Joe Rogan | Memes are Cultural Objects w/Graham Hancock

the girag an experienced but lost civilization and passed down I deploy a concept in this book that I actually got from Richard Dawkins Richard Richard Dawkins is the author of the book called The Selfish Gene and he's not one of my favorite people because he's a he's a materialist reductionist and he doesn't believe in spirit or or any mystery in life that were just accidents of chemistry and biology he also has no psychedelic experience and he said no I did challenge him at a public event two to go to go have a dozen sessions of ayahuasca yes and once oh just once but he has an excellent out because and sanny he's had that he's had a stroke so he has a good excuse for not for not doing that but he is a clever man and one of his concepts that he's introduced into human culture is the concept of the meme we're off of I think familiar with that where genes are physical reproductive mechanisms they reproduce themselves down the generations they replicate they multiply they're passed on from one individual to another memes are cultural objects cultural ideas that are passed on and replicate and reproduce themselves and what I see right across the Americas and right across the old world as well is a set of memes that involve the sky that involved the ground that involve geometry that involved notions of life after death and I think the only way to explain these is that they have been inherited from an earlier culture that was in some way connected with the ancestors of all of these all of these cultures I think that's what we're looking at in the Amazon we're looking at a meme which was deliberately created once you mobilize a population to start creating huge geometrical structures you are also facilitating many other possibilities that an organized population allows I think that's what happened at Quebec Lee Tepe I think that's why they created the megalithic site there to mobilize the local population of hunter-gatherers to give them a project to do to engage them and in the process of engaging them to teach them the skills of Agriculture which were which which are fundamental to to any concept of of civilization and it's weird the way agriculture just suddenly appears in in gobekli tepe and there's huge agricultural mysteries in the Amazon as well may I share a couple of these mysteries with you before you do that though can you pull up that image from gobekli tepe of pillar was a pillar 43 Penna 43 in enclosure D I would like to see that that guy hold in that bag that is it's that the bags are in a row along the top of the pillow its pillar 43 in enclosure D that Gobekli Tepe is there an image of that online that's available okay here we go yeah there's so there's the bags in a row in a row along the top it's the same sort of square shaped bag with a curved handle that you find on the earliest image of the pillar of the feathered serpent and that you find no you have to go above that Jamie just a little bit higher up the pillar those max right yeah right right at the top there it's odd that this symbol crops up in in many different cultures and tends to be associated with a instrument interpretation of those but there is no mainstream interpretation of those bags that's my interpretation of those bags which I which I freely confess that's how that's how I read them I'm intrigued by the anomaly that the similar bag and turns up in the hands of the Quetzalcoatl finger and turns up in Mesopotamia repeatedly in in the hands of the individual so called the AB kallu the the the magician's of the gods the beginner bringers of civilization and the plume serpent Quetzalcoatl was it's an Aztec card right and question requests for quatl is an Aztec is an Aztec God but but the Aztecs acquired him from earlier cultures the very fact that an image of the plumed serpent is given such priority in Olmec culture tells us that that system of ideas was present during Olmec times which takes us back at least to 1500 BC probably quite a bit earlier than that where's the Aztecs are 1500 AD so there's 3,000 years between the Aztecs and the Olmecs and that same system of ideas is running through all of those cultures and the Mayans had a name for it as well kukulcan and what do you think that plumed serpent was I think he's it's very clear from from the accounts that have survived that what he's associated with her two things in particular one of them he's a God of peace he's not a war god and the and the other thing that he's primarily about is giving the gifts of civilization this is what you human beings need to know in order to move on to the next level that is that is the function and the role of Quetzalcoatl and it's there are very similar we could refer to them as civilizing heroes who are found in other cultures and other locations or Syrus in Egypt plays that role as a bringer of civilization there's hardly a culture in the ancient world that doesn't remember a time far back in remote prehistory when some kind of supernaturals or advanced human beings and I prefer the latter that some kind of advanced human beings were involved in a project to disseminate civilization I mentioned the Takano in the Amazon who who are big drinkers of of ayahuasca the Takano have a fascinating origin myth they say that they're ant the origin myth states specifically that their ancestors were brought to the Amazon they were brought to the Amazon by a group of supernaturals who included the daughter of the son and an individual called the helmsman who steered the serpent canoe in which this settlement mission in the Amazon was was performed and what these so-called super naturals did was they brought the ancestors of duquan Oh to the Amazon and they showed them the best places to settle the best places where they where they might find hunting the best places where they might create a village the best places for agriculture and then they left but they left them behind one gift and that gift was ayahuasca Wow that's the story of the origin myth of the Takano and it sounds like to me rather like the other side of the story of that DNA signal in the Amazon that a group of people were deliberately settled in the Amazon by human beings who they chose to regard as as supernatural so that's that's what makes sense of it to me [Applause]

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Length: 6min 34sec (394 seconds)

Published: Tue Apr 23 2019