JJ Rawlings is a traitor confirms Explo Nani Kofi

[Music] welcome to the Auto Show once again on LED TV today we sit here with a man who knows everything from the PN DC region including the jailbreak and the matter of the three judges in the former major he is a civilian his only true test now I will bring him all the way from Ghana to discuss some of the important subject matter welcome explore nah nah Kofi I'm Nana Kofi thank you very much it's a great opportunity and privilege to be here thank you thank you when did you actually join a pn DZ o pn this is not like him organization or one joint okay I want to make it very clear that there is an attempt to make history look like KMBC started history but there's circumstances in the country and many things which happened before p ND c r example chris bukhara team who is a member of the was a member of the PDC we were in the same University coming from iris of Science and Technology okay in fact after the virtue of Kwame Nkrumah Kumar and other people did we're sending publications into the country so that the vision that were McMahon little a struggle for would not die so a young movement started developing from the late early services after humans over truth so when I entered secondary school in 1970 in Kumasi my life and those publications were coming into the country that don't go psyche for all these publications are money all these publications were coming into the country and so at that time we were learning and trying to understand the path of Kwame Nkrumah and when I entered the university praise Booker a team who later became a member of the PN DC was the leader of the study group in our university so that is where I met him I didn't meet him after that he fell and we were organizing and there were organizations in the country which were gradually imagine they were united by the fact that they were opposed to foreign domination of our country politically militarily culturally economically they were for a reorganisation of production relations in the country and they were also for looking at the class control of the states in our country and also developing structures for ordinary people's participation in decision-making and for national and pan-african policy to reflect the interests of the ordinary people a majority of our people and their material were being an advancement so but at NPDC came there were organizations like they dream for movements the new democratic movement the pan-african youth movement the People's Republic of Ghana the African you've command and even the youth wing part of the you think of the PNP became what they call Kwame Nkrumah you flick during that and the organisation a movement on national affairs and all these groups were united by the funded dish the way with the galley economy and politics it's that for each to advance there has to be a radical change so in the Rawlings when he was given an interview to a Nigerian newspaper and I hear a newspaper in August 1981 the year of the coup he said that he didn't say that he was creating any movement he was threatening he said that he has been working with the youth problem with the new democratic when the People's Revolution League of Ghana which meant that he wanted to cooperate with these groups the other thing is that as I'm saying also student leader when I enter investor Crispo karachi who became a member of the p NDC was the first national vice chairman of the national union of gamma students by return dependency came i have also become the first not vice chairman of the National Union of Ghana students the National Union of Ghana's sorry had both apart history in its resistance against military rule actually I'm doing the type of shampoo and a cuckoo those who were in Ghana don't know how old you are but those who ain't gonna knew that the national you know of Ghana's today have become the main opposition to the military regime in the country and that is why when the National canister organized this biggest demonstration detectives made 1977 during the campaign against eunuch off it was the biggest demonstration which led to the closure of four universities the inverses students took advantage of it went around the whole country with a newspaper a lucha educating people against a champions único and so from 1977 the every week including captive may became what the quad atomic in 1978 welcome to 1979 15 million minutes in 1978 the liberal students kid not a policeman from the Kampala station and took him and locked it up in Lego and the military the military had to go in let me land on this particle in the current as to see the Genesis or 9s and his Sunday night and the military had to go into the investor campuses beat the students break doors to rescue the policemen so in 1979 those again Alutiiq so a young military officer had seen what happens during a Utah week and so the even such this and green something he who had the support of the students so he took advantage of the students Alutiiq which included 15 me and that was even running system when you for her pain went to the inverses he said it himself in stative May which led him to choose 15th May so it is not really who started as we were there before all this came and me so he was taking advantage of the Alutiiq and that was why I even on do for when the fighting had not ended the God children from Legon were in the streets let that the SRC president Kousaka masa they were in the streets when all that everything was to firing the guns so the importance the role of the student movement and the progressive movement is we pushed aside and this was made to start from the be Roland's name was head this incorrect is rewriting of history okay thank you that was a very powerful interaction yes yeah because you're a revolutionary your movement your student the student union yeah the nationalist exactly you just stated that you were pause in military rule yeah he stood against military rule you were in a position of that why did you support Rollins why I don't think that who's saying lots of water Rollins is a wrong way of putting it that's why people to understand why we broke with him because we were supporting Rollins we tried to work with him as he said in an interview to the Nigerian call in August he was working with these three organizations so we tried to completely monopoly him what was going to follow him for women follow her and we have never followed him in fact I think many people need to be properly educated last time I watched John in the book read for money pianist secretary on journeys and he got a copy of the pianist proclamation to James telling people than the pier DC Proclamation vested the powers in the council as a collective body of seven people and somebody asked him on interview that druthers was Jim I say yes it was chairman but it was a collective council he had a casting vote we are not following Rollins we would try to work with him why are you following you for okay well you supported in him we didn't support him we are working together working together yes yes and what in what capacity oh we than building a movement long ago and he image and say he wants a cooperative a movement anyone so he approached us value I you were in strong opposition of military and he is a military leader why did you decide to be cause again right the P NDC never presented he said as a military government he ended up being a military government and that was part of the confusion that was because how do you mean by that that they never presented themselves Simeon's they had the whoever 107 members of the P NDC included creating a civilian yeah Amata quit was a civilian so for that was a civilian yeah so it's a joint body of civilians and soldiers and that just because there were a few so at no point did you ever consider that this is a military if I move it like that if I consider it like that I'm not going and the fun is that that is why in let in about seven months I was in conflict with Rollins faction because I didn't see it I didn't join thinking our general is because our supporting roles I saw it as continuing the Kings are believing that's why I made fight I did the Rawlinson match in the pnd see how did he mention opinion is he it was a coup together Chris acting testify he's a civilian he put the coop yes protecting as far as I know they were protein from Medina civilians were involved in the plot siblings are recruiting soldiers we go even when you invert every i gotta adapt got sent on your own program yeah that he joined because this socialist boys a twisting Krista team Ziya backhoe and telling them about how they have to change the system and order when you give in a socialist book to read yourself he can deter a gun on me because Rollins in fact did even in 1981 9/5 he went a crack on each Ascenta publicly June 1981 publicly said that Puma was oppressing our country and kakuka who is his hero liberated us from commence operation and cuckoo cuckoo bahu Elko may work statements saying that if releases say this type of Kings he cannot be a revolutionary some of our friends said that they will give him socials books to read so he'll stop saying those things are you a peon DC or an NDC supports our the CPP supporter I'm a support I'm a socialist I know supporting do you speak quite highly often chroma I work all socialist that's why last July July when the general circuit to the frontier and circuitry of the