empire right now kevin diaz at 300 salute both of you so it is you're still an electorate at this time right yeah yeah i was on a lecture at that time but um i remember leo came in and he was standing there he was just like like you know he's he doesn't give you expression or emotion he's a man of little to very little emotion he said it's always a [ __ ] hit yeah he's like this is a [ __ ] smile oh man that was it and literally once we recorded the record irv was the head of the game whether def jam was going to prove uh approve it or not he was already on the the skytail texted all the pds i'm about to send you a record so duro makes it there we sent it out he was like you ready to be the [ __ ] out of here i'm ready to be the [ __ ] dog right and after that the floodgates open so hot boys already introduced me to the world right put it on me gave me the world right so wow that's that was awesome so so at one point you and jabro had some discrepancies right yeah is that before i cried came no you said our cry was recorded yeah prior to that but i think i seen you on 106 in park one day right and i think it was a g-unit type of thing and i think you kind of am i correct you're right already sounds crazy yeah um and i think what you accused them of was you said that they didn't pay you for the record so they didn't pay you for the video or something like that i don't remember what it was get paid for anything wait a minute what not even publishing though i later got 2.5 later yeah you had to fight for it yeah okay but that's why god makes some mistakes yeah so i did the reckon the album was already done put it on me i cried okay i cried it's cool that i got my right percent okay put it on me winds up taken off it had it had did so many weeks on 106 in park at number one right people were accusing because they said def jam be paying for number ones but they were like no we can't fake a number one here because you have to actually call in and they have to tally like with the radio station when you get requests you have to literally keep a log of it or you can get in trouble right so we were number one so much that they had brought us on to retire the record and i wasn't trying to was it the first time they retired or just other people i don't i think we were the first soldier boy boy we literally had to retire because people were other labels and people were complaining like how come we can't never get a number one is just like nobody wants your record to be y'all are not getting that many calls so i'm thinking go ahead for you i was thinking like oh well this record been out that check going to be crazy i'm going to have a as martin would say and when it wasn't a woo woo woo i had began to inquire and i'm just like well what's up i didn't charge a fee for it i drove up there on my own this and that but what i see now is is if you don't handle your admin that's why i'm really strict and the label well the independent label down with now the faculty music group we're real sure like we'll have the song literally i have the song in my phone but until we get the clearances and the splits are agreed and all the paperwork is right this record because you have to be you never know which song will be out of here right or you know what i'm saying and i didn't handle my paperwork but after that i learned to like oh yeah i'll sing on your record and i won't even charge your feed but i'll charge a higher percentage in higher points so just get me on the back end that's what that means it's just like well instead of three-point standard just give me four or maybe five which is longer paper in the long run periods forever yeah because a lot of times people will try to give you uh uh advanced or artist stipend or you know a fee and then they don't want to give you they want to buy you out of them yeah be like nah i can't be bored so what exactly happened at that one o'clock park thing what what was being said if my memory sold me correctly i remember we were introducing a video and at the end of whatever it was i just said g-unit and i didn't know they was going to keep it i thought the mics was off and they kept it and i realized oh [ __ ] here we go but let me just give the back story i didn't honestly know the the premise of what was going on between them right but but you didn't know that it was at odds you didn't know how serious you were i didn't know how serious it was because before i did put it on me before i did i cried i did somebody's gonna die tonight for the romeo must die soundtrack with dave bing [ __ ] dave bing b-i-n-g and he was he was with murder eight so that's how i got to be on roman was. so anytime that movie plays like i'm just like woo the admin was great on that so i thought everything would be right but it was something that happened at the video set and i remember see i know 50 before he did how to rob and what like around that time my whole boy barry we was writing songs in my whole voice uh he had a joint south in uh jamaica estates so we wrote a song called yeah okay right by the way it used to be a white castle right there so we was writing a song called fugazi and this was before he was shot and so he'd be like this my homie 50. yo he about to blow he got matter of fact he just had dear how to rob and i'm just like yo you dope we did songs on the spot and after that the situation happened and you know i wasn't never involved one thing i realized is don't get in grown men's beef be a lady i knew that enough so when stuff was happening i'm thinking oh this is just industry stuff ain't nothing gonna happen but it was real right so i had inserted myself in something that i had really no business and i said something i think on hot 97 one time that i used to uh fill in for star and buck wild wow and i filled in and i said something i did three things you should never do against uh uh i think it was like whatever it was i said and the last thing was never ever put out a diss record against i think it was um somebody had tried to dis eminem at 50 whatever it was and i got a call from mona scott and chris lighty and sylvia ron was just like be a lady don't join in the men's beat that don't have nothing to do with you and that from there i was just like all right because i thought it was you know industry beat they'll be labels of co be in cahoots and be like all right it's gonna end this but now we're getting into a port where it's just like this is stuff that don't have nothing to do with the industry and it don't have nothing to do with you right not your damn business goddamn sex little super six of them should that goddamn make you look like a dancer come on yeah so i still got something left how did you and josh fix that because here you go you got this great relationship put it on it was super personal i cried yeah and then this 106 and park thing happened but what was crazy like i think what it was was before the 106 of park thing happened i remember we was i was touring with them because you know as an artist sometimes in the music apartment you're cutting you off as an artist sometimes we don't know what the label will do and don't do like you know what i'm saying so like when i when when i saw that i i immediately knew i was like i don't think she unders she understands that how busy he is that he's not even paying attention yeah so was there ever a conversation like you calling jabru prior to that and saying you know what they didn't pay me on this you know now once i realized he didn't even know right okay yeah john would be the last one probably i realized but he even put out a diss record on me and dude i did a who shot y'all was like i did who shot you like yeah i was saying some crazy stuff because i used to really want to be a rapper but i just could sing so it was just like oh y'all these things y'all going to talk crazy about me you must not know my [ __ ] she's wearing an orange jumper no this is a piece for my so because um didn't y'all do the video on baltimore i cry yeah we did that in in cherry hill that's like breaking the hood like it was a shootout as soon as we left oh god like a 14 year old was walking we got y'all like wait he has a gun oh my god whose kid is this right he's gonna say but that's when i was just like baltimore really had my back but before that it was just like i'm just running around hyped up doing shows and i was like wait i mean i know y'all paying for flight in the hotel but you know and put them but rich what ha i'm gonna tell you this nobody ever knew this they were saying that they was just on promo so me promo is just like okay i'm not promoting my single we're not getting paid we're just getting travel statement by accident uh um booking agent sent me his deposit by accident wait okay yeah who are we talking about again all right it's about just yeah okay okay okay so you're on a home around with them but obviously when they're saying you're on promo it's not josh saying you're on promo it's the label or someone else say well continue that's what they were telling my management so one day i get a fedex and i open it up and the job was for like it was other was it it was advanced for like four shows so it was like 50 000 so that means he was getting 25 000 a show and this is a check oh this is cash oh okay wow so i'm getting phone calls and they like hey i think we but no i called them and i'm just like uh i gotta check him but it's not to me was y'all supposed to send me something else because this is fifty thousand dollars advance for four shows that means twenty five thousand a show four shows a hundred thousand uh where's my like where's my i call them meanwhile you're doing shows for free 99 but the bus is taken care of flights were taken care of and hotel yeah and per diem you said okay yeah but i was singing two songs i was performing my heart out so the agency called me back and was just like wow we've never had this mistake in all the times we've done bookings can you void it and send us a copy i avoided it and i sent them a copy it was like your honesty is what's going to keep you in this industry wow and i was just like let me call and see so y'all are getting paid for shows that ain't none of your [ __ ] business and i'm just like uh-huh okay who's saying that's none of your business everybody i spoke to i don't know who at that time i had a different manager okay so i'm just like just telling you yeah it was like who's saying it yeah so then she speaks to whoever and they just like well we had already had a show booked and i remember i think we went to chicago out of labor and it was like well y'all don't have to [ __ ] come no more say no more one thing about me is if i feel uninvited or you tell me i ain't got to come there no more i ain't showing up oh yeah like i'm not gonna beg nobody that's the scorpio on me i'm not begging you for [ __ ] yeah but i'll sleep outside before i beg you to come inside right it's just certain things that's my that's my pride so you're telling me someone from murder ache said well that's what the management came back like well y'all can go home but it wasn't my fault that y'all were getting paid we weren't told so we were doing mtv spring breaks bt spring bling's doing all of these shows and i'm just like damn like i'm thinking the bag gonna run up right i still got bills i still you know right so at the end of the day that's when it dawned on me when sylvia wrong said these a lot of [ __ ] ain't your friend okay so i stopped going on the road and then it was it was it was a hiatus between me and john talking because it went from us being like brother and sister too that's what i was you know what i'm just going to just be brother and sister with the people that i know that ain't never do nothing shady but then i later realized it you honestly don't know who it is or who it was but um how did we reconcile yeah how did you i think uh we had a show together and it was just like damn like i said you know what i saw his kids getting bigger and i'm just like damn like i was there when like when all these kids and my nephews and my kids were bad we want to go with ja rule how did we let this industry come in between that my nephew literally he just turned 23 he's like i don't want to stay in your room i want to go with jairu and he would literally come get my nephew so he could go chill with them and i'm like oh damn but you know they're they're smoking marijuana reefers but it was just like you know how did we let anything come between that like we was we was you know we was tight so i'm like you know what whatever i said i apologize because i really didn't know what was going on and maybe you don't know either i'm almost sure i don't know i've never asked him but i'm almost sure me knowing him he didn't know as an artist like as an artist cause he was running around a lot and yeah he was and he was high as hell too yeah yeah yeah sometimes the label was doing some crazy [ __ ] they watched and then i realized that i was having actions these days heavy actually days i was and i was one of the ecstasy hands i was running around so it was just like oh okay we thinking people that are in position are going to handle our paperwork and do stuff but just looking back i was just like for me and and my soul for me to have to put it at rest because i don't understand how somebody could beef all day like if you want to take that to your grave and we don't know what's going to happen in the afterlife if you have to literally stand before allah or god or whoever you serve and they say the only thing that's keeping you from having everlasting life or perfect peace is because you're holding an art against somebody that really if your life limb or property ain't in danger anymore why are you mad at this person it's just like you know what i it wasn't affecting none of my business or on my hits i was affecting it so i got to the point was just like yo i apologize for this i ain't mean that [ __ ] i was i was i was i was one of them days which my period could have been on it could have been anything and i was talking [ __ ] but i'm honestly i'm one of the first r b artists to talk [ __ ] like i'm still talking [ __ ] to [ __ ] i don't know where that came from but i think it's my accomplice i really would talk [ __ ] tonight i'm gonna tell you something