Joe Rogan Experience #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day hello Sebastian it's my first time here yeah at the Austin Property yes right and first of all most comfortable chair I've ever said great right I don't I feel like when I come here or when I come do this podcast is my third time on it I feel like I'm in the future all right I feel like you got things that aren't even out yet right I just feel like this chair the the general public can't even have access to no but they do we've had these for years whatever they are these are great they're then I feel like I I've never I never drank water out of uh metal cup yeah and I we're sustainable here [Laughter] [Music] I feel like there's a reason for everything that you do right there's definitely a reason for metal cups you really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic okay yeah again I mean I do I drink a plastic water bottle someone gives me one but I avoid them whenever I can yeah yeah of course we all we all know oh the Plastics what I'm I'm drinking out of plastic uh bottles myself and I don't know I don't see that much of a it's going to turn you into a chick well maybe is this even real water what kind of water water is this okay filtered all right filtered water yeah what is it like it's a super filter some crazy filter definitely a special machine that's you can't even unplug that right you can't you can't get this room you can't get the water outside the room quite good water right it's very delicious and then you got a whole and I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area on on your side of of the table yeah there's just so much [ __ ] going on over there right there's tins there's Mammoth teeth I got an arrowhead or legit arrowheads probably 500,000 years old you got soil on your bookshelf out there yes I've never seen anybody jar soil before well that was from a gentleman um uh who runs White Oaks pastures his name is Will Harris and he um he has this amazing uh Farm it's a regenerative farm and he gave us two uh pieces of soil two was that Carl bark he wants a fight he he didn't get enough biting me this morning one more Carl Carl's getting hard dude he bit my fig that was a real yye that I when he bit me this morning I was like yo Carl goes after you no yeah he went after me but anyway that soil one of them is a a jar of regenerative soil which means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate and they they live off the land in a natural way and it's a deep rich dark soil and the other soil which is pale is that's industrial soil that's soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers and the top soil's dead and it's just garbage which is most of what we eat see the difference between you and I is you actually remember what the soil does and what somebody gave me soil somebody gave me soil and you said you got soil I I guess yeah somebody gave me dirt and I would know the difference between the two you see the dark dirt is the good dirt that's the real dirt that's how dirt's supposed to look out in the wild that's what we're supposed to be eating food from mineral rich soil so you get healthy vegetables healthy animals that's beautiful that you have that on display and and and and again here coming and taking a tour of this place is inspiring uh you make me want to spend money yeah you should spend money you definitely should spend money cuz if you don't spend money like what's the point in having it I know I wish I could get there but you come on bro look at that watch you're balling look at that thing what is that my my wife gave me this for beautiful watch what is that it's a cardier watch for our wedding that's gorgeous let me see that let me look at that oh that's a pretty watch that is a lovely watch thank you Joe I appreciate it yeah um yeah she gave me this for her wedding gift very nice but wife's got taste that's obviously she got you handsome bastard she got a lot more taste than I do I tell you that right I know yeah I let my wife pick out almost everything when I have nice sneakers on it's generally my wife bought them does your does your wife uh comment on your uh clothing she does but she leaves me alone for the most part but she she'll dress me occasionally if I have to go out but I'm basically I'm a [ __ ] teenager Yeah well yeah like a t-shirt like a jet suit t-shirt guy I wear t-shirts yeah they're comfortable I wear jeans they're comfortable you know I don't really give a [ __ ] I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit I wear suits yeah yeah I have some nice suits I David August made me a whole I have like a whole row in my office I mean my uh my house my my closet filled with suits yeah I got a bunch of customade Suits all right cuz I can't wear regular suits I don't fit in them you know there's not a lot of 200 lb 58 dudes just very odd shaped they they don't make clothing chimp sizes short dudes really yeah it's so but it's a nice fitted suit it's a [ __ ] wonderful thing to have cuz it just fits you perfect all the Cuffs and everything you feel different you put it on you know we uh all the boys uh we we did a show in Vegas we did the MGM the grand Garden Arena and we did uh me and Brian Simpson Tony hch cliff and Hans Kim and we I got them all suits I said let's all get like we're doing Vegas come on let's do it rat pack style so we got some these beautiful David August suits and Jamie got one too it was incredible nice it was so much fun yeah it's nice you wear you feel different when you show up with a suit on you do feel different however I look at that that's us oh yeah come on son ni that's a nice sharp shot sharp everybody's looking sharp look at Jamie with the shades come on got the full Pulp Fiction ponytail going on look at you yeah right I feel though with a suit right and i' I've noticed this uh as I've gained some weight in the midsection wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have like a very kind of tight body right if you get stuck around here binds you tuck in your shirt the buttons are hanging out for day so I'm flu fluctuating in my in my weight where the suits I got right now I got to work into them yeah well you and me are both Italian and Italians we just love our pasta It's a real problem it's a problem especially problem when you after you hit 50 it just seems to uh not go away it doesn't go away the only way to go away is to not eat pasta that's the only way it's the only way for me not eat pasta and booze if I cut way back in the booze and no pasta my body just goes and shels back to normal yeah I'm in the process of trying to uh get back in it's so hard to avoid that food the food is just like if it's in front of me I just have a real problem well you you're you're like to you like to eat meat do you find that the meat is uh is helping your uh physique and yeah if I just eat meat yeah definitely yeah because meat is very satisfying meat has what's called a high satiety rate which means like when you eat it you get satisfied when your body's had enough but I always say this like if you gave me a steak just a steak 16 o steak I eat it I'm good I don't need anything else but if there's a bowl of pasta next that steak I'm eating the pasta too if there's a some bread and butter I'm going to eat the bread and butter somebody rolls out dessert of course I'll have dessert next thing you know I've consumed you know 1,500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need that just you just get addicted to just stuffing your face just stuff oh if I don't leave like this like oh like my my stomach literally will distend out where I look at myself in the mirror I'm disgusted like what have you eaten look at all the mass you've put in your body because if you looked at like you keep your stomach like right here like this is normal my normal stomach but if you add that much food which is I'll consume that much food easy it just goes right here oh yeah oh and you just look you like you fat piece of [ __ ] sh you lazy slovenly greedy [ __ ] like look what you've eaten you you get any uh you sweat at night when you sleep after you have meat I'm drenched I have uh a thing called an eight Sleep mattress cover I have one they're [ __ ] amazing to Game Changer okay so do you crank that thing up to 10 after you eat a meal like that to cool off the body no you generally uh if I'm sweating it's cuz I'm having nightmares you know I'll I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drench not in that thing though that thing generally I I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it it's I always used to wake up sweaty I would wake up at Wet sheets oh yeah no I I eat I eat a rib by 2 o'clock in the morning I get up and I'm like sweating yeah and and that never used to happen uh when I when I used to eat I don't remember what I have the eight sleep thing dialed into but I got it right there The Sweet Spot I've tried it a little too cool a little too warm but now I got it like right there I sleep like a baby do you have it heat up uh in the morning in the morning I think it does I think it's on some sort of a cycle I'm not I'm not exactly sure I don't remember how I set it up but you could there's a bunch of different options that you can do and you can even have a different option for like you or your wife if she likes it warmer or cooler it's nice no it's been a game changer for my life it does make a big difference yeah be taking care of sleep is I've really prioritized that especially recently because you know owning the club and being out late and I I was doing two shows a night which is also a lot was too much I was doing six hours of Comedy a week just doing three nights just doing Tuesday Wednesday Thursday two shows a night but it was just I was too tired I was burnt out and I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home shows over you know like 12:30 or something like that I get home hanging out with the guys at the club I'm getting home at like 1:30 and then I start writing and so I write from 1:30 to like 4: and then I have to get up at 10: to work out I'm like this is too much you're material in the in the D of night yeah that's what I write wow yeah I I'm I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep so I don't have to like Dad you know I have to think about anything you know did you do this did you put that away does this where's the thing you know I don't have to deal with anything the dog's asleep everybody's cool I can just sit in front of that [ __ ] computer and think you know and that's the only time that I have like free reain at my house where there's no one awake so I get my best and also I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage and if you just hold on to that like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode your your brain is already thinking yeah I uh for me I I do a voice message I I record the set and I'll listen to it afterwards but as far as like creating I mean I don't know I feel like after 10:00 the whole body shuts down and I I got two small kids so maybe that's why you know they're they're up but yeah I mean I 9:30 10 there's there's and talk about the two shows I mean I used to do two shows with my my eyes closed and now it's like the second show it's like hey are you taking vitamins uh I take supplements like uh you know multivitamin I'm sure I don't have it dialed in as get it dialed in make a big difference much as it should be but uh I just feel exhausted J I am tired yeah and I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive oh that's uh that's where I'm at you you look like you wake up ready to go I got this whole vision of of what you're day must look like you must spring out of bed and go give me it right I never I I don't talk about not not having a suit on I don't think since I've known you I've seen you yawn dud not kidding bro you constantly look awake what is it the it's Health the the water it's all the above supplements definitely that's a big factor I take a lot of vitamins I take uh I take um athletic greens that's one thing I take but I take a whole Suite of different vitamins I take a a bunch of different things like vitamin D vitamin K2 v i take uh things for eyesight I take um uh just fish oil I take creatine I take a lot of stuff okay yeah I took a I know three or four vitamins once right I swallowed it with some water I coughed and a and a puff of white smoke came out of my mouth vitamin powder I think the body's rejecting the the vit it's got to be a slow process you don't want to dive right into the amount of vitamins the amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup jeez every day all right yeah taking a couple I you have like a whole cabinet that's filled with supplements and I pull them out so what when you travel what do you car carry a suitcase of supplements I have a bag and in my bag uh most of the time when I travel I there's a company called Pure encapsulations and they make uh these packs like athletic pure pack they're great for travel very easy you don't have to think about it just rip open the pack take those vitamins and you're good so when I'm on the road generally you getting rid of Carl is he too too rowdy know he's Rowdy he want to bite me he's teething bi how cute is that dog he's cute I just bought a dog I just got a dog you get never never a dog owner in my life this is the first time I've ever had a dog it's a labber dooodle and it's oh those are great dogs extremely intelligent yeah but I don't think it likes me what I don't know he looking at me like um loves my wife loves my kids doesn't like you I don't know just it's uh it's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids really and just very perceptive on the uh maybe he wants to be the man is he the man of the house well he's becoming the man does he have balls uh yeah keep his balls yeah don't don't no that's what that's what the one of I think the dog trainer said just keep them keep his nuts and the whole idea is you don't want unnecessary puppies right I agree don't let your dog breed but be with your [ __ ] dog like but if you take your dog's balls off now your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore they develop hip problems and joint problems they they're tired all the time just like a man if you take his balls away they become a unic that's what you're doing to your dog okay and it's just I've seen people do it and they're like oh my I wish I didn't do it like Andrew huberman said that he started giving his dog testosterone cuz he gave his dog uh he got his dog fixed and then his dog was like listless all the time and so he's like he felt terrible and they started doing the research on it and looking into it and like oh you need hormones dogs do just like people do mhm it's terrible for them yeah we we uh we'll keep his nuts intact I had a vet that told me that yeah one vet a great guy and he was like don't do it don't do it everybody says to do it like you're not going to you're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed with a bunch of different dogs and have puppies just that irresponsibly so your dog has a nice yard you're you're you're good dog owner you're with them all the time like don't worry about it yeah don't do it as long as you're paying attention to them yeah just the whole idea is just to not I mean people are irresponsible that's why I can't go to the dog pound if I go to the dog pound I will have 20 dogs yeah my you know my dog's perfect he's awesome but I I just I love dogs I I would have have as many yeah I always had dogs I would have as many dogs as I can I love them they're just pure love and if you have a good relationship with your dogs if your dogs love you and you love them it's like every day I wake up and I I I say to my dog good morning sir and he goes W he starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 mil an hour and he goes around circles and and we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly it's like we have a morning ritual I love dogs man oh it's nice it's nice they change your life they make your life filled with