League of Documentary - The Harsh Truth about Toxic Korean Culture.

korea the home of k-pop k-cosmetics and of course korean bbq though korea is a small country it's at the center of many cultural trends on the world stage today one of the biggest cultures that korea has pioneered over the years is the entire idea of competitive video games esports has long since existed in korea going much back before even league of legends existed 10 years ago in the days of starcraft korean pro players were already on the scene today korea is still considered to be the best region for league of legends they have won 6 out of all 10 world championships most new champion picks and meta shifts are often pioneered on the korean server streamers content creators and players from all over the world travel to korea just for the chance to be able to play on the korean server but did you know that the korean server is infamously the worst and most toxic server of them all while everyone would probably swear that their region is definitely the most toxic the people who travel and leave korea all seem to unanimously agree that korean toxicity is just on another level some pros some streamers they even quit league from the pressure that they face many go home early from the negative experience and some even develop mental illnesses from prolonged exposure to korean solo queue today we will be talking to and looking at some of the most prominent streamers that have gone to korea and to understand all of the cultural factors that contribute to the korean soloqueue toxicity this is league of documentary today's video is sponsored by manscaped manscape sent me this awesome package in the mail of all of these cool shaving products that they make they just launched their new and improved lawnmower 4.0 electric trimmer for postcovid summer it's got wireless charging it's lightweight and best of all it's completely waterproof so if you want to save time you can shave in the shower if you wish it comes with two different shaving guards that are both pretty comfortable but if you're like me and you don't got much grass growing downstairs to begin with you'll definitely just want to use their bare blade after trying it i can say it's definitely very safe and easy to use you can get free shipping and 20 off with my promo code dong20 at manscape.com that's 20 off and free shipping with dong 20 at manscape.com try manscape today your balls will thank you i'm khao sep i'm a master yi main and i currently live in korea i've been here for nine years so basically i was playing in korea server for years and years and years and i got really tired of server culture i got tired of the culture in the server where players just sell their items they go afk and so when you're playing an nna server you see a lot of passive aggressiveness the jungler is ganking top lane again what's my jungler doing right stuff like that when you're in eu west you see a whole lot of flaming and bad things about your mother and all that other great stuff right when you're in the philippines you get a whole bunch of people just screaming hahahaha and all chat the other regions are mostly pretty mild right korean league of legends mindset was to transfer to like na and it would have the same exact problem that riot korea has right now i don't feel like right korea is failing to tackle the issues as much as these issues don't exist in other regions so nobody else is tackling them if you don't play by the meta they consider it a loss and they'll they'll just go afk they kind of have this mentality of i'm way better than you and if i lose this game you're gonna fall and i'm gonna climb later and you'll never be in this elo ever again speaking from my soul man the the korea solo queue you know i've been here for years and years and years and years and when i would rather play on a 200 ping server than the play on nine ping it really speaks volumes about what it's become like could you imagine voluntarily playing 200 ping when you could just play nine it's really it's really really um fun to play there right now and and if you look at anybody that's come here to play korea solo queue they come into it thinking they're going to enjoy it oh man it's something new the best players in the world they play to win their mechanics are insane and everybody that comes here eventually realizes what it is and they're just dying to go home or they want to go home early it's very very rare that you find a player that will actively climb all the way up the ladder and then enjoy being in korea you know if things don't go their way they basically just throw the game and um as a master yi player to happen to me quite frequently because we don't gank as much as other junglers somebody on my stream made a reddit post about me quitting a game early and so i went back and i looked at the game and of course my teammates were afk i basically made a reddit post saying that instead of looking at my behavior we need to look at the server as a whole and what they're doing wrong and how toxic they are i feel like they just have this mindset that isn't healthy for the game the riot in a saw it and then they forwarded it to riot korea and instead of having a meaningful discussion about it or fixing anything about it or anything like that i get notified the next day that i was banned for 30 days for account sharing and my next ban would be permanent if i was a repeat offender and then they took the accounts that were in my name and the ones that i was account sharing they did not ban them i don't know why and then the ones that i didn't account share they banned so they banned all my accounts that i wasn't account sharing and they didn't ban the ones i was and then like my youtube videos i was literally playing like