i i was on a tour i think uh what job i was going to talk with y'all now i think with y'all but i was going to talk with y'all and one of the illest moments i've ever seen in my life was him look to the crowd and say i want y'all to say i cry and then this crowd said you cry and then this girl said we cry and then and then he didn't even say we're gonna say that part together and he came out there and he was like he just went like this and i said i need one of those yo that shout to my wheel in a stadium and i looked and i said holy [ __ ] do you know how big because i don't put it on me and put it on me but have you ever seen when he when uh the end song that where would i or i don't even have to when you have a hit record you don't even have to sing it what i do is like all right we're just going to go to this part and y'all know what to do and i literally stand there and people sing it to the top of their lungs if it is it's a anthem it's gonna be the best song in the world it's the best feeling in the world and that's when i realized i had to let some [ __ ] go because when you know your part is the one that people love with it to this day to this day that's people people have messaged me and be like turn off the record dj y'all ain't got a little mo's part playing i'm like put y'all dude they was like why the [ __ ] do a part of or a version of putting on me exists without mom i'm like well that was on the album they later striked it on the album they say that yeah and but people like i don't want to hear without you yeah so it's just like i realized there was something in my voice so that my gift made room for me that when you hear a song without me on it you don't want to hear it because it doesn't make you feel like you're looking for that [ __ ] but yeah where did y'all film that video at in i think west palm beach or florida you're supposed to say miami miami whatever it was i believe it was west palm beach i know that once the sun goes down the town shuts down so they was like we got to get this shot hype william's like we got to get this shot because it's like an all rich well there's no there's another side of west palm beach yeah that's the yeah and at six o'clock the city shuts down and you have to be in your house or it's your birthday well so how because when i when i when i i always um we interview somebody i go to twitter because twitter is like the most evilest place on the planet but it's also like the most smartest place on the planet for sure it is twitter is and when i said anybody got questions for little mo they said how does she feel that she basically put fabulous on that's what they said yeah everybody always asks why why why do they why do they think that do you think that well i know that before we did superwoman he was like all the mixtapes yeah that was his first radio record right yeah that was his first crossover hit record and he was also assigned to a lecturer at that time too because a little bit after he got it wait a minute you got him okay continue and in desert storm got the imprint deal or whatever their label deals through a lecture right but they include had all the mixtapes or a lot and because it says superwoman too the remix correct yeah because it was a super bowl one part one and that's what i took i had did the beanie single beat and i can't wait to see that battle okay brian michael cox did that be good so i did uh you ain't got to look up in the sky for and jermaine dupri was like this [ __ ] is a hit yeah but we sent it into a lecture and they was just like the song is too cocky and i'm like because i was like basically saying you ain't gotta look at these chicken heads you ain't gonna look anywhere else there's a difference between me and these girls and they was like well we don't want anybody to get offended or think that you're taking shots at them i don't even know nobody in real life but missy ellie and i'm not talking about her like are you kidding me so um i i did superman part two i was in la with clue working on a record because we had dead songs with b2k like clue and clue enduro produced yeah so you heard that young girl we did uh a song with a girl artist that was on dreamworks because they cut checks her name was kanela cox and we have that with steven on spielberg recognition yeah right okay and drano was cutting checks he was from l.a he was a street [ __ ] he'd be like i want 50 000 for a song and then [ __ ] don't need to come out hey i don't care day checks clear right so um we were doing a stream and we were doing the song and the session was over there was two hours left but clue had to get back to the east coast for his monday night mixtape and i was still in l.a and i was like you got two we ain't wasting this two hours and we ain't just sitting up here so i was like hey play me a beat he played me the superwoman beat he was playing beats he was like i think you should do something like this and i was like i don't like when people tell me what you do this is clue he's playing beats so he plays a beat and it was just and i was like i want that because that song that sound is so annoying i want to annoy people but when i put my vocals over it that you're going to go up he was like i can't give you that beast that's for mop oh wait up wait up wait wait did mlp have a version of it already yeah wait a minute because way too fast hold on let's look at that they tell me y'all need to do a remix already with mlp on it now yeah i was like how about some high quality yeah this is so great pictures this is stuff people would never know anymore you telling me superwoman superwoman two part two original beat for that song was made for mlp for mlp whoa i you killed like you said you killed this so much i can't even think about it and trust me mlp i'm a big m.o.p fan but now that i hear what you did to it i can't even fathom them rhyming what was crazy was it was literally just a dinner it still stayed brooklyn right and the beat was doomed don't don't but i sang over soda every day i sang that there was no chords and okay so i had to sing that where i told him i said drop the music tell me how many beats per minute so i duro edited out but i would have to i was like every day i was snapping my finger singing it and i had to stack my vocals so we later had some producers nut producers some musicians come in and play the bridge the the strings and then egg those keys on it so if you hear the original beat to what it became the tv track you'll be like [ __ ] you could tell i was around quincy jones in them goddamn nice because we win away from your plaza no but it was just like it was for mlp so i did the song and i sent it to clu we had the delta dashes this was the craziest thing delta dashing remember those days why wouldn't you i'm showing myself when you put mlp and fab on there okay so the thing is was with fab i'm always listening i used to be a mixtape head right and clue's like who do you want to get it because by that time i had worked with missy john jay everybody knew my name who you want to get on it i was like dude when you say jay was wrong okay okay okay i could have had i could have had mop on it or anybody you know and i was with a lecturer so it was a it could have been a check but my budget was basically tapped out which means that i still have money in the banking but i didn't want to use all the money because i knew they were gonna hit me so i know jay-z is going to charge a hundred thousand dollars missy's gonna try to beat 200 so who you want to get on the record i think it would be dope with a rap i said the boarder spelled his name on all your records he was like spins i'm like yeah i'm like he's dope he was like oh that's easy text him and fab and he was with um he wasn't skinny uh he was with webb and chao okay him and webb came to the studio with yellow durags on chicken boxes and skytell pages so i'm thinking like he's gonna come in and be in this big sorry i don't know what chicken boxes is chicken like it comes in a box with chicken and french fries you do my real i thought it was a sling oh well real chicken boxes they came in there with food okay okay or something dancing rabbit smelling i think he gonna come in with all these slick rick juries on and welling out he came in with just him yellow do-rags yellow durags and chicken and i believe uh maybe street family it was like i'm just like oh you gotta come in with 100 people so i'm just like so you ready to do your part cause i'm gonna go i'm gonna let you do your thing he's like oh i'm ready oh okay let me move out your way so we were at right track i leave out so he comes back like a couple of minutes later so i'm like you're finished he's like yeah so before we push play i hope you don't mind i did a little something in the intro and i did it uh some at the end oh so you're just working above and beyond so soon as i heard something like he was like little um oh i was like oh my god he spelled my name at the back so he was like i guess as soon as i heard his voice and what he said i was like you've got to be this first couple of lives i guess i ain't got no reason to mingle around i found a superwoman that could lead from the truck and a single-bound mommy i'm trying to bling you down some [ __ ] without shades on can't stand when i bring you round she put her lips on the weeds still pull it to work a tongue and make me come faster than the speed and bullet my love stronger than her locomotive but only for that so he's like oh he'll go to empire so i'm like where did they come then after the bridge and he was like uh the superwoman might have saved my day the skills i would have gained some play now he wouldn't even wave their way i understand why the mother chicks behave that way they see the ics on your chest engraved them great be with thee mic cause usually with them things you tight but only greedy keep for me is kryptonite the way that blue and red fitting on your hips so bright i be like damn i was like we're winning i was so excited i was like how did you know i didn't even have to say well maybe you should tighten it up and i was like we out of here elektra didn't want to put out the record because they didn't feel like nobody knew who he was so clue played on his mixtape and then after what a monday night mixtape or high 97 he just kept on going up to and after that he was oh my god this record is a smash so i literally saw him go from them we had a um so basically you say you put fab on let's just make some work commercially commercially commercially because it went from oh [ __ ] what else calling me i swear to god who is this i did not answer the phone gyro just stop being a bully yo hold on we are live on drink chest little more talk about the good old days how we mirrored it back from you know i'm saying there was a time where we went from the top and then we went through something but i you know i'm saying it got to the point where we get older and you get wiser you realize i took accountability and apologized for just jumping in something that ain't have nothing to do with me oh i love you moe you know what it is [ __ ] oh we got a drink chance moment one two three you know you know sometimes [ __ ] that ain't got really nothing to do with me yeah yeah yeah we we always do man we always do we that's that's a part of being our job our job is consistent [ __ ] you know what i mean hey man hey man i'm going this [Laughter] that's crazy by the way we're gonna address the bean [ __ ] later right but um let's just continue on so um um where was he at boom now superwoman first commercial record for fab so so okay yeah yeah first commercial breakup for fab and you know i was just playing around but putting them on but a lot of people say that because um as i tweeted out today um which i do with every guest especially guests that i want to know a little bit more about i'll say yo you got a question a question too and i swear to god i can show you on my my twitter like it was like if i had 57 messages at least 30 of them was like yo how does little mom feel um that that she was responsible for the world notice and fab is that something that um you and fab ever have a discrepancy like you ever tried to get him back on the record or and it wasn't just why you left no no no because it's like it's never been a discrepancy and he'll even say he said in interviews like mo gave me a chance you know what i'm saying and then that opened the door he's done records with mjb j.lo everybody like he's worked with everybody and they opened the door so it's just like for missy did that for me so the way you have longevity in this industry is you put somebody in position and you keep putting people in the position so cuz because it didn't stop there right so it's like now a lot of the young artists that are coming back yeah right so you do good good going to come back so whatever you put in the atmosphere is going gonna return so it just didn't stop there but missy did that for me but there's a lot of times where you ain't answered fab whatever um like run on you yeah basically well we did after that we did can't let you go forever like we have so many records together it's like we have a whole i honestly know that we wanted to do like a um duet like a like a a collaborative album and i know he was like def jam wasn't with it i was like man let's do it ourselves right but now we have the opportunity now we all have the opportunity to do it yeah so it's just like it is what it is but those fans are from the album just literally celebrated 20 years on june 26th so 20 years honestly having my first album out and he was a part of that we got two decades come on we got to congratulate but here's something i do want to ask you right because when we google and we kept googling we didn't expect that you don't have a song with ja rule wait what you mean on my album on your album is that that is true yeah yeah i think after like the whatever happened with the fallout we never um but we we have records that never were released okay so what's the people yeah we have records that were never released or i think it was just because he was honestly the most dominant artist and they there was a time when murder inc was a machine like you was not permeating their goals it was like label [ __ ] yeah it was that so now