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ah this is a boring old Power Supply right wrong of course there is like you know what let's just shift the way we're building power supplies these days yeah I know [Music] what's the matter oh how is anyone supposed to manage these cables yeah this is pretty bad but I'm gonna assume you haven't heard the news uh wet news Corsair has something completely new coming dude okay so this is the new shift series power supply the RM shift series power supply from Corsair power supply videos are boring for the most part and they require specialized equipment to test things like their Ripple and their 12 volt uh rail capacity and all that sort of stuff and I can't do that but this power supply is a completely re a redesign in the way of thinking on how power supply cable should work so that's what we're going to focus on today um and also too no this is not a sponsored video we went and bought it today because I wanted to talk about this so here's what we're gonna do we're just going to kind of go through what the specs say anyway that I believe they have an 850 a 1000 and a 1200 watt currently this one is the 1200 watts um don't know why I got the 1200 watt when I could have saved some money and got the uh 850 watt but this was 296 dollars it's an expensive power supply but it is 80. it's only 80 plus gold for that price okay anyway um it is a pcie 5.0 atx3 power supply so it will have your standard uh six plus two pin PCI Express cables as well as the integrated 12 volt high power cable you would use for 40 series graphics cards side note that 12 volt power cable will not work with 30 series plugs for Founders Edition because they don't have the four pin sideband I've had a lot of people asking me can I just take a a cable mod 90 degree adapter Etc and use it with my 30 series no because it doesn't have the four pin sideband connector built in there maximum combined wattages here is a total of 1200 watts anyway just show you the let me just show you a shot of the back if you want to talk about the specs but for the most part um this would be more than enough power supply for pretty much any system you could build today even if it has like an RTX 4090 in there the reason why they call it shift is the cables are not in the back of the power supply that feed into the main compartment in a case they are on the side which when I was doing a build a few weeks back I almost grabbed this power supply when I was at Micro Center but then I changed my mind because I wasn't sure if the case that I was using was going to work with this because they haven't well the the cables are smaller first of all so if I compare it to one of the older power supplies you can see the plugs are physically bigger on the older power supply versus the new one and I think the reason for that is the plugs overall had to be smaller to allow for a tighter 90 degree Bend because the idea here is that if you put your power supply in your case how you normally would with you know the fan down like this that this is going to allow you to more easily route your cables where they need to go instead of going like down and around and back and then making this crazy Bend into where the plugs would typically be right here but my concern is different cases have a lot of different design in either shrouded power supply compartments or up top or they're very cases aren't ready for this yet for the most part because of the fact that they are designed with a traditional layout of the plugs coming out the back like this so they give you a lot of room right behind the power supply and maybe not a lot of room next to it the width of your case is also heavily going to matter when it comes to how much room you have to make these cables and again is there a solid plate right here where there's a solid panel and then maybe there's an opening here if there's a solid panel how much room do you have another thing to consider too is the fact that you are going to be forced to no matter what have the fan facing down now not all cases can you face it down it depends some cases are actually solid right there and they intend with The Gap up top to pull air from the main part of the system to help exhaust air so if you had to flip it over these are now facing the side that would be like the tempered glass side panel or the or the main panel which is not going to work in just about any case so you are now forced to have the fan down so if you're if you're considering this power supply the things you have to consider now are going to be is there room for the power supply cables to exit the compartment that the power supply is residing in and then is the fan going to be able to face down so these are some things that have to be considered another thing I want to mention too we learned this when we looked at the power supplies when we were at Micro Center a few weeks back the 12 volt high power sideband pins on there are basically what tell the graphics card how much power is available to it the 850 watt only has a 450 I say only but it has a 450 watt power limit available to it so what that means if you're running like a 40 90 you're going to see your power limit slider is going to be locked to zero regardless of whether or not the card bios allows for it to go farther you would have to get the 1000 or the 1200 to get the full 600 watt it does say on the box what the actual limit is for the sideband um 12 volt high power availability you know limit to the graphics card so keep that in mind as of right now at least the time making this video the 850 is locked to 450 Watts what we're going to do today is we are going to take a look at the plugs these are them right here and then we've got four different case types that we're going to take a look at to see and they're for different kind of cases with different kinds of power supply shroud implementations to see if this is going to interfere um with just a traditional type of build that you might try and work in so for the last several generations of power supply from Corsair they've been Type 4 connectors these are type 5 connectors and they say it right on the side I've always appreciated the fact that Corsair will put what type connector it is on the side because you can easily reference like is this a Corsair Type 4 that way you know you're not blowing anything up look at the difference in size between the power supply side