Lil Dicky | Dave, Penith, Brad Pitt, HAHAHA, LeBron James

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your your uh garage is the reason because I my driveway is very narrow as as well and I've destroyed my car on it I totally [ __ ] my car yeah my it's just I'm just not a good driver like I'm not a great driver have you gone into accidents no I I like bumped a man's bumper one time I was just zoned out after a recreational basketball game just replaying everything in my head and I was just like driving like 15 miles an hour and I just like went like right at a guy at the light and he was like what the [ __ ] and I was like there's no excuse like I I really made an error here uh but no damage to the car no I'm just like bad at like like you know how like like I don't know like even though it's the same garage every time I I would be backing into yeah my brain is one of its biggest weaknesses is like spatial awareness so truly I've learned Nothing by like every time it feels like a brand new experience where like I'm trying to learn I don't it's all random guess workor of like and so it's just a waste of time and then I have to get out and it's so embarrassing and the alley it's like it's like an a back alley and like if a car is coming then it's like oh my God and then it takes me likees to even like get like like abandon the idea of backing into it and just like leaving the alley and it's a whole thing so I've just decided you're never going to move your car again well yeah yeah I hope I do cuz I I do still get in my car to review mixes of Music interesting the sound system is incredible in my car so we it serves a purpose it serves a purpose I like going in there and like I sit in I've gotten in the car in the past year to review the mixes um but I just haven't like uh taken it out of the driveway and by the way these are mixes to an album that you've been sitting on for how long uh well I've been sitting on these songs for like it it they all did get finished like relatively recently like a lot of this so basically I just put out an album called penith uh the Dave soundtrack which is an album that consists of songs that have entered my show Dave in some way shape or form over the past three seasons but when they're on the show they're like just protool sessions right when they're exactly they're like just like demo bounces of like unmixed material and you know which you can get away away with on TV cuz like no one's like sitting there listening with like their Studio headphones and it's sometimes it just plays for like 10 15 seconds on the show and uh you know when I do a mix like there's like 15 passes and this I just didn't I can't I don't have the time to deal with that stuff like as I'm producing and making my show so yeah it's been it's been a long time coming um no pun intended uh but uh I'm just you know like interesting some of these songs I wouldn't be comfortable like only like letting them appear in the show for 10 seconds because sometimes there's like a three minute song that no one's ever heard attached to that 10 seconds you heard in the show and I just didn't feel comfortable like just like letting that music just go un listened to so I just thought wow what an interesting thing I can just take a step back when I took a step back and analyze the inventory of songs that have entered the show because when I make music in general I'm not making it necessarily for the show like the show ends I have a few months off and I'm just like man I'm a rapper I got to make music and I just make music and like add to my pile and then it's like oh the show's coming back and like show's about a rapper need music music for the show and I'm like well let's take this this and that and then so like a lot of stuff that I do love like ends up going in the show and I'm still trying to make an album and I took a step back and realized oh my god there you know there is a project here that is like full of songs that I love the common theme being that they've been in the show but why haven't you been able to finish them is it because you're busy doing other stuff or is it because you are the sole person needed to do almost all of it well both I'm definitely the sole purpose person needed to do the if I remember correctly you're perfectionist right you work very much I am but I I am I guess but I don't think that that is the reason to blame for why like literally the TV show I like the amount of time it takes out of my life is is unbelievable like I've always been a hard worker I didn't ever like Envision like something that was that took this much time T is different TV is different you're like on these deadlines like every week I'm handing in episodes like 5 days before they air like I'm live in like week toe survival mode you know what I mean and it's not because I'm a perfectionist it's just like that's how long it takes to make the show great and I'm like writing everything acting and everything scoring everything editing everything so it's like I really am involved in every phase and there's just no so like I can literally be in a world where like for 12 weeks straight seven days a week 15 hours a day I'm working on the show there's just no time to like get in Protools and like you know finish off that verse like it's just not possible so when the writer strike happened really that was when I was able to be like okay like look at all these demos let's actually finish them let's go to Benny and like you know let him add outros and intros to everything and like produce it up and then let's go mix it and master it and finally get that whole thing takes time make music videos for it like I just went to Lithuania and shot like these really I think the best some of the best music videos of my entire career because I don't want to just like put this out and not have like a cool visual attached to it so it just takes a lot of time to properly set up and I didn't have that time till the writer strike but by the way like when you look at it now like and even if you go like a couple thousand feet above it is this beautiful Synergy thing right and I can make that Dave lives like the streaming of Dave lives forever the placement of those songs live forever un yeah unless something crazy like you never know what could happen on this Earth in the sense that aliens could come and okay yeah T's done just like no more TV but I agree it lives forever you're right and music lives forever so it's like that I think there yeah no matter what happens moving forward in life like these things will always like you know yin and yang each other but I also tried to design the album as far as like the sequencing and whatnot to be like if you've never even seen the show like I I would hope that you can still listen to this and appreciate it like those that have seen the show will obviously probably have a higher appreciation for it and that's yeah cuz I watched the entire show I was thinking that when I was listening to the album I was like you don't need to watch the show to understand this album I was lucky that like within songs that have been on the show there's like a really good intro there's like a really good outro there's like really good interludes like I was just lucky that like I had pieces to put together in that way so yeah I designed it uh to you know be for any listener um and I'm proud of it it's just the beginning of the music that I plan on putting out like I I it's like you know like I said the show takes up every second of my time and that's why it's been eight nine years since I've put out a body of work and the reason for it is not because I'm this perfectionist who like is endlessly dabbling It's like because I'm spread so thin with my responsibilities so but I I've the writer strike really allowed me to like get back into music in a way that I just didn't have the opportunity The Last 5 Years and I like fully have fallen in love with it again and I have so much music coming and I just this is like the step back into it so this was genuinely getting out what you've just had sitting there and now you're making new oh yeah every day really oh yeah sick you should see me in there yeah cooking really really at the height of my yeah cooking um working on your magnumopus oh yeah yeah for sure and uh I'm really excited and it's uh you know I when I think about my future like I definitely think the second half of my life is going to be one that is predominantly like movies and film and like I really feel like I'm a filmmaker at heart but music and rapping I feel like now is my time to like in in eight years again I don't know how much people are going to be wanting to hear from me I mean I think I'd hope they' I might have something interesting to say in eight years too but you never know I feel like right now like you know there's a Time window where it's like I'm still young I still like feel like a rapper in my spirit I don't have like I'm not saying you can't feel like a rapper when you're like middle-aged and you can like and it could