union of the populations of Cameroon one of the most radical anti-colonial movement that we have ever had in Africa which is the reason why the French are persecuting him when the idea of circuitry died I was there leading the African solidarity delegation at his funeral in all the way into Cameroon so McWherter Fratellis and associates and as far as I'm concerned there are about boundaries whoa socialism open Africanism so I'm not Muslim most people perceive increments government or himself as a dictator what do you think take on that oh when you say you have pan-africanist I mean socialist dearly these are strong words you know and not points right I mean five points is I'll repeat the five points I made in the beginning because we have lost them hello I understand is in Houma D in your own view is he a dictator or was the agitator oh I think that the problem is not kuma or photo editing the system the capitalist system we have which have been forced on tests to colonialism developed in Africa by ourselves right does not create room for equal involvement of the food so incremental inherited the structure which the colonial is left and different from food elimination and increment difference with relative with that better follow this structure with the colonialists left is totally undemocratic he was seeing how he could bring his best in working with it the first is that we have learned their lessons from that period so we follow so from Coomer positions of um kuma will end the lessons from that and build on it capitalism has been going pharmacist hundred yet how is yours different during the P NDC thing how your your capitalism and pan-african vision as opposed to Nkrumah you said no no as opposed to us in terms of in contradiction to that of in chroma how is yours different so you don't believe in the ideals of in chroma their issue is oppressed people arms in the issue of whether I'm promised oppressed people not it's not with the the power of Houston I answer the question no because you are refusing to answer Sammy the fun is that Akuma has been left have been left an undemocratic structure by colonialism colonialism introduced that structure as wise and kuma be responded no colonialism or Esther listen listen we're gonna take it step by step yes my question is you are a true believer in chroma yes now what I'm saying is people believe that he was a dictator I'm asking you you now your own believers what Nkrumah dictated to you Kumar was not beaten come on to work we didn't the colonial so he was already tater he was not be today was forced to work within a dictatorial structure which are the level colonialism how was the pnd the sense you said that vision of Rollins was entirely something diff to that of him I don't know rather vicious chuck it but you join our movement was there before he came so why should they not vision and you joined to work with it I will cooperate with him because I've said it once let me repeat it repeat it okay I said that a movement has developed which loosely was united by five points the first point I repeat as I said earlier on that well opposed to foreign control and dictatorship or in a political economic social cultural and military relations as a country so you can you then accept that there were your your vision are you then call in increments vision and his ideas dictating have not said that I refuse to agree that commands a dictator I'm saying that colonialism is a dictatorial system which was bought and we have to fight we are not completed and Goodman said that the independence of Ghana is meaningless unless not linked with the totally present Africa continent so we have not had meaningful dependencies so once we didn't have meaningful independence and cannot be responsible for the meaningless independence with colonial is left why do we Britain blame every we blame everything on colonialism oh well I shouldn't we blame we are liberated already we were liberated Americans then joined forces with Africans to vote rank Roma so why we need so Africans with some African sample to care he could attest no American I don't know why couldn't we Africans think right and later go to catch the traitor he is a traitor a fruitful is a traitor they were traitors I'm not saying that I'm not saying so Lana they colluded they colluded with the stellar forces to help them to control teaching us so it's a partnership you see there's a partnership we call it micro police satellites relationship the metropolis is where that it comes from the satellite is the idiots and latest enemies who are selling us out so it's not the falafels are not actually O'Reilly is a traitor yes why do you say that why do I say this Henry Lotte is asking him to explain the bunch of money Henry lot is asking him to explain how the wife got in someone carry her Loretta wants to know what is true Daiki here is five fifty fifteen percent she is in gonna Rob arrested Henry lotta wants him to explain why how blaster Shipman Lang was sold when let us say he has written to the Commission for Human Rights the administrative justice in Stowe had any reply and that is written is now asking much committed to investigating a person until we know the details of this investigation I'm still a concern I'm a traitor the other thing is decreased when does a speech in the PNAC when I was a split in the pn deceive with him on one side Chrisitan and neurologic at Apparel's on one side and the original pianist died on the 28th of moldova what led to the split yes ultimately according to documents are dead okay one is the dr. Amano Hansen secretary to the pianist has written a book Ghana under Roland's early years right the circle were Chris Atkins resignation letter Kristin at this reservation letter he complains about running singling out honest patriotic and devoted people and arresting them when it is the same repression and oppression which made them come up with the 31st December coup which they were thinking will equal revolution he talked about the use of a second ticket I was using as change uncontrollably that he was not counting to anybody he said once they have a Council of seven members here Orleans Khadija Tata and vbd osawa were creating their own secrets called which was persecuting people he said that the fact is that role in Sade or strength divided would train travel is where you where you where you are aware of the coup the whole coup yeah with who to do were true in Lima no you weren't aware no where were you at the time where I was I at the time yes what was that at the time of the coup yeah I was teaching at Kumasi technical secondary Institute at the time of your student union movement it was working in collaboration with the P NDC right it was working in conjunction with it and you had no idea there was something like there's today where wasn't parts of the plotted on the food then what happened is that there are progressive people which you are not following me when I talk out that progressive movement that is a City I don't know how oh yeah but listen to me a was the progressive movement people like Chris acting they were in the progressive movement people how long a category the progressive movement since they are colleagues in the progressive movement when they got involved with Rawlings our association with them let us let our involvement not because we were all so cool plotters I was in the remember of the People's National Party they are the youth organizer in West nine of the People's National Party house her father was KCC cityscape a manager the first majority leader in the country's campaign manager so I people who not even tell me about protein who become a biet and where my father so it was not about protein ku a lot of people do not understand the history of the PNAC which is where the problem is man and he look a bit confused I am following it you know I'll say one when you use one resonation progressive woman watch have no head so you that is where my mind problem is so now I know no but I'm in particular with that of Chris a team at the Booga how did you meet him I've got a laser okay until we broke Jill and we will change the hability me lumen before that I've never met a toga okay so did you carry on working with Rollins or the PN DC I hope that the in session of Rollins redeeming in you know Chris acting was a Adam explain again you know you have certain things just on Rollins person Chris a team I've worked with in tech he became member at P and EC I don't know how here Ron is infinite you have a passion and he became the national coordinator of the defense committees when he became the national convener of defense committees he has worked with me in the student movement we have been working the program work he appointed me the water regional coordinator of defense committees so I came to Chris I came in today fearless instructions I knew you seem very lawyer to Chrisitan who was a leader then who was the leader the pianist was a collective body as mobilized a leader he who was your chairman the chairman of the council he was chair of the council he is not a stunt as an executive president you see when you have nanaka father he's the chairman of a council this is what people don't understand about the pnd see it is a quality the PDC Proclamation makes it a collective body so it's like when the Russians have something you call the ruling president so it's a collective proscenium you call Lawrence