Joe Rogan - Is Steven Seagal Legit?

the Joe Rogan experience so this very very few fake jiu-jitsu black belts but occasionally there are some and they get outed and there's some hilarious videos online of guys going where's it where does Steven Seagal fall in that line he is a legitimate aikido black belt in fact he was an instructor one of the very first Americans to teach at a dojo in Japan oh no [ __ ] so Steven Seagal but the martial art is the questionable thing it's the martial art of Aikido is it's really a martial art that was created to disarm people with swords the idea was that you lost your sword in combat and someone was coming at you with a sword last-ditch effort is you had to be able to use someone's momentum against them you got to be able to use some guy comes at you with a sword you have to be very adept at catching their arm and flipping them over here's it's very subtle right let's let's not use this because it's it's it's easy to poke fun at him when he's old but let's go to that black and white one you see that black and white one down there go to that if you go back see that one right there Steven Seagal go to that one now there's some some footage of him when he was young yeah this is a go full screen he's legit he is very legit and he was thin it was a different thing like but the thing is nobody comes at you like yes and a [ __ ] NCAA wrestler would shoot a double on him and take him down faster than you can possibly imagine I mean this does not work it's a dance well it works it it works if someone doesn't know what they're doing or if you have a lot of physical attributes like Seagal is a huge guy he's a very big guy and he probably could pull that off on a lot of people who don't know how to fight yeah now here this is what it was about what Aikido is really but this is kendo though they're using swords which maybe they dude use some of that Nike dough but what Aikido was originally created for I hope I'm not mistaken was learning how to disarm that the guy comes out of with a knife and he flips a guy and takes the knife away he's using the guy's energy against him that was the original intention of Aikido but in terms of Japanese martial arts Aikido was never thought of as the most effective judo is far more effective because judo involves people grabbing people and flipping them and slamming them on the ground like there's a great video of an old judo master see if you find this video this is this guy he looks like he's about eight years old he weighs about 13 pounds and he is lit you can tell especially someone who knows martial arts you can tell when someone's just giving in the problems a lot of these demonstrations of Aikido as guys are just giving in like this old dude watch this old dude the old dude in the right hand side is so much bigger than the other guy and they're walking the guy around and like he's really throwing this right this is legit like this guy's trying not to get thrown and he doesn't know what to do he trips him to the ground there but this old guy is tiny but he's using perfect leverage and perfect technique yeah and [ __ ] he looks really old in this picture like the guys trying to throw him there and he can't pull it off yeah and he can't pull it off because the older guy has perfect position and perfect what is the name of this video perfect leverage look at this nine years old judo master is the name of the video online and I don't know if he was really 90 but he certainly looks like he could be 90 but this old guy just knows how to notice also the back of his heels are always like lifting up he's moving this guy's trying to throw him and he's just and the guy who's trying to throw him appears to be a black belt at least he's wearing a black belt [ __ ] incredible men it's really amazing so judo was a much more effective martial art and judo was actually what was taught to the Brazilians when count my ADA went to Brazil and taught people in Brazil particularly to the Gracie's they taught them Brazilian jiu-jitsu the Gracie's took Brazil what was judo at the time and they took the ground attacks of Judo and just perfected them and then honed them and changed them and made them more technical and really worked on utilizing love and utilizing submissions and they they turned that into Brazilian Jujitsu so judo is standing as well as ground yes there's a ground aspect of judo I was like Ronda Rousey's probably the most famous submission artist in the UFC and her background was in judo she was a judo player and very good at judo she was a bronze medalist so when she would get a hold of people she would just [ __ ] throw them on their ass and flip them and toss them and slam them to the ground she just had phenomenal judo but also a wicked armbar and that was because the knee Wazza the the ground attack very part of jiu-jitsu comes from judo so there you go yeah my father did judo when he taught it to me and my brother and then I remember my brother was bigger than me and he used to flip the [ __ ] out of me and then he did it to me one day and my father grabbed him and flipped him down on the ground it was like this is not good this is like passing on no knowledge this is just a violent family out of control who's his dad drunk he was six foot two cigarette in his hand yeah [ __ ] yeah judo judo is way more legit than Aikido something like Kito's not legit like it's a lot of pressure points and holding the wrist and this is really different yeah most of it is throws and learning how to take an attacker like if you just charge forward an Aikido guy you have your right hand come on like cocked and ready just run on them and throw that punch of really good at Keita I was gonna grab that flip you and slam you in the ground right but you know how often does that come up yeah you know most especially today when people actually know how to fight it's just the difference it's too limited yeah there's a lot of martial arts like that like there's certain aspects of karate that are applicable but there's a lot of it that's really limited [Applause]

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Length: 6min 26sec (386 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 21 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/Celerial]

Sure. I don't fall into the crowd that dismisses aikido offhand. I've never trained it, but in watching some of the throws and holds are similar to what you'd find in judo. I buy that Seagal was, at one time, one of the best at it.

That being said, I think that time is probably past. Dude gets winded walking to the mat. He seems more interested in the Hollywood life and standing around with his hands folded in straight to streaming movies. I think any kind of confrontation with any solid martial artist would end badly for him.

[u/[deleted]]

Seagal did indeed have legit aikido skills at one time so far as I could see (speaking as a reformed Aikido-ka). But like Celerial said those days are probably long gone.

He probably got seducd by the Hollywood lifestyle though. Chael Sonnen gives a take on the sort of "martial arts" practioner who ends up in Hollywood:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4rBq2ejFHk

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Seagal definitely falls into this category. He use to run a dojo in the USA but as his career took off he began to neglect it then eventually left someone else to run it. Sort of says a bit about where his priorities were.

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[u/JimboFett]

Let's just be thankful he taught Anderson and Lyoto hot to kick.

[u/derioderio]

I would say he is as legit as most aikido is, however you choose to interpret that...

[u/BJJJosh]

Did Joe consider that Seagal could just step to the side?

[u/Vossburton]

He’s as real as Dux...

[u/[deleted]]

Easy summary: na.

[u/Zen_Hydra]

I studied Yoseikan budo for a few years, and we were taught both aikido and jujitsu variations of various techniques. From my personal experience, aikido is mostly useless compared to jujitsu. Everything worth learning in aikido, can be better learned by studying traditional jujitsu or judo. If you need a compliant uke for your technique to work, it isn't a technique worth learning. That said, if you grab my wrist, it'll be your ass.

[u/jimmythegrip]

There’s a great podcast called Behind The Bastards and they do one on him that’s really good