Images of Black Men in America (1988) | Huey P. Newton, Ishmael Reed and Jawanza Kunjufu

[Applause] from San Francisco each Channel Five's people are talking with a Jew and lost my god [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] welcome to people are talking happy Martin Luther King birthday today is the day we observe his birth we do nationwide and the Freedom Train which has already left San Jose it's on its way to San Francisco and what you're seeing now or almost now are a lot of the people that were boarding the one of two Freedom trains that will be carrying something like 4,000 people from San Jose to San Francisco today festivities today and there's going to be a march from the Townsend train station to Civic Auditorium starting at 11:30 here in San Francisco 11:30 this morning then this evening and at 7:00 there will also be a rally at the San Jose Civic Auditorium honoring the late dr. Martin Luther King he was assassinated just 20 years ago on April 4th 1968 and a planned effort that we're going to tell you a little bit about a little later on in the show to make sure that schoolchildren are aware of dr. King and all the good works he has done KPIX has put out a pamphlet and will show it to you a little bit later you know this morning we're gonna talk about the image of black men in our society not long ago Newsweek did a whole cover story on it and I want to read you just a little excerpt from from that story it says black men are six times as likely as white men to be murder victims they are two and a half times as likely to be unemployed they finish last and practically every socio-economic measure from infant mortality to life expectancy and some feel that black men in America seem almost an endangered species so it's interesting that many people perceive black men as less intelligent less productive more hostile than the rest of society and today on the observance of Martin Luther King Junior's birthday we thought it would be interesting to confront these stereotypes we have with us this morning to share their insight three very interesting men we have Huey Newton former Black Panther we have Ishmael Reed who is the professor of English literature at UC Berkeley and we have jawanda Kunju fool the author of countering the conspiracy to destroy black boys will you give all three of them a nice warm welcome [Applause] [Music] [Applause] gentlemen thank you for coming to visit us this morning on people are talking AB we are going to definitely get into the image of black men in America but are the three of you still reeling on the comments of Jimmy the Greek last Friday well I'm not I thought the comments were pretty accurate I think that blacks are superior gene land based upon reproductive survival success you have to reproduce in order to survive and black blacks have been put on the 400 years of slavery given the worst food the worst medical care the worst housing so that would select out the weaker gene lines and that's why we would be proportionally represented in just about every area were given an opportunity glad I made these comments yeah now if flights would like to be superior they would allow blacks to slave over 400 years their wicker gene lanes would die out so I think that Jimmy the Greek is unfairly treated by the station that fired him and I think the other group that probably would have a superior gene line based upon reproductive survival success or our Jewish people who have been not driven and murdered for years and I would like to emphasize it has nothing there do in particular with race it has to do with selecting out a weak gene lying or weak family names weak weak not in an absolute sense but just that the people cannot stand the oppression if small how do you feel and that's that there were million black boys last year that wanted to play in the NBA of that million only 400,000 we even make it to play high school ball of that 400,000 only four thousand be able to make it to play college ball of that four thousand only 35 will make it to the NBA of that 35 only 7 start and the average life in the NBA is four years so the real problem is we have a million brothers looking for seven full-time jobs the last four years and yet last year we had 100,000 jobs available to be a computer programmer engineer or doctor and only thousand brothers qualified so I appeal to black males isn't realize the odds that that you do most will be that that you do best I mean we were the first doctor not Epocrates in hotel so we have the ability either math or science or music in sports but that that you do most with that you do best if you play basketball from 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock you'll be a very good basketball player if you went home and went to the library you'd be a very good scholar we need more black male role models that will encourage our youth in math and science Ishmael how are you reacting to this yeah greeted by the remarks but you were what that was offended by the remarks but I hear those kind of marks all day every day and I think that so he said what you think a lot of folks are they're not saying it before I came over here I was tuned into another channel that's ok I think the interviewer was trying to congratulate Arthur Mitchell of the Harlem dance group and try to congratulate and by saying that well these people are not into Superfly IV Bob they're into things that are more forms that are more elegant and sophisticated I can't think of any music form it's more sophisticated elegant than bebop so I took that as slur against a plumeria community so I think what happens is that we run the risk of singling out people like Nick the Greek and Al Cap'n is that weight loss yeah who have working-class styles and we let these elitist people in culture and