Rawlings a traitor yes what about creatine creatine yeah I think that rallies between what we their movement creating was part of the movement which I was he was he didn't collude the the irony from the World Bank he didn't need the selling of blood starship in line he didn't need to decide what the factory is that um kuma has left how much about yes because you know Rollins was the leader yeah oh so thoroughly leader he's a chamalla toe so he was through the leader you keep saying I'm talking about the selling of these Black Star Line and all those things we broke away because one day I'm F and the World Bank came in house listen the number of teens with made s split with him and left him to sell those things we're not part of the council well know what could've been when he saw those things Chris that seemed remained with no you you are no away Chris Archie resigned the first that I'm sure that I did because I didn't resign that I was arrested because Raleigh's saw me as Chris artist representative in our engine water and also another program I said that Brigadier cloture the brigade commander said because of me they cannot control our region but this is a divided world winter explain which which you cut me short okay first of all when the problem started how much I only about me on your program okay and Bob only was saying that he got a sticky sciences against accounts and awfulness it is Mahama one stood Ziya Abu ap NDC secretary for youthful sports that the nothingness to resign and when the repression was continuing there was the one al see this was aa masa algae this is the time for us to resign he said no Rollins I explained to him that it's not enough lesson one is socialists there is teasing out not enough eNOS and that he is Mohammed is not a socialist so he has not understood that he's not one of the people Rollins is a get so you mean a debugger was wrong to insinuate that he was trying to bring it on no no I'm not say that is wrong the first is that he said nothing so if he's attacked and this he said nothing as we attack incidents now but it is Mohammed said that two agents of Masada Tolls I am oh that's Protestant explain to him that is not an alliance against this I did nothing sociology so we are enough not and we're socialists and he's against you and he which part of gun are you from I'm Olivia from the bottom buy you a socialist yes do you think Rollins was after you oh if he wasn't after me one house in yellow sound swing on his skin naughty he didn't send somebody came he made a number has to kneel down top guns on our nostrils he himself on 24 November 1982 he got me locked up in military detention our civilian he got me local military detention India not a person is how you treat a person that you are not that did you do anything wrong for your arrest I didn't do anything wrong for my arrest and the in relation self is ashamed to be that he did that he would have wished that he could forget he's not wish that now not be on TV screens to be saying these things so most people who allege that most of these in sightings of killings brutality was a directly by Rollins but by in discipline in the military you disagree with that the fun is that I don't separate politics and killing okay before this programs I don't separate politics and killing their fun is that the people who did that some politics could do certain things but whether people on my side who are the people who are killing the judges and those a Christians letter said that Ronnie's name is here crystal his resignation letter I don't know what I have read it he should name his heroes and let us see whether they are the ones killing the Yankees in the night and they retire me officer or killing PDC elements in water region he says you named them so killing is not just killing in abstract we were killed what were people kill for for example are many very clear what I believe in and it was since Rollins doesn't talk about it anymore I'm still evolution I've lived in this country for several years and I act actively in the anti-war movements in the anti-austerity movement in the movement around Jeremy Corbyn so I'm consistent with my beliefs I believe in such eaten and I'm consistent with which I Rollins we can see where is is it such saying that we need to change the system is this a saying that is wont to lead people to ensure that we don't have the control he is adjusted to be in fact out there for free public and then complaining about his party being teased when it is precisely because he think that we were being too tough on Quora anti-corruption struggle that's why he has formed that type of party let me give you two examples that I'm sure you have never had one Chris acting led a delegation to visit Eastern Europe and Cuba and came back he had a press conference in Accra and so when they went those countries looked after them so they're all the money that is took them from the government they were paid it back to chest for that is the culture of the vision that we stood for again that time before we broke away from them and left them to continue what they have continued to develop into what is now called NDC I toasting went to North Korea came back had a press conference said look with a birthday because they took care of us with the money that we brought we took half 40 we are paying it back to government chest I hope I'll see the happening and I again have never headaches we are surprised that it has ever happened Anna because you have gone out to be that the granion cannot do that unconscious because you see well that is why you are here yes that is I'll tell you that is why you shouldn't be cutting the shot because I lived through it honestly I went oh I'm not talking hearsay and if we had granules who will pay money back to government chests and then we have others who according to Chris attics resignation letter I was not in the inner circle of the council krisily saying I wish you can interview Chris Athenians of Andrea body that foreign exchange was being used in an unaccountable way meanwhile people have paid money back to them a chest even built if we are both gonna on the paint bucket government chest petroleum would have had a different gun outside in some cannery the missing gold bath and all those things what a de corruption were within the p-n DC government what are the corrosion yeah things that so so those ones are no enough no give us more tell us no difference that my concentration is not mainly about corruption my concentration is about wish of how that is why I started again I started by first point second point is that the way in which we produce where the retains of production goes to just a few greedy people we have to change it in a way in which this distribution among a greater such as the population so that we can have things like cooperatives and all aside actually we have my guard over people look if you look at the gap between the rich and the poor in static you have to cry the other thing is that ordinary people should have a way in which they can control polyarteritis support intelligence when people become polished Carter defeated became invisible and that's why they act now in a way the Rawlinson is in the West than those that he killed on June 4th and in the history toois or June of last year that what the some parties were doing is worse than the people who the air pass your PDC killed so that is well I'm concerned about because corruption is conscious and reflection comes in any conditions for corruption corruption would spread like a cancer so if you say you're accessing corrosion just in corruption you had a system which is the great condition for corruption you will be like God remains whereas that is why now for a socialist our starting point is the system that is what confuses you so you you would believe that it will be best for Ghana to go into prime ministership rather than presidency oh I'm not saying that would that be better these are the senton the father I have the same system if you have traditions ruling and accountable by National House of chiefs and is the same system it can change okay the day judges the matter of the end of the three judges and the major what do you know about it all of us knew that the Derby reports there's a reporter come to a setup and I would ascribe to investigate Amidala January 20 came up with report so I was a member of the committee I've never met any other jaggies I met America in exile in lumen but I didn't ask you any question about it daddy's the one who led the killing of the judges Imani Imani - are we and the people who he went and took from carbon to go and kill the juggies they have been shot so I made a kind of a spoke to you about I didn't ask him I don't know anything about the killing of the judges what I know is what the public knows I was in detention when the committee was set up I was in detention when the report came why were you in detention for for for that long I mean aside the meeting of Rollins and yourself while you said he pointed a gun at you yeah not only me oh it's it old many people okay what is from that moment is that when you were taken to detention no are you taking to design normally went back to what are the regional coordinator again for the peace because me I'm making thirty it's not about following people and that is that I'm a revolution I believe that River changeable so I was trying to make a contribution on