love you know cats are cool but they're kind of aloof you know they want to be pet and then they're they go away and they're cool they're they just want to go outside and kill something your your dog is like your friend he wants to hang out with you like I take him to work he's like are we going to work this is crazy we're go to work every day when I bring out the ball I think he's going to be bored with the ball I bring out the balls like today he's like enough with the ball but nope every day he's like the [ __ ] ball he's got the ball he's running around in circles jumping up in the air trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it it's amazing yeah that's that's what I hear a lot of dog owners over you're not having that experience no well not yet not yet he puppy he's like three uh is it three months old just spend time with him hang out with him play with him a lot Joe I'm I'm playing I'm just saying I'm I don't know if it's the cologne I got on but probably smell horrible him like what the hell is this probably smell like a chemical Factor like what the [ __ ] is this dude smell likeo I feel I feel I feel do you wear cologne I feel like you don't wear cologne do you wear work alone what do you mean you wear cologne wear cologne I thought you said work alone no no no I don't wear cologne No I barely wear I only wear deodorant because I don't want to be offensive because I will get offensive I I'll smell terrible but I wear natural deodorant with no aluminum in it and all that jazz of course you do yeah I don't don't uh I don't I don't smell you don't smell at all no are you sure can I smell you go righte how can you not smell I don't I don't have whatever it is that gives off any type of body odor I don't I don't have it I don't I don't have you been told this by someone or you just like deduced this on your own I I I've gotten sweaty many a times and I even asked my wife do I smell she say no so I don't I don't emanate any odor while I'm sweating interesting maybe your wife can't smell good no I'm telling you Joe believe me I'm very keen on odors all right so if I smell anything I I make sure that that's taken care odors are interesting because you know your your all Factory senses they detect changes in smell they don't detect static smells that's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse they don't freak out like my family used to live in Pennsylvania and when I would drive from New York to go visit them when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughter houses fertilizer it's [ __ ] terrible smell in the whole town like how can these people live here they don't smell it oh the nobody odor Gene that's what you have people have the abcc11 nonfunctioning gene variant have dry ear wax and little to no body odor now I've known this for some time right that I that I have no body odor but it's nice to come on the show because there's always a reference put up like I could have I I could have looked that up I I I never looked it up and here you come and you walk away knowing that you uh that you don't have the gene that emits odor yeah some sort of a gene expression interesting I wonder what the like benefits we were talking about this yesterday like people that didn't shower there was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin it was sinful you wanted discourage people where was that about that we were reading it was something religious right it was it was about like royalty and old timey people well but uh St Agnes is that who it was that went his whole life without bathing at all his whole life no bathing imagine I couldn't imagine that imagine what that guy smelled like imagine what his [ __ ] smell like what the [ __ ] dude have you gone recently last 10 years without taking a shower or cleaning yourself at least did you miss a day I've missed a day before yeah yeah but generally no because I work out so if I work out I always shower I always show and I I'll cold plunge and sauna so that's you know you just drench the sweat you feel like [ __ ] if you don't wash off a little no I I agree I'm just I I I think I might be showering too much how much do you shower Well normally get two showers in a day really sometimes three I feel like I feel like if I'm going to go to dinner say with my wife I feel like I can't take the day shower and Bleed it into the night I feel like it's a reset right get R for the for the dinner want to look nice you want to feel nice put that watch on put the watch on and go out have a nice bowl of pasta sweat to death at 2:00 in the morning do you use the eight sleep thing does it help you well it's again I got this eight sleep it's supposed to monitor your sleep right I got the aura ring supposed to monitor you know what I need what I need accountability I need to send the data to someone and have G someone change your lifestyle and have them analyze it and go oh you know what the problem is you're waking up at 1:00 in the morning and that's disrupting your sleep but I got all this data I got an Apple Watch oh I earn 390 calories okay what does that mean you know like there's no I have a lot of data I don't have a a lot of analysis all right do you have a trainer I have a trainer yeah maybe you should get a nutritionist you got some bread get a nutritionist get someone we could show the data to and they'll tell you what you're doing wrong all right I I need someone to hand over the data to they have they have like companies that do stuff like that okay yeah you can get that done yeah you should do that yeah I bet the late night eating thing is a real problem that that one makes you feel terrible when you what what's late night eating okay like some say all right you should have dinner at 5:30 6:00 and after that you don't eat if you go to bed around 9 9:30 what I mean what's a late night meal for you at 1:00 in the morning last night I was cooking elk steaks 1:00 in the morning yeah and then you go to well then you're up till 4:30 I was up till 3: yeah well I mean as long as you're not going to sleep I figure two three hours I think two three hours a good time to go to bed after a meal like that yeah a couple hours yeah but I've done it like where I eat and then go right to bed that's terrible that's terrible that's we have 8:00 at night we are eating next thing you know 8:41 we're in bed and I'm like is this healthy so you should go for a walk go for a walk right in your neighborhood I just saw something online that walking gonna share that hubman lab oh yeah there it is that's from Andrew huberman again um brief postmeal walks and blood sugar regulation so uh they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief postmeal walk as simple as it may sound the data is impressive and it is impressive stuff I forget exactly what the numbers were but you should what 30 35% the change in your blood sugar level is by taking a walk around the block after a meal pretty amazing with all this stuff that's out right all this information of how to live your life and you took me to tour you got the you got the the tank the the sauna the thing I feel like at this age at 50 all the stuff that you got to do to prepare for the day MH by the time you're done with it you got to go back to bed again right so by the time you work out do the cold plunge you're in the SAA you're in the tank and then it's time to go to B it's it's time to go to B with all the [ __ ] you got to do right used to be you just work out for an hour you took a shower and you went on with your day now I got to go submerge myself in in water I got to go sweat then I got to go float in a tank but the tank takes a lot of time but the other things don't take the float tank takes a lot of time but the other things like cold plunge adds three minutes to my day sauna adds 20 minutes to my day it's 25 extra minutes of my workout that's it no I I wasn't looking for the time breakdown Jo I was just saying but it doesn't take the whole day but I'm just saying the the amount of sh what the then you got to eat the vitam the half a cup and then you know but by by the time this is all said done it's time for dinner no no you get things done man just that you're exaggerating I I get you doing that it's the way you do humor I get it I love exaggerating it's plenty of time it's plenty of time you just don't waste your like today I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram it's one of the rare days I just felt like indulging myself I'm like let's [ __ ] see what's going on in the world bunch of nonsense some interesting things but just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour just wasted scrolling yeah I mean there's there's time there's mind- numbing things that you do to kind of like whatever carry yourself throughout the day I'm just saying 20 years ago nobody knew about any of this [ __ ] about about what you sweating and what that does now now with the the internet you could throw up you know before the internet if we were talking about walking right we would just go oh yeah no walk is good for you next thing you know now we got we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this that and the other thing I'm just saying with the amount of information out there sometimes I feel a little bit overwhelmed going how much do I how much do I got to do to get through the day well it depends on how you want to feel if you want to have a lot of energy like I do you have to do a lot of things and I I firmly believe this the reason why I'm so productive and I think if I didn't do the cold Pune and the sa and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy I'd be a completely different human being I know that's why I I wouldn't have the energy no I I I get it I'm just it it's just there's a lot you got to do mhm yeah there's a lot you got to do like I see people on the internet sweating so I'm like then I like okay do I got to start sweating you is the steam room that I got at home is that not enough do a couple calyptus sprays breathe in sweat a little bit and then I come out right okay but now do I need an infrared SAA because now I got to get the sweat that's inside that's not coming out the Ste what's happening Joe the infrared sauna is probably very good for you but there's not a lot of data on it like there is with the traditional dry sauna a traditional dry sauna there's a lot of very beneficial data and the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough cuz you'll cook cuz it's just too crazy you know you can't get 190° steam shower you'd literally go in there and scald your skin yeah but you can get 190 degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really [ __ ] sweat and that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins because your body's reacting to it overheating so it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect and that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life I mean there's a study out of Finland they did a 20e study that found that using the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at a time and I think it was 175° lowers your all cause mortality by 40% that means Strokes heart attack cancer everything lowers it by 40% and this is a long-term study of many many people so the the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam a steam at 120 is that doing anything on yeah it's all good a hot bath is good everything is good getting your body to heat up is good because it gets your body to react and it's just the same thing it develops those heat shock proteins a really hot bath is very good for you if you can get in a nice hot especially you get some Epsom salts in there you get that magnesium get a really hot bath very very good for you you know what I started doing talking about magnesium and I don't know if you've ever done this but I'm doing uh I got a little spray bottle of me magnesium I spray it on my feet at night and I put socks on you ever heard of that move no why do you do that saw it online let me try this I'm a guy I'm tell you right now this is what I do I don't do research none none I see that I go oh the guy spraying the Magnesium on his feet putting socks I'm going to try that tonight that's it that's it no Google search no Google search no nothing okay it could be killing me for all I know I don't think it is but I'm doing magnesium feet sock sleeps does it seem to have a change in the way you feel again haven't done it consistently enough to even find out if this is helping me right so I'm a guy that does like things kind of on the whim and there's really no consistency with it right let's look into it for you cuz magnesium foot spray that's I'm now I'm interested like what is the deal behind that there's definitely m mble products being sold for as magnesium oil for your feet I didn't see anything necessarily saying you need to keep socks on too I throw the socks on just because I want magnesium all over the trying to find like a source of um no that's what I'm doing like my wife is even looking at me going Jesus Christ is this is where we're at now I'm at the edge of the bed spraying my feet I'm like what she's like really magnesium on your feet is this where to Rel what the [ __ ] so I don't know if you could the internet probably don't even have this information I saw it like on a random uh I think it was an Instagram video well I would imagine it get absorbs Through Your Skin just like the float tank does the float tank is a great source of magnesium because there's a th000 pounds of Epsom salts in the water and your skin absorbs it so I would imagine your Skin's absorbing that stuff you're spraying on your feet yeah it just doesn't absorb it as well as like an oral supplement as well okay that's about all it says really yeah so not good absorption but it works a little bit okay pull something it can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions magnesium helps people sleep though right it's a good one for sleep yeah yeah I notic sometimes when I get those IV and there's magnesium in there I feel exhausted relaxed relaxed the I the IV again this is another thing people do right right oh you got to get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing right I don't even ask I just give me the bag whatever whatever you what and then I and I get it right don't feel any different no I don't you will if you're sick yeah if you're I tell everybody if you are down if you're you're feeling [ __ ] you run down get an IV vitamin drip it'll it's a game Cher especially with uh high dose of zinc and vitamin C you get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last I was like how long you been sick for he's like two weeks I can't shake this call I go please listen to me I just do this get a vitamin IV and he texts me the other day he's like Dr Rogan he goes it fixed me he was like I'm GNA do that from now on I'm like from now on anytime you're sick if you feel like [ __ ] get a high dose vitamin C zinc B12 the whole deal in a bag you'll feel you'll feel much much better cuz it gives your body the the tools it needs to fight off whatever the [ __ ] is trying to get you yeah Joe listen I've done the bag all right right while ill is it hasn't helped well it it it it's helped but not like where I came out of it like this is what I'm thinking if I take the bag and I got a cough after I take the bag the cough should go away I don't want the cough anymore and if the cough is still there I feel like all right have you ever done NAD no is rough how do you say it again nucleotide adid what is it nicotin y Adin Adine adenine dinucleotides oh yeah what is it so NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your uh telr lengthen which is a sign of uh healthy healthy bodies and young people found in all living living cells Ned is called D dinucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups so you take that in an IV bag and generally most people do it over a long period of time you do it over like two hours so you just watch a movie because it's very uncomfortable what to get it yeah the NAD is very uncomfortable it's very uncomfortable for your stomach makes