Liberating the Mind & Taking Charge of Your Destiny – Aubrey Marcus Interviews Sadhguru

mind is very simple for me because if you take away your attention it just dies california may be beautiful but people can be in hell isn't it within themselves in their experience in their homes in their situations they can create help for themselves everybody must do a little bit of engineering within themselves to see that being peaceful and joyful is not a challenge once this happens your intelligence will function in a completely different way [Music] thank you for sitting down here so i want to jump right in and there's a quote from yogananda he says you can control a mad elephant you can walk in water and live in fire but control of the mind is better and more difficult and i've certainly found that for myself i spend so much time wrestling with my mind i hardly have the energy to dance with life why is it so hard for us to manage our mind as people i'm have i have no such problem because i lost it long term when you don't have it you don't have to control it you know because it's a very uh very important notion that people think intelligence is somewhere here this is a living cosmos it's an intelligent cosmos we are just tiny one tiny product minuscule product and now we think we have so much intelligence and we have to control it manipulate it use it i have no such issues i gave it up long time ago so uh mad elephant i wouldn't want to control because i've seen them what they can do mind is very simple for me because if you take away your attention it just dies if you keep your attention and try to control it that's crazy so why is human mind an issue your mind is just an antenna not the source of intelligence intelligence is everywhere unfortunately people who deprived of basic ease in their life i've described the source of creation or they say god is peace those who deprived of love in their life they say god is love those who have fallen in their lives they say god is compassion but if you're none of these but you understand the idea of god has entered human mind only because before you and me came there was so much creation we we know we didn't make it so when we cannot figure who made all this somebody makes up a simple story there is one big man sitting up there who makes all this well today women are arguing why can't you be a woman this argument is going on everywhere different things i must tell you this in some of the southern churches these arguments going on why can't god be a woman as you know a couple of elections ago you tried to settle it you know what happened last election why couple and uh there are arguments like this you heard of idiyamin the waganda man idiyamin declared god is black i also agree with him because if a white man can have a white god why can't a black man have a black god what's the problem but you know white people black people they have not seen god because this only messengers and sons came to these parts of the world in india we know god is brown because indians believe god landed in india himself not his son not his messenger himself nine times nine times he came to india so indians especially indians who are living outside the country are very proud of this god came to our land himself nine times so i keep reminding them that is because god wouldn't trust anybody with indians he wanted to do the job hands-on so he himself came nine times and failed failure is obvious nine or ten times you can debate but failure is obvious what i'm saying is the idea of god or a certain source which could be in some human form or animal form or whatever has essentially come because you've not paid attention to the creation the idea has come only because you have no explanation for the creation but if you pay enough attention we don't know god loves you or not we don't know whether god is peaceful or not we don't know whether god is compassionate or not but if you pay attention to this flower or this leaf or a blade of grass you can see whoever created this is brilliant simply no question everywhere you see every atom you see it's intelligence intelligence intelligence but nobody said god is intelligence that's the biggest mistake we've made we said all kinds of things whatever we need we say god is wealth because if you're poor if you are hungry you say god is food if you have backache you'll say god is health everybody whatever they're deprived of they will make it into that leave all these things just take one piece of creation take an ant and pay attention to him you will see it's the most brilliant creation but we never said god is intelligence so this is a living intelligence everything here this is very cosmos in this where do i think i am intelligent if you find access to the intelligence there is you can function in a phenomenal way but within this bone box if you think everything that needs to be there is in this then all you will do is suffer your intelligence now you think a mad elephant is easier to handle than your mind so you must be madder than the mad elephant i don't know who said that but for me my body my mind is never a problem it always cooperates because that's what it's supposed to do my body and my mind should take instructions from me only then it's a useful instrument if it's start doing its own things then it's a new sense and this is what is happening to most people that their mind is the biggest nuisance in the world they would be better off without a brain yes if you remove half the brain everybody is going about struggling to be peaceful you take away half their brain they will sit you peacefully very peacefully so is that the goal i'm asking there is a possibility that is if you do not harness that possibility it becomes a major problem and you don't know how to harness it because you do not know whether it's a horse or an elephant or a