once i'm indeed i have that permeation like when you can't you can't you can't get in you can't get in you couldn't cut through like irv had that [ __ ] on a lot right def jam had that [ __ ] unlocked so it was just like if you was trying to do a female in a a male song you wasn't if he put out some with a female in the mail he wasn't you wasn't beating it right he he mastered the game he had all the pd's names and numbers in his phone and he made them feel important because he would be like he'll go to record [ __ ] the label because they're going to move at their pace so it was just like he was always ahead of the game so wherever their declination came in at where you know things started you know falling apart i don't that doesn't have anything to do with me because at the end of the day i was never assigned to murder inc right so it was just like you know that but you are right i don't have any songs with him actually on it on yours yeah i just think that once me and fab started doing records together just like a missing attempt at certain people's chemistry even though you could have hits with other people it's just certain people's chemistry that surpassed that because yeah so um now we got this music is is is is being handled but now you do loving hip-hop first right before before you get in there wait an electrode you did something with odb yeah whoa old tell us that record yeah oh man rest in peace to him so i did good morning heartache we made that and he specifically told sylvia because he had a relationship with sylvia that was like they was like homies really so he was like i want to get uh that girl on the record the girl that'd be singing and stuff so i'm thinking like this is odb i'ma because he's a singer inside like you could tell that he was yeah but you know coming from growing up watching wu tang and you see odb you thinking that oh my god like i honestly was afraid to go to the session because i'm like i hope he don't be in there acting weird right because ogb was smacking the [ __ ] out you yeah like everybody's like if he's if you delete i was in the session and he said do not rewind delete or do do exactly what i told you to do because sometimes engineers get comfortable and they start doing stuff he said did you record i've seen him walk out of a session where they recorded over his vocal he left but he would have people bring his reels in they would be on in dollies and he'd be like go to track go to reel to reel number three and they would find it he would always come in with the sessions with his reels so we recorded that at the hit factory and i was so scared to go in there and sing where he was like going in and sing how you saying don't worry about what i do or what anybody else has done before you do what you do so i did good morning heartache and saying and he said that he was dancing in front of the boy like this and i'm like well i wonder if he likes it or not and they was like no he loves it and it made the album so that was actually a dream come true because i was wu-tang forever i've i've never worked with her i think that was a fear of mine because you know why because people think pharrell just do like you're so like what what what they just think that he was the neptune but people didn't know that he was writing for swv yeah right so i was scared back then and i don't think my budget was healthy enough for him but we hosted a um hot 97 float like years ago for the puerto rican day parade and we was on that he was just like yo you really can sing and then after that we just was cool and every time i say i'm like what do you be drinking or what do you take how do you keep looking vampire did you join the illuminati but he was just like nah it's just a favor over my life and just honestly after that like he's just a cool individual he never ages right he never like he's a vampire yeah yeah he's a bad boy i want some of that vampire yeah yeah so so boom now we move on to the reality show oh yeah so what made you say all right cool let me go to reality from here and then not only reality but you went to new york which is like going back to your roots yeah it's like going back home a little bit yeah well maybe even a lot of bit um going back home but um you know doing this what made you do that was it a monaco because you like you said it was violated as well yeah but i was rocking with mona before violated because when she well actually with missy like she was the one who set up everything so she we just been rocking out since the beginning but i had the r b divas before that so i was realizing that music is changing and you might think you lit but it's a whole new world out there and reality tv was the way so i did r b divas of l.a and then i got the call for loving hip-hop it was directly from mona because it was like hey i see you know you working on some stuff and do you want to tell your story and because you know people know you this would be a great way to push with uh what you got going on and this was after you you had radio yeah cause i did radio my daughter would be 19. i was pregnant with her when i did radio so yeah what made you do radio like cause most artists whose artists doing just keep sticking to the artist yeah your artist and singing so what made you say at one point you know what uh and i imagine you did it in your hometown at first right that was in baltimore okay in baltimore okay theo mitchum was the program directed here so when i was like i want to do this i used to watch martin and i was like but i was pregnant at the time and that was that's with my first daughter and you know in the industry back then if you was pregnant they ain't care like now you could be pregnant busting it wide open have a baby the next day yeah you could they didn't want you to be seen so instead of sitting at home i always i can't sit still so i wanted something to do and they were like well do you have an air check i'm like what's that like what do you mean a hair check they was like well when you've done radio before well i used to feeling at ready in new york on hot 97 for everybody so is that so tracy clarity literally put in a good word for me and jay stevens and theo mitchum gave me afternoon so it was a little mo show and i was number one wow yeah just by talking but i had so many elements to the show i literally patterned everything i did after martin so we were crank call people we were like it was really all around good show until one day to finish the feds showed up wait what to a radio show i didn't know where this is going what the [ __ ] did you do yeah what is that what happened it used to be so much going on in baltimore so two things one day the cops showed up because remember the dc sniper yeah a little tour during the dc snipers that was the waffle house the the waffle house that he shot somebody out there across the street i had just left there i swear to god where was that yeah what's crazy is the dc sniper used to go to a subway it was the radio station right here and it was a subway sandwich place he should go to every day and they was like he was so polite they didn't know he was the sniper so i'm like oh my god i could have got sniped the sniper before i met his wife okay get out of here okay so i just felt like it was just a protective thing at that point once they realized that he was in that area and the second time they came was when the r kelly scandal had came out okay hold on because let's make sure we go back to the r kelly scandal because it's very important to me okay um to you it's very important to me and car reminds me i know okay okay let's just be clear why are we black yeah we're black you thought the disney's labor was black at first no because that's not the black [ __ ] because he was sniping [ __ ] and he's sniping [ __ ] like i don't know black brothers because you know that much time when they have that so i was just waiting with the kids who wasn't there he was with me that wasn't his kid right that wasn't his kid he had taken him on he was like 15. he was he was the one skyping [ __ ] the kid the kid like he trained him he trains for the kid i don't think we should well real snipers need the guy on the on the joint uh and then that's and they need somebody real snipers eleven latter two latter two four six yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they'd be like the windshield is blowing cause they were doing some crazy [ __ ] i was doing they was doing something so you living in baltimore at the time yeah dc sniper sniping [ __ ] yeah first people were scared to go outside like it was cozy yeah i i i had a tour in the dmv at this time i swear to god i could prove it all right i believe you okay um people getting shot randomly in the heart station yeah like people stepped up against like this i was pumping at like i was like yo i had someone driving me too i automatically said there's some white people [ __ ] what did you say so at first people thought that there's some white people [ __ ] not only that but you know it's a lot of military bases out there he did not pop no brothers at first he popped white at first he was popping white people white people and then he just switched it on the brother and then when he was like then he popped the kid that's when it was up but my cousin was a sheriff out in uh uh saint mary's county and he was like at first they could have been stopped it how because they have aerial stuff they see everything okay but then once it got to the point where he started it's almost like they the government could do anything why wouldn't they stop it because once you can control people by fear then it's just like okay because they have like certain exercises see how people react yeah when they were reacting right but he really whatever was going on he started invoking fear in the people to the point that nobody wanted to pump gas like businesses was suffering and nobody knew where he was nobody knew what yeah and nobody knew what car he was in they just kept on saying dc sniper we have a composite sketch nobody knew he was going to subway and and waffle house and he was going to subway after he was sniping the olives we don't know if it was before but nobody knew they would catch him sleeping at a rest stop and a truck block him in there he didn't look like us look intimidating snipers usually look snipers dirty scruffy snipers look like his name was keith he's like he'd be on the internet all day keep sweating bobby brown about to go at it oh it's about to be yeah because it's about to be out and then i'm going to tell you who i think between you live in this distance but then we go to keep sweating it was just like i was pregnant at the time so once people almost felt scary for you it was scary because then it's just like oh this thing could be over here right like over here yeah it's like it got dangerous and once he started going in areas that was towson that's that's a a money area towson or housing towson t-o-w-s-o-n okay so when he started going into eras that he people thought he should be sniping in baltimore like that's that's messed up but then once they had a composite sketch and i believe i don't know if it his preciseness was they was just like they never thought it was a black person he was ex-military though right yeah i believe so but then when they found out that the young boy lee malmo was sniping he was like 14 or 15. how do you teach my son is about to be 13. god bless how do you impress how do you put impression on someone that's not your own child to be like i want you to go out here and we about to change the game and he never i don't think he ever physically abused his uh ex-wife because i did panels with her about domestic abuse wow and he was starting to but he never touched hard on kids wow so they were trying to say what was his motive they was just doing that that's what that's what that he was mad at the ex-wife because that's a terrible domestic yeah that's why i'm just like it was crazy it was crazy so you you texted dc sniper wife sometimes like y'all no not anymore we did we did a this is the lady that's his wife and i'm just like and i actually off the record i was just on some like yo did he ever pop out like but he would try to pop up at the sisters her sister's house and threaten her but he never touched them and i'm just like yo this is what you say when you say pop out what are you saying like like he was just shooting at the system no he never no he just showed up he was popping people that had nothing to do with anything a bus driver a kid a lady pumping gas understanding he had an argument with his wife and said i'm going to shoot some other people so he didn't have no manifesto here ain't no reason like he had no he just everybody i think honestly has that breaking point right he was a serious breakup that's serious so like he is he wait they sniped him out right i forgot i think he was in prison i thought lee malvo was in the kid definitely but i think he's out now right the kid is out he was like 14. i wasn't going too far with this [ __ ] man he was four he wasn't ready please come on wait a minute like something but it was like when i say people in different counties were afraid to pump gas do you know how imperative it is to pump your gas and then when you gotta peek around and you don't know because nobody knew we they couldn't find the vehicle no nothing the country would scare everybody like people thought it was copycats that were gonna start doing it yeah he was literally he never missed right so once he killed that kid that was at the bus stop talking [ __ ] in case he was alive yeah like no i was at the waffle house waffle house that he shot at the gas station one of those joints it was either gas station in the waffle house we were playing around because we had just seen the news huh but the young kid he trying to get out because he was trying to say that he was coerced lee malvo m-a-l-v-o yeah so we were playing around swedenborg we on tour we playing around as we get like not getting gas i think she said that earlier but i think we were like just using the bathroom or whatever it was like yo yo watch out watch out watch out the sniper and we and we're playing with this plane around the sniper we get to the hotel you know how the tour bus [ __ ] the your tour