Hulk Hogan | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #455

hey guys we've got some brand new merch to tell you about the tie-dye be good to yourself teas are now available you can get those in aqua creamsicle and indigo get that in more at theovanstore.com and I have some new tour dates to announce I will be in Lincoln California on September 15th at the venue at Thunder Valley and Las Vegas Nevada on October 27th and 28th at Resorts World Las Vegas tickets for these shows are available starting Wednesday July 26th with code Rat King we've also got some new shows in Toronto Ontario on August 31st we've added that new show and Milwaukee Wisconsin on September 8th at the Miller High Life theater today's guest is uh is a native of Tampa Florida he's one of the most known human beings in the entire world he's one of the most recognizable figures um he headlined eight wrestlemanias and he headlined my childhood if I'm really honest with you uh I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today he's a Entertainer an athlete a movie star uh today's guest is Mr Hulk Hogan [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you just eat one of your own teeth if you did that's the toughest thing I've ever seen anybody do no but I did buy the piece of bacon when these veneers fell off I almost ate it yeah I could see you eat my I could just see you just having one you know I was flare did you behave at all dude the guy I'm gonna just go out on a limb and say the guy's got some issues you think yeah I mean he just he'd drink his own blood if it you told him in a gin in it I think yeah you know are we filming huh are we filming we don't have to we will never even filming yeah I don't know if we're filming yet are we recording yeah okay yeah because 30 years I never saw him take a drink of water yeah brother breakfast hard liquor vitamins hard liquor yeah lunch a couple beers hard to look at night wine I love him to death oh yeah but I never saw him drink drink any water until recently and I think he's back off the water back on the roll again yeah he said he's back here he said he did 30 days sober and then walked across the street to a bar and turned in his chip yeah the funny part is he can he just can he's that's who he is that's the man the funny part is when he was had that really serious health issue yeah um I got a call from Wendy and it didn't look good so I flew up we got a plane right away flew up to Atlanta and uh I walked in the doctor pulled me sorry I was saying your buddy here has destroyed his body the inside of some of his intestines and stuff were dying and stuff because he's got a five percent chance of making it through the surgery so he goes in we wait I was Jimmy Hart was with me who waited we waited whether he comes out you're still alive um his girl's crying his daughter Ashley's crying I'm sitting there holding his hand holding Zan five percent chance to make it he opens his eyes he looks up after he goes Hogan get me a six-pack what first thing he said to me get me a six-pack when he woke up yeah I'm not shocked man oh no I was just tripping man just kind of blew my mind you know yeah he's a good guy bro he's one he's the best there ever was he's uh well he would he and he says that about you you know no he's the best there ever was is he the better wrestler is he the better and is he the Best Entertainer is he the best wrestler he was more consistent because I quit and I really didn't care about the business I came from playing in a rock and roll band yeah and that whole attitude but once he got in it he was you know he was real consistent and he held it down like when I was doing the New York Madison Square Garden thing he held the southern belt thing down which was actually a little harder because he was going an hour every night sometimes they'd do like what they call it Broadways where nobody wins you do like two-hour Broadways with Harley Race just just those two in the ring yeah because they didn't want to switch the belt so they didn't want to make either wrestlers okay you're going out Broadway tonight wow so somebody told me to go now Broadway just beat me I'm out of here I'm going to get room service and a beer you know yeah you know I say he was the best serverless simply because he was so consistent now I was talking about who drew the most money or internationally who saturated all the international markets over the years you know I had more time and I had more seat time like a good race car driver I had more seat time in all these foreign markets and Rick spent the majority of his career down south and he didn't have that yeah that swing arm to plug in that Mozambique zambali Malaysia all these places where people will know who Hulk Hogan is but they might not know who Tom Brady is right but you know he uh he was the man I love working with him yeah yeah he he um he's a scrappy he just will not be denied really you know there's something about him and there was something about that whole NWA um I don't know if it was AWA or NWA at that time when he was really the king of it you know but it came on I think on Sunday night like it was almost like I had friends that watched wrestling right they knew you but I knew if they really watched wrestling if they knew about um if they knew about NWA you know that's when you could tell if they were the next level of you know