cow or a deer when you do not know the nature of something how do you deal with it suppose right now here is a cup sitting here in my mind i think this cup is three feet in diameter now i will try to lift it like this how much ever i do this cup will not come in my hands now i think this cup is a serious problem because first of all i have no perception what the cup is right now that's all the human problem is they have no understanding of what their mind is they're trying to analyze the content content is what you picked up isn't it content is what you picked up in terms of life's experiences this content is of no use you can distance yourself from it very effortlessly the problem is the nature of the mind how does it function what is the basis of its existence if you do not com comprehend the nature of the mind well it feels like a mad elephant why not and you believe you can handle a mad elephant then you've not seen one i've seen [Music] one oh you don't want to be anywhere there when an elephant goes mad when it goes amok oh you don't want to be there anywhere in one kilometer and most of us don't want to be anywhere near our own minds because our minds do act like that and i think one of the great lessons i heard you talking about yesterday is the ability to observe the mind as you said if you don't understand the mind how can you use it as the tool that it is but the distance that's necessary to actually observe it is that what you credit your ability to let go of the challenging aspects of the mind the willingness to give some separation and observe your own mind see right now i see you are well exercised man all right you have strength in your arm is it a problem no does it punch you once in a way i love that usually it does but does it ever punch you your right arm it doesn't so it's not a problem so all the strength is not a problem because it doesn't punch you similarly whatever is the nature of the mind this is also one more dimension like your arm your arm is here to do this that and that your mind is here to do that that and that but now it punches you so there must be something wrong with the relationship isn't it yes that's what we need to look at nothing wrong with the mind we're not holding it right when i say holding it right if i ask you a simple question would you like your mind to be sharp or blunt sharp sharp so now i will give you a very sharp knife very sharp one i must tell you this we were checking in tibet so i'm staying in a tenth and i'm doing some work i'm writing something somebody else there is cutting an apple without one of those you know those new porcelain knives so another person who is there in the tent says be careful it's a very sharp knife this irritates me because i call something a knife only fit sharp if it's a child ah if you're five seven eight year old child yes this is a grown-up man you don't tell him it's a sharp knife then i i just look at it and then i continue my work again another two minutes again they say be careful it's a very sharp knife i said come on leave him alone [Laughter] he's a grown-up man he doesn't know knife is sharp what is his problem is it such a complicated instrument he cannot handle it so no satguru it's a very sharp knife i said god damn it i call something a knife only if it's sharp if it's not sharp throw the damn thing it's not a knife and then i continue to work and this person whispers to that person be careful it's very sharp another two minutes that guy cuts his hand i give up [Laughter] [Music] so i'm saying you want your mind to be sharp so if i give you a sharp instrument you must know how to hold it isn't it i don't know where the handle is if you do not know which is the handle which is the blade if you hold the blade tight of course it'll hurt this is the only problem with the mind you're holding it from the wrong end so for those of us i've studied the mind i've gone through many practices i've tried to figure out where the handle is and usually a lot of times i can hold the handle but sometimes i find myself and there's blood in my hand because i'm holding the blade before i even realize that i grab the blade i wake up in the morning and i feel anxiety in my chest because i feel like i must do something more and there's something more i need to do and i'm just burning with this anxiety and i know that's just my mind it doesn't help me but still i can't find the handle again what are the what is the advice you give people like me who are trying their best to find the handle of the of their own mind but keep finding the blade they're trying their best through what means they're using their mind to find their mind it is like you hire the local crook as a policeman i think a lot of times it's happened in l.a you handle you hire the local criminal as the police in charge oh you will see crime will happen smoothly without any problems isn't it right so that's all that's happening for most people crime is happening smoothly to a point where doctors are telling them anxiety is normal it happens to everybody i am also anxious i am also popping pills you also pop pills otherwise they will make uh you know hallucinogenic drugs legal because it helps see if you fall asleep it helps isn't it if you get intoxicated it helps i'm saying the further advancement of that is if you fall dead it helps that's why they say rest in peace because they know that that guy never rested all his life so where is the handle see we are looking at uh this this with a certain limitation right now there is something called an intellect that is the thing that you want it to be sharp because it's a survival instrument without your intellect you cannot survive in this world an intellect functions only from the data that you receive from the five sense organs of seeing hearing smelling tasting and touching beyond that it cannot function