silver accounts on youtube videos in my students account the account in the video in question wasn't my account and that one didn't get banned either so like they had no [ __ ] clue what they were doing right they were just they're just trying to tell me to shut the [ __ ] up we were in talks and emails and stuff and then they just stopped responding to me because the the pressure you know how it was like all over reddit and stuff and it was getting traction when the pressure was on they were making an effort to talk to me and the moment i fell out of the front page they just stopped they just closed all communication and just let it die down nothing ever got fixed right so we're still kind of stuck in the same issue that we are now the the whole the whole band situation was really dumb they gave me a 30 day ban for account sharing and then they said next offense is permanent it felt threatening like yeah just you could shut the [ __ ] up now kyle right that's that's kind of how that went if you look at the average game time in korea compared to all the other regions the average game length is roughly two minutes shorter on every single elo due to the open mid frequencies champions that dominate the early game are extremely popular in korea if you can take a champion that has a dominant early game and win lane you can effectively break the spirits of the enemy team and create an open situation early on if most of your games are going to be decided in the first 10 minutes then you might as well just play an early game champion what is the point of picking up a late game champion if you're never going to get to the actual late game you're not coin flipping your team you know that your teammates are probably going to go afk if the early game goes south they don't want to wait until you get your fifth item this is why champions like jace renekton and lee sin have always been strong here in korea these champions aren't always the most broken in the meta they're just the most broken against koreans the queue times are much shorter here we just have a larger player base and our games are short in a server if i'm playing in diamond one elo my queue times are like ten minutes right five to ten minutes it depends on the time of day as well in korea they're like 30 seconds you're constantly rotating through games if you're gonna grind in korea you can grind out like 13 or 14 games and the time it takes nine or ten nna because you're just grinding out that many more games and they're shorter as well we have this quick roaming meta where people only play meta champions and if you don't play meta people are willing to troll you it's you you'll see a lot of things like that because people are really focused on the lp they want to get the lp here do you remember back in the day with like feral flare so mastery was broken he had like a 50 ban right in korea they banned him never they never banned him because the champion isn't meta to them they only play meta for example i'm looking in korea right now he has a point six percent ban rate out of that ban rate i'm willing to bet that most people ban him because he's on their team that's just what they do and he has a three percent pick rate that's rounding up if you look at n a he has double the pick rate and nine times the band rate and a higher win rate when we go to diamond plus massive has a 46 win rate in korea and a one percent pick rate compared to n a where his win rate is over 50 and he has a 3.2 percent band rate and almost 4 pick rate any non-meta junglers would not show up on korea at all korea always knows the best early game champions of play and their win rates and their pick rates are significantly different than other regions like just like how much i love lee sin lee sin has always been a 30 plus pick rate in korea every single patch almost same for ezreal great early game champions that do really well it's completely different here in na lee sin has a 12 pick rate 16 ban rate in korea he has a 30 pick rate and a 50 band rate it's huge the difference in the metas are huge like it's it's it's a completely different game here massey is not a champion in korea besides the fact that korea has a super low ping this type of culture also contributes to how the koreans get their amazing mechanics if most of your games are going to be decided in the first few minutes then your laning has to be the best of the best every mistake every misstep every single cs your opponent is going to be punishing you he is not trying to just beat you in lane he is trying to beat your team's spirit down to ff unlike a lot of other regions because all these koreans accept the early open mid culture most people are extremely efficient when it comes to opening mid korea has a strict culture of conforming what do other people think of you are you fitting into the crowd are you doing as everyone else is doing if everyone else is just opening mid at level 7 then let's make sure that it is the fastest most efficient open mid that can possibly be while in other regions there's usually one or two other people that want to play things out or encourage their teams to at least go until 20 minutes koreans make sure that when you open mid you're not just opening the mid lane you're opening your teammates [ __ ] to get [ __ ] harder by the enemy teams koreans are basically all speedrunners playing for any percent open clear online harassment is nothing unique to any single region just as the internet allows everyone around the world to be able to connect to each other it also allows the degenerates of the world to harass anyone they want in the world but unlike a lot of other places in korea there's real life consequences to online trolling if you [ __ ] talk somebody's family in korea then there's