it was a lot of guys that just couldn't even read and they'd be in the stands yelling just signs misspelled yeah you had me dialed in to be like that whole Crockett Southern belt promotion you had to be a wrestling fan oh yeah rabies I feel like I was more accessible to the housewives and the kids that didn't know what wrestling was yeah you know so it was a whole different thing but then Rick came our way yeah and I'd been begging him to come up there for years he wouldn't leave and then uh once he came up then we started rocking you know was it scary whenever he got over to WWE did you feel a little bit of like holy how's this gonna go because that's a lot of ego you know it's all there's at that point there's a lot of ego there can only be so many men on the top of the you know on the mountain tops well it's kind of like you know it's hard to explain but I play the dumb Fox a lot you know and for me I'm always looking who's got the big dollar sign on their chest yeah and I don't mean to be an egomaniac but I mean I could actually wrestle anybody at that time and sell out I mean we sold out everywhere constantly for years yeah it didn't matter if I wrestled Flair or Kamala or Paul horned off Mr Wonderful or it didn't matter you could wrestle Hunter Biden dude I'd come yeah but yeah it was uh it was it wasn't that with me it was I wanted him to get over so I would have somebody to work with and chase you know so that was me it was about for me it was like the old school thing the money and the miles you know so you know I wasn't really um that into being on the road or getting beat on every night yeah but there was so much paper involved bro I was in yeah yeah do you think that you felt more like an athlete did you feel I mean because you came from a music background did you feel more like an athlete did you feel more like a like this is just did you almost make wrestling your music in a way does that make any sense because you're hitting you're hitting it on all these cylinders there I really wasn't an elite athlete that was great on the football field or you know a great wrestler you know amateur wrestler or y'all had a baseball background but I didn't you know played Major League Baseball I had a couple of things that happened to me that stopped all that stuff but I looked at myself more as just she said it's like an art form extension of my music and when I once I figured out what the business was about because you can Google Hulk Hogan in Japan you can see me get down and wrestle like Bret Hart and all the guys because that's how I started you know back in the day here I think I'm here on Matsu broke my leg the first day ran me off put me in the Doge over two years long wrestling hook submissions you know so you learned it all well I went through the motions because back then if you got your ass beating the bar brother you were out of the wrestling business yeah you know back in the 70s it was back in the late 70s a little bit different than the performance center now with the WWE yeah you know oh I can I can only imagine you had to live the lifestyle then yeah and you had to protect the business and if you wanted a job there's a 300 pound guy over there with cauliflowers you had to take the food out of his wife and kids mouth to get in the business yeah it wasn't like you know there's 40 wrestlers here that have been training you know at the performance center we can pick one when one gets hurt and replace replace him it wasn't that way right it was way different back then but yeah it was a it was uh something that once I figured the business out you know I kind of like watched a bunch of guys growing up like I watched Dusty Rhodes look because I was from here you know and then I also watched Superstar Billy Graham a lot and I kind of like stole a little bit from both of them and then I was digging and rustling and digging and wrestling around here and then I quit and I went to you know Northern Florida through P Cola and Mobile Alabama Birmingham Alabama wrestled and Russell then I quit that I went up to Memphis for a while and I quit when you were quitting what was it making you quit kind of was it just the money bro I was wrestling like 12 13 times a week there give me a check for 125 oh yeah when you're beating the out of somebody at a Best Western yeah and I was gigging my head for five bucks a night and then in between rock and roll bands one of the lead singers in my band got me in the laborers union here because in between bands we'd go put our go to the labor labor hall and they pull your number you may get a job for four days at the mall working with the uh a pipefitter or three days at a government shutdown working with electricians and I got uh a call to go be a longshoreman help a longshoremen I get in the union down there in where in Florida yeah on 22nd Street Causeway in Florida okay so once I learned how to be it was a weird place because I was probably the first white guy ever in the longshoreman Houston here in Tampa oh wow mostly Latinos Latinos and blacks yeah and so then I learned how to load the ships and I became a stevedore but in between wrestling I was like man 13 14 times this week twice on Wednesday twice on Saturday three times on Sunday I wrestled for 125 I'm going back to the dock so I was making 400 bucks a day yeah you know eating the gimmicks and working 14 15 hours