the basis of my convictions and also I've said it to another problems that impasse society where there's class conflicts those who take the side of social change likely to die all anything can happen so the fact is that I know that what I was being can lead to my death it's a it's a good a truth I didn't the teaser happened to me have not happened to me Macedon it I told you when we tell this program that my policies didn't stop dependency in 1975 when I was in secondary school in my school modest who we had mock Parliament and you remove Parliament we were made to organize political parties and then who have elections in the school and when I was Somalis coup in 1975 I set up a group called malli revolutionary movements Maremma and during the mock Parliament fan of Michael Socrates at a group called malli Socialist Alliance masa and so when from that stage we already believed in distance holy images and the power and smallest cameras problem ahead of Raylan's name so then what is that for me I any opportunity that I get one has an ass EVP or PPP anywhere I will continue to advance my revolution position it just like Tony Blair was here but generally common beliefs in his position he didn't live the Labour Party he monitors his what arrogance what Tony Blair stood for is anything good running state in your own view oh there isn't any human being who not do something good anything that is not well-defined that you want to change the discourse I am NOT a politician who deserves I am an active political activist so my work in politics is to Venus require what I believe in and not come and be listing since our people I think my work is to convince people that's why I separate enzyme try to repeat what I stand for that is mine that's my main work I have to because and that's why I welcome multi-party room because all of us can explain our positions Rollins can explain his positions done for me to waste but I don't know when girls as anyone else as well but you are against some of the things he's done I the first that we tried to work together a didn't work so it is not immediately upsetting more than million times that are not against a particular person and staff for certain things and if I try to work with you like I've come into this to you if we are working together I believe in certain things first sample if I'm a Muslim and I got some way and all the people there are Christians so and I see that it won't work then I'll have to change to be a Christian or I have to force them to my way to be a Muslim you get it till is the same as politics 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one welcome back just before the break we were talking about disparities and differences mister and Kofi nany nany Kofi Annan Kofi had with the PN DC but now we're good I'll be false again - Cecil - okay I didn't have different opinions I fear this was divided into two and I was in one part okay all right so used anyway you guys know Pat of it yes okay you see you liked one ideology of the peds you didn't like it okay as a civilian as a civilian during that time Rollins has now taken over from Lehman what was the stand to a civilian person living in Ghana what what was the situation you see the staging and the Lehman somehow forced the coup because but I will not say that because it's Lima photos when we had a FRC the FRC could declared control prizes sold or what was in the shop before it came and the shops were empty right you see the unhappiness that I want to do as a young mundane but now I'm an older person so I look at this also hand side when one is handed over to live on face okay then they're fascinating order anything important it is to reveal the shops that it has emptied turkey so the man had one of the most difficult maybe all maybe the most typical civilian presidency in Ghana but because it's a little route that you can Comanches anytime you are trained his majority partner was hidden narrow yeah that's why do you ever one time he lost a bike yet they have to vote again on a budget okay so these were very difficult and because the way things were very difficult people had a euphoria for the adversities well for most people both young people believe in Britain for most young people they remembered that computer price since they bought they did not catch them that the shops are become empty mmm-hmm but they were happy that they were each bite is cheaply okay so the California for whoever was in charge willing to control prices were being sued but when we come to the real world but what happened is it took over then they saw the real world the real world is that if things the shops are empty so you have to find a way which you have to importance so you have to find a way in which you have to look for money alright and those things let you part of the issue of how to approach IMF in the world am i yeah of course the world so that was how this station is and because of the final decision was beyond the control of Lima and the station alleged man wanted to be claimed agency rule which some I hear some of his party members they should declare a state of emergency okay because there was no way normal civilian Constitution our signature another thing so this collapse so much that's anybody what and that aku could have seceded because it was enough to say Oh didn't air passages you see how things were cheap and many other people they will remember when they bought cheap things they are not going to sit down say is it the truth at the shops are empty also he might say that they so say is it what I have money in my pocket and I was a good buy something for myself okay embedment on Ghana and probably those who had been privileged to have purchase items at the lower rate when Raleigh's took over what was the current situation oh when realistic over many people were happy in the beginning those demonstrations people say Oh control be back control be back but that is the illusion of young people another people who bought things their father we have gone back to constitutional rule where we came from men that maybe if we are all contributed to assist in developing constitutional rule it might have been better but Haron moni's always after the event yes well release came to power with HP n DC government which you supported one aspect of it the other part with Rollins which is the other section and I'll and there were a lot of brutality in discipline within society once you take on that was the general concept of discipline across sport you see with military sons - today some people don't understand the word revolution okay some people think that revolution means violence right some people think that revolution means military force revolution does not necessarily mean that revolution means a change in the system a deep change in and system so the character is so changed and then things will happen differently from how they happen in the past but because some people thought that revolution means violence of revolution means military involvement some military people were going about twenties on their own like spin that's in my own region we had their PDC coordinate Secretariat well a people like so just like a military policeman like judge Babli so just like much as Cujo to just come there go into any town together people say they organize a rally or there being this you know that and so becoming and then because it said you have done this so they can cut the person equip him or do anything so those things were happening and the it's unfortunate that such incidents happened and it happened it also and so even people didn't feel safe for example I was in the government residency we as a regional coordinator with the deputy regional secretary cuesta Kumasi in who and any temperament I couldn't cook him we further we should win sleep somewhere else because maybe in the morning you find out there's a dead body bent on the support a road cop Aviv or if aa Anchorage body has been bent some way and since we don't know how they relate with West if they have been employed means we could also be built so those things did happen does indeed happen but I felt that it means that we have we need a deeper education in our society about what's revolution means right we don't have a deep educational society and people have this wrong ideas about revolution then those things will be happening those type of killings will be happening because those people so think that that is revolution at what point were you arrested oh I was arrested on the 7th of December 1981 but the point at which I was arrested it was the point at which the PNAC had split into two okay and I said this process made me to learn how politics can be turned into ethnic because I think one of them is main reasons why I was arrested it's our doorman everything it appeared that because I went to school Chris a team and Chris Athena's fallen arches Rollins it appeared that the suspicions that how one of my schoolmates line so if he has fallen out a his out then we have to remove this guy because the very day I went to I was taking let me explain house arrest at even the first business very cowardly actually how even after all what happened just referrals that made me near the damn point and all that I didn't resign from the government I thought that the differences we can continue working so I went back to who the day that runs medicine in that he came by a helicopter but one day I usually