and the 24 pin side that goes into the motherboard I'm wondering how long it is now until the motherboards and and connections on the motherboard standard shrink as well like they did on the power for the graphics card because this would obviously be less intrusive it is a little bit smaller gauge wire though than say the the older power supply so that's going to be up to Corsair to make sure that they're using enough strand to be able to handle the amount of amps and stuff it says 20 amp you know it's 20 amp Parish capability at least of the power supply whether obviously the power cables have to be able to withstand that as well um but you get your 24 pin this is a CPU you get uh oh here's your oh this see this is this kind of stinks what they basically did here was they took their same cable that you would be able to buy separately that basically terminates into the standard PCI Express cable that you would find in the back of their normal power supplies and then basically we just put different the different ends on there to match the new type 5 connector but you see how this is more of a matte like rubbery sleeve on there and then the ones that come with the power supply are glossy if I paid 300 bucks for a power supply Corsair which I did I would absolutely expect this to match the rest of the cables I mean sleeve cables already would have been awesome they're not they are individual cable at least but they need to match I think this was a supply thing where they basically went we have a ton of these already let's pin them out for the type 5 and call it a day so that doesn't match unfortunately so what we get for connections are two CPU eight pin which can be separated into a four pin so if you have an eight pin and a four pin motherboard you get two of those our 24 pin our 12 volt high power plug we get one two three PCI Express six plus two that are pigtailed so technically we have what six connectors on here but we get three non pigtail this is awesome because if you're running a graphics card that has like let's say you're running an older 30 series or nothing well yeah custom 30 series 20 series that use three of the eight pin PCI Express you can have these individually running to them without having to have the pigtail on there that's more of an aesthetic thing this might be a little bit of performance degradation like a percent or two all within the margin of error by running a pigtail off of one cable it's really negligible this is just easier to run and have them look clean without having to pigtails on there but with that I'm going to go ahead and plug in just the C the CPU power because I want to see how tight of a Bend the smaller gauge wire and the more delicate pins in here really have me worried about putting too much of a bend on there so without like cranking it down I don't know that's probably about maybe 20 millimeters between the where the radius is and the plug so you'd have to have at least that much room on the side of your power supply and any shroud or anything in the way before that becomes a problem the idea with this is they believe that it's going to be easier to plug things in put the power supply in plug things in or maintenance it or whatever the problem is if you have anything in the way you and you Cable Management stuff if you need to access these cables and you have to unplug it and like pull it out you're gonna have to uncable manage to get your slack to be able to pull out far enough to unplug these if it's not accessible and if it comes in through the backside and not in through the side or through the front this could end up being a godsend in terms of terms of cable management and ease of access or a nightmare so it's nice to see companies thinking forward and like how can we how can we get out of the normal box that things are designed within and make them different we're going to see now in the couple of cases that we're going to try here four different types on whether or not it makes it better or Worse okay so first things first this is the o11 dynamic Evo it's very similar to The Standard o11 it's a lean Lee case um so this is everything we've got to work with here here's our cable management stuff this is like a little shroud or not shroud but a support for the power supply so if we look at a standard size power supply and the fan has to face this way if you face the fan that way it's going to be against here and not get any solid airflow so it has to face this way it has to enter from the case not through the back so you can see with the plugs right here it makes a lot of sense for it to have the plugs back here because then it can route right to the chambers and have plenty of room so that in itself is not a problem so I have my cables plugged in and I want to show you something here they have a row of cables that are faced like kind of like oriented long ways with the power supply and then we have an entire group of cables here as you can see that are oriented 90 degree perpendicular or offset to that so this allows us to be able to bend the cables this way nicely whereas if we knew the cables had to go up or something we could potentially move a cable like over here and then it can route up or down whichever so I chose to Route I put everything in the front right here which does tend to start to get a little bit thick and kind of jumbled up of wires through there but then that'll be in the way of the hard drives so we would really be kind of blocking off our hard drive cables there I don't think it's any I don't think it's any more convenient to work on than say this being in the back if anything I would probably say this is a little bit less convenient to work on because if the cables are right here I still had a chance of unplugging some but if I needed to access these cables I'd have to make sure during the build that I leave a fair amount of slack on them and hope they're long enough at that point that way if I had to go and take it out I'd be able to kind of like smoosh it in there and then get it out like that the other thing too is I could technically if I wanted to swap the position of the power supply in this case to the top and move the hard drive cage to the bottom so then we'll have this space up here to work with but now we're dealing with a lot of excess like the PCI Express or the the P the CPU power is right here so now we have all this extra CPU cable that we'd have to like