you know it just didn't pay no so I quit quit I went back and forth back and forth but um then I figured the business out right then I went back and one time I slammed somebody I went I wish to the crowd like that in the reaction got more response than the body slam yeah wait a minute let me hit somebody of throat and then yeah I'm looking another action go you know more I said okay now I got it it took me a while to figure it out and then when I get fired from the WWF The First Time by event senior when I went to make the Rocky movie I went and spent three years in Minnesota and then I figured it out all right the whole Mania thing out the ripping the shirt the hulking up but I wasn't an elite athlete but I figured the business out and I got real good yeah instead of getting somebody in the corner kicking them 20 times like the guys do I'd kick somebody once and leave them lying yeah and I said don't get up and I'd walk around and strut like a peacock and do my thing and I figured out how to create emotion and drama and get people really pissed off at me really happy with me so I just kind of figured it out man but I had enough of an athletic ability to have balance and you know basically replacement have a Cadence in the ring which you know a lot of guys can figure out yeah man it's just it's really it's it's uh it's kind of fascinating to see like what because I I don't as a fan like dude I remember like you we would try to stay up for Saturday Night Main Event man and we were a kid and was like I remember my brother and I holding each other's eyes open because because we can come on till 10 30 right and like we were sitting there and we would wake up in the morning we'd be like what did you see like we missed it we were like when you would come on it was like man it didn't matter how poor we were it didn't matter if my parents were too busy it didn't matter if I wasn't a tough kid it was like yeah I fell in love with you it was like I didn't care about the wrestling you know like I did the wrestling was cool but I cared about whoever that per like whoever they made me whatever they made me feel you know and when you it was like it made me feel like man this is an escape like and I fell more in love with the yeah the person not the moves like it didn't matter who's the most athletic right you know Snuka was fun to watch because he had you know this hair coming off of it you know in these you know domestic charges or whatever just dangling off of them but he was like but otherwise it was like yeah it was about the person it wasn't about as much the wrestling yeah I figured that out bro and that whole thing I slid into you know that from Venice Beach California of course I'm from here yeah my whole life and that that whole being tanner than everybody and having the blonde hair and and just kind of like the training prayers and vitamins that impeccable baby face character you know it kind of like was just perfect timing with everything oh yeah so I kind of figured out you know right away you know that the character worked and I saw how I kind of like came up with a little bit better character than everybody else around me and I just wrote it till it dropped I picked it up and I wrote it some more and I spanked it and wrote it some more and even when Vince told me you know he runs over and I think you're done with it I said okay see you later let's work for Ted Turner for 10 years and taught everybody a lesson that was NWO yeah and then I went in the red and yellow for a couple years then we've kind of felt a little Runway I needed to do something evil you know and then that got red hot so you had good instincts then yeah you say that yeah you see a good instance yeah yeah well I came into New York in 77 as a bad guy because I sold out Shea Stadium with Andre in 78 and then I went all around Japan I spent 20 years in Japan six months out of the Year oh hey that's what I'm saying Google some of my matches people know about that as much no not really and what was that lifestyle I mean you guys get over there first of all you're twice as big as anybody there you're as big as some families don't weigh as much as you there well first off I was single right when I went over there I didn't get married till 80 three end of 83 December so in 77 I went over there and the guy that broke my leg the first day was a guy named him yeah right and then they ran me off you know because I had real arm blonde hair all the way down to my ass coming out of the rock and roll band thinking I could be a wrestler duh and then I went back a few months later when I got home my dad beat my ass worse than matsuda did damn he said don't you ever let anybody hurt you again so you know let's strike me right up so a few months later when my leg was healed I went back and I had that attitude you know because I was when I was younger I was real strong and and you know kind of aggressive and um so I said I'm not gonna let these guys hurt me you know so I just didn't let him take my arm right you know and so I went back and you know then they couldn't run me off and they did everything he could to get rid of me finally they just said okay we need to teach this guy he ain't going nowhere so I spent a couple years in Japan learning the submissions Hooks and all the UFC stuff and to protect myself not much but I weren't enough to protect myself and uh