if i wipe out all your memory right now even if you have a sharp intellect still you won't know nothing you can't do nothing because your intellect is like your computer without data suppose no data on your computer it may be a supercomputer blank that is the nature of your intellect it only functions from its data but it must be sharp now is it okay can we go into this in detail yes please so in yoga we look at human mind as 16 parts but today considering the time we'll make it into four segments these are called buddhi ahankara manas buddhi means the intellect identity manas means a silo of information there are eight different forms of memory here there is conscious memory there is unconscious memory there is articulate memory there is inarticulate memory there is genetic memory there is evolutionary memory there is elementary memory like this various dimensions of memories are built into us see right now there is evolutionary memory in you that you're a human being and that's why the body has constructed itself like this suppose somewhere here your dna forgets then this may become a buffalo yes evolutionary memory do what you want you cannot confuse it it is so on the thing 10 generations ago how your great great great great grandfather looked like do you remember no no but his nose is sitting on your face yes your body absolutely remembers a million years ago how your forefathers were even the texture of the skin it remembers so what you're calling is myself is a product of very complex memories of evolutionary genetic karmic various types of memories so all these memories together are providing data for your intellect to function in a certain way to figure out how to use this memory for this situation all right but there is a dimension between this manas and buddhi between the silo of memory and the sharp knife in the front that you call as your intellect between this there is a hand that holds it which is the identity how you identify yourself with what you identify yourself that is how your intellect will interpret the memory see right now you get identified let's say with your nation now for this nation i'm willing to live i'm willing to die all right or you identified with your race you're willing to die unwilling to kill willing to whatever you know whatever your identity is your intelligence will function only that way see people won't understand when somebody thinks something is absolutely right and you think this is the dumbest thing because the identity is like that isn't it it's always telling stories no it is the identification see right from your childhood the identification has been built of your gender of your race of your religion of your nationality of your ethnicity and individually so many other things that each individual will do to themselves of their education of their social status of whatever else right now your teacher is saying for the good of all what disease is about just because you said all are not going to be good but within yourself you want to make your identity with everybody correct you want to make your identity as large as possible that's idea we would like to make this identity cosmic but we don't know where it's cosmos so at least make us make it global because now if your identity is like this your memory your intelligence together will combine and try to address everything from a larger identity everything that you call as evil everything that you call as crime everything you call as corruption is essentially limited identification isn't it yes i'm fighting for my country and i'm willing to kill you i don't know who the hell you are but i'll kill you this is the whole thing isn't it because i'm identifying with my country and what is my country somebody drew a map and told me this is your country this is you only this way you are you otherwise you are not you so i am so strongly identified with my country i am willing to kill the whole world for the sake of my country or my community or my family or myself if it's myself people will say see he's a selfish man if his family in america is very appreciated in india it's seen as corruption i will fight for my family in america it's a good quality i'll fight for my community is a good thing for somewhere else i'll fight for my nation is largely good almost everywhere in the world but if your identity is beyond all these limited identifications then your intelligence will function in a completely different way so this hand which holds the knife and which is rooted in the memory this is not taken care of in modern societies we are all standing up and singing national anthems well i started writing a global anthem almost 10 years ago i announced this in the economic forum and i said we should do a global anthem why why are children not learning a global anthem okay they can sing their national anthem but they must every every child in the school all over the world must sing a global anthem identifying with the planet algeria identifying with humanity and every other life on this planet because only then their intelligence will work for everybody's good otherwise at any cost i want to be good i don't care what the hell happens to you i will not because my identity is like this don't think they're good people bad people they're just identified with that so there is good and bad it just depends on what we are identified with and it's a good people who are always fighting bad people don't fight so much they just still maybe cause one murder here there but they make their money and they sit somewhere and enjoy their life bad people criminals i'm saying good people it is a good indian who is willing to fight with a good pakistani he's a good christian finding fighting with a good muslim it's a good american fighting with almost anybody just everybody's fighting because they're good but good something identified