a pretty good chance that you won't be seeing your own family for a while back a few years ago when t1 was struggling during one of their regular seasons faker was under a lot of fire although faker is still considered to be the greatest of all time in terms of esports league of legends during the years that he wasn't performing many fans did not let up on him and one of those fans sent this nice donation to faker during his stream now when you do something like this in north america or europe most of the time nothing's going to really happen you might get banned off twitch you'll probably get some messages from other fans calling you an [ __ ] but at the end of the day you're not going to suffer any serious consequences when this incident occurred in korea there was a massive public backlash most of the time pro players and teams don't go for the option to sue regular people it's generally just easier to ignore these people and move on with your life but due to public pressure t1 actually ended up suing the person who sent this message there is no public record of what that person suffered from this lawsuit but the laws of korea state that a cyber insult can result in up to a single year of prison time along with a two thousand dollar fine this is roughly the same amount as a single month's wage in korea for the penalty of cyber defamation you can spend up to seven years in prison along with a fifty thousand dollar fine a lot of people don't know this but everything in korea is basically tied to your identity like when i go to a restaurant i have to scan myself in to track kovid so they know who goes to what restaurant my video game they know who i am they know my id they can tell if your account sharing they can tell all those things so when you do something that is slanderous then yeah they know who you are right everything you do is tracked right cctvs everywhere and all that other stuff for most normal people a stiff fine and the threat of going to jail is enough to deter any form of online harassment but when it comes to crazy and mentally ill people they don't really give a [ __ ] about the consequences of reality unfortunately korean fandoms are known for some very crazy behavior kpop fans are notoriously one of the most toxic fandoms in the world kpop idols are known to not be able to date people because their fans could become upset when ls was rumored to become one of the coaches for t1 korean online harassment went far enough that he had to delete his twitter because his own grandmother was being harassed by korean fans this is not to say that the korean culture is the results of these crazy people you will find crazy in every country and mental illness does not racially discriminate the main problem in korea is the way that mental illness is handled america certainly does not have a lack of idiocy and insanity from the twitch viewers who swat their favorite streamers to sports fans who commit acts of vandalism when their team loses a game the main problem with getting people who need help treatment in america is the american health care system itself the privatized health care system is so profit driven that most people who are not employed simply just don't have any type of insurance and when it comes to mental health most people even with jobs are not insured in this field so most people who want to see a therapist will have to end up paying out of pocket for such treatment in korea it's a completely different problem the state actually sponsors many mental health facilities treatment is free and drugs are easily affordable but the problem is the koreans themselves asian culture generally still looks down on mental illness unfortunately when you talk about things like depression or anxiety it is not something that people will ever take you seriously for most people will avoid any sort of discussion about mental health in fear that they will look weak or look sick to their peers you have depression oh just cheer up anxiety just stop being nervous insomnia oh all you need to do is go to bed earlier man up deal with it when you ask pro koreans how do i win more games of league of legends the simple advice of get good is rather common and when it comes to the korean culture of mental illness if you ask them how do i solve my mental health issues the response of get stronger is probably not that uncommon back in the day i was one of the people that didn't really believe too much of mental illness when i was in high school right but actually uh when i came over to korea and i started playing korea solo queue full-time i actually ended up developing my own mental illness which was anxiety disorder and that really helped me understand what was going on in terms of like mental illness and who has it and what they're going through mental illness isn't something that's widely discussed here like it like i've seen in the states i know that like if i browse my twitter feed or whatever there's a lot of talk about depression or their anxiety and you don't really see that in korea in my years here in korea i've never had a korean person talk to me about their anxiety or depression but when i talk to foreigners it's quite frequent i could totally see how even though it is easy to get treatment here that perhaps these individuals don't feel comfortable talking about the illness [Music] so a lot of people mention how the quick fast games of korea server are driven by pc rooms in fact i see a lot of people mention this all the time and i i don't think that's the case pc rooms yeah you have to pay to use a pc right but i mean you're paying to use a pc at home too with your electricity and all the other stuff but other regions as well also use pc rooms as one of their main ways of playing for example philippines