bundle up or something which is going to start to fill this area up quite a bit I'll just call this one sort of a neutral opinion on how well it would work in this case one thing I want to point out though is having to kind of like push it in there as hard as I did this wire is getting pinched not a lot but there's enough because it's having to push against this piece that that would be sort of a problem in terms of making sure you're like hey if that makes its way through the installation and touches you know the metal that's going to be a problem so before I move on to another case I'm going to go ahead and take this piece out and I want to see how much more room we get now this only works with this case because modularity right if yours didn't have something like that that could come out see now look at this now I've got plenty of room in there and I'm not worried about those cables hitting anything so I'd still be able to like utilize some of the space right here to sort of make like a little s-bend and then they can all still be kind of contained in there Cable Management cubby if you will all right that's just one let's move on now to maybe a little bit smaller case without an awkward Arrangement like this nzxt's build is a quick and easy way to get a new gaming computer build a gaming PC on your budget using the built-in configurator and see exactly how your favorite games will perform don't want to spec it yourself the choose from bld's pre-configured player PC systems designed to fit your needs and budget to see the full lineup and specs of the NZXT BLD player series pre-built PCS follow the sponsored Link in the description below so this next Tower here this is the NZXT 87 Elite um which is you know it's it's a mid tower case you can see the power supply has to enter from the inside and there's no shroud right here so there is a shroud on the other side which means I think I guess technically if you wanted to run it fan up you could as you can see there's enough room to do that if you had to run it fan up you don't have to in here but I don't know if having the cables be that far away see there becomes your problem you become pretty restricted on like that cable isn't going to reach the CPU so I would have had to move those as far away on the power supply plugs as I could but if I go face down this is kind of where the K like the power supply was intended to sort of show its benefit because look at this look how easily I can access these plugs they're plugging it in if they're too close together of course there for fat fingers like mine to get to the little release tabs so I just want to point that out so this is actually fairly convenient once it's screwed in which would be right there you can see now the visualization when Corsair was like hey let's do something different with our power supplies I'm just somebody somewhere in their product development was like building a computer and they're like oh why aren't the plugs on the side light bulb you know now let's say okay we got our CPU plug now knowing that the CPU needs to go here instead of plugging it in here I can just be like let's plug this one in right here and it'd be easier if I'd actually screwed in the power supply let's put that one in there and let's plug that one in there now it really is convenient and this is a mid tower case already spaces uh very valuable so it's a way over here because that makes sense our 24 pin is plugged in there because that makes sense and then our SATA could literally just plug in it could even go like under the reason why I'm going through this level of detail in this video is like this exists because of cable management so I want to experience what would the cable management be like in this rig like with this power supply look at that so then you could zip tie this where it needs to go if you have your drives down there or whatever and because the wires overall are just a little bit smaller gauge it makes them kind of easier to fit them in these sorts of areas so you can see how quickly I actually just got the power supply installed and the cable sort of making sense this route right here in a traditional power supply would have to come down across and then make a 90 or 180 degree Bend into the power supply which oftentimes people have noticed the cable is not quite long enough for that so they ended up coming out and doing like a diagonal run to up and it looks ugly so here you go it's kind of an eight plus fit in this case so what happens if you have like a kind of goes against the grain case actually initially I thought this wasn't going to work in this case very well but I think it actually will work quite well now that I think about it this is the fractal torrent in fact this initially was one I was going to say I'm not sure it's going to work well because of the fact that I thought it was solid right here if anything I remember building in this case before it sort of sucked because of the fact that if your power supply was too long you didn't have enough room with this sort of like a slope right here to get all your cables to fit if you had a long power supply so but you can see when it's centered on here it's not a lot of room between here and this rail so this is going to be our concern right here so I'm going to take my RM 1200 and I'm going to just sort of drop it down in there wrap the cables through here and see once it's in there I may not have access to some of the plugs oh yeah that's awkward so once they're in there it works but I'm not gonna be able to get those plugs out so I would just have to make sure I left enough slack to be able to slide it back up and then kind of tilt it up like that I don't like when cables are rubbing against metal this is roundish the bottom feels like it has an edge the top is round so if you're going up and down and up and down you start shaving away some of the insulation that could be a problem however this case I thought it would not work in very well [Applause] is indeed working and again not a terrible idea especially in this case because now as I have everything kind of farting around up here it can come right out the side now we're gonna have a lot of excess right when it's up top like this close to the power uh for the CPU you have a lot of excess but you know you'd be able to just sort of do this I guess maybe zip tie it together like that oh look at this there's already shavings I'm not sure