I normally walk from the residency to the regional administration and normally don't go by car and when I'm coming the work is all over the place so when I got there dose a helicopter come down and then there were workers crowded day they went and asked the helicopter people who I become to do the initiative come of the military academy training school resource okay then I saw the army commander the commanding officer of the barracks the asuna Commissioner of Police and a bodyguard commander they came today which end the session they were looking for the original secretary the richness that it was nowhere to be found the deputy regional circuitry was they they were not prepared to talk to him I did look straight I didn't know why then I was told by the Armed Forces Defense Committee Chairman the Lama mood that the money ops I wanted me a smarter rats so I told that he should wear him down nothing like don't I mean so okay so and then he went into him so after that the helicopter left and after cocktail I went to see the deputy regional secretary Quincy Thomas and said oh this is the way the commanding officer say he wants me and then he saw for him I asked him why he wants you so I phoned him and asked why do you want him so I just want you for a meeting it is so we have interests you say I want you for a meeting and in fact it looked normal to me because I'm a member regional Security Council commanding of census I remember redress it critical so if not colleague a member i we just agree to answer so we need a meeting and they regional circuit reason around I thought that maybe he meant it so I told them told him to send me a car even more naive civilian with that gun tenant so yet to send you a can take you into the a barracks so how in they sat down in the office then I started hearing so command to just match interview interview sure I don't know what it means to if you ask me then they came so aside it was the emphasis Defense Committee Mendez and since I'm the regional coordinator of the defense committees I thought maybe they are tell something wrong and they brought me to come and listen to what they have done then immediately I was told that the army commander sir a chinois to Accra and I said Oh luckily too many officer we are both members originally criticals why do you trick trick me this way you told me that we have a meeting I've come here when I'm not a soldier salute and Adama commander secondly I'm also an official of this government so it's wrong for the army commander to just come and meet away because so these are the reporter him yeah we are all great interdependency by studious under him I'm not a soldier yeah so that's one wo campaka says shut up when you get to tell me you understand what is happening and tell us how how sticking by I'm got to Accra so I considered the kidnap they tricked me into their barracks they have Gonzaga Hopkins and haven't entered the armies in the barracks then they said I'm wanted by the air commander I'm not even a soldier then under armed guard I'm taking to occur so I was call it an abduction and I also say it's cowardly because if you want arrest a person openly tell the person won't arrest you don't trick the person come for a meeting and when a person comes to a meeting you know he says if leaders have guns is in your barracks you have guns around yourself they say oh I'm a combination come why don't you tell me on the phone amicable assessors come how long were you detain house in detention for six month but the funny thing about my detention is that Gardens for people to be their temporary office odious civilians are not catch long in terms I was in the garum first the impression of that were coup plotters all the coup protests they were taking to prisons and all that all the cruise which happened to have been tried I was not a witness in any house or accusing any I was living to even be interrogated a violent coup I remained the brigade commander told people that are be transferred to the prisons because la cosa then I remain there for six months when all the people who came there who were accused or witnesses they were all transferred to the prisons then to the trials and other admin day I remained a other members of my secretary who arrested me where release and I was today in fact some of the soldiers who beat me the first time I came they they regretted when they thought I was they after six months and I wasn't going anywhere they regretted and oh we are very sorry because if I was a suspect or I was involved in a coup plot and all the crews have been tried what am I still doing the garden he mm-hmm on top of a civilian what am I still doing there so abduction kidnap how were you then released from them oh how was I release in fact I met to the July 19th the first that because it was a division in the government's people who have been arrested people I was served but I became core part of the beans some of the people like Baba Konkani umar farouk and cody escaped arrest went to to go and where in essa so they were also constantly in contacts with people those of us in their detention right in fact they were in contact to various people in fact well I'm surprised people cover this program the dimensions on this world there's a young man in this talk Mao could be the glue he should be seen as a hero of June 19th because this young civilian was the one linking up between people I'm a Vulcan cannon Co and the people in the prisons there is a low babbles wife who was a prison officer Mary I am Billa and was then have to infiltrate the prison of the co so that information whatever was going into the prison very easily and so by I have always been seen that the gym the gable start even earlier than June 19th we confess me and that sting even assisted my jailbreak that's why one has my question of lincolnís offers me grants for 50 who now lives in this in London he had me shots during tender hospital as a coup plotter he's been shot and left for dead and one D Brook he was in a pool of blood no dead and he was speaking to that is a military hospital where he was being kept in fact one letter can Apollo yes Surratt has tried to release into in Savannah he Coogan died a because Ippolito him that you should have known better and not be involving things like this scene and all fast me he escaped from 37 military hospital and vanish so this is ma who was shot and left for dead are they able to escape then they everybody was like Nemo and in aqua and conquer lobby here and so the moon was brought to food in Janelle's garden where I was been locked and I in Kosova program winters pre-harvest went to my advantage Kearney mo now us but he was also in today's a military hospital he was brought that if he was weaker our escape than all of them we escaped and I need knock I was taking to some prison so there Nomura myself became colleagues in detention I used to give the suggest education give them reversion literature to read then so we burn a special relationship so when the day of June 19th okay and temper first I had a six soldiers were able to reach a crab from lumen Babacan Connie who Farouk said o faithless daily schita umar farouk we saw tan T Malik and Autry had they were the people who got into Accra and in late with mahogany glow Mary I am Billa they managed to get into the prison people and the jailbreak started so when they broke this sort and support the people from they saw that coming to other prisons over a thousand but the balance in cash in food engineers the room talking so tempo in auto-pay and Allison Allison was a soldier from food in jails Garin waking the adjutant's office who was arrested and lotta for a coup plot so goo- he knew syringes are very well so he met him a few engineers balance very well so regiment very well so he met the people day so when they came the guts it was drizzling true they were pie them made them lie in the drizzling water and then they came and forced the door open then they told us that they were releasing only soldiers so the signal should be locked up then Nemo who that's why I said the most coming there was an advantage for me Nemo said that in this garden there's no differently civilians and students so once they are religious so yes this will release simply as true because we mind that stood the regime saw me in the category of the soldiers so in the suggest escape and then please go back and I'm doing that they're gonna pick me in the missile are civilians and do whatever they want to do to me I would have been a ghost by now so me more insisted and truly most insistence they allowed with the siblings to to go and I would always talk about me more as a person who has contributed a lot to my be another because if he didn't say that we should also be allowed and after the jailbreak did the students run away and I was there and the pianist assists me in the same category as them because those working as petty thieves or do something town they are not in the same category I'm a similar matter I'm in the category of the so yes as a person who is seen to be a coup suspect so the more insisted and that led to our escaping together so first the soldiers to be our own roots with their guns and with the civilians were ranked so Amelia I run as fast or faster than anybody because I need that I need my freedom and I knew that if teens go back I'll be a ghost so I run very fast and I've got to attaching about the side of the