Joe Rogan & Lawrence Krauss on Questioning Religion

hello freak [ __ ] and that's the problem with it that with a lot of what's happening in our government people think you know what I really want to believe in this absurd story and therefore I refuse to accept evolution if you're the Veidt if you're Mike Pence the vice president of country you say I don't believe evolution because I don't it doesn't agree with my ridiculous fundamentalist ideas and they said that in Congress right he said we shouldn't be teaching evolution in schools we should be in teaching intelligence line and and why because he it offends his personal faith perhaps it might also be a political ploy it might be a thinking he knows a large percentage of the country find comfort in a leader that subscribes the same sort of superstitions that they do yeah I that could be he did this before he was in a national office he was a congressman I suspect he did it sounds like he believed it'd be right you know who knows right but that but the point is that we we should realize that the only that that we shouldn't listen to that kind of nonsense right because we may not want because there are a lot of people in this country who do think that evolution directly confronts their belief in God or the Big Bang directly confronts their belief in God and therefore they don't want their children to learn about that but what an awful thing to do to your children to withhold evidence about how the world really works because you know you don't have to believe in the Big Bang that it really happened you don't have to believe in evolution but it happened it's like philip k dick said the science fiction writer reality is that which continues to exist whether or not you believe in it yeah okay and so you may not want to believe in it but it happened and and for you to withhold that kind of knowledge from your kids because you're worried is going to affect their faith is in my opinion child abuse because you're hindering their capabilities as a adult in a society which is highly technological to function effectively they're doing it because they believe it as well I'm believing it's right I'm not believing they think they're helping their kids but just of your parent I am we've all screwed up our kids right we all do things for our kids because we think it's good for them and and sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't I'm not saying these people are doing it because they they want to hurt their children they think somehow that not believing in God makes you a bad person right but there's no evidence of that in fact in fact a Steve Weinberg the Nobel prize-winning physicist has said and I love it he he said so they're good people in the world they're bad people good people too good things bad people do bad things when good people do bad things it's religion do you think that religion in its earliest stages was in a sense primitive man with no science trying to figure out the world and trying to have some sort of rules like a more like a scaffolding in order to to move to the next if you see that it exists in so many different cultures yeah it might have been something along the course that way with their effort it was their effort to understand the world around them based on what they knew it was noble you know they tried to understand the world and so there's nothing wrong with it but claiming that we today should be guided by the worldview of illiterate peasants in the Iron Age peasants who who didn't know the earth orbited the Sun and wrote down scriptures based on their beliefs at the time they're argued that should guide our life today when we discovered 100 billion galaxies in the universe and discover dollars of is ludicrous so you're absolutely the birth of science and religion are the same and in fact modern science grew out of religion people point that out and they say to me how dare you talk about religion you know as as being outdated science grew out of religion and I say to them well that's fine but children outgrow their parents right is so great no doubt religious ideas and all our early scientists were religious because the only game in town you couldn't be educated except the church controlled all the universities and so it was like the National Science Foundation of the 16th century it's not surprising they were all religious because that's that was the only game in town so that that helped create the birth of modern science but science outgrew it and that's ok kids outgrow their parents thank goodness well I think maybe that might help kids outgrow their parents wine the getting religion force down your throat is one of the best ways for kids to reject it as they get older some presumption kids like you and me but I get lots of letters you know we made this movie called the unbelievers and and but which I'll admit Richard Dawkins and I around world as we talked about this up and it was nice and maybe and I hope and it's a it's a well-made film I like the mo filmmakers who made it but I found people come up to me I had no idea of this it's one of the negative aspects of religion that I never appreciated I have people come up to me almost every day I write me and saying you know what I saw a movie and I realized I'm not a bad person for asking questions and I'm not alone you know these people from small towns in Georgia they have no one to talk to they think that the only ones who's asked the question is God real is it okay to not believe in God and they're told by everyone else Nunnally you'll go to hell but you're a bad person and suddenly they discover that's not true and so I think there are a lot of people who have that force down their throats it's really hard when you're a kid you know and have these and that's why I do think any kind of religion for kids is kind of child abuse not no matter what because these concepts of a deity and the possible existence of a purpose of universe are very deep and subtle concepts and expect a three-year-old kid to ram that down a career old kids throat is unfair because the kid can't address it it ends up being internalized in ways and a lot of people you know I hear a lot of people who've had deep religious education who say you know it's hard to outgrow that because when you get when that's thrust into you as a child it's really hard to over ever overcome it the guilt feelings that many religions introduce the fundamental notion that that you know you're ultimately sinful and no matter what you do is sinful if something a lot of people have hard times within and that claim of sin is just so you know I've debated people who you know who argue that the homosexuality is is is is sinful you know and then and it's unnatural God intended it to be otherwise and then I point out well you know what you take all mammals ten percent in every species almost ten percent have homosexual relationships sheep have long ten percent of sheep have long-term homosexual relationships are they sinful okay it's not unnatural at all it's a natural consequence of whatever but now why it took case it's interesting evolutionary question but it's certainly not unnatural it sounds uniform that if it's 10% yeah so well you know plus or minus a little bit certainly seems to be biology there's some purpose there's some there's some biological purpose to it and so a curio argue that it's both unnatural and wrong is to misunderstand biology but people grow up being told it's evil because the Bible said it right and then they don't want to give people who homosexual the same rights as other people because they tell them they say God didn't want them to have the OVA so the problem is people are told these things that are ultimately wrong because you know maybe they're because for whatever reason the tribe that wrote down that that scripture wanted to make sure that there were homosexual relationships in the group well it's really baffling when you talk to people about the Bible and the Old Testament brings a New Testament and they don't even understand where the New Testament was created by Constantine and a bunch of bishops he threw a bunch of leaf out and by the way they think it's kinder gentler sure the Old Testament is one of the most you know look at the current people say the Koran is violent and vicious read the Old Testament you know you're supposed to stone your kids if they disobey you yeah and and the reason kill people who are two different kinds of cloth exactly and the reason that nowadays serve the OL Abrahamic religions of Judaism and Christianity may seem a little less violent than Islam for some people is because you know people take the Koran literally that's part of sort of fundamentalist ISM very few very few people take the Bible as literally as namely hey we're going to stone kids in the 12th century they may have but now we've outgrown it and Islam is six hundred years younger and so it's it's just the older Testament is just as violent as the Koran but no one takes it seriously but people most people who call themselves religious they pick and choose the things they like from the Bible or the mood Testament of the Old Testament they pick and choose a nice kind leur gentler things you know Richard Dawkins foundation in England did an interesting survey so they the British government does a census you know and and they ask people's religions as part of it and in the last census remarkably only 55 percent of people said they were Christian Church of England which was one of the lowest ever but fine they went to those 55 percent people they did a survey of those and they said ok why do you call yourself Christian do you believe in the virgin birth do you believe in transubstantiation do you believe in you know and went down the list and people say no no no no and then they'd ask why do you call yourself Christian and the answer was we like to think of ourselves as good people hmm so religion is user morality and somehow people throw out all of the evil and it's not just the Old Testament no one talked about Hell more than Jesus Christ okay geez guys supposed to love everyone talked about hell this eternal damnation for people who disobey as Christopher Hitchens used to say God is like a cosmic Saddam Hussein but worse because Saddam Hussein is just torture his enemies and while they're alive God is worse he takes the people that is like a torches them for all eternity who wants such a God what an awful disgusting idea [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Length: 9min 47sec (587 seconds)

Published: Thu Mar 30 2017