education get away you want animation so it sees me a double-standard people who have a working-class background like those two guys get blasted but people in the industry I work in and the University and a culture get away they make remarks like that all the time so in other words it's it's kind of a good thing that it came out it kind of hit people in the face made them realize that they have this deep programming that's going on I can't see why any people would be insulted by someone saying they're superior the article Reverend Jesse Jackson who is dr. Huey Newton says right now dr. Jimmy the Greek also said if blacks are given the opportunity in management in other areas they will probably be superior there too and so I can't see where anyone would find fault with him other than the majority group who are afraid of blacks because of our superiority you said okay oh yeah I said okay because it's true it's easy for us to lash out at this person but he meant that you know that was his programming it wasn't right he meant exactly what he said that was very important to him so we have to look at that and realize that this is how people are thinking how do we change people's thinking I don't want to change it in other words if you put blocks under the most vicious the most savage oppression through throughout the in the start of the enslaving period Oh what Jean line would be left other than a very strong Jean line I think that's ridiculous to think that in a biological sense that a weak gene lines would not be wiped out after given the worst food the worst medical care and so forth I think what people really want to do is read into Jimmy the Greek statement to say that where blacks are only good at athletics and blacks can't be good at quarterbacks or at management but he did not say that I think I think your program to read into it black inferiority because that's what you used to see and I don't know what his intentions were either even so how do we reprogram that so we don't think that blacks are well you just have to stop being racist by first encountering your racism and seemed first that you [ __ ] maybe you should be a little afraid of the people that you've attempted to commit genocide against not only then but now jiwan's a-- is it the fault of the media well there's no question that there's a direct relationship between images and self-esteem and he goes all way back to Tarzan to Superman to Rambo - Batman - even painting the image of Jesus Christ as white I mean you can't separate racism from anything so it's no it's not it's not unlikely then you have pope julius commissioning Michelangelo in 1505 to paint jesus christ wine images control self-esteem Abraham Lincoln found it very early when you got 300 slaves on a plantation and one master it's a lot of work why don't you let them go but don't teach them who they are to control their history control the images then you won't have to watch him whoever controls the mind will also control the box talk about the image of the black man in America when we return stay tuned [Applause] [Music] [Applause] trying to find the card here of an article I had read in Newsweek magazine by Sylvester Munroe a reporter for Newsweek went back to the projects and in Chicago to see where he had been reared and all and he said as he sees that the image of a black man in America is like when he gets on an elevator a woman she grabs her purse a little tighter to herself fear that this black man is gonna steal it he's walking down a deserted Street with a black friend and a white couple is walking toward them and they they crossed the street for fear of these black men is that the image of black men in America as you see it well one of the things that I'm concerned with in one of the books that I've read encountering the conspiracy to strobe like boys is what happens early on and one of our concerns that we have studies the document that black boys may be the best teams in the country up until fourth grade so the question is what happens to black boys in the intermediate upper grades to begin to create the kind of image that you're talking about when they become 18 years and older I sincerely believe that only men can make boys men now don't misquote me I did not say that a single female parent could not rear or educate her child but she need not do that by ourselves we could I understand one television time is trying to make the point very clear where black boy is gonna see black men if you look at the home 38 percent 30 38 percent of all black children live in a single run household in terms of school age news and relevancy schoolteachers for women ninety-five percent of our teacher aides are women when you look at on television you'd be hard-pressed to name five positive black men on television outside the news especially if I excluded Bill Cosby and then unfortunately many young people men do don't go to church so the last place is the streets and that's the problem the streets do a very poor job making black men what about your problem is black boys have a difficult time seeing strong black male role models which why these kind of shells are very important what about Eddie Murphy is a positive male role yes I have concerns about that i reaiiy respect his ability to use his talent but there are other ways I mean images are very important and even though and even his last movie where he was he even used a plug about Bill Cosby said you know can you make things funny without using four-letter words and so what and so on it's as if Eddie Murray say you understood it but he wasn't right back to using four-letter words throughout his entire shop like we have to clean that up how about any of the black men in the audience this morning have you ever had experiences where when you take off the coat