firing squad or surreal I had like a come home people be doing them oh this one Nemo he said the average Africa and that immediately resulted he designed that you take me to where about and go because of the way we are related a response he gave me taken to whatever I want to go before him go back and join his friends so we went to a place called Libya house where we went and met some people there we talk to them we went to dr. Mabuse clinic and the helicopter was following a saudi doctor bill bill who later became a ple secretary that day his sample flow into the mosque are for s only do 19 had hotel these are their people they do the right so if United becomes something but have abused a it didn't become something he went to be the father of NDC my constituency so he will even tell us oh he's watching you they have contacts watching you then the move fire gun those helicopter they will move away and then movie and then what the whole Doolin team is like an action movie because those days there were no mobile phones but this genetic thing took place on a scale which can only be comparable the 24 balances this is cool because it happened in Tama Tessie across central and so on - and it was a military regime it was a civilian signal regime will not be so surprised by military do with all its asanas with awkward etiquette US intelligence structure and people sneak into the country link up with detainees who are locked up in detention and they managed to break gel from starting from gelatin Asha 14 across central come all the way to tension to military academy training school to philadelphia room breaking thermal eva base and go all the way for our cartoons so on break-in and so on - even though now that is mobile phone if it happens you still serve but there are no mobile phones but this was caught and then took over broadcasting for part of the time so if you say it's like a movie it was really like a movie and so later when I went to have anymore after dr. Bob will give us well we took their well to go and see what's up in Conda Barrett's and then when we reach kelabra we saw one officer who therefore then was there wanted to come back on the ground so we rebelled very fast and we went and he went and dumped the car the hijacker because now we the only thing we can do is to run so we found some place to steal that night and the following day anymore and I will but a week if two of us are together you know that and they were looking for people so if two of you are together just again working at whatever style our hearing data call me even so if you have together it's dangerous because it you you die together nobody will be there to tell the story now for example name was dead but I'm alive to tell the story you see so I read it took me to Kingdom I took a vehicle from Kim boo heading to bomb or we got to touching a lot of worker paths that time everywhere the roadblocks all over the country the vehicles part there so what I'm in trouble because I was in third engine Karen the soldiers they are from food engines gun room so if I pass the roadblock oh you are the one who escaped from our room and also the answer was being made by Rollins every ain't none again that anybody who sees those of us running away should - should test without question the dissidents Allah yes I am fine ago either integral have been right since I asking money there are no stalled make in your heart out to be held that anybody who see the dissidents the rebels they should be shot on sight and gosh he worried that they'll just shoot me on sight so I quietly paid the drivers made the fool amounts to pong then I got down quietly maybe some people think that because of the cube maybe I want to walk you see a bit and see what I can get so Gregor I did I went into the bush of the road Tenley maybe I started running as fast as possible because you don't know somebody can say maybe he's one of them he's afraid of the barrier and that's why he's dropped so I don't know whether anybody followed me but if you are ready for your life you can break the world record so now run and run and run sometimes I'll come back into town recommendation I didn't even know that geographical area well I run and run and run and run sometimes walking I'll go to Ashima Sharma I took another vehicle which was going to pump I mean I've got one being - Michelle Kampf the god continue reciting some 23 the Lord is my shepherd he maketh me to lie in green pastures he leadeth me beside the still waters he restores so I unless I was sleeping I was reciting throughout and one of the Saudis are Jay Kapoor he's here at his New Testaments mean so I was held it in my hand asleep before crossing the barrier when I read the barrier there are two soldiers that would you mean one Cossack he was really listening to this program you hate when I read a he was looking away as a ghost until the trees working the other one obadah who is friendly to me he was the one who was at a roadblock so he pretend I said he didn't see me so I well true suicide and I got to Paul I took evacuated bill to Prescott chatty become a relative there what a twin hype day because it's a bit we move from yeah bittersweet I wanted to go and hide it so normally we don't have roadblocks at a second because it's like a neutral zone between Eastern and water so the suggest somebody don't whenever anything happens so I was nicely completing that they will be not so good day mmm-hmm what about them Wow suggests worth day huh and so this is what I said if you think I'm fabricating it they like number suggests they they were all just conversing not looking my direction so the only two other gates one I saw a long bit but that they had moved a bit I also have a for Moses that be I was watching my famosos I didn't I never bumped that the I cut my head so had change a bit so then the dangerous man who might have picked me he didn't recognize me the other month satellite is so I know gosh he has recognized mama I just schooled works so when I turned a vehicle and a soldier he came he saw me sir hi hello hey hey so bye-bye then he left and now that I've come and I've met him he always tells me said hello so if I had rested you that day you have been a ghost by now I said when I see you now I always think about ghosts I told myself daddy is not true me that ice floe how're you how did you manage to get beloved by all these people because at this point you've been you know rescued by - oh yeah but that is what I've been saying and other programs that because although you don't believe that is I said do anything wrong the when I was arrested immediately I was arrested there what casting ho I was even told by some people who have been there they were casting go our Sun boot and send a delegation to occur along where I was arrested the delegation was led by the person within a head of administration in the Secretariat a jeweler geography now he's a Commodore Java in charge of procurement in a canal enforces yes he led a delegation with people I use of alpha who are believers they have webcast sent delegation to a crime the other things that the British commander who thought he was in charge of my parents when he went to his own suggesting hope to address a Deba their soldiers charlie confronted him I had it was led by one bomb by the end of immigrants unfortunate his dad before I was brought together so I didn't seem to congratulate him he told the brigade commander he should we release that man who he had locked up in a crowd so whenever they come a-knockin the killer comments a look I should start telling people I he has arrested me it's wrong as who I work with who doesn't want to see me again he just took instructions so they reason one of the reasons why my life is because of the way in which this bull of me because the same people who didn't arrest us on what we were the same people who has shown me the route and helping me to escape houses because I was the PDC coordinator the fact that many people thought that comma square comma said that it regional second myself people thought that maybe we were in the revolution so when Raleigh's arrested me I'm not very angry and so both civilians and soldiers as I'm calling them assisted me and resin saying doctor are calling people's names some people even as them Douglas te kotahi ensued the switcheroo came to me as a look bye-bye and when I was in my hideout in Hawk where he died he has been arrested so I came by asking what happened he said when he saw me he decided to walk away from there because if somebody saw him so many arrests you'll be shot so what he decided to do a day if he walk away from post and they come and accuse him that he went away without leave that means he bucket edits proved their permission it was better for him so he was arrested for marketing is pleased with that permission and he was looked and I was this one saw me today or maybe someone had I he saw me editing arrest mean that's why he has been look so he's a no he rather left the place I was arrested for leaving the place because he told himself he said it hit me nervous bro never a piranha then I'm alone at the my bunions Moni my papa was of Swing only comment but Burnett Oconee man they just glad to Akula that when he sees me if he had arrested me I would have become a goes by now so when he sees me like this he thinks he's seeing a ghost he told himself it's not true him that is proved so even I came back he