you like crap up like if you do it quick it's like a it's a intense feeling that most people don't enjoy and what what's the uh what's the benefit what does it do there's a lot of benefits does it benefit for your immune system does it benefit cognitively you feel much better you just you you come out of it when your body's replenished with that stuff you just feel fantastic okay feel really good and something else I got but that's one that needs some time unless you can go hardcore and just like deal with the uncomfortable feeling I don't do anything hardcore nothing in my life is Hardcore interesting interesting do you have an aversion to hardcore things or is it just how it all panned out it's just all all panned out hardcore for me is uh hardcore is comedy that's what I do okay hardcore one thing one thing one thing you're all in on all in on Comedy but other than that outside I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have everything with me is a little bit on the surface do you really wish that because I feel like if you did wish that you would just do it right yeah I just wish I had the I don't know what it is inside me that would you know make me want to learn more about like I like cooking right but I don't dive so into it where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing right right right I let's look look at a YouTube video make that make the fish and then here's the fish but I don't take it to the another level I don't go get the beautiful knife or the the and pans and all the stuff that is goes along with cooking right my interest level is surface rarely does it go underneath the surface you know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood like live like actual hardwood not just lump charcoal like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks or or slowly like cooking the steaks rather and then searing them at the end over the coals I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood on underneath the grill and then sear the [ __ ] out of it okay I hear it I hear that yeah and my brain is going to explode like I like it it's too much too much too but we're all different Seb I know I know we're all different but like do you know the kind of wood yes that is live o you want Oak generally live oak or uh you want um if you want a grill hotter you like a lot of guys like mosquit I like mosquite and Oak those are my two favorite but I I'll try Cherry I'll try some different Woods some places you can go to get hardwood just for because there's so much barbecue out here yeah there's companies that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house okay speaking of wood right I got I got a pizza oven my goal nice is to make pizza it's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch the dough and the whole thing right it's very hard so I've tried multiple times and you know I'm the guy I'm again I'm a guy that I'll try it again and hope for a different result but I'll do the same same thing I did before right right just hoping magically oh it's GNA come out it's my pizza don't even look like pizza I don't even it looks like uh the the shapes are unrecognizable all right I can't even get a circle on the damn thing to work you know I work it out it just it it's not pliable enough so when I put it in there half of the cheese flies off into the to the to the stove I bring it out it's a mess why don't you get pre-made dough you can get pre I tried the pre-made dough Joe I I do and for whatever the reason I cannot get a circle with the thing I I you know I try this I bet if you went to like a real Italian Pizzeria they would show you how to do it again you went there Joe listen you teach me something I come home I forget half of the [ __ ] I learned I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything has this always been the case it's always been the but not with comedy not with that's why interesting the one thing that you're successful at like super successful at you've like focused entirely on that I got no more Focus oh the focus I have is for comedy after that the focus wains because I feel like I just don't have you know that's probably a good way to live yeah just just be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing that sounds like a good balance I don't think there's anything wrong with that well I would like to learn more things as I you know even when we got kids now you could teach your kids how to do the uh archery you got the whole archery thing you know hunting you know how to hunt right I'm trying to figure out what what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets is concern yeah I probably talking [ __ ] huh talking [ __ ] they're probably good at talking [ __ ] my kids are real good at talking [ __ ] they say some funny things man it's fun we have a fun house it's like a lot of fun [ __ ] talking yeah that's always that's always good then they make fun of me too which is fun like there's no uh you know I could never make fun of my parents they there's there was none of that growing up they would [ __ ] yell at you oh we had that relationship with my parents yeah you can't be Italian parents no no we did had Rel joking around yeah just around my parents were not like that no they didn't it was not a lot of joking around no so I love joking around and so they they're making fun of me all the time like it's hilarious your daughters yeah they're funny they're fun they talk [ __ ] and they know that I like it they know that I laugh so everyone's like we we have a good time but they talk [ __ ] to each other they talk [ __ ] to their friends it's like talking [ __ ] is fun it's like it's it's a fun activity it's one of the my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club is that everybody's talking [ __ ] you go back there everybody's busting balls cracking on people guys and girls everyone's laughing we're all just like [ __ ] on each other yeah it's it's hilarious and it's such a beautiful uh environment you know like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows and oh that's what I wanted I wish you were in last night I wanted to take you to the club yeah know I wish I would have came to the it's so much fun man it's such a great spot but here's my thing with that man okay here's my here's my here's my thing here's here's my take on the Green Room okay at a I generally tend to retreat and just listen to everything that's going on when comedians get together I'm never the guy like center of attention or or or uh contributing to the fun I I've always been the guy that just kind of comes in quiet and listen because I don't I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that like com so if I walk into a like here I just did the show with Seinfeld Nate batsi and and Jim gaffan and we all backstage I tend to be the one who's I listen and and I chime in every every now and again I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like pisses on the the room going that's actually good that's a good trait yeah yeah yeah and also when you're around those guys like hey what a great time to sit back and listen you got Seinfeld Nar and Jim gaffan in a room together look at that yeah so we had a great time but I'm when did uh that's that's crazy when did what I was going to say like look at you you look like an Arab it doesn't even look like you when did you turn into a guy from Palestine I don't know what is that photo what did someone do put a filter on you that does not look like you am I right Jamie just dark dark the guy he came off a yacht there's no other way like scroll looks like a guy in the Mediterranean shows you how to get octopus what's that I'm I'm I'm I got Mediterranean blood I know but you don't even look like you like in that F you look handsome don't get me wrong you look great but you don't look like you no you know what it is all the other everybody else is white they got that's what it is when you're next to Jim Gaff again right of course you're going to look like you uh delivering fish a balance there he looks like a normal color in that which is wrong yeah look how look at well that at least looks like you that other photo did not look like you all right maybe it was the liting Joe but that's me I was there I believe you I 100% believe you I'm just saying that go to that last photo Jamie I'm not lying right go to that last photo get the [ __ ] out of here that ain't you that's some that's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government and he came over here to make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to come over to the Middle East I know a lot of guys do comedy in the Middle East they give you like a list a [ __ ] you can't talk about I did it in ' 08 I went with the bunch of comedians that scares me a list of [ __ ] you can't talk about like what if I slip up yeah what if there's a moment in the crowd where someone yells something out and I think it would be funny to say something and whoopsies yeah there's a lot of editing now you're in jail yeah yeah um who had a problem with that uh who was it someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig almost got arrested it was Eddie if yeah he he the only thing that saved him I believe the story was I believe it's Eddie I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious they didn't have a problem with what he said at all but I think he called someone sir when you're not supposed to call him sir you're supposed to call him your highness or your Excellency and he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir and then they were trying to arrest him afterwards jeez yeah yo like sir's not good enough that's not even like I thought it was something no wasn't even that's why I'm nervous like that's not even I mean that's not even anything crazy that's nothing but your brand of humor did you take that and did you ever do corporates and that wasn't your style no no no no no no no no no no no no everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate after they do them they go why did I do that Ron White just did one he go this the worst [ __ ] experience in my life but they offer me a shitload of money and I said yes I kept saying no but they kept coming up with higher numbers and eventually I said yes and it was [ __ ] terrible Tony H Cliff just did one he said it was [ __ ] terrible they're always terrible you like them Joe I I got I gotta be honest with you you like them I don't mind a corporate really I really don't mind a corporate yeah you've had those awful corporate gigs where you know and but what percentage of I just ran into a Sandler he told me he ate dick at a corporate gig yeah I me Adam Sandler yeah they're not they paid to see Adam Sandler they knew Adam s was going to be there and it still sucked it's the environment sometimes it's like you're walking into whatever they just had their breakout meeting and then they're coming and oh it's comedy but it's just a different vibe uh they're all scamming about their careers they're all networking [ __ ] making their little backstabby moves but you call them you call them out on that you know you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the 3-day sales meeting at the vene you know so you kind of relate to I I I actually I don't I don't mind them as much as other you know comedians are corporate this I I actually don't mind the Jay Leno loves him yeah I mean that's where he's made the majority of his money Jay you know Jay Leno all those [ __ ] cars he has never spent a dime of his Tonight Show money I know it's never spent a dime puts it all in the bank it's amazing all that money all those cars it's all him doing gigs well here you didn't grow up with money right so now you're super successful you got this money was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to how to look at money in a way where you're like okay I have a good grasp on this uh yeah I mean money manager or what have you but I'm just talking your relationship with money is it like yeah you know we're here you know Live It Up spend it or is it more like do you ever think this is not going to be the most popular podcast ever or do you even do you even think that way I don't think that way I never thought it would be popular in the first place when I first started doing it there was just me and Brian Redban in my [ __ ] living room like and then comedians Joey Diaz come over Eddie Bravo comes over Ari comes over we're just having fun just talking [ __ ] I never imagined I didn't plan for it like when everybody has those vision boards like this is how you become successful you have to manifest it I didn't Manifest this at all zero most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot and I've put zero management into it the all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing and it turns out other people enjoy it too that's it it's just talk to people like yourself talk to funny people talk to interesting people talk to people I agree with talk to people I disagree with have civil conversations with people you disagree with things it's good for you too just all I do is just do what I enjoy doing if I could do this for free I would still do it okay I enjoy it so you do this podcast yeah you have no aspirations of this the hugest thing ever right I don't even have any aspirations for growth I don't say you know by this time next year I'd like to have nope no just you just focus on what I'm doing yeah output I feel like everything else is a distraction like as long as you're making enough money you know Brian count said something me once um and I never forgot it he said and we were kids we were in our 20s he said the only amount of money you need is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost everything else is [ __ ] if you got enough money we can go to a restaurant you don't worry just order a bottle of wine order meat order what whatever you want to eat you don't think about the price he goes that's real Freedom go everything else like all that other [ __ ] you forget that's all just becomes complicated you don't need that what you just real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills that's the real like I experienced that leap that jump uh when I got a development deal so I was like I guess I was 25 26 maybe 25 I got this development deal from um Disney and it was like $150,000 and I couldn't believe it I had $150,000 this is nuts and I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders CU back then I was a road comic you know you you do a gig on Thursday it's 200 bucks you do a gig here it's 150 you know you're scraping together enough money so that you could pay your bills and eat and you you you were always worried about gigs always trying to fill my book always trying to call booking agents drive to Connecticut drive to Jersey where do where do I got to go to make some money and it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it right trying to become like a like I didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian it could all go away and so I got that development deal and it was the nuttiest feeling the world it was like I felt lighter like I felt lighter and then I was like oh that's the key like get the monkey off your back get the bill monkey off your back and that's the real Freedom the real freedom is not being rich you don't feel any different being really rich other than the stuff that you can do then the but the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid that's what you want you all that other [ __ ] is like the other thing I noticed when I moved to California it was the first time I had a nice apartment and I'll never forget this either I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood had a LOFT at a pool table in my apartment I was like this is amazing how is this real how is this mine after a while it just became my house and then I realized like oh this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York it's the same feeling it's like oh this is home it's the same feeling it's not better it's not worth the amount of money that it cost if