Is he worth your freemos? | Alhaitham Post-Release Analysis

hello beautiful people and welcome I'm to a hyphen Post Release analysis as usual for the Post Release I'm pretty straightforward I go through my purelys I correct myself in places where I'm wrong I add more information and things that I didn't mention enough and yeah that's basically it so let's just get right into it so here's e has a special internal cooldown where he effectively doesn't yeah so that is that is indeed the case they did not change it from beta so he does have a special ICD on his e where he has technically a Time rule of like 12 seconds but realistically no time rule like it doesn't matter what the time rule is but a hit rule of two meaning that when you're doing three mirrors you'll get two spreads on your first proc of three mirrors and on every other perock of three mirrors however unlike 9 that he needs to be on field to do them right which is the biggest difference between them is that a iPhone basically doesn't really have any off-field presence technically yeah that's it's something that can be a problem him not having any off-field presence like it makes sense because he's not meant to have any off-field presence but in a lot of the teams where you play him he would be significantly stronger if he did and like you can really feel the lack of of a field in a bunch of the teams especially the hyperbloom teams where if you try to play him as solo dendro it almost doesn't feel like you're playing a hyperbloom team because you just don't get that many seeds oh you still get enough to justify playing it potentially like we'll get him to teams later but yeah like the lag of all field presence is definitely something you can feel however unlike naida his em2 useful stats conversion isn't as good which means that whereas for nahida you would generally want to go sometimes double or even triple em in a hyphen's case that's generally not gonna be ideal yeah right I'd say I'd say that's pretty fair right on nahida very often you do you want to go triple em or double em on a hyphen like it's technically a thing you can do if your artifacts are really really really really really good and you don't have great alternatives on like dendro damage for example but you still would rather stick to the endocrit normal attacks basically just suck and so do his heart attacks most of his damage is coming from his e projection attacks so just do whatever what happens like your normal attack combos honestly I I kind of Stand by that I know that there's people that have been like looking into into like his normal attack con wasn't which ones line up the best and should but honestly in my experience it just doesn't really make much of a difference as long as you're getting the products that you're supposed to get on your e which honestly is kind of hard not to if you're actually hitting the enemies 20 he gains two stocks from his e One stock from a charger plunge attack if you just do e and then charge up lunge attack generally you try to do plunge uh what's gonna happen is you're gonna get basically two procs of three mirrors but even if you do a sub-optimal attack combo you need to hook it up really bad to not get too proud because the way that it happens is you get your first Prague like after like one second and then you get your second proc after like another 1.5 which means you have like wiggle room even if you're not doing the exact perfect attack combo for him to be hitting like he'll still get the proc because you can third three mirror generally just do you care mostly for for the three mirror prompts right and so because you can't get a third one it's like if instead you do the burst into e into Turtle dock combo you have a little bit less wiggle room because instead of getting two you get four which means that instead of it being 1.5 seconds on two procs it's 1.5 seconds on four frogs which makes it a little tiny bit tighter but honestly not that much still so it's not really the end of the world now when it comes to like rotations you generally are going to want to set up some stuff use your burst and then if you have low enough pain you can swap out and then use like either General main character skill or any anything else really and it's all back into him before two seconds uh after that yeah it does it seems like the the wiggle room that you have is a little bit more generous than I expected it to be I mean obviously it's always going to depend on what the ability you need to do but even with like 150-ish thing you can still be fine with your swabs if it's not something that has a long animation right like something like you should be fine doing but again right it's one of those things where like if your ping isn't stable it's to do it because if you mess up your timing a little bit you'll lose all three mirrors right which is abysmally bad but you basically just attack and after a bit less or your e and then after another a bit less than four seconds you use the other one and that gets you another four seconds of three mirrors then okay that was the other one editing mistake I think yeah should be foresight you're I do think that's the general combo but there is another combo that you can do that isn't always gonna work but it's good to know about it because it works in different situations so if you're in a situation where the other combo is better then it's good to know that it exists generally right there's no rotation with a high thumb that will get you more than six three mirror procs per rotation right six is basically your upper limit right if you do it with burst okay so you can do like your thing very cool and then okay the one two three four five six right and then after that you get a two mirror bra right so you'll get all six three mirror procs uh there is another rotation you can do though where because his uh his constellation no consolation sorry Ascension Ascension one passive has a 12 second cooldown if your rotations