you know then when I went to Japan I had this Mystique of hero matsuda broke me in and so that carried a lot of weight and then just like we had Elvis here the Japanese at the time had a real famous Japanese singer like Elvis had his hair bleached out and here I come the new I played music so the first thing I did was I went in the studio and I cut up cut an album with a the most popular Japanese band called pink Cloud so I went and cut an album with them and so right away I got over so they love you then the other thing was I brought Freddy blasty with me I don't know if you know who he's classy pretty blasty right and he used to wrestle against him Ricky dozen in Japan who was a mafia guy because all all the wrestling in Japan is run by the mafia TV a sign everything's all Mafia at the time right I hope they're not listening but no that's cool it's cool yeah but yeah so now I show up with blassie and blassie had false teeth he had a set of teeth he ate with then when he wrestled he'd follow this other set of teeth down oh that's what he would do yeah and he would bite these guys in the head suck the bottom of the head and spit the blood in their face oh yeah and his first tour over there three old ladies died watching TV oh God so now I come over with him so I got matte suit under my belt I cut this music so the Japanese think I'm some you know Superstar because I just played music back in the day and now I'm with blasty so you were a king there as soon as I walked in there you know I was over and so was it interesting what was it what was it like what was the fan Hood like and how they treat fans different in America and Japan well it's over in Japan they treat you like you know your royalty you know it's just like Brad Pitt and you know Tom Brady all in one you know what I mean wow that's how they treat their wrestlers you know and you know they've got the sumo wrestlers and they've got the pro wrestlers and you know there's even the Sumo wrestles would be bowing down to us it was just really a strange situation and stuff yeah did you ever battle one of those you guys ever I almost did I almost did because they're big dudes yeah and they're mostly bristle right so when you go into the dressing room at night wherever you're at there'd be a sheet of paper on the wall and it was in Japanese writing of course I knew my name in Japanese you know Hulk Hogan Ichiban number one and I would know my name but I couldn't read who I was wrestling so all of a sudden the Japanese dressing room before I started Living and traveling with the Japanese I was still with the guy jeans with the Americans all of a sudden I hear all this crazy stuff going on next door because the walls are paper thin over there you know yeah and all of a sudden Peter Takashi the referee comes up he goes oh so-and-so Fuji shoots whatever his name was just beat up Kabuki the the the the Booker so this this uh sumo wrestler who's his first Knight and apparently the Booker told this Japanese guy that he wanted him to put me over but go in and shoot with me for 10 minutes not work and I'll take it easy but really go in and shoot and try to take me down and try to hurt me but then in the end let me win he goes no I'm not letting him win so they come over and tell me that I go boom you know just go oh no here we go so I'm going out there bro you know because that's there is no choice yeah you got to go out and there was a big guy there from Vancouver named John tentacle earthquake I don't know if you ever remember him earthquake the wrestler yes yeah I remember he used to be a sumo wrestler really good friends he goes no Terry you're not going out there I am I said this is all yours brother wow and as soon as we're watching through the curtain as soon as tento are out there this guy tried to hook his eye right away and man it pissed down off trying to beat the out and I was like thank God I didn't go out there wow because I would have been ready for him to hook my eye right away yeah you know I would I wasn't thinking on that level yeah but this guy was just really pissed and didn't you know he came from a sport where it's a shoot you know in the end it wasn't predetermined and he did not want to hear any of putting me over damn you know he thought he's gonna wrestle me and beat the crap out of me but sent John 10 to save me dang so you guys became friends after that we were friends before that before the whole tour I put him over I was hiding behind him like scared like a mouse you know we I was droving crazy for the last three weeks I was with him was there a whole university you had going on over there that we didn't even know about yeah yeah yeah actually if I was like in Minnesota for instance and I would wrestle on a Friday night if I had Saturday and Sunday 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weird because when I went to do Rocky 3 when my mother was still alive if you would come to my house she'd go Yo T come over here first thing I want to do is measure you you know oh yeah and that's what she did to me before I went to do the Rocky movie I was like 335 pounds I was six foot seven on the nose well then right before my mother died a few years back she wanted to measure me I was six four and a half you know between the 10 back surgeries yeah and the two knee Replacements and the two hip replacements and the abdominal stuff and the