and tie you're treated differently yes Carl TOEIC I mean I'm sorry Emmett or definitely I'm involved in politics and when I'm it was undressing down I'm seeing a lot different than when I had my tie on how are you treated differently well take like take take for instance if you're walking walking and down the street and you know I grew up in a white environment most of my life if I'm by myself and I'm walking around white people they're gonna look at me strangely as if I've done something red that I've done it or not but I wanted to ask questions I want the the gentleman to address as far as the media and government how they downgrade our leadership and also our government how they how they spend more of money putting our brothers and sisters in jail and as far as not taking care of the educational part I think that's a root of our problems as far as black American education I like to reinforce that America spends two thousand three hundred dollars on hit start three or four trip point they spend twenty two thirty eight thousand dollars on prison something we need to raise the right questions how long you staying hit starting year two years of the month how long you stay in prison the rest of your life question number one question number two which one works a longitudinal study documents that Head Start works but in terms of prison eighty five percent of inmates to get release go right back in so it's Jesse Jackson says we have two choices middle-class white America you can have this to me to Penn State or to state pen I don't I don't I don't expect I don't institutions in America to project positive mail blackmail images blackmail images are created through revolution through fighting to change the kind of oppression oppressive conditions that have existed here and that exists and the positive images that we all can be very proud of our movers such as dr. Martin Luther King and historically not the private turn of Denmark Vesey the Black Panthers who are the Black Panther Party nah twisted wasn't that a great wasn't that a great boost well the black men in this country well we think so and of course that we were wiped out systematically there were about a million pages of information compiled upon me alone I don't know how many millions of illegal I don't know how many illegal break-ins but I know I suffered at least 20 or 30 illegal break-ins there were FBI documents that falsified bank records sent around and the bank recs resistant around to our supporters they were character assassination everything you scared people Huey Black Panthers scared Pete any time the black man attempts to change the slave image he will scare white people so the Black Panther Party I thank you when do you say that we scared people that means that we were creating a positive black image for ourselves Carlton you were an original Panther also correct I was one of the original members of Huey's defense team when he was first charged with the murder of officer Frey and the assault on officer Haynes I have many comments to make and I'm not going to be able to make them all but I would like to make them in order of importance we are celebrating Martin Luther King's birthday today I think that we should be at some point considering making Huey P Newton's birthday a national holiday when I first when I first came to the Bay Area from Chicago I was appalled at the way the police were oppressing black people in the ghetto and the only man who had the guts to stand up was Huey P Newton along with his associate Bobby Seale I was very proud of his actions I thought that Martin Luther King taught us how to pray and how to arouse the conscience of our oppressor and I thought that Huey P Newton taught us how to stand up to our oppressor and for that I think he should be accorded national holiday okay thank you girls did a nice job with that I grew up in San Francisco in the Hunters Point Naval projects and I could remember being about six or seven and we had an area for the Black Panthers up in Hunters Point and I felt so protected that they were there I felt that I could go outside and everything was beauty the people the black people were together in Hunters Point and when we had that big riot on 3rd Street everybody began stealing from each other not at that point but it just like we lost our togetherness we lost it now that you look back over the entire Black Panther movement uh are you buoyed by it I mean was it a real positive experience I think it worked I think that we we accomplish some of the goals that we set out for of course that blacks are not free in the United States to this very day so we have not accomplished freedom but there I hope that we laid down a history that we contributed to the continued struggle for freedom let's take commercial break we'll be back [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Ishmael Reed you were unhappy with the film the color purple and the way it portrayed black men why well in my new book rightness fighting plug plug I that's okay outlined some of my reservations about the film I thought it was a kind of diction for the writer and the industry behind the writer this is a collective decision wasn't her decision alone they had a meeting these are feminists I thought was a kind of diction for them to take a film about like male chauvinism to the biggest male chauvinist in Hollywood you wouldn't take a film about the Martin Luther King to Bull Connor ask him to do it okay the people say racism sexism of the same I couldn't imagine that happening so well this this movie was taken to Steven Spielberg who's been criticized by Asian American organizations irish-american organizations for his depiction of Irish and Asian and some films and understand loop film with my wife and daughter saw yesterday is anti-japanese