you're like renting a house that's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills it's not worth that it's it's what's worth it is if it's com if you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals you're good that's what you need that's all you need everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get all these other things leaves you in this constant state of anxiety and I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more and I just concentrate on what I do that's all I concentrate on I concentrate on work I concentrate on Comedy I concentrate on UFC fights I concentrate on podcasts and I don't think about those other things I don't think about the direction of my career at all well that's that's that's a great way to look at things because the only thing you really have control of is what you do what you do what you put out yeah so you being a Pioneer in the podcast world right you and what Mark Mar and I feel like we're kind of Adam Curry was the first Adam Curry was the original the the MTV VJ he's still got a podcast now he's excellent he's a good friend of mine and he he's the number one guy he's the podfather okay he's the podfather he he named it they started it off together yeah they they started doing it years before I ever did it and um yeah Mark had his a little bit before mine uh Adam Cora was the first because Adam did it off of radio so Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern slots when Howard Stern went over to Sirus remember that so he had this morning show and that morning show was doing real well until um do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in La before podcast there was like Tom leus was on it and um it was a bunch of good shows yeah and that also made me think about doing podcast too I mean I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing but I was like there's a talk radio station now like talk radio got so big mostly because of Howard I think but because but there there was a whole station where you could listen to the station it was all talk radio all day long there was a science guy on there late night I forgot what the hell his name was but yeah you're right there was like a station that had all these kind of mhm cool talk formats and what I'm saying is for for me I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting but for me I just remember you as being one of the first guys we were one of the first okay so now you're here when you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now do you go wow this is amazing that all these people are doing it um is is could anybody do this it feels like it feels like everybody has a podcast I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go wow look at the growth um as far as it's definitely a lot better yeah I'm I'm definitely better at talking to people yeah it's his skill you learn it it makes you a better conversationalist in the real world for sure makes you more considerate it's like comedy right I mean it's like you weren't the podcaster you were how long right this podcast like 15 years 15 years somewhere around there closing in on 15 years yeah so it took 15 years to get it to I mean obviously you've been successful for longer than but it yeah it took a long ass time took a long ass time and and and and I I think nowadays it's just there's amount of time you got to put into something in order for it to be a gem yes but you know even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it has entertainment changed where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house there's a guy I've been watching this insane his name is he's catching eggs in his mouth right do you see this guy insane uh insane I forget the name of it insane Shane this guy catches eggs from how far away 50 yards they're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth he's got the best mouth on the internet right does he break the eggs or does he catch them and not have like hard uh hard like hard oil or a meatball oh this guy's chucking meatballs and he's catching them in his mouth 50 yards that's a skill so I'm watching it and I can't yeah this is this this okay okay the marshmallow [Laughter] combine he's he's not catching all of them no he's he's catching them he's catching them and then spitting them out oh my God that's insane one of these guys threw it 50 who throws a marshmallow 50 yards yeah I think I think they're like ex the they're like X football players or the guys that are throwing the guy's doing routes catching marshmallows in his mouth this is crazy people who try to block him that's crazy and he's catching the marshmallows that's amazing okay so that's a skill it's so I'm watching this now right this is entertainment now okay he's got a million followers Saye Shane one sh sh ha y he's diving off uh speedboats catching him in his mouth I mean look at this guy who would have ever thought that that that would be a thing oh he dives into a this is a real oh well this is real football so has enter is has entertainment in your eyes changed where it's changing where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show well it's definitely consuming a lot of your time I mean if you look at your screen time like if look at my screen time on my phone on an average day it'll be more than 4 hours and how much of that is Doom scrolling a lot a lot so that's Entertainment so would I have been watching television during that time no probably not because you could take your entertainment with you now which is even more distracting yeah but you're not watching you said he did an hour of Instagram you're not watching like a a movie or a documentary sometimes I am yeah I mean I I I I spend a lot of time doing that too but I do that in certain places like I'll watch a documentary on an airplane or I'll watch something at home right but generally don't take my phone and I'm walking around the house watching documentaries right because sit down you would sit down and and enjoy that but this is something that I would probably if I was on my phone from the kitchen to the bedroom I'm watching a guy catch catch marshmallows in his my question to you is okay if the internet or social media wasn't around MH do you think that guy would be around do you do you think this he wouldn't be doing that but do you think this was existing 30 years ago where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching him just for fun and we didn't see it there's probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it and everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face yeah I'm sure but it just never would have been the discipline that it is now where this guy's got like [ __ ] guy's blocking him and he's juking left and right and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth it's pretty impressive stuff so do you think the social media and internet spawns this type of stuff 100% 100% yeah 100% And it is a new form that's another thing you could say about podcasting too because before podcasting no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music right most of the time unless you're listening to talk radio of course but now the podcast thing is like you could pause it at any time you can start any time so if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two-hour road trip now now you're occupied now the road trip's easy cuz now you're driving but now you're listening to some funny [ __ ] [ __ ] and Joey Diaz is telling stories and it's great I mean so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available it wasn't being utilized before and so what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other [ __ ] I don't think most people who consume podcast just sit there and listen or sit there and watch I think a lot of times like maybe maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in you're listening to a podcast or while you're driving or while you're on the [ __ ] treadmill and you're bored you get to listen to some interesting [ __ ] and I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane it was hilarious you guys were killing me like that kind of stuff is or hey there's this guy with that power plant you uh Egyptian pyramid guy you believe that what do you think about that I was in the gym it was kind of freaking me out so it gives you like this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before that's not it's not completely useless right like the scrolling for stuff and the the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth I'm not getting anything out of that it's fun yeah it's interesting it's kind of useless but podcasts are not and you know you you do get to sit in on interesting conversations you get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before so it wasn't available before and because of phones and because everybody had it's so easy to get a podcast everybody has access to them do you listen to podcast yeah all the time are you going to them for uh comedy or more informational podcast what's your what's your Forte I listen to a lot of different podcast I listen to uh podcasts that are comedy podcasts I listen to history podcasts I listen to podcast about science I listen to podcasts about you know pretty much everything hunting podcast you know which are very valuable hunting P because a hunting is uh it seems easy like the idea seems easy to people it's not it's really hard and there's a lot of things that people learn along the way on in their journey of hunting and they'll explain it to you and so that if you encounter that I'll say oh Remy Warren said when you do this be careful of that now that's in my head you know so it's just like a c it's a way that you can accumulate information yeah yeah no I I I I listen to this huberman yeah he's great and half of the stuff goes over my head you know like there's he's hard he's hard you got to make even when I do podcasts with him I have to make notes I make notes then I ask him afterwards and you know but he's very fact-based and he's a great guy too I have I have to ask you this talking about humor and you've interviewed them do you ever have somebody come on this show where you're nervous to have them like oh man this is oh yeah definitely like who are you nervous to interview Roger Penrose is a Nobel Prize winner he's a just just a brilliant mind and older you know so I'm like how is this conversation going to go how do I engage him I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here so I want I want to be prepared have good questions and yeah I don't know how much of experience those guys have on podcasts or how much of an experience they have at all with comedians you know I don't want to [ __ ] around too much I just want to just get the most out of him that I can get like I just want to try to like massage his wheels and and ask the right questions and and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to to know what the right questions are yeah and what I'm actually and also very fascinated by his research so I really it's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person you know like his he's done uh a lot of research in the Big Bang he's got a very interesting thought about the big bang that he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe and that's uh something that a lot of physicists are considering now it's ve it's very fascinating stuff the idea that the universe is eternal or much older than we think it is yeah that's crazy I mean you got to be a chameleon man you got so many people different different people coming in here right from Comedy to you know doctors to to what have you and you got to like adjust you do have to adjust yeah to every different personality it's just an art form but it makes you more flexible as a person too like you have con conversations with all kinds of people absolutely absolutely I mean it's better it's I I like it it's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast you know 2009 I was very closed-minded I just was doing it just for fun I mean I was open-minded generally but not like I am now I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought and what my biases are and why why I think of things in certain ways instead of like considering them from like a broader perspective but when you do a podcast you kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times when um even if I agree with someone about something I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like but what about this yeah so instead of just confirming them and US existing in an echo chamber I I'll try to offer consideration like okay but why someone could think of it this way do you think of it this way ever have you ever tried to think of it this way and just like see you know how their brain works because everybody's brain is you know they're different you you know you have children and one of the things you find out when you have children is but bro right out of the box they're different people they are different people it's fascinating yeah cuz you you know you meet a kid and he's four you're like look at that smart kid what an interesting kid but you you don't you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister all of them coming out of the same woman and going this is all from the same father like this is nuts they're totally different things they have different personalities different likes different different strengths you know it's really interesting yeah it's crazy to see I mean my daughter and my son the differences between them and you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own and you actually see it going wow this one's outgoing this one's shy this one likes piano this one likes te- ball so it's like and me even me and my sister you have brothers and sistersister I mean my sister and I although very similar also very different um and it's it's it's really crazy as a parent to and also you want to you know you want to give them structure you want to give them kind of the best things you grew up with from your parents and then put those you know give them to your kids as well but you also want to see them flourish in their own personality so you know the parenting thing is you know I take it extremely serious like uh I I want to give I want to be there for my kids I want to you know I want to I don't want to work so much where you know you know like even even coming to Austin Texas for podcasts or going to Dallas for a show it's like yeah you have to think about that yeah it never used to think I I would be like book it just get it just book it and now it's more like hey you know are we coming to this run are you guys gonna come to New York bring my family so that helps a lot that helps me a lot if I could take my family with me you know I take them with me a lot of times on Vegas UFC trips too it's nice yeah it's nice especially now that the kids are getting older that they could travel more also Vegas is a fun place to do stuff you know there's other stuff we could do before the fights and stuff like I don't know if you ever done Escape rooms you ever do Escape rooms no esape rooms are fun fun I've I've I I'm claustrophobic and this just happened to me recently don't get in that tank then don't get in that I sensory deprivation tank know if I could do that it happened to me on an airplane oh no uh sitting at the window seat it just overcame me I I got to get out of here and ever since then like I get I have to have an aisle seat if I go to a theater and watch show I have I can't be confined even came out of nowhere out of nowhere on an airplane wow wow and I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight attendants and like stand the rest of the the time wow so did you tell them what was going on yeah I said listen I'm freaking out said you know I'm crawling out of my skin I'm sitting next to two people I feel like I'm trapped I can't get out so I'm very anxious now if I get on an airplane and here here's one okay get out an airplane I I hate hate to do this but there's a family and the and the father's like do you mind changing seats so my