with a limited something and you're good with that isn't that the basis of all the conflict my religion versus your religion my nation versus your nation my community versus your community my race versus your race endlessly it's gone on the whole problem of everything is limited identity i am telling you extreme versions of this is adolf hitler all right extreme versions is adolf hitler but just look around and see there are a whole lot of them around you but only thing is they're not as powerful as him fortunately yes or no yes limited identity means naturally you are going to do something else to somebody else because your identification is like that so in india as part of the yogic culture this was the thing in the past not anymore 0 to 12 years of age a child should just eat well play sleep well that's all no teaching at 12 education begins before he starts his education because education is seen as a huge empowerment before he starts education he must shift his identity to a global or cosmic identity first thing is me that means i am everything not this or that i am everything in the universe is me without taking that step without that initiation there is no education because education is empowerment see today tell me are educated people causing more damage to this planet or uneducated people causing more damage to this planet educated educated people because they're empowered isn't it empowered but their identifications are limited they have no identity with other creatures on this planet so they're just obliterating them all together and they don't even think they're doing anything wrong all right they don't think they're doing anything wrong because they're doing good things so that is how identity is and that's how important it is and we've just not taken care of that in modern societies the whole world would be radically different if people were taught that story about their identity from early on but unfortunately as you said we're not taught that story and many of us have to find it on our own we have to through our own spiritual practice experience that feeling where it is not me in that tree it is us and we're both the same although articulated and expressed and manifested differently but ultimately you get to this sense of unicity this felt sense and then you can forget it but at least somewhere you know it somewhere i know that we're all the same person living a different life somewhere i know that i'm made up of those plants and those animals and this sky and that water and the same thing that feeds the grass i know it sometimes i forget but at least i know it so how if people haven't experienced it for themselves how can they find that felt sense of unicity that felt sense of connection to everything see uh definitely in california you've heard the word yoga yoga the word yoga does not mean twisting and turning and looking like a leftover noodle you know yoga means union what are you trying to unite it is not that you are trying to unite anything it is any way one it is only a realization this is why we use the word realization realization is not an achievement realization is not some kind of an attainment realization is not an invention realization is just that something that was always here you missed it all the time suddenly you saw it one day it's like one day you saw you have two hands how fun is that and suddenly you have two hands you realize but you never saw all your life that you had two hands so realization is not about going somewhere it's about seeing what is there why is it that we are not seeing essentially simply because people do not know the distinction between what is their psychological drama and what is the existential reality see your psychological reality is something that you're cooking up all the time existentially what is there is there when you do not know the distinction what are you making up in your mind and what is the reality when you start enjoying or suffering your psychological reality then the trouble begins because now you started drama and you forget it's a drama now you become so much a part of the drama you suffer in the drama you do this you do that you cry you laugh this is what is the problem you're misunderstanding your thought and emotion as life when people say my life is good or my life is bad what they mean is their thoughts and emotions are either right now pleasant or unpleasant that's all they're saying existentially there are situations uh some time ago no virus now virus all right some time ago maybe econo economy was up there now it's down here whatever that's not the issue the real issue is your thoughts and emotion are playing out in a certain way that makes it a good day or a bad day or a good life or a bad life isn't it essentially people are misunderstanding their own thoughts and emotions as life and reacting to that now there is no time for union because you have become a separate cubicle of your own you're a small bubble who always feel threatened and oppressed by such a large existence because you just sit here and really think about this and this tiny mud ball of a planet you're sitting here huh you're a strong man but if you look at it in this cosmos you are a microbe not even a microbe perspective so if you look like this intellectually you'll get terrified such a small creature in such a vast existence where is my beginning where is my hand what will happen to me these are the fears when these concerns and these struggles and this misunderstanding of what is real and what is not real has happened this confusion has happened union or yoga cannot happen well anyway the yoga that's happening in los angeles scares me because see the yogic system is a certain science it is not an art form that you can twist it turn it you can make it modern art you can make it ancient art it's not that kind it is a science it