so they took this product to him and the goal apparently was to make money do you understand now we have a cold distorted alice's image from her book that's up to her I mean she was a consultant on the film she was on understood working on a film until the what you like what what were the characters I mean it was one story not very nice man I mean she has a right to write what she wants to and Hollywood has a right to to I mean this is my Luther King Day we're for freedom we're not I'm not from censorship they like to do what they wanted I'm just pointing out the contradictions in a feminist city I love you now we have another color purple clone coming up where they could do a lot of these cuz they made a lot of money made over a hundred million dollars so and I understand from fortune 500 that Steven Spielberg's almost a billionaire so you know we're like a natural resource that's one thing black males are they take our stuff and make a lot of money out of it I should we should hire ourselves up like the coal industry or something but anyway yeah there's a new film coming out which is gonna be done by the producers of rocky same thing of feminists took a product about black male chauvinism and took it to who produced the misogynistic movie rocky and the movie rocky made millions of dollars exploiting the public because our fear of black males you know you had the scene where mr. t I hit on the man's wife and I kind of thrill everybody when he got knocked out or beaten or was conquered by Rocky so I think one thing about black sexism is it's a big business and that may be the reason that it'll be hard to eradicate it so what you're saying that they're making a big business on the misery of black men oh yeah I'm lifting them well the ironic thing is these people are liberals you know the people who participated in this this this wasn't given us to buy the right wing it was given us to buy liberal liberals in Hollywood were the ones who produced this and that's you have a kind yes I think that we'll all agree that education would be the key to remedying many of the problems that we have in country today with respect to the images of black male I'd be interested to hear from some of the Caucasian members of the audiences how they could how as citizens and taxpayers we could do something to increase the number of blacks in the graduate schools I've been teaching in law schools for 12 years and the highest point of enrollment was during the 68 to 71 period after the Black Panther Party was organized as you know there were many more job openings there were more educational opportunities but now enrollments are now down and we want to see how can we increase that well we're not getting any comments from our we've got to comment about education early I feel like you're right and I feel like it's a very lacking part of our society that we don't address the needs of the black student but I think it needs to start younger than that I think it needs to start in the grammar schools and I'd like to know how we can change this to make this happen what do we need to do I don't feel that education addresses the needs of the black student I totally agree one of our problems before even the issue of prison blind children at 17 percent of all children in this country but they're 41 percent of all the special air children the edge of a mentally [ __ ] to learn disabled children the a disorder children 17 doesn't equal 41 and it labels specially where for in terms of black children 85% of time is going to be a black boy see the real challenge is to female teachers they have designed a classroom for female students the student with the least chanting placing especially where is the white female then the black female then the white male and then the black male so white boys also have similar problems with this female run classroom in other words if you know the boys have a higher energy level a lot more moving in a classroom if you know that boys are more advanced gross motor then a lot more gross motor activities and you understand that boys are higher ego or some other kinds of issues we need to allow for that more in our classroom and many times we are doing that and we need to pay teachers so that black men and white men would like to become educators at early grades very well I was an affirmative action officer at a major company for four years and while I was there one of the programs that we started was having some of our black engineers and other female engineers and different representatives of minorities go into the high schools with us and make presentations about the fields that they were in and what it would take to do that as far as an engineer or a technician etc I think that was a real start and I had some mixed feelings about it I never liked it to look staged but it was I think real effective in getting the students to think about it and my only other common reason to have that same program in elementary schools the role model mentor program is a very good program and need to have more of them how do you feel about you is it Joseph Clark I'm not sure I have his name right I hope so the the principal is also Clark Joseph who's hot who's trying to make the schools work who's saying if you don't you know if you don't put your nose to grindstone you're out and he's running into all kinds of trouble he brought me into his school to speak and my concern about Joe Clark is that anytime you have a school where there's a high disciplinary problem high drug problem you can't teach when schools are not safe he was a major contribution in making the school safe but but good principals are also strong instructional leaders Joe Clark is not a very strong instructional leader he made the school safe now we need to have another kind of administrator