be cool but like I just feel like now is my time to like finally fulfill the what is Lil Dicky like at its peak like I don't think I've ever answered that question the rapper not like the TV show version of L Dicky are you you looking at Little Dicky as something that is not you or an extension of yourself uh I'm looking at Lil Dicky as like my rap career got it when I say what is Lil Dicky I I mean like what is like independent of this TV show that's successful like you know I've obviously been successful as an artist musically but I but in my heart I'm well aware and I even feel that that my music I this new project helps but like the things I've been able to achieve TV I don't think I've achieved musically interesting but I think I have the capability to do so right well there it is interesting right like you have a real intense social commentary right and Lil Dicky is an energy a Persona a character a an extension of you and your beliefs and or life that is polarizing yet understood by so many and there is this idea of like if like nobody else is doing it why not you right and you take positions that are really how would you describe them well it depends on the position I'm I I mean you look at I mean I dude there's so many there's so many and if biggest difference between the first professional rapper and what we're getting in this last one yeah what do you think the biggest difference is uh if you're asking me I would just say like an evolved level of uh Artistry but really just the way I'm rapping like I don't know like I I've said this in other interviews I've been doing that like if Jay-Z had never heard of me and he's like oh let me go look up little dick Little Dicky and then prior to this moment all he had on Apple music or Spotify or whatever Amazon music like he all he had was uh professional rapper to listen to I'd be like no like don't listen Jay like I just don't think I don't like when I listen back to professional rapper I think the ideas are really great some songs phenomenal other songs I'm like o like and not and just because I don't I've evolved my sound has evolved really it's like I think for me when you say sound is it the stories you're telling or no I think the stories of always been good with me like the ideas have always been it's just the delivery and like the way I'm carrying myself as a rapper like I listen to my old music and I'm like why did I enunciate that that way that's so lame like you know what I mean like but I don't feel that way on anything on this current project like I'm like oh I can play this for someone and I'm not like squirming because like I like feel like my just capability as a I I don't know I just feel like I don't know it's hard to explain but I just feel like this current body of work far more represents where I've evolved to than like professional rapper and then I feel like I have an even further level that no one's heard what parts of this latest album are you taking with you as you make music now when you say taking with you like like what like is there anything you did in this album that is going to carry through with you into what you or I mean it could be Sonics like I mean it could be a production thing it could be a add diction thing it could be a phrasing thing I think all of it I I carry the same like Spirit as far as like you know I still like telling stories I still like but I think like back in the day maybe like if you listen to this album there's some funny stuff on it and I'm not at all saying I'm like over making funny music cuz I think if like I'm just naturally always joking around in life and that's always going to be the case but I think back in the day when I was making even professional rapper it was like in my heart I was like I'm an Undiscovered comedian like who like has a platform now to be noticed for being funny so I need to like make a lot of really splashy funny things like with the hope of like getting the opportunity to make a show like Dave but now that I've made Dave I feel like less uh like I need to do that in every song and more like oh I can just make a song where I'm just like having fun and like not thinking too much about it you know what I mean and like not every song needs to be a strategized like perfect uh concept where like you know normally like every song I made in the past was like well what's the big idea behind the song I don't think other people are making music like every time being like what's the big idea idea here so like now I just like hear a beat that I like I find like a good pocket of the way I rap and then I kind of am more able to just like let it come naturally as opposed to forcing some big Global idea on every single piece of music I make it's and correct me if I'm wrong but like maybe that is like there's Artistry to creating a buzz and or being I'm trying to figure out the right word cuz like what comes to mind immediately is Freaky Friday right like that sh was hit massive idea huge concept and like you got to really listen to the lyrics wrap your mind around what the [ __ ] you were talking about totally like and I to be clear I'm not over Big Ideas like I still like have other big ideas and I think Big Ideas like can yield like massive uh success and like there is like a not many people are doing the big idea thing so it it's it's like a differentiating thing for me but I agree like the I 10 years ago when I would play music for people in a studio and then they'd be sitting there they'd get on their phone and like like reads and and like I'd stop the music and be like wait like you just missed the turn of the narrative of the song and like but that's not necessarily how people want to listen to music like they want to like you know what I mean and like I'm more capable now than ever of just making music that can be absorbed the way that everyone absorbs normal music and how is that like what what mechanics of a song make song by the way Benny blancco is one of the greatest masters of that right like creating I a lot I think just my ability as a songwriter has improved like I think there are like a songs like even on this project like Mr McAdams is a song like that I just think is like perfectly written it is a big idea yes but it's like the verse is the perfect length like every like right before it goes into every hook it's like the perfect way to go into every hook like every the first uh part of every verse feels like a great ENT it's like just perfectly constructed you know what I mean and I don't think I was ever even thinking of construction 10 years ago I was thinking like what's the idea like now let me rap for like 4 minutes straight about it or like you know what I mean there are like exceptions to the rules like freaky frieday is pretty well constructed but um but and you could find the crossover right like you really can yeah I mean that's the ideal like I'm not saying I want to make generic music cuz I think everything I do needs to be infused with like originality and like some sort of unique spin on things but I also just want to like I think it's not that I necessarily am a perfectionist it's I think historically with music Beyond not having time to Simply go record it because of the TV show I think it's a lot more limiting and harder to wrap your head around writing a song when every song needs to be so conceptual totally whereas like now like some of the best things I ever did in my opinion as a rapper are like these sway freestyles which like are just me rapping you know that kind of and I think that that that's what people love too right like I think that's how you Garner a much deeper more passionate Community that's going to stick with you through music and consume albums right not just wait for the big I think gimmick is the wrong [ __ ] word I think like ginormous [ __ ] moment like and I think that's a lot of pressure like how do you create art like that it's yeah and like so that's probably like yeah I was probably doing that more I was like what is my big moment here now I just I don't feel like I need a big moment musically I can just make music that I would like I'm proud of that like oh my God I get to perform this in a night club and feel cool like what a win do you so I feel like like a lot of artists don't have the ability to write songs like J or Harrison EV yeah but do you feel like you can't get that to like a mainstream audience if you're just telling like six minute stories without corus and verses like you know there there is a limitation to like yes the but like I also think when I'm if I'm reviewing like people's like feedback on this project they're all like Harrison AV is my favorite Harris is incredible yeah so it's like and and I'm not saying I'm done making Harris and abs like I think that is something that I I really feel like I am one of the best storytellers in rap and I feel like uh to not do that would be a disservice to my skill set um but I think I just want to be able to I don't really worry about like like I never would I add a hook in the middle of