Interview with Fatality

hey guys how's it going for this uh video we got fatality here what's up guys yeah if you don't know what fatality is he is i would say considered the best falcon or arguably the best falcon in the world you have you know amazing youtube content you have amazing streaming um yeah so let's just hop right into it why do you mean captain falcon because to my knowledge you've actually played him since pm and then you played him in smash 4 and then you're still playing an ultimate so why falcon well a lot of it is just it's funny i i liked the character mainly because of isaiah like that was the main thing that got me into him was i was one of those kids who thought smash was cool but didn't know competitive scene existed but i really liked falcons so i just looked him up online and i saw like old melee videos of like ken as in like isaiah just all those old school melee players and i found isaiah in particular to be really inspirational and then like obviously i really liked it any falcon just fits what i like to do in the game and then on top of that i ended up really liking the character like just as a character too like funnily enough when i was a kid the fox box had f-zero gp legend on like i'd watch that as a saturday morning cartoon and it was great i don't know how well it would age like i might not enjoy it as much today but you know yeah nostalgia okay so you just you just really like falcon and it's also cool uh you know you mentioning isaiah i feel like in this time of age not many people even know who that is so i mean old school yeah i feel like at this point he's literally only known for the meme don't get hit i get well i guess he's in the documentary too so there's that we're the old man of the scene at this point larry i know pretty much all right so next question you're in like one of the strongest regions in the u.s georgia oh hell yeah yeah um you know you have cola who i think in time is going to be really really like a really huge threat if he's not already so it's gonna be interesting i think he's gonna be top 10 if he's not already i could see that i guess just let's talk more about george are you talk more about georgia so who are the killers in the region and why do you think they're you know because there's like georgia's still getting stronger so just go over like why that seems so good and how they're getting even better i think the main thing is just density like we're not really a region where there's like a notable skill drop off like you can look at all of our players and you can't you generally can't pick out like a noticeable drop off and skill level between any given slot that you might place people in like cola is our best but even he's like only very slightly ahead of like whoever you would consider number two who's only very slightly ahead of whoever you'd consider number three and it's it's literally just that small of a difference just all the way down to whoever our worst players are you know like there's just massive density and zero drop off whatsoever so because of that our locals kind of feel like many japanese locals we're like crazy happens all the time and i don't even bat an eye anymore like mugen aka who used to be hyper literally lost his first round like at the last 404 and we're just like okay georgia stupid things happen all the time and it's just like another day in the life over here it's crazy so i mean there's the density is just absolutely stupid yeah it reminds me of like all the things that people say about japanese tournaments and i'm like damn it's just like that over here too yeah so i guess what i'm what i'm seeing is like the skill level is just so minor there's just like a constant pulling of like someone being better than another person on a given day and then it's just altered for sure that's that's really good i i feel like that that makes an incredibly competitive region and you guys are just gonna push each other that's that's really really good literally everyone gets busted like on a regular basis like there's no such thing as as like a safe place not even for cola even though he still does the best obviously but like no one no one is uh invulnerable to being upset it helps that we have a lot of people that i think can make pgr too like i i wouldn't be surprised you know how the next pgr is going to be 100 or whatever i wouldn't be surprised if there are 10 georgia players on that okay and some of those players are like well obviously cola rath myself mugen aka formerly hyperkirby you've got scat you've got cenido you've got vendetta you've got omega we i think we have the best isabel in the world in axel we have a really good up-and-coming lucina named jax who has wins on i think he's been cola before a few times um he's being me he's been a lot of people we have a bunch of others we have the young god dede the 14 year old steve who's probably the best steve in the world there's too much and the thing is there's like another long list of players of like at least 20 people who could realistically get like grand finals at like one of our main stacked locals or whatever and they wouldn't even necessarily be in that top 10 because they're just like less consistent or whatever but they're in that picture too like it's it's kind of ridiculous yeah that is that is really really crazy let's talk about falcon a little bit more falcons had like five buffs throughout ultimate's life like like just like patches where he's gotten buffed as four of those were during the pandemic yeah it's it's ridiculous i i've been keeping track what do you think was the most impactful buff he got and what do you think was the least uh impactful the least impactful was probably uh maybe the down tilt change it used to be a little bit weaker but it really doesn't matter that much the knockback angle makes it to where you're usually going to be getting kills in the situations you'd be using it anyway sure they might be a little bit closer but they usually have so little options after being hit at that angle that you just hit him at that point anyway obviously like those semi-spike moves with good knockback are just really good in general it doesn't exactly have great frame data range and he doesn't exactly have like the greatest ways of setting it up but it's still solid for sure and then the most impactful might be raptor boost raptor boost is absolutely cracked now top five side being the game maybe so the main thing that uh made raptor booth so important for falcon was actually his