needs to be done in a certain way so that see it's like this we can actually do a test and see if you want if not now on the screen you can do it at home and see if you just hold your hands like this facing down upon your thigh you will see your breath will be one way keep your hair all the fingers together if you just turn it over your breath will be different way that is how subtle this machine is this way this way the very way it functions the energy's function is different when it is so subtle if you observe yourself in 24 hours time how much of this this everybody is doing without knowing why they're doing what they're doing they do all this and now they're expecting to be peaceful life doesn't work like that if you do not understand how this functions and randomly you function then you're always looking for a good deal in your life good deal in terms of relationships good deal in terms of finances good deal in terms of social relationships good deal in terms of world around us you can have as many good deals as you want but if this is like this you can go sit in heaven and still suffer all right i've been there i've been in the most beautiful place but i brought me to that beautiful place and the me that i brought to that beautiful place was in turmoil and so the beautiful place didn't exist because i wasn't able to see it i wasn't able to be there maybe intellectually i knew that i was in a beautiful place but i wasn't there in that place and that's the challenge of of being a human in this in this existence that doesn't that hasn't been taught from an early age where the handle is how to observe the self how to understand the mind how to use the intellect to our advantage how to identify in a broader landscape than just the small self that we're taught to identify with but i understand and i have you know certain certain compassion for people like myself who find themselves in that situation absolutely but what i want to ask from there is the sense of preference the thing that this feels good this weather feels good this type of relationship feels good making money feels better than poverty you have a desire something that you're craving and then you'll have a fear something that you're avoiding and that seems to be a prison the prison of preference how do you even if you're identifying broader than yourself you still feel the things it still feels hot or cold you still feel love or not you still have money or don't have money how when you're caught in that in that preference the strong preference how do you free yourself from the fear and the craving that's why yesterday i was telling you say i'm always stoned you must be always toned not with the stuff that's available in the marketplace well this is the biggest chemical factory if you take charge of this you will create the right kind of chemistry if you had a choice how to be either blissful or miserable what's your choice for yourself this one blissful uh what you want for your neighbor may be debatable sometimes all right what you want for yourself is very clear you want to be blissful why such a simple thing is happening not happening but i'm saying a simple thing because all human experience is generated from within it doesn't come from outside we know this right our peacefulness our turmoils our joy our misery our agony our ecstasy everything is being created from inside so the problem is the seat of your experience you never sat on that you're like an outsider trying to create an experience from outside you want to air condition the place to feel good you feeling good if you're conditioning there will enjoy that also otherwise we are anyway this is the reason continuously we're talking about why you being joyful or blissful is very important because only when you're joyful by your own nature the fear of suffering is not there when there is no fear of suffering uh you know about a week ago there was a daily i have a quote like a mystic quote going out a week ago one of the quotes said if if your body mind and your very being is sweet and wonderful even if you go to hell you're fine so big controversy around that in india about going to hell and heaven and all that stuff i hell means the worst possible place you can be not somewhere up there or down there people can be in hell in california hello california may be beautiful but people can be in hell isn't it within themselves in their experience in their homes in their situations they can create help for themselves so it doesn't matter where you are fundamentally if you are not in pursuit of happiness but your life is an expression of your joy then all this will go down by itself now without fixing this you try to do this that that no first and foremost thing is you're peaceful and joyful by your own nature not because of something because today something worked out i am happy no i have started so many things that every day something will not work out for me i've made sure my life never works something major is always going wrong somewhere okay some idiot is doing something somewhere and troubling me but that will not decide the quality of how i am that is why you can do everything that you can do people say around me guru so many big projects suppose it fails what to do i said if it fails what to do will die blissful failures if it succeeds other people will benefit this all anyway i will die blissfully if we do it well and it succeeds immense benefit will happen to people if you fail well it didn't work anyway it had not worked even before but when it doesn't make a difference to you what is success what is failure for you so the most important thing is this first and foremost everybody must do a little bit of engineering within themselves to see that being peaceful and joyful is not a challenge once this happens your intelligence will function in a completely different