came to talk to my father doing my father died look your son we love him so much and now here myself I'm anemic or give my Savior because he was the last one who could have arrested maybe a ghost there ok so these are some of the things so when I went I went into water region there was one time I was in hiding in a unit speedy see Chairman's house and they were resources that PDC had they were using feeding a break I just break a like me the PDC was helping me i jailbreak a like me because i wall they accommodate all the logo from the PDS I was no introduce the PD systems of origin so the people in the high why this man this man and Kumasi they decide not to be interested in money in fact when I was arrested my father and mother went to see the debris gate commander look your son is a big fool mama if your son had to gain this poster he has a distance would you be struggling going to tobu and coming up and down big fool because he doesn't know how to steal I was feeling the first regional coordinator I wanted to be like them and I didn't want to criticize and all that maybe I could be one of the leaders of the Piranesi but at the NDC maybe I might even be the richest civilian in central part of volta region because somehow because it had a military clutter around it if you want to be powerful and you want to use it it was very easy but I rather decided to be talking you see that's why I'm a bit bad I like talking about what that believe in so something that I miss by programs like I was finally so I need I believe in the things I believe in more than I need to take advantage of situation to make money you get it so it is precisely because of that even there's a gal who came to when I realized my program on journeys and one of the guys who had be attacking me that because I am no Rollins he came here and oppressor always well I love you as a father sometimes I'm not saying that you see like they say love Cronshaw you get it because yeah and you've got to find for to be I'm not like anybody's team I believe in certain things you consider my dearest right somebody who want told me that I think I can eat principles yes but the fact that a human being should believe in something that is the very reason when I came to this country on the front of people like Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn and cook you have to believe in something how can I human be be there and so you know there's Sam and all Scientologists we say that you see human being must be different from Adama must and that another normal they all look for homes for their children when there's a nest or even the bed they are nest no animal the big host going there and all that the money to settle now and not such things for their children so if you're a human being and all you can also do is if I have a sleeping place each clove yourself then you have not going beyond their mama state yet but what makes you so sure is that you have some vision in addition to being able to do this with Scotty our animals are also green you get it that is what vision is important that's our principle it's important and that is what the people love me and that's it's right this way I find that then so there was no longer part of the system there who was to Rollins were helping me with any help that they could go both soldiers and civilians so now you've managed to escape how did you actually escape from Daniel oh I spent 11 days first I mean I've got two Kawai laughter across the roadblock and all that the I didn't have to be would be anything physically anymore the people were coordinating or distance so they tried to fight across to one what a point we felt and in fact that they would have nearly been cuts but just by chance as I say the Almighty we can't go there we're not comfortable so we decide to go but we were going one person took as they had a cottage so we brushed into the bush to spend time in his cottage and rest day I had that the border guards country went all the way to Hawaii looking for us and they did in finance but because we had gone into the bush in the way in the cottage day so hitting that cottage until it was dark and we went back to Hawaii so I went back I changed my hiding place so I now moved to another hiding place now I was iffy risky because I was in front of the barrier and I had to wake up in the night crossing for the barrier because the buffer was at the other side of the road and people Rob Linda so I was taking the risk then my person I was minded there was hiding with he went to the pen industry circuitry hey where have you heard of us truly so I don't know whether he was tricking him but it made him rather to come back helping me more he doing that oh it's probably her he has been released have you heard of him we are looking for him so maybe we can sit down have a drink so but he didn't say oh he's in my room is oh I haven't heard of him I'm just asked if it's a way to tell let's have a drink so there my host he was one of the pretty so he told it this recently three that you give me a note and one other of our kitties so we can go we had a Sunday dissidents have been passing a Yuma site so we can go and choose them so he got these notes I said hi Jordi and one other operative should be permitted so anything will get to the roadblock he'd only present is not with somebody disrespect a tree and he and one other operative will be allowed to cross okay the DC Circuit I didn't know this at the when he came to my father's barrier so I took it that you know electric I prayed or even to reunite him I made it to sell later for me to be courier out to run away he was so embarrassed he was so embarrassed and then we didn't succeed with Dawa I came back then because you say the system all along because they I didn't know it was about ten or nine days I didn't know what to do anymore I've changed my location again to one PDC the PDC Chairman's place now so nobody would come there suspended police hmm be housed in a dissident so I met because I was the corner I made a people the former coordinator that to invite the Jessica Secretariat people so he told the boss visio lucky we don't know how to make him run literally that though you see we cannot taking the district as a district a adminstration a hassle that one it's impossible by Eva gasps it's all waiting to Jessica who get him across so in the evening the vehicles are coming I came with my hosts this tooth far away from me because if they were seen with me having trouble even caught a load then I join a vehicle the camera state transports that driver comes from my hometown he also went and took me by the way saw me a pretended not to know me because it even wanted to say hey you took him so you may not see didn't know me at all I also may not say I didn't know him at all we got to just attend all the careful thought I dropped and because I've been a coordinator I knew where the district residency was so I just went straight to the district coordinators please was there when they came back we discuss and discuss and then they said to be worried it'll to take me now we're going to go at three here Oh a guy told them that I want to tell them wanting honestly if we are going and women have suggested they shout anyway how's know when to stop I'll run for them to shoot me and I was not going to be picked up a life I prefer to that but nobody picked me and sent me to a crappy for killing me how prefer to diet and running so it looked very dangerous so that people who are taking me so I'll read the food the here of the mountains one of them just ran away kinda corny shows police argue or just to talk so yeah so it was loved one by he rather the man who ran away he died before him the man who took me across he is still alive today it's magical he's real to Allah and I told you that even when they send people to go arrest him they found the books that are sent into the country of him where we call they resurrect thing was so confusing they couldn't know that and as a man Ariza maybe what they love because for them they feel that that in some sense what the pianist is about you get it so when I saw my books there that's all this is are the children the toys you know if you have these books then you cannot be a counter-revolution so they took a hunk off away me - the evidence that they were seeing there with the drama well how are you and how did you get this abroad books for you get but then this step because all we also very rich so we can understand revolution so that's the kind of confusion thousand so he made me across the boundary into toko so after ten days I had to go I didn't know anyway I stayed in Togo oh the problems into good I didn't know that people were monitoring me every day if we need to integral because they I was in panic me not when the people come from pretty to the apartment markets he has to be watching who are stocked with being who have I given a letter and one time I sent letters and by the time maybe my italic person got to the border they I don't know how did to the letters from them because the person who took the letter for me was never arrested but then three people the letters of a address were arrested and anybody whose name has been mentioned a letter also be also sorry they let I didn't get to the people because Stephen Clara Sammy also who's dead and impact of and I'm a person who is dead did the letters were addressed they were arrested like for example