turn around are you familiar with why his turn around his butt cheeks yeah i've seen he has he has an even worse turnaround run than mewtwo right yeah it is to the point where pre-patch mewtwo could more effectively run away from things than falcon can now which is kind of upsetting to think about but anyway that basically means that his grounded micro spacing is inherently doo-doo but raptor boost is an armored option that makes it to where people just run out you start mashing in your face we have something we can do about it now because you know most characters they would just run away and then like come back in to punish her whatever and falcon can't really do that a lot of the time because his turnaround get caught but now we don't need to because we can just raptor boost instead and armor through whatever comes at us so it made it to where characters can't just mash on us for free anymore and that is the reason he lost so many matchups before it was because raptor bruce armor was not only unreliable but even when we did hit it we'd get very little out of it so we'd have to take this big risk hope that the armor pays up hope that they die it terribly and then maybe get something out of it whereas now we can get tons of stuff even with perfect di now it's the armor is reliable sure people still fall out of it occasionally but it shored up our biggest weakness by far people are being able to just smash in our face for free okay i think that makes sense um just to talk more about the raptor boost it's damage based armor right not not super armor correct also i'm kind of surprised you didn't say a b just because i feel like that's been such a huge issue that falcons had for so long i'm gonna be honest that buff means so much less than you think it does so you can still tech check falcon with basically the entire cast you just had to be a lot more uh frame you had to be like a lot faster about it but literally every notable player in georgia still reliably checks me literally it's a very little has actually changed as long as your execution is good enough it just forces your execution to be good enough now yeah so they basically just made it so that like worst players aren't going to get it that's basically it yeah that's kind of sad well i'm sorry to hear that well kind of it'd be that way dude it's to the point where like cola especially will like very actively just get hit by me on purpose without being just kill me for it at times it represents yay okay so with all the buffs that falcon has gotten how good do you think he is now like do you think he's top tier do you think he's high tier he's definitely not top tier he loses too many matchups but i think he's a very solid high tier his losing matchups are for the most part very very slight with maybe the exception of game and watch i think he can realistically win every single matchup at top level except for maybe game in watch and then he has a lot of even matchups against a lot of very relevant doctors as well like wolf is probably the best character he goes even with in my opinion he goes even with all the spaces i think he goes even with min men he goes even with a lot of the sword characters and a good amount of the dlc too okay why do you think game watch is so unwinnable and not pikachu that pikachu is definitely the character i thought you're going to say so surprise you here i actually don't mind pikachu at all to be honest but the main thing that makes game and watch annoying is honestly that big range being able to combo break out of everything so we can't really win neutral against him reliably because of the big disjoints and him just being able to low profile everything along with up b being really hard for us to challenge so we can't really realistically win neutral when he hits us we take like 60 or more we can't really edge guard him we can kind of let's trap him but that's about it meanwhile he can let strap us way better than we can let sharp him he can edge guard us but we can't edge guard him he can maintain advantage way better and we can't really keep him in disadvantage all we really have in the matchup is just a big speed gap and hopefully getting like random hard reads and killing them early like maybe you read them running away and you like overshoot a knee or something like that you know like you kind of just have to go for ballsy hard breeds and just get them or you're gonna fall behind because he outclasses you in pretty much every phase of the game okay the way that his kid lines up against ours okay uh that that does make sense can you actually talk about why pikachu isn't that bad so i'm really i'm really surprised to hear you say that i think it's just minus one personally but one of the main things is we out range pikachu in a lot of situations we actually are faster on the ground as well so we're pretty effectively able to dictate neutral when we want to something else that helps a lot is learning to consistently parry thundershock because then he can't just come on come in on you for free up smash in particular beats out so much of pikachu's options from a distance in general if pikachu wants to spam aerials at us we can raptor boost them pretty reliably if we read them and our combos actually work really really well on pikachu like it's not unreason unreasonable to like do 40 or more in a combo if we get like a good read on anything pikachu does we have enough flexibility in our offstage options to where if pikachu doesn't make a good decision off stage we can actually reversal them decently often we can threaten two frames with down air really really well and even a lot of pikachu's traditional edge guarding options we can actually kill them for fairly reliably if we read them ahead of time kind of force pikachu to be really careful all the time we have a grounded speed advantage we can outrange them and then on top of that we just have really scary kill power that we can threaten in a lot of situations where if you're just smart and you take your time take the time you need to get the information you need to make the right reads you can do just fine i mean obviously it's still pikachu favor but it's fine okay but you have to really know the matchup i feel like if you don't really know the matchup you'll get throttled okay so that's so it's basically one of those matchups where at lower levels it's horrible but like once you like reach a high enough level it's very doable yeah for sure okay so i did mention that you played you know pm and smash 4. let's