shoulders and all the surgeries I've had you know and plus you get older you shrink up a little bit Yeah you get a little bit so yeah I mean other than you know like when I'm with Skye and we're walking I lean on her so it looks like we're in high school I'm like hey baby what's up I'm really just kind of like hanging on you know for the ride or if I'm not with her I can pretty much walk I'm home from here to that door but if it gets too far than that I get like a walking stick which is embarrassing and hell is hell but this guy says embrace it you're a warrior I said you're right baby you're right I am a warrior you know it's a way to look at it yeah so I'm trying to adapt but um you know we're going in Monday uh tomorrow morning for another monogram you know because I'm having some more issues with my back and they're going to see if the disc is pushed in the spine above the hardware and if it is then they want to go from the middle of my backup to my neck but if the disc isn't pushing on the spinal cord then they said we don't want to cut on you anymore and there's because my left hip is like 25 or 26 years old they think there might be a problem there but we're gonna find out yeah but it's all from that damn fake wrestling basins nobody told me it was fake yeah did it get more did it get more fee like did the theater of it change over the years how did the theater of wrestling evolve over the years I say that when I first got in um if you kick somebody leave lace prints on them when you punch somebody you know we want to see black and blue marks yeah that was the mindset when I was first in and all and I was a medium-sized guy I was like 3 10 3 15. I was like medium-sized sweet Hansen 360 King Kong Mazda 3 360. all these monsters you know that I was wrestling and it's you know this hard pushing them around so it got to the point where you know these guys would beat the crap out of each other and it was real territorial you know and they'd work four or five days a week but then once this thing blew up and I cut a deal with Vince Jr after I was fired and I came back it was like every single night there were three towns a night running you know and so we kind of lightened up with the work and it was always supposed to be light but it never was because people were really laying it in and really really people get competitive yeah I mean would there be guys you had real kind of like you know yes you had a long day in the car with him and you're like tonight when we get out there you're gonna get it it got a little crazy yeah and you know I always had a little bit more of a Target on my back because I was the guy right you know so oh that's true so if you go and you break Hulk Hogan's arm guess what your careers made right and I ran with the pack a lot but then I'd also fly to South Africa and wrestle the heavyweight champion of South Africa and I'd fly to you know different places and be by myself yeah you know and Vince is going don't you lose that belt monster I'm like oh great you know because yes you could get hooked real quick in there you know if you're not thinking yeah and so there was all that and then when I come back to the States I do this wrestle you know and so it was all cool but it just about [Music] um 1980 when I went to Minnesota instead of digging and wrestling so much I started you know playing to the crowd more and then by the time I came back to New York to wrestle the Sheik they didn't play any entrance music they didn't sell any merchandise I pulled inside I said bro I'm making a ton of money in the Twin Cities selling T-shirts and headbands and Frisbees and all kinds of stuff and he changed his thoughts and on the way to the ring donk the place explodes and stuff just coming out with no music so I cranked it in the garden that first night with the Iron Sheik no Jimmy Hart my manager sat down and wrote most of the entrance music for everybody really he was a musician he was a composer yeah yeah well he was in a way before your time actually before my time thank God Jimmy's 79 years old but Jimmy was in a band called The gentrys and they had a hit song called Keep on Dancing they recorded at Sun Studios in Memphis where Elvis recorded oh sweet yeah been over there yeah and so Jimmy knew everybody to record everything you know and not to record everything but to write everything yeah yeah write everything and so yeah once Vince saw the music and um you know got into the merchandising and changed the game because you know when I went up there to work for Vince Jr um I lived right next door to him up there in Greenwich and so I was in the office every day you know for the first three or four years it was me and Vince in the office so you really got dialed into the business side of it yeah a long time long time ago before I went back there right the three years in Minnesota were a great education for me because I was with a guy named Vern ganya yeah and I was real tight with him and his son owned that area didn't he own that yeah he owned everything and I was single I had nothing to do but just learn you know and plus I just I just I you know I took to like a duct of water man I found a way to you know really you know progress and generate a ton of Revenue it was easy for me you know right I had a feel for it you know and I could wrestle anybody and I didn't even know if I was going to wrestle