uh they all use a lot of pc rooms when coveted hit they lost a lot of player population on their games vietnam they also use a lot of pc rooms when i went to both those countries i got to experience a pc room culture firsthand it's very similar to korea but they do not have the rates of quoting and game that the korean server does so i think that this is a cultural issue in terms of quitting the game they call it the quick quick culture right if you look at their elevators or whatever you'll see that the close elevator button is like losing paint and stuff because people just spam the button they feel that the games if they're going to be lost it's wasted just go ahead and end a 15 20 minute game it has nothing to do with pc rooms as a lot of people seem to think so what actually contributes to this type of behavior are koreans just naturally more toxic do passions run hotter in k communities does kim jong-un have some sort of secret technology that makes south koreans act like [ __ ] so he can claim that north koreans are better it is because of the south korean work culture a lot of it has to do with the difficulties that they face outside of the game so i was a teacher for two years before i became a streamer i get to see firsthand how stressful it is to be a student in korea the highest schoolers for example will stay inside all day until 10 pm and then if they don't perform like that then you know they have peer pressure from other people oh you got to get into the best universities like in the states i would finish school at three or four and i'd be done even in high school or whatever but in korea you're expected to continue to perform and a lot of these frustrations come into league of legends and it has a lot to do with the culture for the younger individuals now i'm not saying the culture is bad it's just different from what we experience in like uh the united states right it's just a very it's very very hard to be a student here in korea league is an escape for them and they don't want to be stuck in a 30 to 40 minute game and so they feel like they give up from like as an n a player we consider this toxic but i don't i don't think it's toxic i think it's just kind of how the game's developed when we're talking trolling i'm not talking like insulting we're talking trolling like running it down and selling items and just trying to make the enemy win they'll just do whatever they can right to make you lose when you're a student in korea although school hours are roughly the same as the ones we have in america most students have teachers and extra work after school the private tutor business in korea is a 20 billion dollar industry some of these test tutors are worth tens of millions of dollars all of these guys are doing this in the preparation of a single test called the sunning the sunning is essentially the korean sat it determines whether or not you'll be able to go to university and determines which university you'll be able to attend but the most strange thing about the suning is that you can only take it once per year so due to this fact it is so much more important korean culture is very very competitive what did your neighbor get how did your friends do how did you do compared to the national average of top students there is a massive amount of peer pressure and societal pressure to perform and to study harder it doesn't matter if you did your best it matters if you did better than everybody else in america if a student is caught sleeping in class then the teacher usually addresses it very publicly spends time during the class and makes a big fuss out of it but in korea there are sections of the class that are pretty much always asleep this is so common that some teachers actually make rounds around the school in order to wake their students up this is a k-pop song made by one of korea's top tutors it is designed to get students to study harder for their sooning but there is one lyric that really stood out to me throughout this entire song [Music] when you start considering sleep as a reward rather than a necessity in being a functional human being then you know something is definitely [ __ ] up with your system the reason that korea takes its education so seriously is because of its history after world war ii and the korean civil war korea was an extremely poor country most asian countries at that time were considered all to be developing nations but just in a few decades they've been able to become the world's 12th largest economy thanks to their dedication to hard work and education but that doesn't mean these things don't come at a cost the organization for economic cooperation and development or the oecd conducts surveys on 38 of some of the world's most developed countries it essentially measures the general quality of life that these countries have with a strict focus on education south korea has been able to place fourth in the global pisa rankings so many south koreans will simply tell you that this is just the price of being one of the best but that is absolutely not the case for the other countries that outrank south korea canada and finland both rank higher than south korea finland is infamous for short school days and long breaks and speaking from personal experience the only time i ever lost sleep at a canadian school was when i stayed up too late to play more league legends the fact is is that the asian education system focuses so much on grades and marks and scoring high that they forget about the most important thing when it comes to learning you have to make people actually enjoy learning [ __ ] this is a korean alternative school it follows similar principles to the western schools that we have here here's what one of those students said about his teachers i really love