Harrison AV like that's like trying to make it like a catchier six-minute song like I know what it is and I think it's like very relatable and like very interesting and it's a journey that like flies by even though it's 6 minutes you're like wow like I was like gripped for the entire duration of that six minute thing and JL is a 10-minute version of that that's totally different that I like oh my God that song is incredible but um yeah I just I want to make a variety of songs and the thing that I have that I will make next I think will will it can have the Harrison Avenues but I I don't know I just I think I'm just now kind of For the First Time able to approach making music as like a musican and not as like a comedian who's like trying to get a attention mhm when you release a 10-minute song yeah how does that I mean too long what no I think but I think that's real storytelling right like I I I think there's a massive place and massive massive place in culture for it plus a whole in culture for it genuinely is there I mean do you house nerves and how does that even begin do you write it do You Freestyle where varies like I have a few unfortunately 10-minute songs in my catalog and uh like the the song pillow talking yeah is another one that's like an 11 minute song that like they were making the beat in the studio and I just like started freestyling like uh I said like do you [ __ ] with the war like I I just and like I kind of like built like and I was like oh like I could be having a conversation post bed like that came out of like a proper music session where I was like freestyling and like the colel of the idea came from that jail I don't even know where the hell that came from like I I I I I wrote it like for the show um and truthfully there's like it's like even longer like there's more wasn't there a part is there a part two there there's an yeah but like I don't I don't know if it's not finished like you know what I mean but like the the the nine or whatever eight minute version that is on penith is not the whole thing which is shocking um and like there was even more that I wanted to even shoot for the show but there's production limit like we only had so many like so I had to like be like all right how can I tell a version of the story in the amount of hours we had to shoot and it just like ends up but do I have fears of it being too long no I'm like this is so sick but is it like is everything written out like are you just no I don't write I used to a lot of it is like it's not really freestyle but it is it's like I don't really write down lyrics anymore I used to what I used to do was such a dumb thing I used to like get a beat and then like sit and like typ and write the whole thing without recording anything and then I'd go to the mic and then put it on then I'd start doing it and I was like oh my God I don't even like how like I thought I would sound one way in my head when I was writing it but then like oh you actually have to deliver it like at this vocal octave and now the whole thing sucks and I just wasted a whole three days of my life writing this thing that I so to avoid that inefficiency I was like I'm now when I record a song I'm just going to write it as I record it so I sit there and I like write the first line and then I record that first line like I don't write it I just like say it and then like maybe I'll the first half of what I said is good but the way I ended it was bad and then I'll like punch in and Rec finish and then I just inch along and then by the end of it by the end of me recording it it's done how long does it take you to finish something like that a s like jail I was getting like I remember like because I would send Benny like every day like here's the next two and a half it was like two and a half minutes a day so it took like that's crazy and then so took took like 5 days to write jail interesting write and record like you know what I mean like but where do you go to even write something like that like do you have to like what mindset do you have to be in well with jail I knew that I wanted to tell this like I the whole pre I knew that I wanted to do like a season finale that like started in the song that like cut out back to reality where and I'm pitching this ridiculous idea to a record label as my first single and then we thought about the and I literally interviewed a few people who were in jail and asked them so what would it actually be like if I went to jail and like that's why like it's really detailed if you listen to the song like all the steps like they get like there's all these steps that like are true to how it would have gone and like the whole thing about like the blacks or the Mexicans like literally like that was from an interview where I was like so what would I do they're like well you'd need to pick like a side and I was like what do you mean a side they're like you'd have to like go with like the black blacks or the Mexican this is their words the black and I was like the blacks are the Mexicans and and then I was like but like that's my like why and then they were like well all the white people are like white supremacists and you're Jewish like all that stuff came from like the interview that like was sprinkled into the song that's interesting approach but also really informative and really different yeah I didn't want to just totally make details up about Jail off the top of my head I wanted to like actually talk to people who have been to jail um now of course it gets crazy and absurd and I'm like biting a guy's dick off by the end but I I wanted to I just wanted to approach it like you know the I think the details are what makes the song so interesting what are those interviews like what do you learn from them besides what it's like to be in jail uh that's I mean I just I learn I just learned the ins and outs of like the process and you know just really I just learned the facts at hand of like what I mean of course it's probably way different when you're actually in that of way different when you're actually going to jail you know what I mean but I just learned the fact like how it would work I learned how I'd be able to get just even the trial process I talked to them about and like I tried to talk to a lawyer about like well what like what you know I tried to it's a little over the top at times of course Very over the top at times but I didn't want it to be a complete farce logistically but you've also acknowledged throughout this journey that you WRA from a place of privilege right you you do yeah and I think there is I mean I don't know like uh what does that really mean for the art you put out well just in general you know I've lived a very privileged life and we try to and I'm in an art form where most of the people that are in it are significantly less privileged and they you know people have been through a lot more than what I've been through um we try to address you know my whole career has kind of been like addressing that and but especially we try to hit it hard in the show you know I mean there's a lot of episodes that explore like topics and themes in a way that like an ironic satirical rap song could never you know what I mean like I think that's what helps with the show is it gives really context behind all these things because it it shows like there is like a thoughtfulness and uh more than just like a privileged white guy like making jokes you know what I mean like uh but all I can do at the end of the day is like try to like be myself and uh when I think of like you know uh what a culture vulture is it's like you know Ste feeling something and like trying to be something they're not to Capital and I just never feel like I'm really trying to be anything I'm not you know what I mean I try to be like of course I'm being like over the top absurd funny but that's how if we were having a conversation I would be over that's like in my spirit to be like a joke maker um so yeah what are you thinking well I just want to talk about haaha yeah what does the Joker why do you want to play The Joker in that music video and how like how does that connect everything well I don't even necessarily view it as the Joker I view it as like a dark clown um and well you know the song first off I love that song so I knew I wanted and that's an example of like you know 10 years ago I'm not going to make spend a million of my own dollars to make a music video for like essentially a 4minute verse that has no potential to be like a pop hit that like isn't funny is that how much you spend on that yeah well it's amazing so it makes sense yeah I spent so much money on it but I love it and I also proud it I I couldn't be more proud of it and I also that includes that I love myself video and the intro scene like you know what I mean it's like a whole little like short film there's actually I just put out an 11 minute and 30 second version where it's all put together but that's what I mean by like now I feel like I can like the hahaas of the world are my favorite kind of music