um the the uh the tv don't work when you're going on the highway and then once you pull up to the hotel right and it pulls up and we all just look at each other like he shot the dude at the same exact place we were playing like we were just playing around like yo yo yo let's get out of here and we looked and i pulled up i was like oh [ __ ] like if we just we didn't play no more from that moment but they make you think as an artist like what if he was at the show yeah oh wow damn yeah that though he definitely shot before the show it was like okay but you know what he was getting away because he didn't get caught after yeah so he might have been at that [ __ ] like nye people think that snipers just snipe and then be just on a rampage like no they they chill out because we went to the wi-fi was like oh nobody over there i might go check it out oh [ __ ] i ain't got no tickets let me i'm like yeah he might have popped up go to the last place they're gonna expect just like they always do now earlier i heard you say you worked with jay-z how was that in the and where areas jay-z is this this is possible all right up for parole next year damn he getting out they're gonna get him out he's gonna do a story so where was his mom and dad that's why i'm just like and every time i ask that i get in trouble because people be like why are you worried about when people's parents said because my daughter is legally grown and i can't even set up a point was they were like well we have to speak up first before we give you this information so i'm just like i'll be knowing i need to know where the [ __ ] these parents is at because i need to know where my kids is at all times because [ __ ] is real right and you can lack if you want to but [ __ ] just catching people slipping and i i would hate to be the like i don't know if maybe he i don't know if he was like an adoptive son or maybe his godfather but how did he get it yeah like the wife how did he convince the kid like what does he matter what did he say to him that made him be like we going out here to snipe [ __ ] all right you have to be pretty persuasive and charismatic to be able to pull it off i don't want nobody to have that type of power over my son because it's that easy period so yeah what was he talking about jesus in front of dc sniper going come here he's dead yeah he's there he's dead oh yeah but the kids are just but there's some snipers out there all right so now mary's boot can't come to you oh yeah all right because we were talking about loving hip hop but it didn't between because love of hip-hop and marriage boot camp was literally filmed almost simultaneously it was literally a couple months after because because marriage boot camp had to get clearance to from loving hip-hop too so you was already on a couple of seasons eleven hip-hop yeah i only did one season okay and i was done i did my bid and i was out all right let me get it yeah goddammit got down um i believe it's your husband at the time yeah cause i'm not married no more okay so this is footage of him like facetiming or being was that something that the show pulled off or that this was this was absolutely real because no it was absolutely real oh really it was absolutely real and one thing because now i could talk about it because we couldn't talk about it before the show came out right so i had to fake the funk as if we were still together until the show actually aired but that was back in 2019 so now i can talk about it right with that house you're there for like 30 days not 30 days or so like 28 days anything after they say after 21 things you after 21 tries it's a habit but when you're in that house for a week it's almost i wouldn't say jail because i've never been to jail but when you're in the middle of nowhere you can't leave there's little to no wi-fi connection you have to stand by where that actual scene was filmed because that's where the wi-fi connection is the house is a dead zone and before you film they keep you in the hotel you can't leave out your room they bring everything to you you don't have no room key you don't have no access to the outside world it's mentally designed to break you down because then you get to when you're it's a real boot camp it's a real boot camp right and they let you know that and you sign off so i know what i signed up for but when you sign up for it it's just like you know what you're getting into right but i went back to what mona says is if you find out right what is presented before you and you find out that it's valid what are you going to do right because how this happens right because you were asleep at the time that he was making i was on a whole nother side the house is big as [ __ ] right right you can get lost in that [ __ ] and then sometimes they cut off parts of the house they'd be like oh you can't no no you can't come over here because they're setting up scenes like you'll be asleep and you'll wake up and there's a whole [ __ ] carnival outside all right okay so with that i was on the other side of the house so is there a cast member who tells you this or is is it the actual staff for production what's that it's actually dr v and dr ish and i can say it now because they came to me off record because when you're filming doctor who dr v that's the lady and dr ish oh okay i just don't know dr x that's it okay dr ish doctor but dr v was the white lady right yeah okay okay i remember that okay yeah they came to me they was like can we talk to you and like when they say can't they talk to you they take you in this white room and are you automatically thinking that they're trying to start drama or you believe no they don't they're not there to start drama okay cool they're they're honestly they want you to bring the drama they know it's only a certain amount of time you can last but for the dramas like people can sit up there and try to hide but it's going to pop out yes because they'll mentally [ __ ] with you right till you be like oh [ __ ] so i was in the house with soulja boy and nia jessica dime and her husband uh tammy and walker uh his girlfriend this [ __ ] was lit she was like so i was in the house with soulja boy but that's like my nephew so i literally got to see soldier boy it's time for you coming to drink chance homie yeah i got to see everything that went down so i've literally seen a lot of people grow up in the industry and then i got to live in the house with them right and seeing people in the industry and living with them is two separate things so mentally i saw everybody break down right and i'm not going to put nobody's business out there i'm going to talk about me right so i knew what my breaking point is they came to you and they show you the footage or they they pull me to the side and they bring me they was like can you come talk to us and once they take you in the white room you know what's up and it's stuck from there they're gonna about they're gonna that's when they film and they're gonna present you with some information because everybody you think you sneak in but this could be a microphone this could be a camera everything is a camera and a microphone this could be a camera so you sit up there yes [ __ ] they got you period the house is strategically put together to catch your ass slipping right so unless you lay there like this and read in your bible the whole time your ass gonna get caught in some [ __ ] right so when they came to me they unfolded these papers it was like hey you good today yeah yeah i'm good what's going on because we smoking halloween right because you'll go crazy out there it's the middle of nowhere it's and you can't go nowhere so they were like we want to show you you're in the casino i don't even know where it is okay they drive you there and you don't know where the [ __ ] you're going because they'll stop they'll pull over and then you'll get in the lambo yeah and then you just do this yeah and you're like the president yeah there's no address right like the front of the seller you can't be like i'm gonna send my location there ain't none of that going on yeah so they had the police out there so i just remember them handing me some papers which i still have to this day because i went through some old luggage and i'm like god damn right they unfold they send me these people they're like do you know who this is i'm like nah that looked like a dude they were like oh it's a female because whoever it was i'm like well the face looks pixelized what is it giving and they were like um are you the only person that your people is dealing with i said well far as i know like how the [ __ ] i can't even call my kids harley out here i have to use y'all phones to check on my kids they were like well we have reason to believe that he has someone else in his life because he has someone in his phone saved this w-2 i'm like like as a textbook as in like woman number two wait like like a w-2 they said it would save this w-2 and i said i do not know who this is people in the east coast they run scans maybe she funneling somebody a w-2 like we don't do w we do 10.99 so i don't know the [ __ ] that's it okay so we're going to give you some time and we're going to give him time to let you know because we've already discussed this with him so you never know what's going on so they gave them ample enough time to say listen this is what i did and they caught me slipping but because we don't talk in the house we write in notes and in the bathroom it's the safest place where you can write a note but don't talk so yeah they saw me on the phone with my sister when i said i love you and she said she love you back they think it's somebody i bet but i'm thinking about the picture [ __ ] that's your sister okay so now now i get into defense mode so then they take us both into the white room and they're like yo so do you want did you have a chance to discuss with you he starts going off on a doc i said sit your ass down don't talk to that man like that because you know if you hit them you get prosecuted like it's a clause in there if you touch one of them doctors you you're getting arrested for so and then and then you're getting kicked off and you're not gonna get paid periods like you you already know the vibes sit your ass down why you being so defensive what the [ __ ] going on we in the middle of nowhere how to [ __ ] but if a [ __ ] gonna do what they want to do they're gonna do that [ __ ] underground up in the air in the middle of nowhere my first gonna do what they want to do boom so i had to play it off at that point and i'm just like damn like [ __ ] i'm out here trying to fix this situation but i realized that situation even though it's marriage bouquet i went in to fix myself right because god damn i already knew what the [ __ ] was going on and i knew what the [ __ ] it was hitting for but i needed to face a reality that i was allowing my brand to be compromised i was allowing my integrity to be compromised which my dad told me never compromised integrity i was allowing my personal space to be compromised and i was my mental emotional physical spiritual everything was compromised so i needed those 28 days to break me down because once i get out of this i'm up and it's stuck and then like i really like this is that cardi b song you saying i know that stuff i was just like it is what it is okay so after that i realized now it's time to make your way of escape okay so you could stay and know the [ __ ] you're dealing with and know that it's actually destroying your brand because once the you don't know what they're keeping for is the footage but once it's get once it's out there you already know what people's dming you and sending you you already know the truth it's time for you to face it so me being a woman that come my parents are about to celebrate august 9th they're celebrating 46 years grew up in church grew up military like grew up bedtime you know a very lenient home so what i was doing and how i grew up wasn't matching up i was accepting things that i shouldn't even allow to permeate my space so it was just like i had to make a choice but when you're trying to leave a situation after the world is about to see like damn i thought you was married [ __ ] this your third marriage when they show the thing like damn [ __ ] a lady told me one time every time i turn around you get mad i saw a [ __ ] stop turning around but then i had to realize for myself [ __ ] stop making permanent decision off temporary emotions so i took that accountability for myself so honestly marriage boot camp was for me to get my mentor together because it'll put you in a space where you have no other choice but to fix fix it yeah i had children together one okay yeah so was that that complicated it didn't complicate it at all because i had a domestic uh case open which is a pfa protection from abuse so people a lot of people didn't know but people were telling me but i was defending the situation [ __ ] we know what the [ __ ] going on i'm like [ __ ] you [ __ ] i'll beat your ass well i'ma beat your ass and i'm getting my ass beat so i'm one of the people that follow through in philadelphia and in pennsylvania you have to go three times to the court and i went all three times so i have a detective order so with that my divorce is final everything i realized and dr ish the black guy he came to me he was like i don't ever con like i don't ever push for divorce or for people to break up but i'ma just tell you moe once he says cynthia that's my real name once you realize who you are that's when you're gonna make the right decisions and you're gonna level up and i actually do this early in a different way um so you were later to marry jay blaze when when she felt like that very much and on hot boys video set okay cause i'll start crying now when this one [ __ ] get real i mean i took i used to always go with my sister everywhere i always keep somebody with my family close because i don't trust the industry people [ __ ] will try to lie i've been i've been in a situation where people try a lot of people i ain't got nothing to do with that um mary jane bloodshed got in we were in our trailers and she was just shooting the scene and so for some way i reason boys videos video shoot i had my sister with me and my sister like i want to meet eva i was like well let's