daughter could sit next to me I said where's the where's the seat and he's like it's it's the window seat and I go I I can't I can't go over there because I'm claustrophobic and of course he was looking at me like I was making it up because I would have right you know I mean somebody told me me that I let this [ __ ] [ __ ] won't let me sit with my daughter but it's so bad where I just I can't sit in at the window well he could always ask somebody else you know he could just ask someone else yeah but but you were by yourself I feel like I I feel like I let him down yeah I'm sure you did yeah I'm never that guy I'm always very Cooperative whatever we need I always move seats I'm always worried about other people freaking out like there was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was going to take the plane down this guy stood up in the middle you see that that guy Jamie I've seen a few I don't know there's a few lately that's what I always worry about I worri I worry about someone freaking out I worry about another person that you're going to have to deal with I feel though if somebody's freak think he stabbed people didn't he stab someone he had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple of people yeah he he was saying that he was going to take everybody out like oh God I feel if you're on an airplane mhm and that's happening you would be one of these guys that would would handle it right yeah the problem with handling it is um you're probably going to get sued and you might even get arrested and depends on how much damage you do you know you could permanently damage someone you could you people are very flipping about beating people up but you you could easily permanently damage someone no I I believe me I I believe you can I'm just saying you have that uh I think that instinct you know like what's the problem where I I have more of an instinct of is there a Joe Rogan on the plane no I was on a plane once and a lady to asked me if I would help her cuz these two guys were fighting one guy uh got in first and he put his briefcase above this other guy's seat and then he sat down and then the guy who was right behind him goes no no no that's my spot that's my seat that spot over he goes no it's not it's first come first serve put it somewhere else it was open I put it in there and he goes no that belongs to my seat and then they started getting like belligerent with each other it start it started getting like to the point where like oh my God are these kids going to fight in first class and so then this [ __ ] lady who is the um the flight attendant she came in and told them both she was going to have them removed from the plane sit down and shut up and then she came to me and she goes if anything goes down you're going to help me right I okay I was like what do you want me to do cuz if I'm going to help you it's it's going to get real messy are you going to say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy like you're you know I'm not going to like I'm not going to play nice if you're on a plane and you've got to take someone out you have a very short amount of move it's got to be very violent you got to debilitate them you you got to like take them apart right there you can't like hope that you can hold on to them and then they relax then what you go back to your seat they're not going to you got to put them out yeah you got to you got to risk you got to risk you know as you're talking to me I feel like you're going through a bunch of different moves of what you could possibly do it's got to be violent if you're going to if you got a guy like that with a knife you're not grabbing that guy you're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and and holding him down you're going to beat his [ __ ] brains in you're going to stop his body from moving because otherwise it's dangerous like you you're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational possibly schizophrenic who knows what the [ __ ] going on with this guy and he he could kill everybody Pastor stabs fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight okay so what's going on he fashioned a handmade weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the AIS yeah flying flying used to be look at his P so he developed made a weapon out of his pens he tied all his pens together and held on to them wow he he said uh I planned on attacking and killing him the defendant stated Jesus Christ defendant felt the mafia had been chasing him the last few months yeah so you go so he's schizophrenic and you know they don't have [ __ ] scans for that when they bring him in oh during the interview the defendant admitted to the FBI agent that he was trying to stab CR in the eye to reach cr's brain to kill him okay and said he was protecting his seven-year-old son so that's awesome the victim's wife was also hurting the attack she was shielding the couple's seven-year-old son Jesus Christ man so this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him what's going on on airplanes why is there all this violence now on airplanes first of all there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing so there's like a people are more belligerent towards Authority so you have that and then you have the the general heightened level of anxiety of the population postco went up substantially covid [ __ ] a lot of people's lives up we got lucky we were very fortunate we make money we were able to make money during the pandemic we had enough money to be okay a lot of people that's not the case so so many people lost their businesses so many people lost their livelihoods so many people people have a a deep distrust for the government and the world now and then there's this thing where people are being cuddled for being mentally ill where you're you're you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about it makes you interesting so I think people encourage mental illness they encourage breakdowns and they do it all the time in the real world and so they think they could do it on [ __ ] planes and then you got genu genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their [ __ ] minds who really shouldn't be out there in the world and you know they think the mafia's after him and they're making a [ __ ] handmade shank while they're sitting in 16a you know the the whole thing's nuts and it's just like I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before and I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media you're being fed every day the worst [ __ ] that's happening in the world Gaza Ukraine you know the [ __ ] Ocean's boiling oh my God what is happening pu Putin's doing this and XI ping is in control of that and the [ __ ] bord open ah fentel ah you know it's just like everyone's on edge so you get all those people and you stick them in a [ __ ] tube and then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really there's no authority figure on that plane there's these women these poor women or men or whoever they are those flight attendants that have to [ __ ] deal with these people and most of them are just regular people they're not I mean they do have uh those God guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally what do they call those guys Marsh yeah yeah what do they call them Air Marshal I think they stopped doing that they stopped doing that oh great of course they did all the security right to get go to the airport all the security to to get on the plane once you're on the plane no security like they got they got security guy walking around Whole Foods making sure you don't steal an apple yet you're uh 35,000 ft up and what the flight attendant's going to subdue a guy with uh with I mean exactly and who's going to get hurt along the way what if he did stab that guy in the eye you know like Jesus Christ you know even Mike Tyson got in a [ __ ] fight on a plane some guy kept [ __ ] with him he turned around and beat the [ __ ] out of the guy and now Mike's getting sued yeah I saw that yeah that guy should go to they should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible you got to live here now what's what's uh what you take on this Tyson thing I go back and forth um I don't generally like the idea of 58-year-old men fighting um it seems crazy risky at this point of your life you're definitely going to be slower you're definitely going to be your reflex is going to be slower you can't take shots as much but I don't think that a 50-year-old man today or 58-year old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 8ye old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement so because of nutrition hormone replacement science of recovery and they've got my Tyson doing everything he's doing all kinds of things he's not a regular 57y old guy and then you see him hit the paths and you go Jesus Christ man I mean this is a terrifying human being I mean he's still [ __ ] terrifying hitting the bag hitting the pads the he still has the ability to deliver those punches and if any one of those hits anybody they're [ __ ] you're [ __ ] he's not it's not like his punches are you know 30% of what they used to be they're like 80 to 90% of what they used to be yeah somewhere in that range it's probably a little slower than he used to be he used to be insanely fast there's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19yearold and he's throwing these combinations like and he's 210 PBS 215 lbs throwing combinations like sugar a Leonard like it's it's insane to watch he was so fast and that was a big factor in his success he does not have that kind of speed anymore but he's still fast he's not slow but Joe I mean we're just we're watching a 58y old man crazy right now now if you 30 40 years ago looked at a I was watching the um We Are the World documentary and I'm looking at the people Kenny Rogers is in that and I'm going I'm probably 60 years old here right and I look he's 47 in right 47 years old in the we are of the world so the the aging process has I mean there was no way 58 years yeah this guy's 47 that's crazy you're younger than I am that's crazy he looks look he's he's 10 years younger than me in that video yeah yeah so yeah the 58y old man now look at young ass Billy Joel Tina Turner Willie Nelson looked young damn hold will else in there I know he's 100 in this video no how old think is he's 90 now I know how old he is 52 years old in that video is he really yeah it's amazing wow so you're right 58 years old is it's very different different what was Foreman when when he came back 45 when he won the title 33 I think he was 33 or 36 when he was coming back and everybody was mocking him and then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years old he's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title and that was before hormon that's what I'm saying I think I think Tyson is a 45y old foreman no yeah he's it's similar I mean Foreman wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now Tyson's still faster but he's smaller too George is a very big man George has enormous he has hands that are like the size his fists are like the size of the cigar box they're [ __ ] giant fists which is a big factor in punching power you know this was George at 45 years old and Michael Moore who was a Sensational light heavyweight was kind of undersized as a heavyweight mhm as a light heavyweight he was a [ __ ] assassin uh but George caught him with a onew and put him out at 45 years in a fight he was losing I Michael Moore was out boxing him but here here even at 45 he don't look like boom you don't look like no Tyson at 58 though right no he was much slower but George was always kind of slow he just has thunderous power was never like a real fast guy like Ali or any of those other guys he was just thunderous ridiculous power George was just terrifying and I don't know the ins and outs of boxing but is this Logan Paul is he a is he a legitimate boxer a legitimate boxer yes people mocked me when I was saying that before but now I think people are coming around and the way I look at it I say if this kid was not a YouTuber if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube and you just saw him box and you saw him knock out former UFC Champions you saw him beat legitimate boxers or beat athletes and beat a bunch of MMA fighters you'd go this kid can [ __ ] fight he knows how to fight like it's not it's not nothing he's doing looks wrong he's not like sticking his head straight up in the air and winging punches with his eyes closed he's fighting well he looks good and if he was just an upand cominging Boxer that was this exciting like highly promotable like really good at selling fights he'd be like this kid's the future he's really something special and the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson even if Tyson's 57 just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do because that's what he's doing the the gamble is like there's not a [ __ ] chance in hell that Jake Paul would survive against the Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frasier you ever watched that fight that's my favorite Mike Tyson fight cuz that was Mike Tyson before he won the title it was ABC Wide World of Sports and Joe Frasier was had been talking [ __ ] about Tyson that if he was in his prime he' beat Tyson and so he had his son fight Tyson and it was an execution it was an execution is that the one in Atlantic City where it lasted one round one round let's let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch Tyson because it's Tyson in his prime where he was [ __ ] terrifying he was so fast and he would do angles and he was bobbing and weaving you couldn't hit him and he was just coming at you and he was young he was 20 years old at the time he he was he couldn't be stopped no one had the solution and I I submit that that Mike Tyson the Mike Tyson that won the title against Trevor berbick the Mike Tyson that beat Larry Holmes I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time I don't think anybody [ __ ] with him he just didn't maintain that form and he wed up losing to Buster Douglas and you know it's I look at Fighters when they're in their absolute prime like what what did you what have you ever seen that was better than this and with Mike Tyson I've never seen anybody better I've never seen any fighter even Ali in his prime even Ali when he was Cash's clay I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime I think it just you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy look at I mean Marvis looks [ __ ] terrified and he should be cuz he kind of knows I mean Marvis was a good fighter Marvis was a good fighter but this is just a terrifying mismatch like if I had if I was a Vegas odds maker I would put this at a million to one I'm like he has to break his leg like he has to fall down and twist an ankle like otherwise he's so Tyson was 20 and Frasier was 25 five so do you think this is this is the last we see of a guy like a Tyson is there another Tyson out there or is it they can always emerge Combat Sports always so this is the beginning of the fight look he's just moving forward and Frasier is just trying to just Bob and weave and find his openings but Mike never gives you any time man he never gives you any time he's always right in front of you and he's just measuring you and it's just a matter of time before he catches you and here it is Bing look at oh wow oh wow I bro he just puts him away just puts him away it's an execution it was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance this Mike Tyson as fast as he was as hard as he hits I maintain he's the greatest yeah I me the greatest heavyweight ever like that Mike Tyson those fights were you wanted to see executions you didn't think anybody was going to beat him everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring I don't I don't think we see this again Joe you never know it can happen Jake Paul's favored he's a favorite yeah well he's 27 years old and he's a really good boxer he's a he's a very good boxer like he's a legitimate professional boxer he fought