way because right now it's in a survival mode always fearful if what will happen what will happen what will happen means what will i suffer that's a question isn't it once there's an assurance whatever happens this is how i will be other things are very simple yeah when you find that and i haven't found it so i don't know but i've tasted it but when you find that sense that ability to control your internal environment rather than living not to control to liberate to liberate yeah how can you control this right right to generate your own emotions through your inner inner knowing of self inner expression themselves we'll go back to that thing that you said a mad elephant see even somebody let's say somebody's gone mentally in a certain state you call them mad when you call them mad another expression for that is also he's lost his mind yeah if you lost your mind for example can i take you as an example of course i can take myself because a more appropriate example but suppose you lost your mind how can you go mad if you don't have a mind right it could be a good place yeah if you if you consciously lost your mind it's the best thing you can do [Music] yeah surrendered it surrendered it um where i was where i was originally going is when you have that sense of of joy that you can bring forward from your own self is it difficult to generate the motivation to go out and change your reality change the reality for other people because you're so content in the self and is it then love for others that is the is the motivating factor is that ultimately what drives even you with all of your projects that help people because you're content either way so you're not doing it for yourself so what's the motivation what is it that drives you and what is it that drives anybody that's found that that joy within themselves see on a given day let's say today morning or tomorrow morning we'll take it tomorrow morning you're feeling very depressed suppose you should not i'm just saying suppose tomorrow morning you're feeling very depressed are you willing to go out and do a lot of things i don't want to you don't want to do anything tomorrow morning you woke up you're in an unusual state of joy you're willing to do anything isn't it yes if i ask you to bend backwards and get me that rock you will do that because you're joyful it doesn't matter isn't it when you're unhappy how difficult it is to make you do anything when you're joyful you will run and do everything isn't it that's not true so why do you ask such a question everybody ask this question because they are thinking joy means contentment contentment is containment i have never spoken about contentment why should you be content if you're conscious where is the need to be content what is needed i will do if a lot is needed i will do a lot if little is needed i'll do little nothing is related i'll do nothing i think people correlate the state of being with non-doing but that's the false correlation the problem is too much vocabulary contentment joy ecstasy this this this you know not like that from compulsiveness to consciousness that's all right now mind is in a compulsive state in a compulsive reaction state if it becomes a conscious response it's over just little engineering you must do in engineering i'm telling you i'm i'm i'm into it i'm into it when you find that state of bliss inside yourself and you find it more regularly and you you feel yourself feeling love for life love for others then there's a fear that can come up where you're now afraid of letting it go you're afraid of dying because it's so good everything feels so good you enjoy life so much that there's afra there's a fear of dying believe me when you feel very good you're just ready to die actually when you feel really blissed out you're just ready to die doesn't matter what age you are where you are i always keep telling people around me about what do you think when should i die should i die on a mountain or the ocean or here or there where should i guru i don't talk like this why can't i plan my when i see some place that's really good i said this is a good place to die he'll say sadhguru why are you saying this what's happening is your health okay god damn it everything is okay i'm just thinking when to die where to die because everything is so good it's time to go when it's bad time to strive isn't it and everything is wonderful it's like when the fruit is ripe it'll fall you don't have to think you don't have to think it's i'm so sweet why should i fall down it will fall by itself that's how it is that's very true the lakota have a saying today is a good day to die and that was to me a great reminder of living in such a way that life is so full for you that at any time is a good way to go by saying that saying they are telling their warriors because if the guy looks at his wife's face looks at its child's face before going to war and he wants to come back after the battle that guy is not going to be the front line he will be behind so today is a good day to die that guy will be in the front line and don't say that to yourself so that's a story what you're saying is that's a story that's a story that they're telling themselves but i think there is a beauty in in being feeling so full that if it is the day if it's coming from that it's fantastic but it's coming usually to inspire soldiers to be in the front line otherwise every soldier will be in the last line right and everybody goes to the last line means they will retreat they will not go and fight correct right what is it from your understanding you've gone past the normal dimensions of consciousness what is your understanding of death what happens when we die some things you know best only by experiences are you ready not yet well see when you ask what happens after death what you're essentially asking is what is the nature of my