go say hi to mary she with her sister latonya mary grammy she was like oh my god and i still have the picture to this day with me and my sister from the hot boy set she was like y'all got some she used to call us the pretty wig sisters she was like yeah i got some pretty weights this is mary took herself okay so mind you i'm just getting the industry and i meet mary j blige and i'm so freaking hype hell yeah mary says let me tell you something don't trust none of these [ __ ] and keep your family close why she sound like mary right now like she didn't tell you what i reminded her i'm probably like you just you just you just embedded her she told me that that was in 1999 she said don't trust none of these [ __ ] and keep your sister close wow keep your family like your real family close because people will play like they family they don't but she was like will you get your wigs from i was like oh my friend got him from flatbush f she ordered them they twenty dollars she says the [ __ ] y'all pay twenty dollars we just paid a thousand dollars for these to be flown in i said no we get these just for flatbush my girl my home girl yes she buys i give her a hundred dollars she buys five wigs and she styles them up so while people are charging a thousand she getting them from the line she the line she's the source and she called us the pretty wig sisters and then after that i never forgot this so every time i see mary it's always love she always like does her documentary i haven't seen it yet okay but i saw pieces of it because i saw it with me supposed and i saw and i was just like damn that [ __ ] i've i've seen tours with mary and i've been a lot of her shows and i'm just like damn i feel that i know what it's like to be on i was addicted to opioids ecstasy when when i googled you um that was the third thing that came up yeah was opioids and i don't exactly know what opioids is can you explain that well opioids are like percocets and it's a narcotic but it started with prescribed pills it started with prescribed pills because us as a black community when we think of opioids we always think that's a white thing yeah we're not realizing that i don't live in a black neighborhood exactly you know what's crazy is the soccer moms right that's who we lit you wonder why they'd be so hyped and the cameras be so lit i'm like oh she's on meds wait wait you going through they're mostly they don't mostly do uh purposes they'll mostly do xanax a lot of that stuff like when i was in california adderall okay the amount that i was doing for my height and my weight it was unacceptable so how how does this happen antidepressants right you you you break a fingertip or something and you go to the doctor all my children i have five children all five were born via caesarea so they give you all of them all of them and what does that mean being servicing people they cut you open you don't push it out your pouch all right so they cut you open so they gotta give you some meds after that they give you they give you a spinal so they don't give you a normal epidural so that means from here on down well from the waist on from the ribs on down everything is sleep and before you can even go see your kid for real and before you go you have you have to move your feet and certain things you have to do so when you have a v of a vaginal birth you can literally go home the next day we have a c-section you do it five days automatically it's like a surgery it's a certain yeah it's literally the most it's dangerous it's dangerous yeah because everything is sleeping a lot of people they'll do v back which is vaginal birth after caesarean but i don't want to feel no labor so i opted for all cesarean but i realized now i was just getting uncertain because i didn't want to feel no pain because i was going through enough in my life so medicate me and give me my perks wow and then after after these you're saying after you're the the the the highest level of meds that you can get because i'm saying when did you become you thought that you'd be you was addicted it was after all five kids or this was in between it was in between really yeah because of they was giving you because they'll give you the mess and then when they when they come past the point where it becomes uh uh doctors can't lose their license for overprescribing right so then we start going to the street to try to pay extra money a 30 on the street now 60 dollars before it was like 20 25 that is 60 because it's a short opiate as a person yeah okay 30 is the highest if you go over that then you're just asking a [ __ ] death you must just do heroin but i never wanted to do heroin because i'm like oh now i can't see myself which is an opioid are you aware of what's going on like you're aware that uh that this is almost considered this is like considered real drugs even though you're getting a cracker you know you're getting a new health even though you're getting it from a doctor like did you ever consider that this is crazy i didn't care okay because i'm like i'm in a music industry i'm a rock star i don't pop x i don't smoke weed i don't dig coke never did herron never did meth so i'm just like oh everybody else is doing it you'd be surprised how many people are in the future got this song molly perkins said well i tried to give him a perk and he wouldn't even take it well you try to get future perk had a philly show and he wouldn't take it he was like no recently or this is when he's here this is when he had this this about five four or five years ago it was him ty dollas on they had a show and i tried and i was just like what the [ __ ] is you doing mo and he was like no i'm not gonna perform like that so i was just like you know what yeah big up to him pick up the phone because i hear a song and i automatically assume that's what he does just because somebody says i'm gonna shoot up the club nobody's supposed to bring him to m16 yeah like just because people say it don't mean they really do it we know what's what's the way so this isn't philly he's in philly and you come to him and how do you describe the situation you say what's up bro i got something because i've seen future for years i've known her for years like so i was like oh and he always have a double cup yeah okay and we were actually i think we would you know what you're trying to say with that we went like we were actually well that's that's everybody drinks before that show because it's honestly it's a comment but no but double cup means scissors that doesn't mean oh no he didn't have that oh really we were actually making which is also awesome yeah well i used to do certain step too really like i don't understand how i'm still alive all right i'm gonna tell you because i've had situations where i've had to be hospitalized but we were making sandwiches and so we would like in the picture i took and i'm throwing up but i'm like damn we was just eating and i was just like yo you good you you want some i was like i got um some thousand some tins and he was like no i'm good he's like i wouldn't be able to perform like that and i was like i respect that fives and some tens yeah there's pink there's green there's white so fives are the whites that's the lowest milligram thirties those are for the heavy hitters oh yeah and what are we talking about percocet holy and what is the perks of perks what are you yeah the person honestly if you don't it's a it's a payment it's the highest level of pain man so when you're on them you become aggressive because you feel nothing you don't feel anything it's honestly it's it's almost like a it's a upper so it makes you feel a coke high but it makes you feel like you're invincible so i won't be in here throwing [ __ ] around see when you start mixing stuff i've been in places where i've knocked [ __ ] over i'm gonna knock all this [ __ ] over here you know what i'm saying but i'm just like damn like i really let myself hit rock bottom but you you said a coke car what does this coke car feel like because i've never coca's a upper you love cocaine stories yeah no it's just like i did that was back in the day old cocaine stories first you did cocaine with honestly i don't do drugs in front of people really because i've always had fear of oh they're gonna have me looking crazy and my butt be out like some weird [ __ ] i remember being high off x and i had to tell my manager at the time like cause she gripped me up i was with snoop and joey i.e and i was about to get turnt high and she was like sit your ass down don't you ruin this party because this is not your this is not your place and i sat my ass down and i went in the room and i remember crying because i thought the phone was on fire i was like can we please get my mother on the phone because i don't want to be this high the phone was on fire that's what if that's what it looked like to me ecstasy is weird so i i stopped that and but i was chasing that high from perkins yeah well i hadn't done perks about it i was just doing x okay halves and holes i thought i was a rock star you took a half and took a hole i told her to slow down yeah but i would sing a show and be killing it so i wasn't like singing all weird and stuff to me that's what um helped john rule is ecstasy it helped a lot of artists you'd be surprised they were a gospel artist put it on me it was you did it was on ssc he's a gospel artist no no no no i'm not ignoring that did you say gospel glassblower artists they do drugs too there's a couple of them you'd be surprised because no i'm not surprised it's like where artists just because they sing a certain genre of music you just never know what the person's going through and i realized what i was going through i realized that i was trying to cover the pain with pills but it was actually destroying my spirit so that's why i would retaliate i'd be throwing shoes at [ __ ] be trying to fight like the last straw was i remember i was off a pill i was off a zany no i was off a uh addy and a perk and it's real by adderall i don't know my white friends take this because they say they hate tesses it's actually to describe adderall for actually is to calm you and to keep you focused so it's just limitless pill those pills aren't designed to make you go crazy but when you start making cocktails using them it does your system just like wait what the [ __ ] going on that was a cocktail cocktail to start your day okay so me being 411 123 pounds back then i was like 115. how am i still alive so that's when i had to become an advocate cause i'm just like yo this [ __ ] cause once the high come down you'll be so aggravated that's when i start cursing everybody out the [ __ ] you talking about [ __ ] will pop out like what and a lot of people i had lost a whole like a lot of fans like it was making the blogs i'm like well the stuff i promote y'all don't post up but when i talk crazy to people that's what y'all post up so i thought i had to had it had the music this is on you while you was on the radio no now i was on the radio because i know that with radio i had said something someone one time and they call the radio station trying to get me fired so you can't get me fired [ __ ] i'm number one right so i became cocky at that point morning show it's hard to be number one but people will call and complain but then when they call and complain and too much you just like all right i gotta fall back but nobody would tell me because i wouldn't listen because she was on the yard y'all yeah it was on the yacht of me yeah yeah yeah but you think it's individual literally at three o'clock in the morning going to the radio station to be there five four six o'clock show high on my [ __ ] mind but i had a number one show so i thought oh this is what everybody does but you think it's individuals that need this or you think it's it's industry-wise that everybody like the industry they start this is the crutch that everybody needs to deal with all the social [ __ ] the public you don't need it to deal with it because a lot of people with the industry you don't want to deal with the [ __ ] so it's so many people i can look at people right now because i've come for it i'll blow that [ __ ] high as [ __ ] right she you think you're regular you think wendy wins high now i really can't i could tell when she's i can literally tell because it's not even the fact that maybe they pop the field i can feel the spirit you could tell i need an explanation you could just tell by their mannerisms like like oh i could look back at interviews and i could tell when i was just sitting there doing all this like [ __ ] because i'm naturally fidgety because i'm just like i have an ocd like i want to dust this table off so bad but i look back at interviews and i could tell how aggressive how emotional it is you ever did windy wheel show yes i had one shoes already uh okay and yeah you ever thought she was high when you did a radio show probably so but i didn't care because i probably was high too i respect the answer real talk i respect that answer [ __ ] i'm a survivor of domestic violence and drugs the things that i grew up in a christian household my dad's a bishop my mom's an evangelist so everything that they were against i became but i had to draw the line because i have children i don't want them to come back so my kids can read my five-year-old reads on the sixth grade reading level right so what was what was the moment when you was like this is it for me um don't tell me mary's boot camp no i was after that because before i already knew i had to make a change and i had to stop but i remember being told i'm gonna blow your [ __ ] head off and you're gonna throw you over this balcony and everybody that i have been funding and facilitating didn't help so i knew only one place to run and that's where i ran and that's when i was just like i was tired of seeing and feeling like that and honestly i think i was more afraid of going through the uh the withdrawal there's a period you have to go through from anything especially yes it feels like death all right because i've tried it before and i was like nah i can't do this just give me a pill but i was afraid of the withdrawal and it was just like you want to die or and be selfish because you have children or do you want to start from scratch and starting from scratch literally