Tommy Fury who's also a legitimate professional boxer a real good one he's you know he's um Tyson Fury's younger brother and he lost a close decision but it was a good fight a real good fight against a good fighter he can fight yeah but if that Mike Tyson from Marvis Frasier fought Jake Paul Jake Paul's dead he's dead he's not going to make it so you have to say how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20-year-old guy in the 37 years since then which is CRA it'll be 38 by the time they fight he'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight yeah but that's the best it gets right the best it gets the best it gets 37 years you got to feel like it's it you know yeah he's lost some but he hasn't lost everything he hasn't lost not but he's lost some but coming from the best he's now like maybe just normal right he's still not normal but he's still like a professional heavyweight boxer he's he's still terrifying no I'm I'm not I'm not saying he's not but I'm just saying even even coming off the best I still think he he wins coming off it's hard to say because you never bet on against a 27y old fighting a 58y old I just what I have in my brain and I can't get out is that you know what I'm saying like it's also his mind you know like Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war like he was doing this interview and um someone said to him he goes he goes you look like you're in your 20s like what are you doing he goes I just eat raw meat he not eating raw meat he goes you're eating raw meat he goes yeah I'm eating raw meat he goes because that's what I'm going to eat when I fight I'm going to eat him him was raw meat yeah see I like Jesus Christ he's in this [ __ ] mode he's in that God of War mode and that he's still got that in him and I'm telling you if you keep giving that guy hormones and you keep giving that guy supplements and you keep and he's constantly training here this look at this what are you eating raw meat like seriously Mike you're eating raw meat are you are you swallowing it or remember you used to spit that stuff I'm might have to eat it now because my opponent going to be raw meat that's right did you like 20 now now I saw the beginning of this interview where he had a shirt on right and he was sweating so much he had to take it he took his shirt off and they just put the microphone on his shoulder yeah bro he's in Savage mode right now he's in Savage mode I if I was Jake Paul right now I would be [ __ ] my pants Oh bro if I saw if I'm fighting this guy and he and I see he's eating raw meat I call the [ __ ] thing off it's all it's all the experiences that he has had as a conqueror you have to take those into consideration when a man has smashed men before just smashed men like when no one can stand in front of him that is in his mind still that's in there there's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up yeah and I think he's got it open the question is can his body move along with it but that part of his mind like you're clearly seeing he's terrifying when he's in the zone I changed the shape of the table because of him this table was uh we we had uh the table that was this size at the old studio and the new studio I was like maybe will make the table smaller it'll be more intimate it'll be closer to the guest so we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 lb and he was just eating and having fun and smoking weed he goes I don't even work out he goes if I work out it excite myself it'll excite my ego and then I I don't like that person so he just decided that he was just going to be chill Tyson and then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr yeah so he gets in insane shape and the next time I see him the second podcast we do Mike now weighs 230 lbs and he's got these muscles in his forearms so he's sitting there and he's a different human he's so intense that I was like if this table was closer to him I would be nervous like I wouldn't be able to do my best job as a podcaster I literally this the reason why this table is this with is the second podcast I did with Mike Tyson even Jamie when Jamie when Mike left Jamie's like that's a different person it's a totally different person right I was nervous the whole time I was so glad I was close to the door hoping he for you first so intense he was so intense and that was a fight with Roy Jones Jr where he just decided you know to have one more Legends fight and he got like look at him dude he's just what the hell what do you mean getting excited me seriously Mike oh you you got both things playing at the same time hold on a second you had animosity towards so when you finally get your hands on them hey um what does it means um when fighting gets you gets you erect what does that mean it's a good question gee means you're getting excited yeah so that that's going through your mind right now what that's how I get when I was a kid and I you know sometimes I get the twinkle the twinkle yeah well that's what I'm saying it's like you reached a state as a human being as a champion as a ferocious fighter you reached a state of of ability and of accomplishment that very few humans will I don't know if you can hear him breathing he's breathing it's like a lion running when you're hitting the bag when that heart's beaten again and I'm firing them up right now you're Mike [ __ ] Tyson so when you're doing this [ __ ] again you're still Mike Tyson those thoughts have got to be burning inside you again it's got to be pretty wild I don't know it's um it's wild but um I believe it's um it's rightfully so to be that way and I just know how to um I don't think I I mask it but I just know how to deal with it I don't let it overwhelm me no well of course not it's a strange conversation to have cuz he was like so focused and so intense tense you know it was it was almost hard pulling conversation out of him at any time did you feel afraid I'm always afraid with him around that guy Kevin Hart said it best he goes it's like being in a room with a lion like even if the Jamie Fox's old joke is like someone let a pull let loose in the room and they don't know who it is and Jam's got to play him in a mic a movie which has got to be terrifying like don't piss that guy off I never talk like that oh sorry sorry sir I'm I'm curious I'm going to watch the fight we're all going to watch the fight I'm going to watch it I mean it's a brilliant move by Jake because like if he was going to fight anybody else people would watch but would the same amount of people watch no no this is the one and this is the one where the old heads are all sitting around like going ah what [ __ ] wait till he gets a hold of Mike Tyson boy he's going to regret that and all the old guys are like pulling for him like come on Mike come on one more you got one more in you well I think we see a different Mike Tyson than we did when he fought uh Roy Jones right I think the Roy Jones fight they made in agreement not to punch in the head I'm pretty sure because I watched that fight carefully many times and it that never looked like he was targeting Roy's head which makes sense why Roy agreed to do the fight M you know I think they probably made an agreement it would be like a real boxing match but just don't knock me out because Roy is a smaller person much smaller Roy was the at his very best when he was 168 lb and then when he was weighing a 175 lbs he he you know he didn't even have to cut weight he was playing he Roy famously played a basketball game a full basketball game the day of his fight wow played a basketball game and then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds wow you know that's how good Roy was in his prime but Roy was 168 pounds in his prime he wasn't Mike Tyson size Mike Tyson's [ __ ] enormous he's a just a different Mass he's the width the density it's terrifying and if they're older guys I could imagine them making an agreement because if you watch the highlights Mike never punches him in the face and even if they do punch each other in the face it seems like it's just like Jabs and small punches it does you know like almost like sparring shots it's not like anybody's like really like winding up you know really like really like throwing everything at it this fight doesn't have that stipulation no I do do not believe that's the case I think this fight is going to be a real full boore 100% fight it's not even an exhibition it counts on their professional record so it's a professional fight oh okay yeah is it eight rounds it's eight two minute rounds but yeah they they made it two-minute rounds because Tyson's old and they they were going to do 16 ounce gloves with it down to 14 I believe is that the case I think they're 14 o gloves which is not not much bigger than a regular glove you know regular glove is 10 ounces in the heavyweight division 6 ounces in lighter divisions I think they use eight in some divisions too but most like big guys use 10 o gloves yeah it's just it's again talk about the change of entertainment even in the boxing world we interviewed Dana White on our podcast and he's got I'm sure you're aware of the slapping thing right yeah now is that just if if I slapped you right right now right uh is that different than taking a punch not at all no it's terrible for you yeah you they're basically agreeing to brain damage they're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head because you have to get slapped you have to stand there and get slapped and the only thing that could save you is if your slap is so good and you win the coin toss or whatever the [ __ ] they do to decide who slaps who first yeah slap that guy unconscious and then it's over and it happens guys get slapped UNC I mean it's you're literally taking a full-on blow to the face your hand can hit pretty hard if you just think think of that yeah try doing that with your knuckles that's hard to do it hurts yeah yeah it doesn't hurt at all when you do that you can slam so you could really [ __ ] slap someone you know guys have knocked guys out slapping them many times it's not hard to knock you could KO some he boss rutin was uh one of the you know alltime greats in MMA and he started his uh fighting in an organization called pancreas and pancreas in Japan this is the early days like as the UFC was just emerging they started doing fights with no gloves on but they said instead of punching you could only slap so with boss routon he's got very flexible wrists so he would pull his hands way back like this and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands so he wasn't throwing him like you would think like a [ __ ] slap he was throwing punches with his palms he was uppercutting guys and knocking them unconscious with his palms so that is what you're agreeing to when you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting a guy [ __ ] you in the head you're agreeing to getting you could easily get ko'ed easily get your jaw broken easily get your eye socket shattered are these X this is boss so look how see how he dropped that guy with that Palm strike but the way he throws it it's like a punch boss was a [ __ ] animal he was an animal like terrifying human being great guy but man in his prime he was just destroying people he was one of the first highlevel Strikers that made his way into uh mixed martial arts and he eventually became the UFC heavyweight champion was he uh what was he uh kickboxer from Holland the motherland of kickboxing oh yeah some of the alltime greats came out Holland yeah for one for whatever strange reason it was like um it was a background of kyokushin and a lot of them got into kickboxing and Muay Thai and there was a guy named Ramon Deckers who's like to this day one of the most legendary muay thai fighters of all time this dude who came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just [ __ ] everybody up you ever se you ever heard of Ramone Deckers show Ramone Decker's highlight re he was like a mini kickboxing Mike Ty yeah this dude was a monster cuz a lot of the guys that went over the Thailand they were bigger than the ties but Ramone Deckers was the same size as the ties but he was just [ __ ] ferocious look at this [ __ ] bro he he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused Jesus and his doctor was like you have to stop fighting or you know you're going to lose your foot and he was like yeah yeah yeah whatever just [ __ ] Bolt this thing down so I can get back at it again I mean his highlight reel is just [ __ ] terrifying it's just him mauling people but these these kicks right I mean doesn't it hurt the kicker as much as it does no not as much but it definitely hurts I mean especially if you hit the InStep on like an elbow or something like that yeah but shins shins are pretty good at tolerating pain my Joe come on I mean I I I hit my shin uh on on the my bed frame I'm down yeah that's just well you get conditioned you know you get conditioned to the point where you can you can bang your shin against things it doesn't even hurt don't these guys train on trees yeah they train on banana trees come on man in in Thailand they'll do they kick banana trees but banana trees are pretty soft you can kick a banana tree and they they give out they give a little bit when you hit them it's not like a regular tree I've never seen a banana tree have you been I've been around a banana tree in Thailand I kicked one just to see what it was like because I seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them yeah they're it's not the worst thing to kick it gives a little bit so there it is see cuz it gives oh yeah see how it gives when he's kicking it it it's flexible like you could actually train on a banana tree it's not a bad thing to train on it's right and half yeah see it's it moves it's really not that much different than a heavy bag it just looks crazy is like my God he's kicking a tree yeah yeah but uh there's heavy bag like we have a heavy bag out there in the gym that's uh my friend Kevin Ross gave it to me and it's filled with sand and that's just to condition your shins that one's horrible that one you kick it's like what are they normally usually it's cushioning like there's foam and then it depends on what the stuffing is sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that and the whole idea is it's really packed down tight and it's heavy so it's like 130 150 lbs and it's long and you could do leg kicks on it and but the sand one is just hard as a rock it's just thud thud and you do that just to condition your shins that's the one you you practice on just to condition yourself yeah I wish I could do some of this stuff with the I've always wanted to get into a fighting just for self-defense right but I have uh detached my biceps so I I have holes in my uh my arm I have no uh no bicep well I have a bicep but just the not the the short one is is gone how did it detach woke up and uh nobody what really yeah nothing happened there's no trauma that I could P pinpoint that this happened now I I have kids I was putting them in the car maybe it came no it didn't feel nothing really looking in the mirror one day and I go I to brought my wife over I go is there a ho in my arm it's nuts now I show you let me see oh wow I've seen guys have that before um my friend Matt Sarah has that he has like his bicep when he makes a bicep like half of it is missing okay it's like it curled up on one side Matt Sarah is a fighter yeah yeah yeah I'm a comedian yeah and I got a hole in my arm that is odd but you have most of your bicep yeah but that's uh and on this side too the same side that one did you go to a doctor yeah he say there nothing you can do about it but he said it's detached it's gone and you don't know why don't know why weird both so then I'm thinking do I got some weird Mediterranean type disease where like [ __ ] starts detaching people from s my dad's got it really but he put a uh Luggage in the overhead compartment that's what his snapped his bigger bicep is living in his elbow oh Jesus and uh you can get that fixed if you do it right away right away I didn't catch it right away so