that my teachers treat us like human beings like human beings that is the threshold for being a good teacher in south korea i love that my teacher treats me better than a plantation owner treated his slaves south korea's economy may have grown rapidly in the last few decades but that does come at a human cost to the korean people south korea has one of the most stressful work environments in the developed world in countries where people have extremely poor work-life balance people are more unlikely to have kids as a result south korea's birth rate has been slowly declining over the years and could face a population crisis in the next few decades this is a chart of south korea's birth rate it is ranked lowest to highest but what's interesting about this chart is ironically it's also ordered from biggest cities to smallest cities as well the bigger cities often demand more overtime from its employees the more stressful the environment the less likely people are to have kids chickens korea is ranked in the bottom three for work-life balance by the oecd korean work culture has the same problem that japanese work culture has you have to appear to be busy appearing to be busy is more important than taking a break you were kind of expected to sit there and act like you're working until the boss left right so um yeah you see a lot of that i just wanted to leave at 4 30 every day but sometimes i would have to stay as well and then they had these uh these dinners i would be expected to go to dinners like once every two weeks or yeah something about that once a month once every two weeks i would go to dinner with them and then you would have to drink right to uh the same level as your boss right you kind of follow your boss and then during summer vacation when there's legitimately no students right nobody's in the building i still had to go to work and i had to sit at my desk and act like i was doing something so that was a lot of time spent working and uh so a lot of it has to do with appearances and looking like you're working and the work culture is it's it's kind of toxic it's it's a little bit toxic i kind of understand why it is the way it is but the the fact that you know you're kind of at the mercy of your boss it's like think about you're in a company do you want everybody to go out sit on a really long table and then just sit there and watch your boss get drunk and get peer pressured into drinking is that something you want to do i mean some people enjoy it but i personally didn't want to go to the dinners most of the time to spend my free time like that's my free time right if you're in the system you're trying for years and years and years and years to become vice principal or principal you you have to go because you have to keep yourself associated with the boss you have to keep yourself in this position right you have to be liked amongst your peers so these these dinners are quite important for upping yourself within the workplace it's just really weird because you know when americans or whatever they talk about their boss or whatever their boss feels kind of not an active part of what they're doing until they need to get approval from the boss but in korea the boss is like always watching all seeing you have to go eat with them you have to stay on his level while drinking everything goes through him you know it's just it feels very boss centric here so everybody wants to become the boss and everybody respects their elders and they're they have even in the korean language they have ways of referring to people that are older than them or higher in status in them and those are all really important to them so there's a definite hierarchy where you have to respect your boss you have to [Music] i love korea a lot which is why i never moved you know a lot of the things that result in negative things also result in positive things the people here are really really nice the game is where you start to see like the bad side of people the game is their outlet of where they release their negative behavior in person people are very respectful very nice i never really saw any of the negativity that i did when i was like living in the states i come from indiana right i've seen like drugs on all of my friends and the way they talk and all these other things and in korea everybody's very polite keeps themselves drugs isn't a thing here they're hard workers but you know that could be debatable whether that's a good or a bad thing right like how the companies are treating them i mean overall the country is fantastic i like it a lot drugs are illegal in south korea even soft drugs such as marijuana is heavily shamed in countries like south korea when it comes to the drugs of their choice koreans have two main ones drinking and league of legends league is their drug it's their escape it's what they use to relieve themselves of all the other stressful [ __ ] in their lives so it's not really a surprise when koreans can seem a little bit more toxic than the other regions they're releasing all of their pent up frustrations onto this one game if a korean child is able to make it onto a pro team that means he likely doesn't even have to take the sunning he doesn't have to go through all the traditional stressful routes of having to go into a korean company and going to college faker was only 16 when he made his lck debut if you're able to become a professional korean player you'll probably make more money and have more options throughout your life winning in league legends isn't just a mental escape from their stressful lives winning could mean a permanent escape from the painful road that lies ahead of [Music] them

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Length: 27min 14sec (1634 seconds)

Published: Fri Jul 02 2021