means starting everything over everything so i was just like nah i didn't have these five children for no reason and i know they was tired of seeing because i wouldn't do stuff around them but they could tell by my mannerisms and what was being posted online like they can read and they can see and when my son would come to me and stuff like look what somebody said i would like get off the internet stop but that's all they know nobody watches tv they google everything they see everything and i also seen on jason lee uh a show i think this was podcast or something and jason lee said he was asking you and you said that you went through a moment of depression right and um i believe you said that you had to stay away from everybody at one point yeah oh what happened that then and why did you feel like that because i knew that being around the industry and people it was toxic and i'm not saying it was them it was me because i know that when i come around we turn and it just felt like as my now manager says it feels like people are paying you to go to work go away and i said what do you mean about this because it'll go from making a certain amount of night to people just trying to offer you anything and just like well i'd rather get paid this this anything then do it for free and it's just like nah [ __ ] nah like don't [ __ ] play with me especially not now and people thought that they could play with me even recently and that's why i say it was a test to see if you'll fall for the okie doke or if you're fall for the [ __ ] or if you're gonna stand on what you said you came back to do and i had to stand firm or even things that i think would have pushed me to a higher visible position because everything now is about the lifestyle they want to see you with the bus now rolling they want to see what the aps they want but i was flying we was flying on leo cohen's jet in 99. god damn it so when i see people on jess i'm like damn i did that and i wasn't even you feel me yeah we had the bus that people stole all the rings in the jury like i've been there done that so that stuff doesn't impress me but i get it my k i get it kids are impressionable so it's just like now i have to reintroduce a different glow so you might not see me with oh or i had the grills i had and all of it i did that now the glow that has to be translucent that people that will respect is the one from within so when somebody say oh we want you to be on this tv show for 25 the [ __ ] out of my my mortgage alone i was told don't step out your house unless you can pay mortgage for six months period don't play with him don't play with me okay we gotta shout out the organic food kings oh yes i just ate all the guys that's incredible we got the truck outside at organic food kings make sure you check them out we're gonna be eating them all the time right now do you do you regret um would you regret anything in life like um especially when it comes to entertainment not even your personal just entertainment i have no regrets i have some reservations on things that i said and i did but and i always felt that oh that's who i am but honestly that's not how i was raised so the fact that i get a second chance to revisit and people are just like we believe you mo all right because when you don't realize who you are and people kind of be like but do you see what the [ __ ] is going on like why are you letting this happen i'll be like mine your [ __ ] business that's me it's just like when you realize i don't regret anything i wish i would have did things differently like but i wouldn't have gotten married three times i should not have did that i've let people in my circle in my personal and in my spirit that i shouldn't even you think these these men took advantage are you oh i allowed it totally because google nothing pops up but my name your name so now when i see people like oh [ __ ] baby mama's i was like yeah but look who they associated with so how i'm on tour i toured with jay-z i toured 50 cent i told her missy elliott i told her ja rule i ran stages with keith sweat and paler bell joe lever i've been on jimmy kimmel i was on jay leno i rocked all these shows before they would def how the [ __ ] cause you over there with the y'all the [ __ ] from the y'all from the yami yeah so what's your favorite part of the game is it making the music or performing the music performing i hate the studio really i feel so closed in i feel so stuck and then i'll always go out and listen and i know that oh you don't have to overdo no more you don't have to over sing but live you can give it your all so i i really wish that i could sing songs live and then people know them because i hate the studio and the energy you get from the crowd like whoa why would you hate the studio i don't think i've ever heard i hate being in the booth i hate when the headphone like the studio workout one day somebody broke the headphones that i'm used to so when i had to use some new headphones people might think that oh you being boozy i'm just like nah i just know what i want to hear that level you see that frequency clutching my ears a certain way i'm just used to it so i realized that maybe i needed you to take the bus headphones out i remember i bust like seven headphones uh all of them all the time yeah cause i i go myself all the way down i'm used to chaos but people be like how do you listen to it so loud and you think i'm like i just want to hear it laugh i want to like i don't know why i have it up so long they'd be like well step back from the mic because we can hear it bleeding in i'm like oh well you figure it out they ain't got nothing to do with me hello wow so and was you on the ladder records as well no just election even though it was weird cash money yeah it and you have a podcast as well right well i did the podcast like two years ago and i was traveling to new york i actually had on the little motion we was running right above madison square garden so it was like a lit situation was um i forgot the station that was over there they they had a nice room it was like a stage and everything so i was doing a podcast and i just realized like the artist side you have to like pick a side with r b because when you're doing interviews and you have to discuss uh current events and when somebody do something crazy and you have to talk about it people think that you hating i'm just like i literally used to have to tell artists well stop doing dumb [ __ ] and we don't have to report it right so because i really have to focus on my craft and my glow it's just like i'll do the podcast but like everybody has a podcast now right now everybody everybody has broadcast and i'll be like there's some people i'll be like don't don't buy anyone the [ __ ] you gotta say like people just think you get on the talk they don't realize this production is you have to stay current content everything but i learned that from radio so i literally came from major and learned everything from the artist side to the radio side yeah so it's like now i know how to rock it so once i do my show this time i think it'll be through the roof because i got the friendships and the relationships where i could call anybody beyond but you got to make sure people care and did you like reality tv when you did it i did okay but at the same time it's just like i know that the higher-ups have their favorites they were like well they getting all these episodes and don't know what see i'm a part of that i'm a part of the industry but i'm also part of the don't care society so they'd be showing stuff on tv like don't nobody care like what do you think nobody don't care about right now people don't care about foolishness like if your artist they just want to hear you sing about the name of a show uh people just i just look at the show you hate right now let's just throw it out there i don't even watch tv she told us movies i watch movies okay what's a good movie uh i just watched the movie it was a uh netflix it was called i saw the devil and it's totally in it's japanese but they have the subtitles [ __ ] is japanese not a cannibal he was uh dismembering people but he wanted to be caught but they couldn't catch him and he killed the fb a japanese fbi agent's uh fiance and she was pregnant so he started killing [ __ ] she was crazy what's that [ __ ] um uh um not hard boiled hard boiled yeah yeah is it hard boiled jungle john woo hard boiled or nebulous i watched the family guy i'll either watch total comedy satire okay what was a great comedy movie you like steph brothers yeah oh we me and my son we watched the holy and that's just funny did he vote for pedro he went to he started football workouts oh and he started throwing the ball and they was just like yo justin they told me i said just they were like you missed three passes you trashed she was like well that guy was a ripoff my son is hilarious he says stuff around me i'm just like i don't know if a son should be saying to a parent like he'd be like mom yesterday was so hot it was hottest tits outside but what son says that today you're getting a lot of money because he's raised right yeah because no real hood kid is saying as hot as that word in front of my mother and i'm grown to this day i'll be like i'll say boobs but i'm like oh my kids really i mean that was worse things you could be saying yeah the stuff that my son says and the thing he's watching if he's like from the hood and in the hood even like his hottest rankings island that's not a good thing but my five-year-old when he um he just got out of kindergarten so they did half virtual and then they let them in for four days a week the last day of school he was like yes it's going to be a hot summer it's litty as a titty i'm like yeah i'm a smack [ __ ] out you soon get away from these anglo-saxons okay now they just announced bobby brown against keep sweating versus yeah tomorrow well july 1st july 1st yeah so this is this this will be out next week so this had already happened yeah who did you pick we're back to the future okay so because i've worked with both i haven't done anything for you right now hold on come on yeah keep sweat so that's automatically my pick but you gonna go against my prerogative well let me tell you something new edition wait no audition gonna be there no no i'm just saying that he could go in the back he's going out here he can't but they both work with teddy raleigh so honestly this is really teddy versus himself are we taking a shot are we taking the shot come on let's just take a shot let's just take a shot cause i don't know where you're going with this because i was just like with bobby brown he was the original bad boy yeah so much my brother my brother touches my brother used to be dancing and we were supposed to be in bed because my brother's thirties i see the hole with the long finger yeah we need to send you all here and he got a whooping my dad was like i told judah go to bed and stop bobby browning so whenever he's the pump and dance like the r b singers used to [ __ ] my dad said stop bobby brown and he was like that was inappropriate so you young the homies why y'all gotta [ __ ] dance bobby browning i would like to learn that bobby brown well they do this now that hop in the door bobby bobby was the original bad boy so he can't watch we watched you lose you're a [ __ ] legend about giving artists they flowers thank you and you deserve your flowers thank you you have always been there i've never seen you you know with the sour puss face i've always seen you happy i've always seen you you there working busting your ass and you deserve to be there you deserve to be the legend that you are and we want to tell you to desperately we invented giving people the flowers i don't know if you know everyone's saying right now soldier boy boys no no it's real talk no everyone's saying it now but we did this right here in the same exact place we said that we didn't want to interview the new artist not because we don't got love for the new artists but we do but they have the hot97s they have the power 105s they have these all other outlets where's the outlets for the people who've been here 10 years and more or less seasons that still want to be here yeah and you know what they deserve they flowers and this is what we did we don't want something to happen to you and say oh my god yeah this is what they deserve so this is what we we we didn't event the whole flower thing but we invented it in hip hop saying giving people the flowers thank you and just case you don't know you deserve your [ __ ] flowers thank you you're a legend you're uh um and pursuing all do you did you think that when you first started that you would survive this long no because i literally used to take it for a joke singing or being like you know people who have like oh i grew up with barry gordy or i grew up with i grew up in a stevie wonder's house or people had that story i never had that story i literally moved back to york sang his eyes on the sparrow and um chuck bone told me when i because i was gonna sign to uh different labels back in the day but a lecture was the ultimate choice um especially with missy being there yeah not only that but the rhymes was there let's not forget yeah i was supposed to talk to tommy boy it was like certain labels that i hated glad you didn't sign the comic book hello i was on time i mean tomorrow at one point was a legendary uh you know what tom says i forgot the lady's name she bought me over there and she was like i think she's going to be amazing if i hear her name i would remember it not carolyn williams no she was kind of she was heavyset okay damn i don't know i forgot her name but she she might have not even really worked there hello because you know people used to care but we couldn't say nothing you couldn't google them you couldn't google them back then you just have to look at the instagram they was the assistant but now a lot of assistants are executives so i've seen it but like just like just looking over how i got in the door right chuck boone told me one day he was just like yo you talk a lot of [ __ ] but for some odd reason i believe you could back it up so i don't know where it came from i literally were going to meet and act like i already had a record deal right and i just always acted as if that