that's like no big broad big idea it's just like me like wrapping over a beat that like really pumps me up and I'm just like essentially like talking my [ __ ] over a 4-minute verse the hook obviously bookends it and it's like hahaa that's a joke so I always knew that like if there was a video and I've always like wanted to like play uh a like a dark clown like for whatever reason just my whole life I've wanted to play that type of character so I just thought why I don't know I can't tell you that I don't know I just I I've always I there's something about like a I have a picture in my house of like a sad clown like looking at a flower then like there's like bleakness to it but optimism and I've always related to that image I don't know why and I'm not sad are you sure yeah I think so I mean I I wake up every day in a pretty good mood uh that's good I think there is a constant restlessness to me but um restlessness to do what though like what what do you think cures that I don't know what would what would what would cure it maybe kids will cure it I don't think I don't think that anything will cure it though I think that's just kind of like who I am and it's just how you manage that restlessness moving forward do you okay cuz how do you manage it I mean something you learn every day right yeah it's I'm still learning but like you know you would like does work help fix it look I would say this I I'm globally the second day of the TV show like got on TV and like that dream was realized like there is a shift in the restlessness as far as like I felt like I'm I made it like everything I dreamed of doing is now has just occurred that being said there's always more you always want more like you know I'm and the last thing I did was make an episode with [ __ ] Brad Pit and Drake you know what I mean and it's like they're really like you can't get any higher than that we were literally talking about that when we were preparing for all this today but like I I also and that's kind of the premise of the actual episode Brad Pit telling me like until you love yourself that you'll never uh like be able to love anyone else and it's like there is like an endless validation Loop that could occur that I'm aware like no amount of success award words views anything will actually make like you can always have more like the only thing that would actually potentially maybe cure that restlessness is like Universal respect from every human being on Earth that will never exist you know what I mean like you'll never have like every single human being being like the way Dave sees himself is exactly the way I see him every single person on earth is on the same page that's you found PE that's the only way to find peace for me so I'm aware that's never going to happen so I have to find peace other ways which you know as time goes on and life goes on I would be helpful to that I can find it and yeah are you dating oh my God I'm I'm like fully I found the one we just bought a house together the house you can't get out of house you can't get out of car garage no it's a new house bigger garage oh but they got to they got to decorate the whole and like you know we're knocking down a few things so it's like in construction musle yeah so but I'm still stuck in that old garage but like yeah I'm like I've met the dream woman I've all like it's such a a amazing thing Kristen Kristen yeah you guys got to meet her how did you meet her I met her through the head writer one of the head writers of my TV show um is a woman named Vanessa and I was always asking her I was like you gotta you know I was just like endlessly online dating and like not meeting anyone that I wanted to really to me I was like if I'm not meeting my wife if if you're not my wife like it's not worth like because I was so busy um and then Vanessa was friends with Kristen and inro she was like oh my God because Kristen was in a relationship for like five years prior to meeting me so she was like never I was gonna say a free agent but she was never so she was never a free agent uh and then she broke up and then Vanessa was like oh my God I totally the Kristen like you guys are a good match and then I met Kristen bowling and we [ __ ] and then the pandemic happened like right then and then we were forced to like kind of hang out all the time just us and it was like you know PE my mom always said like your view of love is so so ridiculous like it's all about meeting the right person at the right time and I think my mother was right in this instance because the pandemic like forced me to like slow down and like give a relationship a real shot and it's like truly ideal I've never had like a bad day with like every day she's like the funniest most beautiful most Charming like person ever oh Dave it's great that's congratulations thank you yeah that's really special so that box is checked off so like I'm not like I would have be double the Restless if I was still single man being like and where is she like that would have so like I've checked off that box and that does feel good um but even that there's still a restlessness in me so it's like and then I think like well maybe kids will solve a restlessness but I don't think they will I think there I think there are just certain people that are wired Restless you need that but but a part of that but by the way you can say that the restlessness is a part of why you're successful right oh yeah like that's it is a motivating factor 100% yeah like I have to try to combat it with ambition um but I don't want to live a life where I like am head down working for like five years straight and succeeding and then feeling like like I haven't like Advanced at all as a human being like there there you know what I mean like that's kind of how I felt lately like where like the show has taken up every minute minute of my time and like I just looked up and like three seasons have been made like and what is like I feel like I got I was it's been a black hole to an extent you know what I mean yeah um you don't feel like you've Advanced as a person uh I have but I mean you have to have learned things that you could never have like dude like to to to pull off an episode of a TV show is a big deal to do a season is a big deal to do three seasons yeah I and like the show fortunately is about me and about my life to the point where like literally I'm in the writer's room like it's like a therapy session like I'm just like saying well here's what I think about and they're like well like and then they're teaching me that things I don't even know about myself like so I do in that way for sure and I grow I've grown in ways yes but like I also I just don't believe that you should spend every single moment of your life just like you know every moment working and working on one thing and it's like like even getting when the writer strike happened getting a chance to get back into music I was like oh like now music isn't like this burden where I'm like trying to get noticed for uh like it's I'm working so hard to get noticed as a comedian you know what I mean like now it's like more or it's there's just different experiences what is your day like now how are you how are you working are you working alone do you go to a studio uh I'm working alone in my studio but I I I'm starting to consider the idea of bringing an engineer in and because I used to do that and I imagine it would be helpful every other artist does it yeah um I just it's it's weird to like rap in front of another person you know what I mean and uh who do you feel comfortable rapping in front of well now there's this man Miggy that I met who mix the whole project and I just love migy um so I would consider like you know working with migy and he's like you know a great mixer engineer everything um but like even Benny like if I'm like working with Benny we make a beat and I want to Freestyle over it I'll make Benny leave the room and that's my best friend on earth like I couldn't feel more comfortable with him like but I'm not like going to be able to like just I just feel weird like rapping like look at listen to how I'm talking right now like that's how I communicate that's how I talk like I would feel so uncomfortable to just bust out into rhyme right now but that like what turns on in you like is it a switch and yeah I guess yeah I don't know it helps to smoke weed interesting for that so almost every time you go to a studio so my process is this if you're interested oh yeah beats are coming in all over the place I don't think I don't think there's a single rapper who has accumulated more beats in in their Dropbox folder than me over the course of the last decade like I I like I find the producers I love the most and every month I'm like you got anything new and I'm just like always getting a new stuff take these beats put them in prot tools smoke weed get high lose my inhibitions for a second freestyle over these beats gibberish none of it makes sense sometimes I'll say something that's interesting like sometimes I'll say like uh