talk a little bit about smash 4 falcon so in that so in smash 4 you were like without question considered the best falcon in that game is there anything about smash 4 falcon that you wish uh ultimate falcon had the movement i definitely missed the movement not gonna lie even if it was kind of cancerous remember the teleport grab yeah that was crazy it was not okay falcon in smash 4 was kind of just by far the best in the game at a few things and absolute garbage or literally everything else insanely polarizing and linear character i actually enjoy him more in this game because like he still has a lot of the same strengths but they're a lot less good but in exchange the things he's bad at he's a lot less bad at he's just much more well-rounded and he feels like a much more complete character now rather than kind of just falling up aaron dash grabbed the experience yeah i remember those those footstool combos yeah that was a pretty good definitely one of the characters that used them best and i remember when uh footstool combos were first found with falcon a lot of you're like nah no one's gonna ever do this right and then i just sat in training mode and mastered them and then i started doing it consistently at top low and feel like wait wait wait wait please stop this is this is this is too much winning a lot of really high profile sets with uh like heist with like footstool zero to deaths it was just literal zero to death that's pretty good okay so i guess the same question for pm anything you wish ultra falcon had that p.m or yeah i had that p.m falcon has and why dude wave dashing oh my god i love wave dashing if we had true wave dashing in this game i i would love this game like so much more than i than i already do because i already really like this game i genuinely do but oh my god i would i would spend time in training mode not even doing anything in particular just wave dashing around because i just love it so much my movement mix-ups with it and pm were pretty saucy and i kind of wish i had that in this game too i would go ham it would be great it's one of the reasons i'm excited for the nickelodeon fighter is because apparently it has a way of dashing in it yeah i've heard that too well it's being uh created by the people who made slap city so it's probably just going to be like very similar to that miss moonwalking too okay so in both cases it just sounds like you really want movement you really want falcon to have better movement his movement in this game is kind of cheeks compared to uh previous versions of the character like his uh dash shield is one of the worst in the game like i think it comes out like frame 14 or 15 when you do dash shield which is pretty low or pretty high rather obviously he has the turnaround thing and his initial dash is the same speed as lynx so like a lot of his movement frame data is actually pretty bad even if it's attached to a character with the second fastest run speed and a great aerial drift it's kind of weird like a lot of his moon feels like it should be amazing but it just isn't but it's one of the reasons why a lot of people who played falcon in the previous game don't really like him in this game yeah they're so used to they're so used to just moving a certain way and he just doesn't in this game yeah i definitely remember playing falcon in an ultimate and like this just feels very awkward compared to four yeah you have to focus a lot less on just moving around all the all over the place and just more on i guess playing in more traditionally more traditional spacing using a lot of your moves in a lot of different situations i guess he's more normalized now but i like a lot of the ways in which he was normalized so i don't really mind too much i can only imagine how good this character would be if they made it to where the turnaround wasn't booty anymore that loki that's the inhibitor this character would become very not okay very fast if they removed that yeah so i'm assuming if there was one buff that falcon got that would be it if they did that instant top tier he he he's gonna if they did that he would instantly lose like at least 10 less matchups jeez okay that's pretty big um okay so you talked about you know character movement like you would just wish had more of his previous character movement given the movement that he has is there any do you think there's like any particular thing you do with falcon movement wise that most are no other falcon does i think i walk by far the most from what i can see that's one thing i also stand in place more than the other falcons like i'm pretty fast when i want to be but i'm not necessarily fast all the time there are plenty of situations where i'll slow things down and i think there's a lot of value in that especially since it opens up a lot of your ground game more i think plenty of falcons try to play him as if his movement was better and it just isn't so i just don't i'm fast when i need to be but there's a lot of value in just microspacing on the ground with walking just very slightly repositioning yourself so you can get better raptor boost timing with armor just things like that you know i have to say i really appreciate you saying walking because i've been saying this for so long i think walking is one of the most underrated movement options that people have an ultimate yeah it's so good it's it's like it's it's absurdly good i i just wish more people did it broken walking is actually broken yeah it's just it's it's crazy good so you have the training mod pack like if i were to think of people who intensively lab characters you would definitely be one of the people on the list i think me and void practice really similarly for instance yeah i was going to say is there what is your approach to labbing like is there anything in particular particularly your labbing like uh when it comes to combos like like what's what's what's your thought process when you're doing that usually i just try to think of whatever the the most inconvenient way for an opponent to di is and then i start there to see if something works because i try to assume the best of my opponents at all times when it comes to laughing things then if it turns out that they're dying poorly well my life should become easier on paper right so if i can make things work under the worst of circumstances then that probably means it's actually a good thing so i usually just start there and then once i figure out if something can or can't work that way i see if it works in other ways as well a good