there's Lucas coming who is alive Barajas in a letter highest Lucas what is it we know for asking how I see what is it we know he was arrested he came to Vienna so they arrest about seven people from PJ because of the latest I see and like my friend Alana he said when they be and I would not for asking that if I can put to you that you have a letter for explode he said maybe you have it but I don't have it gradually receiving a letter when you prove that you have a letter it means to us we tell it about the letter never came to me where I'm being arrest it then let us embrace me which I have never seen and I've never read that wasn't bad enough one who was also in tension just like me but was released after we we bought the jail before they released them later they release a collision detention a category cuckoo-crazy a great data for soon Nikolas attempt agree they were release so when they released is there he came to visit me in Parliament I think we are seeing him of a polymath station people went and said that they saw his loading guns into a vehicle to come to I don't even know how to fire peaceful but attendees got got to his hotel lobbies and God we're waiting his house waiting for him also yes waiting for him they are looking for they're searching for his father mother everybody was six they think anyhow they blame for him they took him in the arm Amaka all the way to a crack and then they took him to a fire as if they were going to fire him the father girls he thought that he's been fired he collapse collapse collapse when you woke up I cannot see what happens to him on a Tuesday that bad when he woke up you get inside that bad and so that was what was happening if you when I was in lumen Wow that was what was happening by so after in 1984 I was before the TN d CH I had a scholarship to study outside okay I thought I was a patriotic Gannon and he said I didn't want to come to a breacher I want to make revolution okay and now a revolution to me and then I try to the scholarship authority that inhabit the ecology which I refuse news the other palete them to reissue it fortunately they reissued a scholarship so for October 1984 I went to shuttle back yet but that meant I miss death again because my classmates molly'd Rebecca I don't know whether you've heard of him he had come he was telling miss Abigail they had come to holidays in know me his brothers were Meza their cultural idiots then he told me that we have to visit gonna to go take stock of the national situation but a term that's he went by but they're telling you where we are gone Hakone are going to change likea interlocked ahead our friends going to can ideas we have law arrested as a coup plotter we were together with another front of my jammy-jam and listen they were all my friends so I would have also called and even on our Abednego because they are ghosts now then they were put before a tribunal and they were sentenced to death anyway is acquitted so way to tell that means our knowledge again you see so there was a general situation but the first is that as I've been saying for me distance have happened but how do we go forward you get it how do we go forward rule 19 we have these killings but the way to go forward is hard we achieve those principles that we believe in in society you get it so when I became a nurse in this country I work very closely people i Jeremy God students we live in the same thing I joined an organization called contra fire we organized the hours for five good years I was on em start our coalition the group which organized two million people too much and opposed the Iraq war and all that I remember saying I should still continue K for five years because there are things that I believe in so when I come into this country I was the second national secretary for a group called Africa United action from the pan-african umbrella in this for several I think so maybe 2000 to about 2008 or so tonight from about 1998 to 2008 so these are since I believed so what do you believe in since you have to organize no because I'm really convinced that the way in which Africa is if we do not unite it's as if in now everybody's understanding because even the heads of state they've come together to set up Africa idiom and all that so nobody is not debating that unity is not important maybe the only question that we are going to look at is how would that unity be done you get it yes well it's a very interesting ask you in fact yeah magic oh I think it's the fact is that as I say I knew that if you take the pump that I've taken the other yes you lead to death it will lead to all these things because you are tricking you and injuring the interest of the powerful forces okay internally and externally yeah what being also not sit down yeah for you to endanger the interest okay yeah so at the moment in a political party that probably shares a vision Oh as you can see on your own screen I'm the co-chair money in the whole of Ghana there people who are following Kumar preparing to develop the PLC people PC PPG CPP all that I talked about how the GCP paradise Aston runs at the question but in my concern some time they're only constituents are told to her identify constituencies in the country we have brought all the programmable PPP CPP together as one and co-chairman in the constituency c pppppp and we have performed very well in two elections and we are the greatest threats to the embassy in the constituency so in the last election then this was so frightened especially in PICU I leave and come from then DC sent within five days one did they send a chief of staff another they send the militant Eva the fifth did they send a Speaker of Parliament Parliament was sitting by speaker fide do a whole new Parliament to come to our place one after the other it is only when there is war in a play that you take Minister of Interior chief of staff Speaker of Parliament to go it means that then there's a real tricks in a place and which is why we are organizing our position is that in in subject we managed to win it could be an inspiration for the rest of the country that oh if improving come apart is unite ladies they can win then other people may try to copy us and that they can be a change because people are also tired and ecmp piercing song history that people are attacked they want to try something - and see whether one will be different or to look the same so that is not the the movement that is what ask yes so sometime we have succeeded there in have a unity day so I hope that our example something if we win the election in 2020 and sub die it will give encouragement to other people Wow well any other last words you want to share with the Socialist Movement Congress what I see is that see when I go to ordinary people I don't go and say socialism or whatever because the important intelligence important but they mentioned that after you have an idea composition you have to apply it in the society at large that is why I was breaking it down to those five points because they're kind of rearrangement we have since independence it's not working for us you get it everybody knows you know even the ministers know that's not working for it African people no they are not happy otherwise people would not be crossing that see is following falling into the sea we want to fall in the Mediterranean Sea they'll be cold they want to survive look at the boats the painted balls in which RP was traveling between North Africa and the you know to just come to another person's country to clean the toilet and go home on our menial jobs where we have the greatest minerals now so you know a friend of mine one day came and was addressed a meeting so osseous and then he said he had a job he said one God was creating the world completely how you put all these minerals uranium everything in in that continent whatever we the other people in the world and so you don't work they go to the door you wait and see the type of rulers I'll give to them the world everything come back to you so and that is it everything's coming back to Sicily on another place right we were the gold a consult about so yeah when diseases come into effect is one because they are remove it our places for critters a hole is our problem then it comes you I wanted to say don't buy this this and decided to be a bit so yeah it's great to be here view here I thank you and thank you for that insight it's been a great experience I mean I've been listening to another mark on how he escaped in yourself I think you've done tremendous well tremendously well with us kid and Cheryl and I will not stop you desk that we have to go for it sure yes and that is why we stopped dying I came here and learned from other movements I met other people I met people from Turkey Anatolia culture group they talk oppose Constitution you see this a travel see know so a travel so and I also learned something because some people may take money home some also tech ideas so trouble well you headed off from Earth blow nanny goofy all the way from Ghana we like to say a big thank you to him for his time dedicated for this program and remember this is the our show on and the DTV remember to subscribe on our YouTube channel Facebook Instagram and on Twitter join at the same time this week goodbye and good day [Music]

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Length: 97min 17sec (5837 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 12 2018