that's a joke or like you know whatever and like a colonel was born but like often times I'm just trying to find my attitude my Cadence like my sound my swag record like 20 takes of freestyles to it hi and I don't I wish I didn't have to be high but it does help and maybe I don't have to be high and I haven't given my chance like myself the chance to like attack it not high all I know is that I do feel Freer and less like like me that guy talking to you now when I am high and then in the morning I wake up and I listen to all that data and I start chopping the best parts out and then moving it and being like well this is a great way to enter reverse and then so you decipher through it sober but you capture it high capture it high decipher it so sober like 9:00 a.m. I'm it's like you know Peak yeah Peak sober like 15 milligram Aderall time release just hit like two screens up and I get organized that way and it takes me the problem why I think I need to start involving an engineer is like I'm so bad at Protools like I know how to do like the Baseline floor of like what needs to be done to create a demo but like even like there like taking a chunk that I recorded and like moving it like like I know that like engineer would like be able to do it in a way that's like it automatically shifts to like the right part in time to the beat but like I don't know how to do it that way so like I'm taking it and dragging it and then it's like offbeat and then I'm like nudging it to like get it on the right part of it like there's like all types of efficiencies that I'm not doing by not having an engineer but I feel like by the way it's the smart investment and the smartest people know what they don't know yeah right and like you know that you don't know Pro Tools so I don't know Pro Tools but I know enough to be able to create to do to to achieve it I just think I could achieve it maybe Faster by involving someone else but like I also like like being in control of like I get that of the and like knowing where the things are and like I like I like I don't want him to be like wait did you lose that one take that like I kind of only knew there was one little part in it that was like it's like you just open yourself up to that type of thing uh but I think anyway so I it's really interesting and then I yeah and then I you know I and then I'll write the rap based on the data that I've collected like you know I'll try to like make a little outline of like gibber like I'll take the best gibberish and the best structure and like organize it and then I'll try to write to that gibberish structure I don't know that this is the best way to make music I'm not it works for me um I think it part of me wishes I could do it much like more laid-back and not so like it's like I feel like I'm approaching it like an essay where it's like finals week you know what I mean and that and so I I'm always kind of looking to feel like is there a better way to do this um but it does work for me and it does do guarantee like I I call it the no stone unturn method like the reason I do this gibberish freestyling and pick the best parts is because I just know that way that I've like explored everything to its fullest ability and like found the best sounds and pockets and things that I could do and yes I could probably try writing it without doing that and maybe it would be successful and much faster maybe I should try it that way but why if it's not but why I agree but I don't know I'm torn because I like I'd like to evolve my process too I don't want to be just stuck in my ways of like doing I do it this one way yes it works but it's I'm I'm torn because the way I do it works and it guarantees success but I also think it is a lot of like just logistical work that other artists like are not dealing with they're just like in there being free and like I imagine like thinking less and like the more I can think less making music I think the more interested I am in that style of music I do think you can find a balance and I've not seen many people make albums but my friends that I have seen make albums are very very very in control of how it works and like they like I don't know they're in a studio working and they call in an engineer when they need an engineer you know yeah maybe that's yeah you can find a balance where you still control I'm building a new studio in my new house and sick once that new studio is and by the way the studio yeah it's like I'm so excited and once that's built I will feel like oh this is a new studio let's try something new whereas now I'm just like in this place that I've been for the last 5 years like that's been working and I've made all these great songs there I'm just like what's it's let's not disrupt the flow but I think I'm being forced to enter a new like here's an example of something breeds new like I am working on like a version of Pro Tools that is like eight years old that that can't even exist on new MacBooks and like new Apple products that you buy so like my computer is out of dis space that I use and I and like it's slow and like it it like buffer and it's like I need a new computer but if I get a new computer it means I have to use a new version of Protools and you don't know that and I don't know that like I don't know and it like looks a little different like I've seen it and I'm like oh no like you have to have faith in yourself you can learn it I know but it I know but like I that's one thing that like really gives me anxiety is like learning new well I agree the right engineer will teach you too no I need to you're definitely should like hire an intern well yeah well somebody yeah somebody who an intern who knows it yeah a lot of everyone knows it everyone knows how to work the new you know what I mean like but I just see it and I'm like wait a minute like the colors are different of like the interface like I'm not used to it being black I'm used to it being gray like I the the first album I made this is crazy like I made a lot of professional rapper in garage band and I did it on my like it built in like what your MacBook pro has and I didn't even know about the grid if you know what the grid is like every song has a BPM like 120 and like you enter that so that way when you like edit the beat you're like being exact and like it like it's hard to I mean I think you know what I mean know talking about but I didn't even know that I'm like in I'm in music with like no I'm not working with other people so like I would like edit the beat to like just the way I hear it like I would like be like oh this is where the kick drum is I'll just like go right there and I'll cut it and then I'll drag over this thing and so that when we started mixing my first album and it all gets moved to Protools everything was off grid and it took an engineer like a week to like nudge everything because I did so many edits that were and so I didn't even know about the grid why do you think professional rapper was successful uh I think the ideas were like new and fresh and uh you know I I I think it was like kind of like an introduction to like my brand of creativity you know what I mean you know I had something out before that that was more I put music out to like gain a fan base but this was the professional rapper was like the first time I like started working with like Snoop Dogg and like other artists and it was like very legit you know what I mean and I think it was a combination of like my creativity mixed in with like a totally legitimate production and like legitimate features even though a lot of it was made on garage band yeah a lot of it was yeah yeah it's just the right core ideas you know like I think there was a lot of great ideas in professional rapper and I always try to speak for my heart at all times so I think you you feel that and it's like kind of a unique product like I don't think I have any competitors as far as like if you're interested in what I have to offer like you're not going to get it anywhere else when you start making a song do you know what story you want to tell or do you just let the story kind of shape as you go I know what story I'm going to tell in fact I'll probably outline the story and I won't like yeah I'll probably like be like if this is a story about you know Harrison AV which is based on a lot of true events I'll be like okay here is the flow of the details and I'll just have a Word document and I'll just like literally go down it's a better way to do it what are you thinking when you were talking about just like Freestyle and picking out the best parts I was thinking like that's is that what happened with Kareem Abul Jabar cuz you first debuted that line in the sway Freestyle right yeah I did I did freestyle that like even before like I had a show and before I was making a show build around K Abdul Jabar like I don't know why the hell I said kareim there are certain things I say when I freestyle that I'm like why do I keep saying that like for example I'm sure that was one of them uh I I say like I don't know why