existence if i lose this body see you slowly acquired the body that's a fact isn't it hello you're not born like this slowly acquired the body so you know what you acquired you will lose one day so when i lose this body what happens to me that's a question that means what what is the nature of my existence right now i'm here with this body but what is the nature of my existence it's a question tell me this question is better answered now by your experience of how you are now or when you lost your faculties in the name of death when all your faculties are intact this must be looked at isn't it not after you have lost it that means certain faculties are lost so after you die you know what is death but what's the use because now you don't know what is life because you're in death right now you're in life you do not know the other side so this is like one side of the coin you know another side of the coin you do not know if the coin is lying on this table you can see only one side but if you flip it it will give you in that spin it will give you a little bit of both and that we can do for you we can spin you a little bit so that you have a taste of both going with you life and death in one breath it's like that actually in the month of february we published a book called death titled as death the inside story and the bottom line was a book for only those who shall die you in the list i am but the problem is most people think they're immortal that's their problem that is the worst problem in the world people are going about as if they're here forever what is the meaning of unlimited wealth for a person with limited time i'm asking well they get to think of themselves as better than other people suppose all the other people disappear what do you do so only the only joy is that others are doing worse than you i think that is a perversion that's not a joy i am see right now i had a good meal you've been hungry for five days and i feel really good compared to this guy i'm really nice this is sickness there's not happiness isn't it yeah so that kind of things have been trained right from very early age that you enjoy what other people do not have but this you will pay a very very big price you will pay a big price most people who are in that condition they do not know one moment of joy in their life one moment of ease in their life not even joy the only thing he he who they laugh looking at other things when they see that they have succeeded they have accumulated something they will laugh some pleasure is there no joy they don't know what is joy they have some pleasures they can buy pleasures you can't buy joy you can buy pleasure is only a shadow of joy so instead of meeting me you met my shadow what is the use i'm asking you seeing the tree you see the shadow yes a tree shade is good but a shadow is not the real thing when you're here you should know life because that's the only thing we have the only and only thing you have is life everything else is your imagination right now how much is your bank balance how many homes do you have or how big is your home how big is your car this is all only in your memory the only thing that's there when you sit on this chair is your life that's the only real thing isn't it rest is all in your memory suppose from here to your car park when you're walking you lost your memory you don't know which car to pick yes you'll see lots of these people the question is not whether you lost your memory or not i'm saying it's unreal the real thing is the only and only real thing that you have in your life is life but life is not in people's experience when people say my life you're supposed to under figure out what are they talking about they may be talking about their wife they may be talking about their friend they may be talking about their car they may be talking about their job their career their something and something because they think all these accessories are life when you misunderstand your spare tire as your car you know what you will do you will have to roll it and run on the street that's why everybody is exhausted and anxious yes indeed yes indeed what is what is your understanding of the force that we call love because i feel like the word love is used to mean a lot of different things but there's a deeper perhaps truer meaning to to love and i would love to hear your your take on what love really it will make me very unpopular in california [Laughter] see it's like this there is a longing within a human being to be something more than what you are right now if this longing finds a very basic physical expression we call this sexuality sexuality is just that at least for one moment what you are not becomes a part of you somebody who is not you becomes a part of you for some time well after that you know you are you they are they so this is one level of longing which is fundamentally uh infused into our body because it has other functions of reproduction and you know perpetuating the rays and all this stuff we are all here because somebody had it otherwise we wouldn't exist so when you try to do yoga physically sexuality will happen if this happens emotionally if emotionally you try to include something or somebody which is not you as a part of yourself then we call this love if this happens mentally we call this conquest success ambition or simply shopping [Music] why are people shopping do you think they need it no they want to make themselves little more than who they are even if you give them empty shopping bags they will carry it because they want to feel like something more has come to their life today otherwise they'll feel lost food same thing you want to be something more eating for nourishment is one thing but adding more food because you want to feel like more so this longing to be more is fundamental to every human being it is there physical expression