in there for instruction or leadership in other words you need to have someone else who would make the school say that did not have to come out of the principal's office we got it back that somebody else born just a moment stay tuned [Applause] [Music] [Applause] talking about the image of black men in America and mostly we've heard black people talking about and somewhat how they perceive themselves and the white members of our audience the the other colors are not saying much about image I mean is there a reason to fear in your minds a black man walking down the street and exercise clothes does anybody feel that they have to hold their purse closer or maybe they're gonna can't leave the car unlocked Angelo I don't know but uh I don't want to cheat you either because I'm Puerto Rican so I'm part of the rainbow coalition here you know I'm from New York home of the Howard Beach and one of the problems is although we have to talk about long-term problems and structural problems in the society and how you know images are projected what are you doing the short term and that is the fact that that you have that fear you have you know people that can say you know more blacks and Puerto Ricans and Latinos are in prison then you know white people are in you know proportionately that there's more crime and you know black areas and you have this image you know that is based on some realities in the sense of the immediate thing that doesn't deal with the long-term thing how do you deal in the short term with those kinds of issue how do you address that in terms of you know if you see a black man on the street and he's not in coat and tie maybe even if he is you have some fear well I think people have fear people have fear of me you know as a puerto rican also so there's a lot of fear around but again the question is how do you like in new york city the city is very very polarized now for example how do you deal with those things as I said in the short run one thing we can answer that question very quickly by simply asking ourselves why are black people brought to this country we're brought it to work does that reason exists today America has a problem what do they do with the people they no longer need but remember how you phrase the question determines the answer the Negro question is what are they going to do for us the African question is what are we going to do for ourselves in other words and very quickly what I'm trying to get at is that their good intentioned parents to tell their children to get a good education to get a good job I don't lie to my two sons 15 and 10 I tell them to get a to get a good education to be like their father to be the boss to run their own corporations in America you can have a BA in May and I have a PhD and you can still be out of work in other words well-trained but poorly educated so programs like minister for archons self-help programs sees the contradiction for America to condemn a Louis Farrakhan to condemn the Black Panthers who are reinforcing self-help connectivities they need to create income and jobs in the black community we earn two hundred eight billion dollars but we spend ninety three percent of our money somewhere else what you spend your money is what you spend your job cut I wanted to make the point in the concurrence with what the gentleman just said and that is that education frankly is overrated in terms of what it will do for the black blacks in America it's a merely a tool and the bottom line are the economics involved as Louis Farrakhan pointed out why can't we at least make our own toilet paper our own soap and our own toothpaste and not be dependent upon the dominant culture for our basic needs it was also pointed out to me that I should respond to how it made me feel for example when I was stopped by a Albany police officer walking along the street at four o'clock in the morning in my jock suit and tennis shoes going home because he didn't know me first thing he did he approached me and asked me for my ID well I don't carry ID in my jock suit when I gave him my name I gave him my nom de plume cuz I'm a poet and my nom de plume is Allen Philip Dekker drove when he couldn't come up with anything on the computer he was very incensed now he got angry at me simply because he couldn't find anything on the computer which should have indicated that I wasn't in any trouble or hadn't been in any trouble but the fact of the matter is I was very incensed about this incident and I think that the fact that a black man not in a shirt and tie is oppressed more than other people is one of the indicia of racism in this country okay we'll be back in a moment [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Carolyn yeah no question I just wonder why sometimes often black men choose white women over black one I don't understand that well I think that's very easily answered by the fact that we still live in a world where we base images or beauty of Europeans in other words of America defines beauty as light-skinned long hair and blue eyes haven't they told you what ugly is there are still people even in this audience using terms like good hair if you know what good area is you've got to know bad areas if you know what pretty eyes are you have to know what ugly eyes are that's dialectic once you know it is you are the map you know what's not well you know it's amazing about racism when I was in Florida I'm finding Europeans trying their best to run down to Florida to get a suntan to look like us and then I find us running all the cream try to look like them do not be black women even in this audience cannot swim afraid that's gonna go back go back to weigh what are you afraid of it going back to [Applause] black men walking down the street in the middle of the night anyone walking down the street