I've never been there but I for whatever reason now when I'm freestyling I find like when I'm chopping up the data the next day I find that I keep saying Puerto Viera I don't even know where that is I don't even know if that's a real place I think it is a real place just it's so I guarantee you that there will be a song released at some point where I say Puerto Viera and it just comes out of absolutely nowhere a city in Mexico yeah so I got to get down to PTO to understand what it is I'm talking about and then before moving forward yeah CRA I got to go there do a day trip and just take NS I mean you tend to learn about what you write about yeah I give you a lot of credit like I have a deep appreciation for anybody who wants to be a student of anything right like I really do like that's knowledge is the most valuable thing in any situation and uh yeah go [ __ ] do a little research trip to Mexico yeah I probably will I think it's you know a lot a lot of gays down there I think I'm ready yeah I'm ready to meet everybody I'll take notes along the way and yeah I'm excited about the music I have moving forward is super exciting to me how is it I mean I want to hear it because I want to know what's different and how it evolves from what we it's just constant Evolution constant it's just better and better and better uh time will tell it's hard to describe it's like describing a food like you know like how do you describe chicken how could you describe it you're right so what is your release schedule and what do you think works today in music uh well don't ask me cuz it's been like N9 years since I've released so like I don't and it is a different animal like nine years ago crazy when I put out professional rapper like I was able to put out music videos that are getting like hundreds of millions of views on YouTube it's like YouTube is different it's like things aren't getting the same views on YouTube Tik Tok is now a thing that I'm like really uninvolved with and like don't know anything about that I need to like understand so I I think it is different but I think I don't know I I haven't the release schedule is unfigured out for moving forward like I think I'm going to take time and think about how I would approach like rolling out an like the next project and like what that looks like but at the end of the day if you're making creative [ __ ] it's going to be seen are you sitting on songs that you believe are right for this next project yeah how many well I I don't know I definitely have at least like I can't tell you that answer I really don't know cuz like as time goes on like I have songs that like I know need to be in the world in some way but and and they will be but I don't know what like I I I reserve the right to see like maybe the best version of that next album is to not have every one of those songs that I know that deserves to be out there but like the six of those that like really fit the vibe of whatever that next thing is and like the six new songs I make that are undiscovered today in time that tied like I'm really kind of in an experimental phase right now where I am figuring out what I want that next project to be like you know it's easy to just make songs that I like and then like put all the songs that I like on a project but I think I want to be more thoughtful than that this next go round I'm excited and then maybe this yeah the song I I'm figuring it all out in real time what was the last song he made for this penth uh I don't know that answer I do know that probably the last uh it would have to be whatever I made in between Seasons two and three I did this I added a the second verse to Ali song is the most recently recorded material like that second verse didn't exist when we made the show I I I thought because I know people like were asking for that song and I was like well here's the thing the only thing that exists is one verse of the song and I just wanted people to get more than what they thought what they've already heard sometimes so I I thought that a song that everyone really wanted let's give them a second verse so I wrote that second verse like few months ago what is it like to pick up a song like that and finish it fun easy that song yeah you had to get back into the head space yeah I was I I view it as a an a privilege because I'm able to like Infuse more like the more contemporary things are the more they're blessed by present day me the better they are so the more I can add present day me to anything the more satisfied I'll be because I'll respect it the most because I'm not regressing I'm only progressing yeah it's representative of where you're yeah how about going gray that's a song that's like DN that really hits you you're like you don't think your parents can die and one day they may or they will actually because we all die yeah no that's uh that is a yeah it's a it's a song about aging it's a I literally I think two about a year or two ago two years ago I looked at myself in the mirror and even this morning I looked at myself in the mirror not knowing that we were going to have this conversation I just see more grays in this part of my beard than I've ever seen before and I was like oh my God I'm fading away and dying and and I was like and I was just like I just want to make a song about aging like you know I think that everyone can relate to that and yeah well the line you said who will tell me how to live my life I think about all the all the time like I'm 33 and I call my mom all the time asking her how to work the washing machine what to do with my like garbage disposal breaks it stressed me out even putting that in the song like the thought of like like I'm I have such OCD about my parents dying it like it really like I the thought of it like wrecks me and then the thought of like ever like having to like perform or hear that part of a song after they die one day even though they can't die they'll never die not allowed to let's be clear on that they'll live forever because we'll figure out the technology by the time that they would have died and they'll live forever but it's stressful sometimes thinking about like oh my God I don't want to hear this right now but I think it like there's a connect what I found truly like I feel as though like I said I feel like the show has definitely surpassed Lil Dicky the rapper Standalone of the show um but for whatever reason when I'm approached on the street I'm shocked at how often people are like Lil Dicky not Dave they're like Lil Dicky like I love your music man like there and I think there's something about music that can connect with the human soul in a way that not even a TV show can not even like you can do it and there's moments in the show that are really emotionally compelling for sure but something about music has like a different connectivity that can't be offered elsewhere and I think something about my music is like particularly relatable to a particular group of people that I I a song like that connectivity is like why I do it like I love being able to in like inspire people and make them feel a certain way and make them feel like they can do anything in life and that's the main Joy I get out of doing it music is incredibly intimate and people feel understood by music when you choose to share reality right like yeah there's an immediacy to it that I don't think you know with a show like you have to like you get watch six minutes before you even know what's going on and like you know it's like a whole journey with the music it's like the second the going gray beat plays the first four bars you're like immediately like you imagine like you're in a car driving down the road and looking out the window as time's passing you by like there's just something music does in that way do you go there mentally when you're making it or no yeah I can't I'm a you human being I hear yeah I like hear a beat and I like that going gray beat I didn't I wasn't like on the hunt for I need a some body of music to to say a song about getting older and I am sometimes like I did like I I was on the hunt for a beat that would be a perfect Chris Brown body switch song you know what I mean like I was on the hunt for that beat but like with going gray I heard that beat and I was like this is an incredibly emotionally like resonant beat that like for whatever reason makes me think of like Nostalgia and like time Passing Me By and I think that I think I freestyled over it and like probably like came up with the idea of like getting older and then I was like oh a song about getting older is interesting and then it's got to be this beat because this is like the body of Music takes my brain there it's so hard is it even interesting what I'm saying yeah it's really but also like a hard topic to cover it's like very hard but I feel like you know but it's life and that's why people feel understood by it right yeah by the way listen to the album you can listen to it on Amazon music we're going to put a Link in Link in the description below what are you thinking do you