well it seems like with you there was no trauma which doesn't even make any sense no sense everybody I know that's done that like it's usually boxing or Jiu-Jitsu or lifting weights or something like that it's painful as [ __ ] instantly there's a video of a guy doing curls and as he's doing curls his biceps snaps and curls up and you see it like ah yeah it's horrible it's horrible it's horrible and I've heard the same thing it's it's painful but I have no pain no nothing well it doesn't seem like it affects your range of motion either no there's no so you can do everything there's no problem but now I'm thinking can't I even work out the bicep CU I'm afraid that one's going to snap no you should because if you don't the bicep is not going to be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one yeah definitely you you're fine you're fine yeah you could do everything you just got to get strong just let's just strengthen all the surrounding tissue you're fine what's the ODS of a guy who doesn't really do any strenuous no tennis no nothing like that to lose both of his biceps right by by 50 right and now I got it in my head that everything's going to fall apart everything's going to snap yeah but you you haven't lost your biceps your biceps are there it's like whatever that other thing is that attaches that's not there anymore but I don't think you need that I think you're fine I wouldn't worry about it I legitimately I wouldn't worry about it I would just start working out I just like get really into like strengthening everything around it that's what I especially since you can't fix it can't fix it but Matt does everything I mean Matt is a black belt Jiu-Jitsu and his his biceps way worse than yours his is pulled all the way up to the top so like at the bottom like like when you make a a muscle like this part he doesn't have this part yeah it's just flat my and it's like a little bit up here I've seen a bunch of people who have that okay that's a common thing yeah I'm just shocked that it happened so early in life that it doesn't make sense that it didn't hurt at all that seems weird strange but you seem like you have full range of motion if you keep everything I'm I'm I'm active don't worry but I used to love biceps I'm Italian they're still there I used but listen Al alone in a mirror with the shirt off you don't like it no us to used to love doing bicep stare yourself yeah doing biceps it was my my favorite my favorite exercise get the thing and and oh yeah I literally never do that I never do BPS ever well growing up that's what we always used to do 20s 30s 40s who you doing today buys right and curls for the girls curls for the girls man and now I got holes in my arm I don't think it'll affect you I bet you could still do bicep curls no problem at all I bet your biceps will grow I don't think it's a problem I don't think it's a problem okay I I don't know what happened I don't understand it it seems weird and maybe it feel like you it happened when you were way younger you just didn't notice it maybe as you got older your body changed no nothing no it's such a dramatic aesthe I mean the aesthetically you would have so you just noticed it one day one day doing my hair weird dropped my arms looked in the mirror and said it's I I thought it was a shadow from the thing oh it must to be a shadow but no it's a there's a hole it's a hole and I didn't catch it in time and now I'm walking around with no biceps that's so but you do have biceps well yeah missing one of those things one of the I big deal you didn't need it obviously weren't using it fell apart gave up it's like an appendicitis this guy isn't even [ __ ] interested in this muscle it just quit on you do you have a trainer yeah so how often do you work out I do about three or four days with the trainer and I do two days Pilates oh nice which has helped my sciatica so I started three months ago I have had sciatica two and a half years affecting everything including my comedy because I'm physical I like to move but the pain was relentless and I'm like I got to I didn't want to get the surgery was it a disectomy that they're trying to get you to do it was spinal uh I don't know what exactly cuz I don't listen and I don't know anything as far as like the research the guy told me what it was I'm like okay one ear out the other right but stenosis of the spine that's what was happening and whatnot so uh and something L3 L4 L4 you know what you need to get it'll help you a lot a lot there's a thing called the the deck uh it's uh it's one of those um Teeter uh products where you uh you hook your legs to this thing and you lean your body forward you know those ones you hang by your ankles those are good those are really good they're great for a lot of reasons but this one is my favorite for low back decompression this thing right here we have one out there I'll show it to you it's called the Dex de2 um it's an inversion and core training system but the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported you know you could do like back extensions and stuff on it but I really don't use it for that mostly what I use it for is just decompressing so I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs and and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing and you feel it pop like I'll lie in it it goes pop pop pop pop oh yeah like I'll feel it decompressed it's amazing I love it and it also you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline and it's really good for strengthening those muscles and also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more I'll do a set of back extensions on it and then I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop and all right yeah yeah decompression of the back and spine is very important that's why yoga is so good cuz you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight and then everything's tight as you get older like you just keep shrinking you know that's what happens to old people they're [ __ ] the space in between their spine goes away and then they get this hunch and then they're immobile yeah you don't want to be immobile no no and and I felt like the this lree Pilates have definitely changed my life Pilates is amazing they're very very good for that yoga very very very good for that anything where you're using your whole body like that you know and it's for a lot of people there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to sciatica there's tightness of the hamstrings there's tightness of the upper quads that also affects your lower back and compresses everything like when I have back pain I one of the things that I do is I sit on my heels and I lean all the way back so with my legs bent and it really stretches out my upper legs my thigh my thighs my quads and when I do that I feel it in my lower back like I feel my lower back relaxing yeah like I feel it stretching out and then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that but that's what keeps me from having back pain yeah the importance of stretching I found is huge huge it's huge and everybody's lazy nobody wants to stretch even me even when I get done with a workout I'm like I could stretch I should stretch but I want to go eat and sometimes I'll just go eat but most of the time I stretch and when I do I feel way better like for before a big show I always stretch always in the back yeah I just lay down on the floor and start stretching and when I do that it's like everything just feels better cuz the physical tension that you carry in your body if you can mitigate some of that just you feel looser you get out there you feel loose it just age really Creed up on me it's a [ __ ] really Creed up on me it's a [ __ ] so I'm doing all I can to to kind of combat that how old are you now 50 when you see guys that are that don't take care of themselves though you see the difference that's scary that's scary when a guy's never taking care of himself and then he's 50 and you real you're in a state of total I could pull your arm apart I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket there's nothing keeping that thing in there like you're just you're made out of jello yeah your body doesn't have any need to be strong cuz it never gets used so your body just deteriorates into this like sunken lump and now you're in pain all the time and now you got problems all the time now you don't have [ __ ] energy to do things that you want to do the for me the whole thing is mitigating mental illness like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger get that out clean your mind out and then make sure you have energy the only way you can get things done is if you have [ __ ] energy especially like writing like people don't consider writing a physical health thing but if you're tired you're not going to write as good you're not going to have the enthusiasm you're not going to have the energy it's like for everything you need energy and there's only one way to get that you have to have a healthy body you have to it's like a part of the job it should be a part of the job I Tred to tell it to fat comedians I'm like I know you're great but look we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s if Patrice was alive today he'd have the number one podcast in the world Patrice was alive today he'd be selling out Arenas we lost him because he just didn't take care of himself that's it it's the only reason why no it's it's super important not only for the comedy but even looking at my kids now I'm I'm an older father so I want to do those things with my kids whether it be skiing right fun they went skiing or we went skiing in December and my my wife loves skiing and of course I'm at the [ __ ] bottom of the hill waiting for the I'm I'm I'm pitch I'm uh you know what I've become or was becoming say hi to Daddy you know like we we go to Disneyland they're on the rides you don't do the rides oh [ __ ] no I never do rides I throw up in my lap when do these rides really yeah all of them yeah no Space Mountain no I I sounds amazing no so fun I got a weak stomach Joe barely take the takeoff on a on a flight let alone drop in uh claustrophobia yeah I'm a mess bro claustrophobia no biceps and uh and fear of a roller coaster things can be a lot worse you're doing I'm I'm fine I'm fine I you know I I I I complain for the sake of Comedy but uh but I'm I'm blessed yeah you're you're back on here in August what are you doing in August I'm doing the Moody Center nice Moody Center so that's great great venue I've never been there I heard it's brand new but it's uh yeah it's amazing it's an amazing venue yeah it's uh this is a a great town for comedy right now this a lot of a lot of Big Time comedy fans here now yeah well I mean the your Club which I'm dying to do and I'm sorry that I didn't get out here to do it but I'm definitely want to want to do the the ship I hear great things about it yeah next time you're in town come by hang out with us for a couple of days you know we do shows Tuesday Wednesdays and Thursdays are my shows and this shows seven nights a week great yeah I want to make it more of a meal next time I come out this is this is kind of an In-N-Out thing I want to I want to utilize the uh I want to see if I can get in the tank yeah yeah you could do it no I want to maybe maybe uh you want to take an edible first want to really do it no you know what baby steps I want to do an edible but I wanted like I know some people come in here and go hey you got an edible like don't do that I I I I can't do anything unless I do a test run right at home right right right so whatever you got here what is this rogi what is this oh these are just nicotine oh that's nicotine nicotine what what's the uh what's the good I'm looking to get into maybe an edible every now and then well California is the perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram Edibles 10 milligram you eat the whole thing easy we try five just try five eat half of it and what is it is this uh the type of thing where you're like oh hey this is great or or is this or deep paranoia depends on how much you take I need to be par dark dark dark I don't do dark I I think think about these solar flares head of our way do you hear about these solar flares there's a solar flares that are supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th to some Mass coronal ejections that could play Havoc with our communication systems or satellites could shut down the power grid if one's big enough you haven't heard about this Joe come on look at me I barely heard about this a friend of mine who is actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this he said it's it's really strange that we're not being told about the the potential impact of this Earth prepares for so solar storm impact from three CMEs this weekend solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M10 I don't know what that means uh the most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668 as well as the production of numerous mclass solar flares and two xass solar flares from what CME is Corona mass ejection that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend Joe no keep this up there if this was me and this and you sent me this article right said read this about solar flares you know would it turned me off right right from just visually okay 3664 3 I see that in a paragraph I ain't reading it just the the just the numbers alone yeah just I see I'm the opposite whatever you read just now didn't even didn't even register in my head couldn't even comprehend it did you get any of that for me what I got is a deep respect for these people that have not they're not just watching the Sun but they've made regions of the Sun so they can refer to these specific regions where this solar activity is taking tomorrow yeah that's what I saying the 10th and the 11th that's what uh my friend was telling me x2.2 3B flare he was actually concerned that his wife was going to be out of town while this was happening it's like you should have food and you should be prepared yeah despite this go back up the region continued to produce optical flares radio bursts and an isolated MCL that's one of the craziest things about the sun the sun is not static it's like it's like [ __ ] it's go it's all over the place it's got these giant ejections that that happen that could cook our satellites and in the past before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today there was a a big mass ejection I think that they recorded in the 1800s that like took out Communications for whatever they had back then you know I like the sun Joe you like a tan beautiful tan are you a beach guy do you like going on beach on vacations love the beach little Margarita sit there Margarita Little Mexico Beach Vibe sit down my kids build a little sand castle going water Mexico makes me nervous did you hear about those Surfers that just got killed in Mexico why you got to ruin a jum they found him in a well shot in a head in a well they stole their car shot him in a head and threw him down a well I I I'm at the beach with a margarita and you're in a well with three three gun wounds why do you got to ruin the visual for me Joe come on I mean I don't know what happened to these guys but [ __ ] can go yeah it could go sideways could go sideways when you're in Mexico Mexico surf for death man charge confessed to girlfriend oh wow kill these two dudes over a car Jesus Christ yeah their bodies are found dumped in a Cliffside well six days after they disappeared each with a gunshot to the head it's terrible there there's [ __ ] that could yeah there was a fourth body that had been there longer was unconnected to the case all right there goes there goes the family trip to Mexico that's their spot most of the time people go to Mexico it's no no worries at all yeah I know I went down there once and I was worried and I saw H be there I'm like H she's here no I'm not worried yeah I feel if you see holberry anywhere it's like it's okay she's going to be fine yeah H Joe I don't know I don't know Mexico worries me though but it's just like it's controlled