in the middle of the night will be stopped by a police officer because that's not a common time to be out and if someone was walking down the street in your neighborhood at 3:00 in the morning wouldn't you wonder no matter what color they were what they were doing this yeah starlet one thing I was gonna dress in there and said I don't think it because you were colored and if you're saying that the officer had an attitude at all it might have been any question that you were giving false ID was there any other reason not just because of your color but first they just found out that the Transit Authority in tho New York was singling out Hispanic and black men for arrest when they were not guilty of crimes it's a big case in New York right now that happens all the time started that black you know mention that there seems to be tension between black men and white men in this country I once proposed that the black men and white men oughta have a conference like the women did down Houston maybe they could work it out because I know every time I go out of the house I'm gonna have some kind of hassle with somebody you know I'll give you a concrete example of an anecdote instead of theory an anecdote something happened to me I've been trading at this coffee place on Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley for about 15 years people in very courteous to me I went in there with another black person a black man and I thought they're gonna call the riot squad or something you know I mean because two black men constitute a mob I guess that goes back to slavery so I think I think there's some some hostility and conflict between black men and men of other backgrounds in this country and I think it ought to be worked out in a peaceful manner so that we can avoid some of these conflicts and I think getting back to education you mentioned Joe Clark and his methods and everything I think something's wrong this curricula too we have people who do ignorant things because they've not been acquainted through the educational system with other cultures now if I were Jimmy the agreement I would sue my high school I will sue every university I went to for not acquainted me with afro-american people in this country now we have a case down here in a Stanford where the Asian Hispanic and Apple American students are just trying to get Stanford to make one earth one ethnic course a required course okay just one not changing the curriculum not making a curricular in a multicultural curricular so we can learn about Hispanics and other people in this country but just one and the resistance is coming from the professor's there and I'm gonna remind the professor's in Nazi Germany who knew about Schubert and Bach and Beethoven yet they were the ones who led to the Holocaust who encouraged Salah costs and usually in their lectures with the Heil Hitler starla what I wanted to say is that I don't agree with the lady saying that because you're not well because you're out after four o'clock in the morning I live in they hate people are up jogging all the time you don't see anybody being stopped at five o'clock in the morning four o'clock in the morning in the Haight Ashbury but that's because it's a predominantly white neighborhood and then what the way that's the way I see it I don't think I thought was it and you know it doesn't make any difference when it's a predominantly white neighborhood and white people are jogging but if a brother was out there they would be watched and they would be looked I hate to disagree you but I would stop this morning at 5:30 walking my dog by a policeman who just wanted to know why I was out at that hour like women are the safest group in this country I mean you know just statistically if you want to get back to theory if you're a white woman your chances of being murdered is one and 300-something the white man is someone and 200 something if you're black woman it's one in eight 181 if you were a black man it's one in 25 okay so all we hear about in the media is protecting American European women Jeff salmon when they're the safest people the safest group in this country and I see the police and all these other night errants or whatever these vassals and warriors protect their whole energy is directed towards its protecting the safest group in this country so I think we get in this hysteria about race because partially because of the media and I don't want to bring that because I'm on television I'm on your show from television nowadays okay Bryant Gumbel said this is the most important way of informing people educating people in the country and I think the media has become more responsible every time I look at that 6 o'clock news I cringe what do we do now women in this audience we weren't talking about white people have never arrested white people are never stopped or now see that's an absolute statement you have white people in jail we mean as the statistical average that blacks are more often stopped according to our number that we represent in society which is only about 11 percent you know what change it's changing the entire institutional as we're not gonna change the whole system to do anything but procrastinate but what I'm trying to say is we have to start movements like the civil rights movement continue it like the Black Panther Party continue it like the Republic of new Africa get tenure movements like the Nation of Islam because it needs all of those groups all those movements just to start to make a dent in the kind of twisted mentality white people have in this country why aren t beans started upper-class to the middle class because the arena has a comment here by the situation of black oppression one way comment my feeling is that as a black woman and a muscle it is my responsibility as what I see myself