if that's just from dropping it down in there right now there's shavings on that you see that yeah that might have been right now from just me getting it down in there because of the fact that like I said the Inside Edge there is not the smoothest anyway if you were to be very careful then you could just kind of like zip tie that together like that and then you could kind of hide it away like that so that's not a terrible problem to have right there these these three and a half inch Drive cages aren't a concern to me I don't run three and a half inch drives mechanical drives if you are you might want to consider the fact that these might be sitting on top of them like that you're going to have to flatten these down because if you look long ways like this you don't have a ton of room between the side panel so if they're sitting like this that's a problem you would need to rotate these if it hadn't be as flat as they can be against the side panel but again I thought this case was going to be it's not going to fit because of this and I think it's just Jay you're dumb because it's going to work just fine only issue like I said is this particular case it shaved the insulation just a little bit not sure how thick the insulation is so I want to make sure that if I had exposed wires right now I'd be like okay I need a new cable that one's not usable safely all right so there we go the fractal torrent a different approach to power supply compartments one that I thought was going to lead to a problem it worked just fine well that's a that's a bonus with the exception of the cable sleeving all right careful with sharp edges and that's true for any power supply by the way so this is the Rog Helios case and as you can see already there is a problem the problem is there is no access to the wires from the side it is not unreasonable to think that somebody would spend four or five hundred dollars on a case like this and 300 on the Corsair power supply and say oh because look look at the way this one's designed all my cables there is a power supply in here right now this is the Thor I think it is so you can see it is shrouded on this side and technically not really shrouded on the other side because it's got that temperature readout so it does have a window technically I don't think it would be impossible in here it just the convenience factor of this neat layout is lost at this point so if you were going to build in this case this this was a high-end builds has lots of wires going to it here we're going to build in this case you would not even be able to pass this power supply through the hole for obvious reasons and once it's in you wouldn't be able to plug it in for obvious reasons so you'd kind of have to do this you'd have to take it have all your connections on there should mount it down like that put an incredible amount of stress on the side cables right there push it through attach your connector or your little shroud piece and then screw the Shroud piece down like I can't even get it straight there we go so it'd be like that but you have now lost all benefit as to the reason why you would get this power supply this is an edge case and what I mean is this is a very specific scenario which I had to go looking through my cases out in the studio Warehouse to go can I find one that would be a problem and yes I found one but it was a high-end obscure case that was 100 intended for the cables to come out the back side like this as you can see does that make the shift a bad idea no it just means in this particular build it would be terrible because you would have zero access to the wires and given the fact that this particular uh chassis with rog's own power supply the CPU connector having to come out here was not long enough to go neatly across and up and into the hole way up here for the power supply or for the the CPU so it came straight diagonal across and into the hole so now that my CPU connectors are back here you can guarantee they're not going to reach cleanly they don't reach at all so all right so I found one that was like Jay this is a bad idea with this power supply but I don't think that's enough to make this power supply like a no-go for anybody in fact I even have right down there the 5000 T power supply on the floor or a case on the floor which I was going to use but you know I was like that's dumb that's a Corsair case of course it's going to work and yes it looks exactly like the layout is very similar to how the NZXT case was where the power supply is open on the side you got your channels and stuff it's gonna be a beautiful build by using the shift in there so there you go a very unique and interesting way to move the connectors the connectors have been shrunk time will tell whether or not these connectors can withstand a heavy Bend or or a few of them when building in them because power supplies get reused in people's builds all the time they'll they'll move along with upgrades until the cables are either no longer compatible or the wattage is no longer compatible with your build so as long as those can withstand all the flopping around and bending over the years I'm really happy with the way this was designed the way the plugs are laid out the way you have angled options and you can move it along the side to get it optimal to where your build you know makes sense so anyway there you go the shift power supply not something I would normally do a quote unquote video about but I thought it was just unique enough to want to go ahead and talk about it not to mention I've gotten no less than three emails this week alone of people specifically asking me if this sideways layout is going to work in traditional cases so I had to kind of test it for myself alright guys thanks for watching I'll put a link to corsair's website you can check it out down below like I said I bought this power supply so maybe if you guys felt inclined to give this video a thumbs up I would greatly appreciate it thanks for watching guys we'll see in the next one
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Keywords: psu, psu design, corsair shift, shift psu, what is the corsair shift, psu with cables on the side, best psu, best atx 3 psu, best psu for 40 series, best 40 series psu, corsair rm1200i shift
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Length: 25min 22sec (1522 seconds)
Published: Mon Apr 17 2023
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