by the cartels I mean the country is essentially controlled by the illegal drug market so you would not go to Mexico I've gone to Mexico I love Mexico but it is what it is yeah you know it's uh it's a different kind of sketchy and they they're generally protective of tourists generally they don't you know they don't want they don't want to [ __ ] and then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists it could happen on Wilshire Boulevard it will happen on wilsh B in Los Angeles that's why I don't live in Los Angeles I know yeah I mean it can happen anywhere really anywhere now but Los Angeles is a higher likelihood of [ __ ] going sideways yeah no I agree what's it like what's it like you enjoying it there's been many of conversations over dinner what are we doing here yeah I'm sure you went through that prior to well I know you looked out here for a little bit I looked out now was a good time to look now there's a lot of great houses that are available okay a lot of money came here a lot of people came here a lot of building got done here there's a lot of like I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested the growth is exponential yeah the light the quality of life is fantastic it's much better okay but I got off the airplane the Heat and I was sweating right out of G can't take that yeah I don't know [Music] it's I don't like heat I don't like uh heat you don't like heat I don't like I don't like humidity so that is a big big factor of moving anywhere whether it be Florida Texas Los Angeles gets pretty [ __ ] hot dude it does get hot I'm I'm not saying it doesn't I'm just saying this is like a you know a different kind of heat for me it's a wet heat it's it's uncomfortable yeah it's better for your skin though but be yeah and we've often tossed around do is Los Angeles the place for us with me is I got a family there I got my mother there my sister's there what about San Diego nah no no not a big San Diego really no I love it down there I love Florida love Florida's great too thought about there uh I have family in Naples hot as [ __ ] hot as [ __ ] though yeah hotter than here yeah I feel like if you go to one of these places that have sum they're Dumber in Florida yeah the okay generally fit right there's some brilliant people in Florida don't get me wrong but I would if you you know if you had to do like a Statewide IQ test it might be disturbing yeah oh yeah oh yeah a lot of people escape to go to Florida Florida's a place where people ran from their past I just feel like I'm if I go to Florida I'm running from paying an absorbent amount of money in taxes that's true too and quality of life might be better it would be better and that's Texas too Texas doesn't have state taxes either California has 14% which is insane it's insane I so high this morning I took a beautiful walk along your uh what is this a river you guys got running through the city ladyb bird Lake ladybird Lake right read about the bats yeah and had a night and just let people hello it's ni it's a it's a nice Vibe out there I'm not gonna I'm not going to lie but but I I'm rooted over there so I was rooted too yeah I know yeah but it's not worth it it's not worth it to be rooted in a place that sucks I understand just the the conflict the feeling like why am I still here I don't have any of that here that that I had that feeling for a while in La even before the pandemic I'm like do I really need to be here but I just didn't know another way to do it it was like there's no other way to do everything that I want to do podcast comedy I'm in La this is like I guess this is where I live from the time you started to think about mov moving to the time you moved what was what was that years wise um I had been thinking about it for a long time you know I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009 but um I had been thinking about it for a while but it didn't seem possible but then when the pandemic hit it was like okay the whole world is different now now you got to move like you got to get the [ __ ] out of here cuz La was going sideways and I'm of the opinion that once things start going bad it takes a long time especially in a a Democrat controlled State takes a long time for things to turn around if they turn around at all and everybody has this idea of oh this is La La is like that I'm like no it's not like that anymore they're burning cop cars to the middle of street looting businesses they're letting people do it there smashing grabs they're just telling you you can't shop after 6 p.m. this is madness we got to get the [ __ ] out of here that that was my take my take was like this is not the same La anymore you don't stay in your house while it's on fire just CU like P but it's my house no it's on fire you got to get out so that was my take and the family was on board yeah they loved it all well the kids were young enough you know my youngest were uh 10 and 12 when we came here and um we got them to my real estate agent's she's brilliant she took us to the lake and uh the girls were on a boat we were all hanging out we were jumping in the water together and swimming people listening to a [ __ ] Leonard skinnard and people were singing and drinking and it was like everybody was having fun and there was no masks whereas in LA everyone was like terrified and locked down and so this was in May of 2020 we were only it was only two months into the pandemic and I was already trying to get out and then by August I was already here I was like [ __ ] you guys and then um by October Dave and I started doing shows we started doing shows at stubs and then November we started doing indoor shows here like Jesus Christ it was and then it was crazy and then the influx everybody started moving here sagur moved here Tony hinchcliff moved here Brian Simpson moved here uh Derek Poston Assad they moved here William Montgomery moved here Ron White was already here Duncan Trussell moved here Tim Dylan moved here just started getting crazy yeah Joe D Roa just got a spot here Joey's coming next week it's just it's been amazing but it it had all those things had to like take place in the exact right order it's almost like you had to hit every green light on the road just all the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen yeah to to to make what actually took place it's kind of crazy it is nuts that that this place I mean I just looked around the city I mean the amount of buildings that are going up is is crazy the only thing I I I do see do you think the infrastructure of the city can withstand the amount of people here like the roads and the traffic and they're doing work on that they're they're expanding things there's going to be growing pains for sure there's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago but there was it had always been growing cuz I remember you know my business Hest on it was out here and so we were coming out here for on it and every time I would come out like over the years I'd notice like traffic was picking up more and more before the pandemic you know so but then during the pandemic obviously there was a mass influx where people like we're getting the [ __ ] out of California and that was the the biggest Factor I'm not arguing with you Joe it's a great move I know it just takes you you have to decide cuz no no place is going to be like oh my God this is perfect every place is going to come with a thing but this thing is like also like way cheaper it's way cheaper to live here yeah you get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house and your state taxes are non-existent which is just way better beautiful because look if California was perfect and I had to pay a lot of money but they kept the streets clean and the you know there was no crime and everybody's having a good time and there's great schools and great social programs like this feels good like I'm I may yeah I'm spending a lot of money in taxes but man I live in a [ __ ] Utopia I love it it doesn't feel like that at all no it feels like you're getting [ __ ] by people who tell you they're going to [ __ ] you and they have to [ __ ] you and if you don't want to get [ __ ] you're a part of the problem yeah like oh okay I gotta get out of [Laughter] here I don't feel like that here though I don't feel like that here I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their [ __ ] minds and people gravitate towards those parts where people like realize like hey there's some real need for Law and Order there's some real need for rules there's some real need for you know you got to have your [ __ ] ducks in a row you can't let psychos take over the school systems teach nonsense like there's a real there's a real there's there's a good mixture and I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal City it's a very very Progressive City that surrounded by ranchers it's surrounded by [ __ ] people in the small towns that are all you know driv and pickup trucks and shooting signs and it keeps everything balanced yeah it's a nice balance here cuz even the most liberal people here they're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in La MH liberal people in La were cult members and they felt like if you weren't on their team you were some kind of a Nazi and you know you shouldn't be allowed to vote you definitely should lose your job it's a tough place to live Joe I'm not going to I'm not going to argue with you yeah when you come back in August I'll take you around and it'll be a good time to know if you hate it because it'll be hot as [ __ ] oh yeah no it's I'm going to burn my skin off August is going to be sweaty and hot but it's beautiful and the food o there's so much good food here Sebastian there's so much good food so much good food no I come back back we we'll do a proper Austin run all right do it for a few days um you got anything to tell people about got a major tour July 11th called the it ain't right tour a lot of lot of stuff in Los Angeles it ain't right uh so that starts July 11 at North Fork Virginia and uh I'm in currently shooting bookie oh yeah you're on a show with a Chuck Lor show Chuck Lor show on Max which we're in our second season we're shooting that and who's in that with you uh Omar dorsy is in it uh Andrea Anders uh Vanessa F I've heard good things about it I've heard it's a great show really fun show I want to watch it so it's on Max it's on Max we got eight episodes on there right now and then we're filming um well that guy Chuck Lori that [ __ ] guy's done at all hits bro hits nothing but hits my family is addicted to The Big Bang Theory right now so my youngest my wife and I watch the big Bang Theory I've watched like a 100 episodes over the last four months yeah it's CRA Fu great I underestimated that show tremendously cuz i' had seen Clips online I'm like this show sucks and then you you watch go this is a funny show it's a really well-made show really great writer and uh you know I don't this is my first TV series so to have this guy really yeah yeah so I did a pilot years ago with Tony Danza playing my dad never got off the ground how is it like meeting Tony Danza oh great grew up with Tony Dan a taxi and he was the boss and uh he played my dad and he was really really good but uh that was a network show and they' picked it up and uh are they making four camera like multi camera sitcoms anymore yeah networks they I don't know about networks um but um Miss Pat Miss Pat show yeah she's got a multicamera show but I mean do any network tell like what is on like Network TV on like Thursday night now what's the is it all like The Bachelor show yeah I think we a lot of like reality maybe dating shows game shows reality shows big brother or or what have you um but yeah no it used to be all sitcoms it used to be all sitcoms I mean you know you were part of that world well that's why like watching The Big Bang Theory make me say like I enjoy sitcoms is a great way to consume entertainment you don't see them anymore look atessa was my wife so it was like like talk to camera so I would do a little talk to camera and then I would pop back into the scene so the talk to camera for me would kind of was like oh I could show my comedy a little bit here and then I go back into the scene but um yeah man I I wonder if ccoms are going to come back I hope they do if networks are smart they put together some multicam sitcoms because they're it's still a fun art form it's still a fun way to consume humor yeah it is and it'll come back it'll come back maybe I don't know I don't know either we'll see we'll see maybe maybe and also I have a podcast Pete and Sebastian show which we are now uh say had to Pete for me I haven't talked to Pete in Forever Pete's a a good dude I can't believe that you said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years five 20 2019 I believe was the last time I was on your show so but I've seen you since then seen you seen you at the store in 2019 I think before the pandemic I think I saw you yeah that was 2019 it was yeah five years ago yeah almost in March would be I definitely haven't seen you out here this is my first time out here but uh I want to tell you congratulations on all your success even walking through this place before I came in to know like you know I saw you at the comedy store hanging out in the parking lot and now you got a now you're floating in a tank in your own Warehouse it's unbelievable well hey congratulations to you too cuz I remember when you first started really do I remember your your first struggles at the store oh yeah and uh I remember I saw you I was in Vegas I was working in Vegas and I was in my hotel room by myself flipping through the channels and I saw your special and I think it was a Showtime special and I remember tweeting it like it was [ __ ] great you actually reached out to me and said hey man this is really good stuff it's funny Eleanor carrian was on a podcast and somebody sent it to me and and she's like oh my God Sebastian was awful just awful when he first started everybody at The Comedy Store knew it they're like how did this guy get pasted and I'm sitting there listening to this going [ __ ] I didn't even I like I didn't think I was bad you know like it's funny like what you think you you are and and and and and what people are saying I didn't know any of that I thought oh well the problem was you started out as an open micer at the comedy store in Los Angeles which is crazy yeah that's like learning how to play play foot ball with the Giants like it's nuts like the just the idea behind it is nuts like it's a very very difficult way to break into comedy and so everybody's terrible in the beginning if theyve seen me 6 months in they oh my God he [ __ ] sucks like how did he get past I know but to hear it to hear it was like oh wow I had no idea and not to even know you suck it's awful like I knew I was like learning but I was like I didn't know people were like this guy should be pumping gas so you know you know you know what I I don't know if you've ever had this on your podcast of what what do you guys north of what 2 200 episodes here something like that I drank way too much water right before the podcast during oh so you got to pee right now real bad it's unbelievable yeah I see your face we can wrap this up uh the Tour all that where where can the people find the information Sebastian live.com get your tickets to the tour get tickets uh it's going to be and I can't give anything away but I'm into um a lot I I like production at my shows not only the comedy but the experience so we got we got some surprises on the tour and coming to Austin Texas when is that August August 9th if I'm here I'm there all right I would love to see it great great to see you again and congratulations to all your success too it's been to watch I'm very very very very very happy for you I appreciate you having me on your show my pleasure Brother anytime next time let's not wait for years no come back come back in August we'll do it again all right appreciate you brother bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Published: Fri May 10 2024