i was just like i already knew what i said and sought out to do i didn't leave home at 17 to lose so even though i took some uh hits in between i was just like nah i'm always i don't know like i don't know what gave me our driving motivation then but now what motivates me is my children because i love i love my kids like the pandemic was a blessing because ever since the age of 17 actually before that 15 i've been on the road so i didn't know what it was to sit down my ass down for a year i would have a kid and within six weeks we'd be out we'd be on the road my daughter was on a tour in jamaica with me my she's 18 now but i was just like yo i literally ain't never set my eyes down so this year i had to take off i got to refocus re-brand revisit re-glow everything now we didn't get a definitive answer of bobby or keep sweat we didn't get a definitive answer okay bobby was the bad boy but keith sweat is almost like you win a tunnel and there you go bill cosby yeah yeah yeah i don't know you didn't know obviously because people are automatically free honestly i think the safer i've never heard all right i would have to choose keith sweat for safety reasons right because he got a jerry girl not even that okay but keith like we've never seen him go but bobby was a bad boy so i would hang out with bobby but i would ride get a ride home from keep sweating all right cause bobby feel like he's gonna just throw cocaine everywhere see i've never seen him do but bobby just used to be too good he's going to do some print [ __ ] and the [ __ ] goes just blue [ __ ] that's what i was saying cause he came from new addition he just said i've read some stories about rick james and i was just like yo he was lit what are they saying who told that story where did i hear that responsibility he jumped on the table he threw the cocaine at the president yeah he was like wow yo but i heard about that herbert brown fried chicken with cocaine now that's that's pretty out of control no that's it look like you know like the flour the better the better weed better but then cocaine okay you gotta you gotta be pablo basketball you're cooking right now that's expensive that's at who said that it's in this book he wrote that somebody wrote it it's a recipe i didn't even know you could fried coke then that's hey man yeah you know what i'm saying you cooking no that's and not only that when i met bobby brown again for like the third time when i met bobby brown i said what's up buddy he said man i performed he said we used to be rehearsing your projects that was the most honored i was like right yes let me tell you some stalking that [ __ ] okay because i used to live in southside jamaica so i would have to go to beauty school so when we would pass left right i was like damn i want to meet nori and now i used to always think like people automatically see that left right side like you would draw pass and nori would be there i would definitely uh jamaica estates where i eventually moved to states yes because yeah that's very rich you're very rich yes so he owns it now but it's just like damn like and you can't get out those contracts i'm probably still in it today so when you overall the music industry overall entertainment um what is your overall look at it like you you happy you satisfied you sure you like you luck you you you feel great that you participated or this is something that if you had a chance to do it all over you would pick a different career yeah no i would because this is the only job i've never worked at fedex i only delivered pizza when i was like the most i've ever done was went to hair school so this is all i know right so honestly i think i would have stayed more i would have stood more firm and i've never been associated now i have a team i just always been associated with people so i was never i was always torn with murdering but i wasn't never signed to them i was talking with missy but i was never sansa i went on to rock the my tour but i was insane to jay like the people that made the calls will be like yo we want you to run around so it was just like i was never i was always affiliated and associated with things but i never had anything for myself so now that i have a chance to rebrand i wish i would have done it sooner because i think i would be yummy i will own everything because i know the way i think but i would put people in positions to pass me i'm not doing that no more and i think that i should have done it sooner but i get it i didn't know the game i didn't have the management yeah like i was literally doing a lot of things by myself it felt like i was paying people to be my friends and to be around so they would be management rope it would be certain things but i'm just like wait a minute like it just it just wasn't right so i really thought it was the entertainment industry so i was thoroughly and highly entertained but it's the music business right so i did the music but i didn't handle the business so now i have a chance to get it right that's why i'm just like i'm back for my second goal like you nobody can kick me out of any i've never only think i've been kicked out was high school and they had to let me back in who are you calling i'm calling beanie siegel yes carl that's because it's still the daytime oh okay we're in cahoots let's see but so what happened so what happened when you heard that um this versus battle between me and bbc where was that um i was literally peeking on instagram and then i saw it and i started peeking okay and i saw you running in like a sweatsuit and i saw you post i saw them posting up beans it's like yo nori and i was just like see me and beans go way back like years we did parking lot pimple with jay-z together so that was a great experience he shot a video i did a story because friends are family that you're not related to and then there's family that you're not even blood related to but like i used to visit him at the halfway house and there's times that he saved my life so i had to like kind of let's just describe that what time he said just like it's just like i never heard this when people just tell you get out the streets why why you was in the streets dad have you that wait over there yeah i used to be in norway the broad street bully had to tell you to get off the streets well i had to tell well it wasn't not like no no running around like hanging out you were hanging out like outside like and he had to say he was basically telling people just like yo like that's dope what you did with mo like my peoples literally came home it was just like i don't like what people are saying behind the scenes we got to clean you up and i'm like damn it's that bad like and this is b he's saying that to you well being like because he called me little sis that's fine so it's just like like sis what is you doing like how you go from this to like you you can't you can't move like that you're a queen you're a royalty you're a treasure in this industry and you're a mom like beans has cooked dinner for me and my kids that nigga's a chef wow like he cooks stuff that he he cooks seafood better than the seafood because he don't even eat seafood so it's just like we have history right so it's just like i'm glad you you mentioned that and about music thank you oh sometimes i want to cry and pray yeah sometimes that's the kind of someone's saying i'm just not sure if you heard that you know what i mean god no you're from jamaica state it's not jamaica you know what i'm saying but i'm just like yeah that's gonna be a great i love it to be honest the reason being because y'all personalities yeah like i love that y'all don't just be acting weird around like i just tried to gas it up because at the end of the day i did you know uh reach out to swiss and tim and i don't want to say they ignore me because that's not the truth they did you know acknowledge me but they didn't they didn't bring up oh i see what y'all doing i see that you know so i said i figured you know what let me let me let me help hype it up you know what i'm saying so this could happen because at the end of the day beans is my friend beans is my brother but at the time when i say your beans come outside what i said is like come outside get some money like come outside like like like yo we've been hearing about you for four four minutes let's come outside let's get this let's work and it doesn't matter like whether we do the battle or not i want to do it but at the end of the day it's gonna happen at the end of the day when i hit you know brothers and they say and they and they don't i don't want to say they didn't hit me back because they hit me back but neither one of them was like what's up let's do this i see what's happening and i've known i know from the you know backside who they want me to battle like the quietest home proudest crap from what i heard they was like you know a lot of people was leaning towards me with camera right i don't think cameron's gonna do it no i don't think not because he's just you know yeah i think he's just you know what i wouldn't do what do you want to do so i tried this i i really i really really tried this i hit pd crack i hit everybody young guns and you know um i didn't hit young guns excuse me i mentioned young guns and i hate um bleak and it's going to stay the thing is the thing is i don't own versus so i can't make it happen but i did everything i could do to make it happen i did everything i could do to make it happen i did everything still working on it we're still working and that's why we got beans i wanted to have beans call in today i didn't tell them my time i didn't tell them what time so that's probably party part i [ __ ] up everyone we might have him here live at the show and then we might have him here live at the show to promote it some more because i want to go in there and i want it to go down i wanted to i think the culture wants it i think we want people that's that we can relate to like i love verses right but now it's a good popularity contest because i was like who do you want to battle i would want to do like how deangelo did me and some friends because i don't know if people know my disciples get away with that because everyone ashanti do you want to try to just keep it i think that would have been lit with me versus her that'd be a good one and we would have been in the business because we've actually toured together right and and i love his music you wrote first challenge here one time huh you wrote for us no but we both work with like i work with murder inc and then when we fell out like she carried the torch right now she's getting walker fans like that would have been lit and i think of the camaraderie because we have history and like we've done shows to get like when i wasn't doing shows um cold right yeah okay let's do a realistic who you think you um that didn't battle yeah um who should do verses with you uh see because i wrote for a lot of people so i would have to battle a [ __ ] nah we don't want you to get them just like with missy why can't you battle a dude yeah like who says it has to be that's a misogynistic or that's sexist to say that i have to bottle another female so give me a female and a guy you think you can battle let's give me both then and let me take a shot for that well my cocky ass see i should be he he would have to go against a chris brown it's almost like when i came out i was doing what i did so people came before me but then there were people that came after me so you can't battle who came after you you feel me i was doing rap hooks i was literally more hip-hop who's sea school honestly that would be a good battle not cisco yeah that would be a good or bad in english but we go but yeah like i saw people saying you should do a battle because they was like y'all should do a battle with for you i'm just like no my discography even if you may not have heard the song and in my fan base like don't like don't play with me like i wrote for janet and teddy raleigh so i have a song called girlfriend like don't play with me i'm not one of those yeah you can you could do one song here as janet can you janet jackson okay [Applause] my foundation is strong i didn't just get in like just writing songs and then just featuring and just being around like i looked at my discography one day and i was just like wow i forgot i did that or people will remind you be like sis don't ever forget who you are so now that i remember it's not on a cocky [ __ ] but it's just like i did all this by myself right like i had missy be like yo go ahead i remember standing in the booth for whitney houston and she giving me a fisherman friend because my i was so nervous my throat dried up and she was like no that looked uh do that do that and i was like i don't remember what i did i was so scared to play it back and tell whitney houston what to do i remember vocal reducing gerald levert and he wasn't singing no no wrong and all started telling me no he didn't know where i was like i don't want to tell him like i know what i've done everything i remember working with jay-z and him telling me you want to go on tour like please don't discredit my backstory don't worry about what i was saying you'll wash a lot of people up they better be careful yeah because when you see cynthia loving or you got secret weapons you got secret weapons yeah and then i was counting i was just like i got 20 in the possibles right a couple possible yeah a couple possibles because people like oh you're one house like no like i've done features and there are songs that went see everything now they think it's viral they say you bother a guy reggie got so special so he probably would have to battle he would have to battle another guy i used to vocal produce him i did work with him too yeah and i remember he used to be cutting up in the studio and he was like no make him sing i'm just like he's not done sure but to this day he he hugs me we did a show uh with uh live nation he was a family forward tour he was there he hugged me he was just like yo and i interviewed him for ready he was like moe like i survived the turn up we survived the turn up so seeing him go through he's still in the turnover he's still in the turnover but he survived he was outside right he was outside and i was around when he would go to the studio and be