him all he tells me who's going to want to lose I don't need to talk about anything I never talked about a match really except one time with Rock and we didn't do anything we talked about so a lot of times you're out there just kind of figuring out like you guys each at a certain point especially if the guy's good enough for season enough you know you know you can make it great well I could go out there with Randy Orton not sail words matter of fact when I wrestling SummerSlam we didn't even talk you know then stole it so he wanted to win or lose it Randy Orton's old school yeah I could do that with Cena you know I'd have to talk listen I mean you have to I have to lead the match but I could do it with Cena because he's good enough yeah um rock all day long stone cold all day long these guys are really good in the ring bro yeah flare all day on me and Flair never talked nothing to talk about see out there brother you know so that's how I learned Andre you know I'd go to Andre hey boss is there anything I do that dude out there tonight don't worry okay well uh you know how do you want to start the match don't worry okay scared me to death you know did a guy like Andre like what kind of like if you guys were cruising in the car like what did he have to sit in the back or did he have to like be under a tarp in the trunk or the truck or something or how would you even get like killing me man but how would you get something that big somewhere um well we didn't travel together you know and yeah because the car wouldn't go yeah yeah well we we drove for a lot of years you know like if I was arrested yeah if I was wrestling in Atlanta tonight and I had to be in Minneapolis tomorrow night I'd drive right no so if you guys drove like you did if I yeah how could Andre be in a car could he be in a car he he they had a van they drove him in but then we started flying right early 80s we started flying a lot so it made it easier but um if you can imagine there was never a chair he could sit in he couldn't sit in that chair couldn't sit there oh yeah there was never a chair there was never a bed there was never a knife there was never a fork he was never comfortable when he sat on a plane his head would be sideways like this where the overhead is he'd be yeah flying like this and every plane probably just goes to the Bahamas that he's on you know but the hardest thing for me was you know the first eight or nine years he didn't like me at all and tortured me why was he jealous well I was I was hard-headed bro when I was younger I thought I could beat anybody up and I thought I could beat him up did you keep that energy like when you were in person too kinda like not not he just didn't like me he just really didn't give me the time of day but when we got in the ring he showed me how much he didn't like me right you know and then I made the mistake of bringing a flight attendant to the Capitol Center in Washington uh we've all done that and I put it right in the first row and I didn't tell laundry I didn't tell anybody and then I kind of kept rolling out of the ring where she was you know and had Andre chase me out there and then when he chased me I turn around and catch him real quick and then he heard her saying come on Terry come on Terry and he goes when he figured out she was met with me and he about killed me he took me back in the ring you know how you tie the ropes up he tied the bottom rope in the second and put my neck in and put a size 26 foot on it was just almost broke my neck in the ropes then I had those yellow tights on he picked me up like a damn stork yeah with my balls and my ass hanging out and carried me around the ring in front of this girl with all my junk hanging out yeah no more girls yes sir no more girls I get it but you know he just didn't want that energy there huh no because you know I was showing off oh yeah he want to be used as part of something and I was trying to get over by showing him off and yeah beating my ass for that you know that's awesome dude it's so much fun what was up for you maybe yeah that's true was there a part where it started to like where where did it start to because everything I noticed like there's a there's a part where it's fun it's beginning and then it becomes work you know yeah did it start to feel like that at a certain point I mean even if you're a hero to the world it's still yeah I hate it yeah I hated it I hated the business because of the traveling and you know the no sleep you have to make a choice between eating sleeping or working out so the prior priorities were working out first yeah eating and the sleep was the third priority so like if we wrestled in Madison Square Garden tonight you know and all of a sudden we're supposed to fly to St Louis short flight hour and a half singles all of a sudden you get the LaGuardia planes canceled you know oh my God you can't you know an old story just delayed it just you spent all days in the all day in the airport and then when you landed in St Louis you know do you go to the hotel first and check in and waste time or do you go to the gym first so I'd always go straight to the gym and work out and then usually I wouldn't have time to go to the hotel I'd usually go to the arena and I was always on last so I'd miss some room service and food so that was always a scramble and then I'd check in the room later at night you