care about the reaction to your music because in honestly you say I don't care what the ebros think yeah so who are you looking to I guess satisfy or what kind of reaction are you looking for and from who uh I care and I don't care um as long as I feel as though I've put my best foot forward and really the thing I care the most about are like are fans of mine who are naturally inclined to be fans of mine like [ __ ] with it like and you never want to make music just for fans like but if I'm satisfied and then my hardcore fans are satisfied I think that's a good spot to be in but it varies like and I'm I'd be lying like I said that in a moment in the song and I was happy I said that cuz I felt like defiant when I said that but like it's in part not true I probably do care what like erro you know what I mean like I don't want to care but like I like I said I want like I have this endless drive for like to be loved which I think like comes from the root of everything with like a lot of comedians probably start as a guy people that want to make the people closest to them laugh and and why because like when they make them laugh they feel loved and like I think that at the core of everything I do is probably like like I I don't feel insecure like on a global level I carry myself with like an unheard of confidence but maybe there is this like deeper insecurity within me that like just wants Universal love and respect and I'm sure there is I know there is I wonder if you wrote about that H would did you ever or is that not a part yeah I mean I feel like I touch I like I have been writing on it but like yeah I would touch on anything that feels true damn what what was the decision like to put yourself on the cross on the album cover or not the cross the tea in penis the te yeah not much of a decision I was like honestly I was like what would I even want to call that I was like let's honestly just like piggyback what my character did in the show which is like he put this out that's what the art looked like in the show I love the way that looked visually I didn't really put I was just like this works for it there really wasn't much thought Beyond like the initial thought I put in when I did it actually in the show yeah I mean it works fits there perfectly I want to know how little dick is going to evolve like that's what I'm interested in I want to know what the music you're making now because this is this is a this is the soundtrack to Dave which is [ __ ] phenomenal and you really should listen to it and you should also watch the show yeah you can grab three seasons on Hulu right hard to do but even harder to make a show when you're dealing with the biggest celebrities in the world and you have constant guest stars or does that make it easier the guest stars make it easier yeah harder or easier harder yeah I mean it's the ultimate dream but like you know doing a Met Gala episode where you got to get like 11 different people in the room that and all their schedules line up and like then one of them's like ah I can't do it now and like then everything has to you know what I mean like how'd you pull that off it's so hard it's one of the hardest parts of the show is like and like it's easier now season 3 to like we're to it's crazy like we're at the place where like literally we reach out to Brad Pit and he's like yeah like you know like that's which is great but like season one when it's not even made yet and I'm like saying to like YG like trust me the show is going to be great like I'm not going to name names but there have been plenty of times several times where we've written episode scripts we've been on set waiting for the rapper to come and he never even comes and we have to like redo the episode plot like on the spot and like adapt and like like that happens still um so it's super hard to it's crazy the celebrity like component of it but it's really cool and like I think it's a differentiating factor with my show and it lets us play like in real the thing that I love the most about the celebrity thing is like you have characters that you're able to bring into the show that don't need setup like we know who Brad Pit is we know who Rachel McAdams is we know who Drake is they're not like Greg like enter Greg like parentheses like 30 like white like Ambi you know what I mean like we don't have to like spend time building up their characters because pop culture has been building up these characters for the last decade that's what I was wondering because you have like the show is based on a core group but then the recurring the the every episode almost has somebody right and that's where the that's the extended cast like that's the featured guest AR or what however you phrase it but it's it's the hardest part but if I'm being honest it's the most validating part like I I to nothing has been talk about things that have like calmed restlessness momentarily like Brad Pit being on set and like listening to me and like like I'm giving him Direction he respects me the same way he was would respect like Tarantino and like him seeing me in a way that's like I'm a real filmmaker like Drake the guy that like I've idolized forever like not only acknowledging my existence but being like I [ __ ] with you so hard that I want to be a part of this that's like the dream LeBron James who hasn't been in the show but like bringing me on the shop and being like I love your show here's why and like I'm looking at LeBron like in reality and he's like so HD in front of me and he's really like telling me about what he loves about what I've done is so satisfying like to like have the respect from your Idols is the best feeling does that make creating easier or harder easier because you feel like it's not all for not I know you shouldn't make things for the approval and it's it's it's a contradiction of like I'm trying to get to a place where I don't need LeBron james' validation to feel successful but I'd be lying if I said like when I first put out music or Dave or anything where I'm like is LeBron ever going to see this like does LeBron like me like it's a real feeling that I had like and I think when LeBron truly like followed me on Instagram which is we did a whole episode like centered around LeBron following me on Instagram this season and when he followed me in real life and like dm' me like was like love Dave like I felt like I made it now I had made it prior to that moment like I'm living my dream I'm making a show about the story of my life but you think to yourself like is it you like is this being respected the way I want it to be respected is it did you really like wonder when you were making this like will Braun ever see it will really yeah in a way isn't that like a little manifestation I guess I don't know what it I I think it's a little pathetic I'm being honest with you I'm not like proud that my head goes there and I don't think it's a a sustainable way to live life like I don't want to be like pouring my heart and soul into my next into like the first movie that I like write and direct and star and think like this is for LeBron's approval it's not the way to live life you know and I don't and luckily I don't I don't tailor things like I'm not thinking like like LeBron might think this part is not good like I'm not thinking that way that I do make things that are true to my heart but you want the things that you put out there to be like loved and respected by like culture and like the people that you love and respect because all I've done is grown up seeing guys like Drake put out music that inspire me and I know how much like it means to be inspired by like people that are people that I look up to so to hear that they're inspired by me and like that that's like the ultimate feeling of success you know it's is it pathetic crazy no it's beautiful actually I think it's really special I think a lot of people think that way they just afraid to admit it yeah but also validation from your hearing is validation from the people that you respect the most like real recognizing real is something I believe and like to get that from somebody that you've learned from and or have been shaped as a human by like [ __ ] that's that's everything but in some cases like could either Propel you forward or make you second guess every step you take I think you're right and the key to it is to not get just not live your life waiting for the approval of anybody to to find happiness like it can make you happier in the moment but I don't like I said I'm not trying to put out whatever I do next whenever I do it and just sit there waiting for Drake to text me and be like I liked it you know like it's just not the right way to live but if he sends a message it'd be cool it'd be great but we're not going to live and die on that Hill no you know we're going to put our best foot forward and we're going to we're going to enjoy the way the breeze hits the trees as I walk around we're going to like look at the way the light comes through the window sill and the Dust is floating and