running around like oh my god i would have to be like come get your brother yeah or go call mr nolan brandy and her dad wow so i've seen him go through but i get it he grew up in a a lot of people expect so much more from you and you grow up with both parents when you get in this industry you're literally alone and you're finding your way your sister's already established your parents are really dedicated to making sure y'all win you rebel i was a rebellious one so i understood right so when i saw the list of things that he's accredited i'm just like don't sleep he's not one of those he he really has everything he said he's he's a go-getter he's a go-getter a lot of people didn't understand that before they say oh you just run around you didn't no i was just running a rep no i'm not one of those please don't take away what god has blessed me with because i see what you said tell nobody to challenge your verses honestly i would love to do it versus how d'angelo did bring people out because then people like oh i don't want to battle nobody because they go song for song my catalog is extensive i've worked with you know what i'm saying so it's just like it might be not because you've got a lot of records that you wrote for people as well yeah or that i sang or that you didn't know that oh that's me and it'd be like a lot of people was like i didn't know that was you singing that and uh wifey and like stuff that i've done or that it was my i don't know that's me singing even though that's the record i will you be my wifey yes i'll be your [Music] yeah wifey that i like it i did when you move up close to me they didn't know i was i did a lot of background work but it was safe but i was pregnant at the time so i couldn't be in the video i don't know what's going button on me tell you something i can't thank you enough all right really i want you to know that this is your platform yeah whenever you want to come back well you got a record we got time yeah we got the new yeah and uh who is that we're supposed to come on here soon fat masculine shout out to him supposed to come over here yeah yeah that's gonna be lit yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah dad tell us about this new record this new because i can finally talk about it cause like once we were setting it up it was just like one thing i wait for is the paperwork to get in and so once i got the paperwork and i was like i'm glad i'm get i get to talk about shining star and this new glow right um yeah coming back into this industry you have to realize the lane you created and you have to stay in it i'm not trying to compete with these new artists because i realized they got their own goal and they're very popular and social media have you thinking that oh [ __ ] you watched right but i reached out to a lot of people yo i got this record first i did broken heart which we did during the pandemic it came out on my birthday well we recorded on my birthday came on my daughter's birthday this is fully independent fully independent the faculty music group this is your label this is my business partner's label okay so it was just like because you have to separate the artist i have honey child which i like i'm a loan out company okay so when you get so when you see me it's just like how you have this that's little mo yeah this is creed i don't own this at all oh yeah just throw it out here well it's just like so you have the hardest and you have this even though it's independent it means that we do everything ourselves so all my relationships all my connections now i get to maximize wow people say i've been in this game for 20 years never called nobody for a favor it was popping cash yeah i need that so i reached out to a couple of artists hey sent you the record different records i need you on it and the day t-pain reached back when we sent them shiny star was in march he sent it back in what was the day that he announced to social media oh my god i did not know that all these people whatever that day was he emailed me but he dm me back at midnight so i was damn near asleep and it came up tp hit me back he was just like oh my god moe i literally just saw this message so me thinking this cap like oh wait no he did just post i didn't know that the request because when they don't follow you you don't get to see it even though you all right so he was like i got you i said a lot of people said they got me all right like you don't recognize it except i met him like almost 20 years ago a lot of people said they had me that i had all right didn't get me all right he had me wow he sent it back and he did his i literally called my manager i was like tp sent the vocals i was awesome dj khaled said like oh my god you know he said the vocals he was like listen i got my record coming out let me get some vocal rest and i got you i was like oh man he ain't gonna send it he sent it the session and everything the clearest whatever you need i was like wow people don't do that i do that a lot of people don't have that type of integrity speak to my management that's cool i understand that i have my people speak to your people but they'll they'll pussyfoot right or a monkey foot you along the way monkey foot was good because pussyfoot is when you tip your tiptoe [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] is also for send me the email right in front of my email right now and they won't send it back he sent it back he did like i said earlier he did his part so good i was like oh [ __ ] i didn't even think he was going to do that much we went and did my part over wow when i say the soul is immaculate batman yeah right it's it's literally matter of fact this come on next week next week it's out okay it's up is it coming out because we got to coat it yesterday we got to coat it all right cool what's up i was literally just waiting on the artwork but when fat missed scoop said his part because i was like i need you to hype up this record like what you did yeah yeah because people haven't heard his voice in a while he had coveted yeah he did his part he was like yo moe i want his doctor [ __ ] yeah though right the wreckage but the power of sending stuff via email yeah and i'm sending it back and me sending it so scoop in new york i'm in baltimore i don't know where uh t-pain is he's in georgia he's all over because he has his show plus he was working his record with kalani right so i sent the record to la to be mixed send it to somebody else to be mastered so the power of being able to push send and i was just like this record shouting star is not only to empower women because this is women are dominating the industry it's also to me super woman and forever because people keep on calling me for my whole [ __ ] i'm just like we've i've commemorated that that's 20 years old we celebrated that now it's time to celebrate the new the glow the vibe the sound the one that you loved back then when people oh my i grew up to your music and my mother used to play now you're about to grow up to this new glow i haven't missed a beat my voice hasn't changed i've been through some [ __ ] i could sing about it broken heart was the record we released and that's available on all streaming platforms now all my first two hours based on the true story and me the girl next door i finally or on streaming platform so i missed 20 years of streaming whatever year streaming came out they just added october of 2020 during the pandemic wow so we're running it up so now i'm just like now that i have this second chance i'm gonna put out some new music and i don't have to try to sound like everybody today i still have my sound but just to let people know like i'm coming what's that record you got where you were like um i think it's like a 1.5 million views i think it's t-o-p-n-a something like that were you talking about um i forget you know you could leave but leave the car [ __ ] okay okay all right so that's independent as well that's well that was on the first hour so that's that's on uh that was 20 years ago god damn it oh yeah i just so happened to like god preserved me for this time the pandemic was good i got a lot of rest and much needed glow and it's just like once i realized that people don't want to hear or see none of that other [ __ ] they just want to hear you sing mo and they they want to see me in power like now i realized that how the ditties and had the j's they had them how they survived through when the industry shifts and changed you have to put new people in position so i see who's hot i see the artists that are coming up from the herds to the summer walkers to the scissors that's the that's the vibe my daughters love keilani i know who they love so i'm just like reaching out like yo you got a drum with scissors no not with her but see the mutual respect and to see how she came up and then she's in position i was just like i respect that right and from the rappers from the k kilos to the malibu mitch's yeah to the i got souls with them yeah to see i have more souls of rappers as well no i haven't but i've known him since he was burned okay young world we used to when he said the cutouts and my daughter was like can i have the cut out so i respect them i respect how you're moving but i'm a writer too and i'm an artist and i'm censored about my [ __ ] so it's just like you know i respect and people just like yo mo it's good to see you still doing your thing so to the the young artists that are coming up to the lottos like big ladder i reached out and i'm just like yo like i see you doing your thing i saw the girl a lot of them yes the rap was like they are doing she wasn't but then they told me that she changed the big lotto but it's just like to see everyone doing their thing sound muslims one more shot number got one more question then we're gonna get up out of here no it's up it's up um so what is next with normal we're pushing this music okay you going because we literally before we even got here got a call about a reality show and to hear my managers say they always want to dwell on the past and people want to uh say shows they oh we want you to be on the show about heartbreakingness [ __ ] i'm past that if it ain't about this new glow even onto shows i literally turned down and i'mma say this and this is all due respect there are shows that want to i say salute or give flowers they push their movement and they want you to be a part of it but they don't want to pay so it's one thing to promote and to do sit downs but if you want me to perform don't tell me what y'all price you didn't even ask what my price was the bag is up i saw how much rappers baby mothers are getting paid you're not gonna say oh i got five five what am i like what am i gonna do with that what cost five thousand dollars to this day i'm not trying for performance right you're not gonna offer me that [ __ ] i'm not washed you're gonna this is the prices that we set right and you might as well pay it now or pay later cause trust me it's about to run up i know the game this is chess not checkers so don't play with me i am not one of them you're not gonna pay somebody's baby mother that don't have no songs out to come there and and drink but they asked me to come do the same thing and sing that's a separate fee it was a major people who tried to book us it was like we want you to come business this is okay well that's a la carte so that's 10 000 for this 20 000 for that well [ __ ] [ __ ] as soon as i grab that microphone is up i get it but that was a test to see if i would accept the less no you want greater you got to do greater and i realize now you got to work hard now just like i did in the beginning it's like i'm a new artist so people know the whole little more but the new mode the shining star mode that's out now you got to push what you're promoting you got to respect the brand you got to respect the grind you got to respect my work my work ethic right i don't i just now started getting some sleep because of pandemic but i haven't had no sleep in 20 years wow like your family paul bunyan slept after the [ __ ] grew a beer which i shared before i got here you feel me so it's like i'm not sleeping and i know what my hand calls for nobody's gonna play in my face so from the verses they have to be me plus friends because i don't want to battle nobody because when you realize damn she did that when i realized all that i've done i've commemorated all the shows that i've done for free the toys that i've been on and been in the middle of the airport and been like damn i gotta get home and [ __ ] cut you know cut me off in the middle i realized i was always out here i had a couple of people with me but now i have a team you're gonna respect the team javonte tavis he just he from baltimore i saw him grow up as a younger and i like what he said we was just like yo the team my team stay on me did things i do why would you do that what does that have to do with you delete it somebody may have screenshot it but delete it that's not you there's a new you you have to reinvent yourself if you want to go to the next level i reinvented myself and people don't respect it goddamn make some noise thank you we can't we can't think i feel like we're going to close it out but i got to close it out in the shot yeah it's five o'clock somewhere yeah yeah we might as well do this this is amazing because you know how much these shots cost after their goddamn fifty dollars and at first i was afraid of that title because people think legend means old no season season veteran the best food in the world is when you season it and you leave it overnight period purple heart let that season through the [ __ ] let that [ __ ] marinate you in the industry no i ain't asking don't worry nobody can't get bees on the phone no don't worry that cause we're going to take some pictures you're going to do some drops and then you know he might walk out of the escape bubbles you never know it's good is that still open i don't know these cooks you always say that oh [Music] yes you

Channel: REVOLT

Views: 692,087

Rating: 4.8355966 out of 5

Keywords: REVOLT, TV, music, rap, r&b, hip hop, Drink Champs, Lil Mo, NORE, Noreaga, DJ EFN, JA Rule, Murder Inc, Missy Elliott, ODB, Gang Star, Elecktra Records

Id: 2lP_VKQE8aE

Length: 163min 39sec (9819 seconds)

Published: Sat Jul 10 2021