example would be like idj combos for instance a lot of those are not quite as good as i originally thought they were going to be but especially if you have platforms they're still amazing like i still pretty routinely get really really strong idj combos and especially on heavier characters you can occasionally get like true zero to deaths and stuff like that and it's kind of horrifying but even then it's not quite as good as i originally thought it was going to be just because it's so difficult to do consistently on an opponent who's going to mix up their di the the amount of perfection it asks from you is honestly unreal and i kind of doubt that idj combos are ever going to be mastered to the extent that i originally thought they were just because of how much things changed with an opponent who's good at mixing up their di they're still very good and it's still very much something worth practicing okay i like that you said that you know you you will practice the most i guess the most difficult way to do the combo first and then you'll just go from there from your experience of playing the opponent or after laughing your combos how often would you say the opponent dies it like the optimal way and you got like still get the combo say more often than not i i've done a good job of uh conditioning georgia to know how to play against falcon big surprise there so because of that even like our own tours know like a lot of anti-falcon stuff so for the most part i'm playing against people who are going to be dealing things pretty well for the most part it's funny whenever i go out a region i usually have a way easier time comboing people because i'm so used to comboing under the worst of circumstances and then suddenly they're like not doing that anymore and then my life becomes way easier it's kind of nice yeah i'm i mean that definitely makes sense you know you're doing the hardest thing like possible and still getting the car they're doing the hardest thing possible to prevent you from getting the combo and you're still getting it so someone doing you know he's dying it horribly hopefully would make the combo more free to do 100 okay so let's talk a little bit more about competing so you've been going to a lot of a lot of locals and and regional events infinity con your first uh out of state tournament uh since uh the pandemic yeah getting fifth place is not bad yeah i was gonna say do you wanna do you uh wanna talk a little bit more about your experience like go more in depth about it i actually think that's probably the best performance falcon has gotten in this game it's either that or uh that one french tournament that oj got second at recently i personally think infinity khan was a decent bit more stacked but i mean he also got further so i feel like that's just something you can kind of debate i don't really care too much about like measuring myself up against other falcon players or anything at this point though at this point my goal is just to improve how that looks relative to others doesn't really matter to me anymore but at least with infinity con i was just happy to be out in my element doing what i do again a lot of my life just kind of sucked honestly during the pandemic because i was so used to just traveling all the time and doing all this stuff and then just none of it so that was kind of rough but i'm out doing what i do again and i'm happy so i was mostly just happy to be able to get back out there and i played pretty well for the most part i kind of busted out in top eight but it'd be that way sometimes i'll just have to not bust around in uh my next out-of-state events such as uh mecca con this weekend which is in new orleans i'll be at ultimate wanted three see you there i'll see you there besides that i'm registered for pretty much everything like i'm going to port priority i'm going to ceo i'm going to uh rip tide low tide main stage let's make big moves genesis pretty much everything really this is definitely everything is there any particular event you're looking forward to uh the most probably wanted three just because paris yeah it's gonna be hype it's gonna be hype there's a decent chance we'll be running into each other a lot maybe we'll go to like the eiffel tower or some i don't know all right so um i think that's i think that's it i don't really have anything else to ask unless you want to like include anything else all right on a scale of one to ten how much do you like captain falcon in this game oh oh you're putting me on the spot be completely honest larry the people need to know honestly he's like a seven to me okay i don't believe you no i think you're i think your real number is like a three or something no okay here's the thing people think i just people think i despise falcon i don't the thing is uh is i think he's over hyped that's what annoys me about him i feel like so many people will go crazy over a generic falcon combo that that's that that's all it is but like in actuality i think it's a cool character i i just don't like how overhyped he is that's fair to be honest i think the overwhelming majority of falcon stuff isn't and i'm and even if people thought falcon as a character is lame i don't really care i'm sick that's all that matters all right i think on that note we will we will end the interview there all your social media is spectality falcon right like youtube twitter twitch oh yeah the it's nice consistency so if you want to follow my uninteresting twitter you can follow it at fatality falcon i don't really post memes or try to farm the algorithm or anything it's kind of just stream advertisements and like keeping you guys updated with live stuff but hey if that sounds like your cup of tea by all means follow me there my twitch and youtube are at fatality falcon and they're a lot more interesting i think yeah my twitter is just a glorified stream advertisement i mean i feel like that's that's a good reason to have it i honestly have a strong distaste for social media so that's why i pretty much removed myself from most of it i still use that stuff so yeah follow me there if you want to keep up with some good content yeah i'll try and get some more jv4s for the people oh you're a monster you're a monster all right well that was fun i'm looking forward to seeing you at ultimate123 hopefully you don't j before me uh see you there i will see you there yeah take care [Music] so [Music] you

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Length: 23min 40sec (1420 seconds)

Published: Fri Jul 30 2021