are longer than 24 seconds then you could potentially trigger two of them per Rotation by the way uh this is a c1o hyphen so don't don't pay too much attention to the skill cooldown please and thank you so one two and then you swamp up right because you're not gonna get a third three mirror bronc anyways very cool you do your stuff and you get one two three and four and then you wouldn't get another one right and if you do it that way then you can get still those six three mirror prongs however there are things that could prevent you from doing it well so hey if there is a 12 second cooldown which means that if your rotation is a little scuffed and you cook it up a little bit there is no indicator of whether it's on cooldown or not so sometimes you'll just go back to him you'll do your stuff and oh oh I'm on two mirrors now I'm not on three mirrors that sucks I'm not happy with that that's not very cool and by the way the reason why we hold the e instead of top is because if you tap e and you do charge attack we get a two mirror Pro right because we get our third mirror after we do the normal attack we get it on the charge attack which means that we get our proc before we get our third mirror and so we only get one instead of two whereas if you do this you get your three and it procs instantly which is something that I hadn't mentioned in the pre-release so that's one one correction slash Edition another another upside of this like we'll call it the split up time rotation where you use your e and plunge and you swamp and then you go back to him and you burst and then you use charge attack to get the A1 again uh another upside to it is that you don't need to have your burst at the beginning of the rotation which means that if you've played a chamber and you didn't get your burst back on the next chamber instead of having to funnel you can just do that rotation right because you don't have your burst and still start well and be vibing and then go back to him and then you might have your burst by the time you need it anyways another Advantage is that if you are in hyper Bloom teams where the amount of dendro application that you have and like where exactly it lines up in your rotation is very relevant those split up time rotations are a lot better at adopting and like staying on field if you're going to be staying on him when he has two or one mirror because you can get just more uptime total right if you want to stay on him for longer it's not going to be through an hour of time so it's not ideal but like it's still a thing right and so in teams where he's for example solo dendro hyperbloom having that more consistent vendor application can be pretty helpful this is some way to play him that you will only do in longer rotations and in longer rotations your nahida or your dendro MC are generating more energy because naida's skill is procking more often than DMC can cast the skill more often so because your rotations are longer then you need less ER but it's not it's not because of this like this thing doesn't change the amount of VR he needs but as a general rule you can count the amount of three mirror problems that you get and just swap out instantly as soon as you get the last one that you can because after you've gotten two if you start with your e you know you won't get another one so you can swap out of him instantly and you don't have to keep attacking and just do pathetic piss-poor damage right you can do this and then you get another one and then you can instantly swap out and do your stuff and you can come back to him later now here I get one two three four you can swap out instantly because I know that that's all I'm able to get it and here right because rotation wasn't actually long enough because we don't have other people we don't have other characters on the party we did not get three mirrors uh when we when we did our eat plunge because the A1 passive wasn't all cooldown okay hopefully the idea right um basically right for his combos you're generally getting either two four or six procs of three mirrors every time he goes on field so just keep that in mind and when it's your last mirror you don't have to stay for him you don't have to stay on him any longer but you can if you want more energy or if the enemies are about to be dead and you don't want to start another rotation and stuff like that he has a pretty large amount of flexibility in that way where you can adapt your rotations very very easily to like situational stuff like the enemy's almost dead or this enemy has a phase where it's invulnerable so there's no reason for me to be doing my rotation normally then you look at his constellations uh effectively what this does is not that much you'll get six of them basically but like two of them are gonna happen before you yeah okay so this is kind of true but also if you do end up doing the split up time rotation C1 should be able to get you better better up time on your on your thing right you should be able to do split up time with all right because this doesn't count that has c one right right so I guess I can test it but yeah you should be able to do I pulled it up a little bit but you are able to use your e twice per rotation if you do the split up time thing actually you probably kind of can't now that I think about it so you always start with burst or e e hold plunge get two mirror proc swap out and then burst two mirror procs and then charge to mirror props right with C1 you could potentially do charge to mirror proxy to mirror prox or E to mirror prox charge to mirror products but then that means that either your e or your Ascension one isn't going to be ready at the beginning of your next rotation so I was right on this one uh in the in the pre-release it doesn't do that much having your abilities be all cooldown is better than having them be on cooldown because it always gives you more flexibility but it just doesn't do that much there's not much to say about his cons