we're going to like experience happiness in that moment right it's giving little things yeah that's nice yeah you guys don't have to pee at all like it's just me no well listen to penis it's waiting for you on everywhere you stream music but you can grab it on Amazon music final thoughts two questions real quick one are you even thinking about a season 4 or are you thinking about the next album or whatever you're making truly right now it's like I the I'm so in this head space of like I'm a rapper I'm making music every day like I've been having like one foot in one foot out as a rapper due to the show for a while and I'm just like really lucky that I have this moment right now where like all I'm able to focus on music so like I'm sure this you know the story of my life goes on and it will like but I'm just like I need to like take the time to focus on things because I think this is the right word bifurcating my brain I don't know if that's the right word word splitting my brain won't yield the best results like there I'm in a different head space when I'm on set being the executive producer lead writer of a TV show that I am like in the studio like like trying to figure out the best Legacy I can have as a raer and like my you know the the my girlfriend who like I met when the show came out like hasn't even seen me do a live show like I haven't even performed live with G who like we've been we've gone on tour for five years before the show I haven't gotten to see like and like G always walks on stage first as my man and he would get like a little round of applause cuz like it means the show's starting but I've never even gotten the chance to see g walk on stage and everyone knows G and like he like it's you know what I mean like my girlfriend looks at me and thinks like it's hard not for her to think that I'm an actor playing a rapper in a show totally yes she knows I make music but it's like she's never seen me on stage at a festival like it's real like I really do have a music career and I really am a rapper and I really am scratching the surface on my potential [ __ ] yeah so like that's the type of thing where like I just want to act on it and not like look back at regret and be like I just never gave it my all so like right now I'm just so focused on music but I really feel like even though I've been at it for 10 years like which is crazy to think about like I've been putting out stuff for 11 plus years um I feel like I'm at the beginning of my career so much it's really sparkling water sparkling water yeah of course uh but sorry about that but I just think like everything that I've done has been like a setup for what's to come and I see myself as like primarily like a filmmaker aour like even when I like I first when I came into this I was like I'm a comedian I'm Larry David I'm Seth I never even thought of myself as like a director or like a filmmaker and now like I look at like I like Ben Stiller who's like was the ultimate comedy lead for a while and now he like makes like escape from d Amur like that and it's amazing like I want to do that type of [ __ ] you know and I and there's so much I want to do and there's so and I'm still I just feel like I have like endless potential and I just want to do all these things while also living life and not being bogged down by like one particular thing at one time by the way you you do have endless potential and I got to say like I feel like you came on our show for the first time it has to be close to 10 years ago like eight years ago 9 years ago and I don't know how far you were along with that TV show the time or what stage it was but you manifested the living [ __ ] out of that on our show yeah manifested the living [ __ ] out of that and then like many years later it comes to fruition 2015 yes it'll be 10 years next year yeah you're right and I plan on I think yeah man I do believe in manifestation um you haven't age to day I feel like I look the exact same you do like when I shaved for the hahhaa video and I looked at myself in the mirror clean shaving I was like oh my God I could play 23 I could be a 23-year-old in a movie no problem and I was like so pleased by it the only thing that's different is there's a little bit of gray a little bit of gray we can we can spray that out and we can just shave it really easy yeah yeah um the one other followup I had to that sorry I keep talking but do you ever think about in 40 years when you're a filmmaker that people know you by Dave bird and not Little Dicky anymore I do and I have no problem I mean I used to be like when people would be like yo Dicky like love you LD like but now I like like it cuz it's like oh like they still love my music you know like so but I do think ultimately yes like when we look back in time and it's 40 years from now and I've done everything I think you will look at me having a career that started in music but it's primarily a movie- based career and a film-based career um where Dave bird the name carries uh wait the way like you know when I look right now I look at people like uh Jordan Peele and like gret Gerwig and I'm like I like those these are aour that like get have the right to tell the stories that they want to tell at a given point in time and they have the right taste to make the best thing possible I want to be one of those so are you working on those but I also need to remind myself not like that that I do love making people laugh and I love being funny and as much I want to make escape from danam MOA this hyper serious like incredibly shot thing about people escaping from jail like there are only so many people that can make the next great comedy like and I feel like comedy in general as in especially in movies is like dying or something like I can't like back when I was a kid and being formed Jud appow was coming out with like [ __ ] smashes every year and like that was what I always wanted to do what I always imagin doing and then like I just got into it and then you know I've evolved with like season one when I was making my show I wasn't like thinking about like well how do I feel about like the way the set matches the Wardrobe and the way the frame and like I wasn't thinking like with that aesthetic in mind I was thinking like how do I make something real truthful and funny as [ __ ] and now I really care about all those little things to the point where like you look at season 3 and you look at like the episode where we're trapped in a hurricane and like we're in like the South just looks like an a24 movie and like there's like a different aesthetic that I aspire to dude Geniuses and nuance and but I like I said like I I need to also remember that like one of my biggest strengths in life is making people laugh and I need to not not abandon that along my way to like like artistic greatness they can both happen in Tandem and also music is very much a part of the journey it is a part of the journey and and music can take multiple forms I I maybe I say like oh maybe I won't be making music in 10 years but maybe I will maybe I'll still be making rap music about like what it's like to have kids kids maybe I'll be making a Broadway show you know like I don't know I have a lot of musical love and talent that I want to explore I just I I don't really I I don't really know what exactly the future holds I just know that there are a lot of different mediums I want to get involved in and grow in and learn in you're like the Rock and Dwayne Johnson wow you know yep that's it he went from The Rock to Dwayne Johnson he revisits The Rock he goes I love nothing makes me happier than seeing the rock who can be in any Blockbuster he wants but he still takes the time to get back in the ring and like cuz he knows that's where he came from and he know and I love the rock growing up like the rock my favorite I used to be a huge wrestling fan watch Like The Rock was definitely my favorite wrestler of all time I don't watch wrestling anymore but when I see like on Instagram The Rock getting back in the ring I'm like [ __ ] yeah the rock yeah yeah gives you chills exactly modern day Rock right there cool for now we listen to penis and uh we watch Dave Link in the description for for both of those things go pee I really appreciate you coming and hanging out thanks for having me I will go pee and I don't know who's responsible for it in my green room there is soap with little Dicky on it and I just want you to say I appreciate those kind of details oh they're going to love you you know about that so yeah of course genius is in the details yeah exactly that's the type of thing that I I'm into is like that type of detail we we live in it yeah I really appreciate you giving us time forever really [ __ ] I've always loved you I appreciate you having me on and I'll be here the next time I'm doing something thank you Dave yeah Little Dicky Dave everybody woo thank you guys appreciate it

Channel: Zach Sang Show

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Length: 68min 37sec (4117 seconds)

Published: Tue Jan 30 2024