know so it was just a potluck sometimes the flights would be on time and sometimes they wouldn't but the traveling I hated the traveling because it was I was flying 300 days a year and it burned you down oh yeah that's brutal even with stand-up comedy it's like we get to sometimes you take the overnight flight because it's the cheapest back then so sometimes um when I was living in California we'd fly so I'd get in at 5 30 you get in at 6 30 in the morning or something so then they take you straight to radio yeah right so then you're there for two hours and then you get back to your hotel now it's around like 11 A.M but you haven't slept really so you try to get a few hours of sleep and then you get up and want to live it's just that the traveling Burns people out man yeah you get off stage last the food call has already been done oh man I remember I used to tease John Belushi you know because we we jump on a blower Friday night out of uh JFK what do you mean a blower all night you know oh you mean an eight ball that guy died in the coke I think whatever but I I jump on the the Pan Am you know to go to LA and we land I'm sorry brother I'll see you Monday because like he was on the flight back Monday morning I'd be on it and you'd see me like this oh man just beeping this traveling I said since you got here Friday night bro I've already been back to New York and back once yeah I had to fly back to Russell at the Capitol Center I've been back so since you've been here resting for 48 hours I made the trip there and back again he goes no you didn't I said I swear to God I did bro you know because you're out of your mind I said well so there was a lot of but that's the part I hated was the traveling um the only thing that I really dug was you know being in the ring because when I was in the ring you know I was real present you know I didn't think about anything else you know Ex-Wives ex-girlfriends kids business problems money problems three or four guys that wanted to kill me in the back I didn't think about anything you know when I was in the rails it completely in the moment yeah you know and when I the one the one thing that really worked for me was once I clicked I was not terrible when I went to that ring I was Hulk Hogan brother and I believed it I mean I believed when I was in there I wasn't afraid of anybody or anything and I just that was my attitude you know because if I didn't believe it you're not going to get them to believe that they're watching I believed it so I was so dialed into that character man I lived through that thing and it got me through a lot of craziness you know it helped a lot yeah how tough was it because you have a family right yeah and how tough was it um I always wondered like to your kids like to be because you're everybody's hero like you were like you know you were a hero to so many people right I wonder if it's tough for a child to be like oh how do I make my dad seem like my hero you know like how do I make my dad seem like my hero if he's everybody else's hero you know I wonder if that's tough for a kid you know I'm sure it is you know um the kids were real aware of who I was but you know the moment I would come home bro that Hulk Hogan thing was dropped really at the front door I didn't have any pictures of my house of Me no wrestling crap in the house at all I didn't want it in my house some of you guys have belts hanging and pictures of themselves but would you ever messed up with everybody like go to your room and don't come out to the Bell Rings or something like would you ever like no no bro I didn't do that but the thing was you know I was uh I dropped that whole cooking Persona and the moment I'd walk in the house I'd take the bandan off the bald head and I was just Dad or Terry and I was you know I could switch gears pretty easy because I just didn't live that character like oh yeah brother yeah Bret Hart thinks he's the greatest wrestler in all this crazy crap that these guys think you know I just let it go man it was a job and I was real good at what I was doing I had to there had to be a degree of separation with me because you'll end up killing yourself you know you can't live up to that character I mean all my guys are dead and I was a ring leader you know I was a ringleader I was running them all hard and I'd come to the edge I'd stop after about four days you guys keep going I'm out you know so it's uh I had I had to draw a line in the sand so you were able to do that pretty pretty it was it came naturally for you it was pretty easy to do I'm really good at stopping things or starting things and and she's been around me a little while now but it's beautiful you know she is she I mean you're handsome that baby I got me a whole new family too so I'm good nice congratulations what are you talking about oh you look at her and I forgot what I was talking about look I feel you I look I I agree with you just look that's all you get I'm not gonna look again don't look again don't look again bro I'm over here brother yeah cool we're good now um yeah there's a lot of guys that have passed away did you go to some of the guys funerals yeah yeah I quit doing funerals and weddings because I walked in on so many hotel rooms where the guys were passed away you know and oh over the years just yeah yeah I mean if you I don't know the numbers now but you could probably Google one