basically all his cons suck up except c66 is pretty good because like C2 is like wow very cool like it's it's good but it's just I mean it's 200 em I guess like that's cool and C4 it's 30 dendro damage but then C6 retroactively makes C4 better because it makes you also get this and it just whatever it's his cons are and all particularly good and generally if you want to increase your all high thumbs damage you're better off going for nahida C2 then I'll hide from C2 that should tell you all you need to know about about the value of his constellations okay five stars then you then you it's free to play off and you can just go off of like the the list at the end do I still stand by this light first Jake gutter second missed letter well they got her Miss litter and harano like kind of all interchangeable with her on being a little bit worse predom sword is also pretty good but nothing crazy xiphos can actually be very good umbrella does pretty yeah I mean I'd say that's like all basically more or less accurate what about black sword it's like it's about as good as the umbrella in Iron sting it's a thing that thing that you want uh because it does give you a little bit of a little bit of healing which is like fine but it's not like a better option for damage it's just kind of just along with the others and that all goes back to how garbage his normal attacks are or and most of his damage just comes from uh this comes from his e which means that black sword is just not really as good as it usually is right it's just the crit rate basically and the umbrella and the R1 sting have the em and some damage percent on the passive which is why they end up being somewhat similar let's even to use right yeah I mean okay so for the for the for the ear requirements I think it was a little bit too harsh on on how important it is to use his burst every rotation you can decide not to and like it's fine you don't have to use this burst I just prefer the rotations where you do but it's definitely something that you like you can just decide that you don't care about it that much like it's not it's not a big loss basically his verse is effectively what lets him stay on three mirrors for a long time without his burst he basically can't do that and some teams that matters a bit more than others but as a as a general rule like it's not the end of the world if you spend some time on two mirrors it's not gray it's not what you want but it's not that bad you do lose a pretty reasonable amount of damage but if it saves you a lot of er it can still be fine finally teens and I guess here is where we should talk about his strength and the thing about him is that he's dendro and just from being a dendro onfielder he can be the driver for a hyperbloom team that can clear 36 star with no problem or you can build him kind of like he's supposed to be and have him be a spread carry because because the amount of investment that's required to basically reach 36 more if you play your teams well with those Thunder teams is so low then that means that if you're looking at these units at floor level then it means that well yeah is one of the best units to go for probably not better than the good support but if you're comparing him to carries he's probably gonna be better because he's part of their routines and down your team's floor is so high that yeah the only real okay so I still very much believe all of this I think that that hasn't really changed one thing that I do want to add though is when I did the python pre-release I still hadn't looked into Yaya that much and and now that I have and now that she's been out now that I've tested her uh she has far exceeded my expectations yayao is a very good unit which means that that argument of like you already have good dendro units if you do Lantern right and you get her from there applies to Yaya as well you can just guarantee that you have a yaya without having to spend any Primo gems and I'd say that yeah yeah I was most definitely better than Coley and I I I tweeted a few days ago hot take Yaya is the second best unit since 3.0 and it's like a little bit of a hyperbole but not that much Yayo is all like actual very good unit that works well like she's not a carry she's she's not meant to be a carry she's not going to be the main source of your team's damage but when you put her in Denver teams that are built properly around her right if you put her in hyper Bloom teams if you put her in quick and teams just has like the dandruff they're actually really good teams and that's before even looking at the fact that she's a Healer taking that her being a Healer into consideration and knowing that most people care a lot about having a Healer on their team is why I do kind of think that yayao is the second best unit since 3.0 after naida but that that's like even more of an argument kind of against needing to get a high thumb because she improved by a pretty significant amount your teams where you would you would have had to run Cole before and that's pretty cool valuable right the the increase that you get from adding a hyphen to your account is lower because your account without a hyphen got stronger right the yeah yeah did that and also right just just to make it very clear I'm not saying that Yayo is objectively the second best unit in sumero I think that you can make a very strong argument for yayao for all haitham and for nilo all three of them have a very like very well defined strengths that that is like pretty useful and pretty good but yeah so like this right that's basically what it boils down to is want to do with your account and I think I made it pretty clear what I'll hide them is good at in this video right it's uh he's very good at relatively close to the floor level investment just having more dender options is always nice although one thing I haven't really talked about too much is like when you do get to high investment characters like him and nahida start separating themselves a bit more