will become sexuality emotional expression will become love mental expression will lead to all kinds of expressions in terms of conquest of various kinds when you give it a conscious expression it becomes yoga union the difference between yoga and sexuality and shopping and conquest and love is it's a successful process all others give you a taste of something all others are like let's say you were living in a inside the wall let's say you're in a prison but they gave you a trampoline so you jumped and jumped and jumped you got to look beyond the wall few times maybe every day but you come back again and hit the trampoline and again go up yoga is not as exciting as a trampoline it's like a building a ladder slowly you built a ladder once you build a ladder you're going to go across the wall maybe not as much fun as jumping on a trampoline but trampoline gets you back all the time ladder is not like that nothing romantic about it but if you build it strong and climb across you will be the other side when you talk about the union that you're looking to build is the union the yoga is it union with your universal self is it union with god is a union with with everything what is the what is the union that is the that is the three words for all of which there is too many assumptions your universal nature your god and your what um universal self your divine nature everything everything okay everything is another word divine nature universal self god everything do you know the meaning of any one of these words or does anybody know the meaning of any one of these words does anybody know the meaning of what is everything we just try no no is it possible no then why why are you using such an observed word that nobody knows what it is we just made it up everything where is everything nobody knows what is everything isn't it nobody knows what is the universe and the self well nobody knows what is god also but everybody talks about it so i'm saying from generation to generation we've been insincere this is the first and most fundamental thing that every human being has to do is what i know i know what i do not know i do not know cutting out all this vocabulary from our mind everything that we do not know we know there is a tree is three god's creation or not you don't know you know it comes from the earth did you make the earth no who made the she made it he made it you made it no who made it no you don't know if you come to this one thing that i do not know genuinely experientially not intellectually if you realize i do not know realization is just one moment i do not know is the most tremendous thing in your life because when you see i do not know the longing to know the seeking to know and the possibility of knowing becomes real otherwise i know i know i know is a is a wall that you cannot cross so the entire yogic system always identifies not with our knowledge but with our ignorance because our knowledge we understand how much ever we know it is a tiny minuscule it is a microscopic nonsense in this existence what we know but what i do not know is a boundless possibility so when i become identified with what i do not know i become a boundless possibility if i get identified with lot what little i carry in my head then i become that small and from that small i'm trying to enlarge myself like an amoeba all the best yeah that's why it's sometimes referred to as the mystery and then maybe that's a better a better word for the divine the mystery all right you can use words but i would say if you obliterate all the words it's best because words give you a sense of that you know it it's important within yourself well when i talk to somebody i might call this a tree but if i simply sit here in the garden i won't call it a tree i will simply give my attention and my consciousness to it so i experience it the way it is the tree does not think it's a tree it's a life like you it does its own things there is no experience of that see this happened to me i must tell you this i was studying english language in college my english teacher came a lady till then we were learning all english poems english poets and literature first time we are being introduced to an american poet and that is what i'm sorry robert frost here somewhere close by so she introduced robert frost as a very wonderful poet this this this and then she started reading the poem words are loudly deep and dark i said stop she said why i said a man who calls a tree a wood i'm not going to listen to that guy she said no no robert frost is a fantastic poet this is i said i don't care who he is but a man who calls a tree of wood i am not going to listen to that guy i didn't let her teach after 27 28 years i was doing a program in mysore city and she came to my program then she came and hugged me and said now i understand why you would not let me teach robert frost but it's become common for people to call a tree a wood this is like if a tiger looks at you and says ah breakfast is sitting on the chair hello that's how he would think isn't it if i am a tiger no no i'm sorry i'm doing these two things together tiger and woods together this is the wrong thing i am a lion if i am a lion i would look at you and think ah good breakfast i'm saying it's all right for him he's at that level of existence but it's not all right for you to look at a living tree and think it's wood isn't it yeah it's reducing it to a function rather than the essence the essence of what it really is you're not recognizing it as a life yeah yeah well i appreciate you sitting down to share this wisdom with all of us it's a it's a lot to comprehend and just so much gratitude for everything that you've accumulated in your life that you've been able to share with uh with so many people so thank you [Music]

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Published: Sun Jan 17 2021