is the first teacher of a nation I consider myself to be a part of the black nation and as my responsibility as a mother is to teach my son the reality and the truth of the world as it exists not only my son but any child that comes into my environment if I see a kid walking down the street in this rain and he's got his coat on his shoulder so you ought to put your coat on your back ok if I see a child disrespecting an adult he doesn't have to be my child but I will correct him and that is our responsibility as black women and women as a whole we are the first teachers of our children who become our niche Joey there are white men an audience and their black men in the audience and we haven't heard anything from the white man how do you guys feel about the black man Ross how do you feel about it what did you I think I would say that I have met some white men that I haven't cared for and some black men that I haven't cared for I mean I really I was telling somebody a story before I went on the air and was back in 1968 and I was living down in Campbell California and the fella below us was carrying holding his new little baby and I looked over the railing ice and congratulations I mean you're a dad now and he said yeah he said the first thing I'm gonna teach this child is the difference between black and white and I walked inside and I said to my wife I said whoa I mean that scared me that really upset me as a white man that another white man would say he's gonna teach him the difference between that's the whole problem we got in this country Ann mentioned she was stopped at 5:00 a.m. I agree with the brother who said the police officer was trying to protect her probably I didn't finish my story the police officer who stopped me when he couldn't get a readout on the computer told me that I was gonna stand there until something came up where I gave him a different name I explained to him that my nom de plume has been in existence for over 20 years I turned my back on him and walked away as he pulled his revolver and his brother officer said to him don't shoot him it's not worth it and I did not turn around so he could have gone either way he wasn't trying to protect me but he was trying to protect Dan I think I think I'm lightning I think of lighting white males like yourself should go back and try to educate some of the other guys okay because you know I'm not singling you out as being part of the problem your ancestors are probably in Europe paying as much due to some of the slaves that's possible okay because there were white ethnics who came here slaves as indentured servants and who restricted an activity just as blacks were but I think that when you look at the problems in this country the institutions for example just coincidentally maybe white men in charge of those institutions white men are like less likely to give jobs to minorities of women okay white men are the ones who are committing incest okay that's one thing I Jets into the color purple because they had these black men doing all these kinds of things when the incidence is very low and of afro-american clearly of black men committing incest if you want to talk about rapist you have to talk about white meals again you know so I like that need to be educated invite me like you ought to go back try to educate [Applause] [Music] we've got about a minute and a half Rochelle okay I like to address this question to Huey Newton and mr. Carson I don't see how you can compare his wage to dr. Martin Luther King way he went he took his actions wrong he didn't go about it the right way okay a holiday for this man that's funny okay because he's wrong about his way all right we got it we got 45 seconds okay my name is Carlton Carlton we know all right first of all first of all dr. King was a very great man and his greatness was rooted in prayer and Huey Newton was a great man his greatness was rooted in what dr. King was praying for manhood okay Stacy well I see some black men is it's their attitude like you have the black panthers and you're in your group and you feel you feel strong it but then we have you're like separating yourself still and then we're gonna get a group and then you're getting another group and that's what separates us we don't have to separate ourselves when we're already separated but let me say this about dr. Martin Luther King dr. dr. Martin Luther King was put out of the n-double a-c-p because he was too radical and before that uh dr. WB Dubois who started in SS Ypres was put out because he was a communist and he later then went to back to Africa and died in Ghana I think that I respect dr. Martin Luther King and all of the areas the n-double-a-cp for instance is a legal area the southern Leadership Council was an action area I think that if I think the eye problem is so large and until it takes more than dr. Martin Luther King it takes more than Mathematica take more than QE Newton to solve this problem so our like us on how this young lady would contribute today King or in her teaching thank everybody for brought with us and I shall return after this stay tuned you

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[u/Trill_Hicks333]

Correction: The show is "People are Talking", not Donahue

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[context] What did Jimmy the Greek say? | CBS Sports commentator Jimmy (the Greek) Snyder, in remarks that touched off a firestorm of reaction and criticism, said in a televised interview yesterday that blacks are better athletes than whites because they have been "bred to be that way," and that "the only thing left for the whites is a couple of coaching jobs. ...Jan 16, 1988.

[u/118yorkmarket]

I worked with Jawanza Kunjufu when he visited my university. I respect his research. But as a person, not so much.