from characters like DMC and yayao and and those characters because well when you start getting like actual really really good artifacts and stuff like that then it makes it so that like I've talked about right earlier here with transformative reactions you get relatively close to your ceiling without needing that much resin right the difference in damage between like in DPS between someone who has no em in their sub stats and someone who has a cooling 120 em sub stat flower and feather is actually not that big whereas the difference in damage when you're not a character looks not transformative reactions if you play a high theme in a spread team can be a little like quite a bit bigger right it's kill a lot better with high investment and because of skills better with high investment then when you start getting to high investment characters that are good in spread and stuff like that become better and characters that don't gain that much from those reactions you look at dmc's garbage like damage numbers and not just on the reactions also just from being able to hit right but you look at dmc's garbage damage and a relatively slow dender application you look at cola's everything you look at oh yeah I was relatively High fill time requirements that prevent you from on Fielding someone else uh in a bunch of situations and then you can start seeing how a item can separate himself from from from those characters when you get to like very high investment however when you are at that high investment I don't think that our iPhone is quite as good as some of the non-dendron units although he can definitely give them a run for their money like when you start looking at high investment stuff you're also competing with the hotel and single Target you're competing with Aiko and enemies are freezable and and that can be hard for competition basically but one of the nice things about him is that he's quite good at floor and he's also quite good at sealing it's just he's not the best at either when it comes to just replacing them you know basically he's going to be kind of an inferior version of neither because well his energy requirements are stricter he doesn't have any real off-field presence but if you don't have nahida well you know companion tonight are you comparing him to like better main character if your team allows for having an onfield driver he's probably gonna be better and he's actually pretty good and you use her on one team you can still use yeah right like that's another another impact of Yahoo is that's kind of less true because there are a lot of the teams where previously you would have played DMC where Yaya was kind of just a better option now and in those teams a lot of them don't have dedicated healers and so being able to run Yaya over over a high thumb would be a pretty big upside okay so I do think these are generally his best options I don't like him that much in double Hydro hyperbloom it's fine again if if you don't have another option but all in all I'm not that big of a fan and double Electro quick Loom I also don't like him that much I'd say that where he shines most is generally going to be in double dendro quick blue more hyperbloom and then Quicken teams where you don't really get you don't get any any blues I would lean more towards the hyperlumen Quay Bloom teams but when you start getting at high investment I mean the account I've tested on today because I wanted to do some more testing on a few teams that I couldn't test before because I didn't have access to accounts that have the units for them but the account that I'm thing on today is a little a little a little strong so at this level of investment Quicken teams start becoming very very very strong and on this account I've preferred the Quicken stuff to the quick Bloom and hyperbloom stuff virgin yeah honestly I wouldn't recommend him in virgin I think I feel like it's just why don't do that to yourself man and then Bountiful Bloom I've tried it I I can see the appeal of it I think that generally in like in the kind of situations where nilo is good a hyphen won't be too good but he is a unit that has pretty decent like base damage which means that when you're in situations that are for nilo in single Target stuff like that having a hyphen will make it so that you don't struggle quite as much but it also makes you weaker against your strengths so at the end of the day I don't like him very much in in New teams but he's definitely playable there don't forget to like subscribe check me out on Twitch all that and do do those things true true I'd say that like all [Music] seven out of ten in terms of how accurate of a pre-release this was I don't think I got anything like wrong but there's definitely a few a few things that I should have mentioned and I didn't right mentioning the hold e into plunge letting you actually get two frogs of three mirrors whereas e into charge attack you lose a proc because your first attack happens before you get your third mirror and also because at the time I underestimated yeah yeah that impacted how I spoke about alternatives to him I guess I also didn't talk much about like non-nahita dendro teams they're fine right like if you go him with yayao or him with DMC but those are not the kind of teams where I'd be like yeah I'm happy having having a hide them on my account it's the way to make it work if you don't have nahida and you like him but I'd say that if that's how you intend on playing him there's probably better options for your account if you're like if you're not following because you like him just pulling because you think he's strong so that basically the base easily does it thank you for watching don't forget to do all the things I mentioned earlier right the all the like like likers any likers any subscribers any any why are you pleasure Father Who Art in Heaven hear me oh let me know outro my YouTube [Music]

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Published: Mon Jan 30 2023