of the guys could tell you right away but you know with baseball let's say over the last 20 years you've already got 20 guys died or basketball 20 maybe it's 30 or 40. I don't know you know hockey maybe 10 15 20. wrestling 350. yeah I mean everybody's dead yeah you know I got a retail store right down in Clearwater Beach and you know we sell pictures and posters and I okay that okay there's six guys in the picture I'm the only one still alive it's freaky man I'm sure you know especially because my mom and dad are dead and my brother's dead All My Friends Are Dead so kind of like the mortality thing can get to you after a while so when you ask you how how my health is I'm cool you know with all the backs I mean you can have one back surgery and end up in a wheelchair I've had 10. you know and so I'm very blessed very lucky bro you know and and just uh like I said I mean they're all in or I'm all the way up if we're in a party bro we're gonna party yeah if I'm gonna go straight I'm gonna go straight you know and right now I'm on the straight run yeah no alcohol no actually I did take two Tylenols I was hurting so bad today but I I didn't take Tylenols Advil or leave for for months now and I haven't drag since January 1st but when I go nice congrats when I go the other way you're not swear it gets ugly are you going in huh oh yeah well flare look I mean yeah Flair definitely I mean he can say whatever he wants about me but I put his ass to bed every time yeah because he's not a clock vote come on nine o'clock yeah he's down last night he invites us out right so we get out of work we had a show last night we get out we uh text his uh the lady has his assistant or whatever she's like oh he just got now who's the new victim her name's Gia she's I mean I'll tell you this she's uh she lifts chest a lot I'll tell you that oh yeah I'll say that typical player well she skips she skips arm and leg day but she really yeah uh and she said oh it's not it he just went to bed you know I just put him to sleep but he lives that thing he usually sneaks off on you though really I can see it he'll be drinking the bar drinking the barn you'll think he's going to the bathroom he don't come back yeah and there's usually this huge tab that he leaves so he's got a down brother believe me I know yeah yeah that's crazy short story floor story yeah yeah in between back surgery number four five or six whatever it was I booked this Hulk Mania tour first time I've ever booked a tour on my own overseas right Australia so I hired Flair and hire a bunch of wrestlers come with me players I need my money up front okay Rick sure all right for one of his wives I bet he brought one of them with him yeah actually divorced her right up he's always got a wife on him somewhere yeah and so I paid him up front and uh all sudden we're getting ready to go to Australia all around my back you know goes out again and now the tour is booked I'm following Britney Spears around I'm a day behind her tour picking up leftovers yeah I thought and uh so my background I had to have another back surgery right before I left and I had stitches in my back when I went over there you know still that's how crazy I used to be you know you need yeah you need to lay in bed about six months I was gone let's go Wednesday we're out of here yeah so I told Flair yeah thank you yeah so we get over there and the greatest thing was the first night in Sydney Sydney Australia Britney Spears get mad and shot the crowd of bird right so nobody came to our tours right the rest of the tour so we bounced around and picked everybody up you know and I wrestled Flair a bunch over there and every 90 economy goes hey I need another five grand tonight what I already paid you oh no I need another five grand said okay here's five grand and then he kept doing I said Rick why am I giving you five grand well you know we're drawing such big crowds you know you you know you need to pay me another five grand so depending another five grand I went down to the bar he's buying drinks for everybody I mean paying for everything that's what he's doing with the five grand he's keeping everybody in the bar to party with him all night you know and he wasn't going to bed at nine o'clock back then he doesn't like to be alone he said he said there's been times in his life where he didn't he couldn't absolutely couldn't stand to be alone yeah I thought it was interesting yeah because some people they like their piece they like their their space um yeah he just it was interesting even talking to him he just is who he it seems like there's there's not a lot of getting he's just the Nature Boy that's what he is bro that's who he is it's very admirable and it's interesting you know but I mean that is who he is he likes to have a good time and he will find it no matter what and he wants you to have a good time too I don't think I could be Hulk Hogan 24 hours a day yeah I don't think I could I wouldn't make it yeah well so I can't imagine yeah being a hero to so many people and how it is yeah to be able to be then to then be a dad would also seem like tough you know [Music] um what about if you could when you look back on kind of your career because you've had a lot of different angles you've had um wrestling you've had entertainment right you've had movies we went and I remember seeing what was one with you against no holds but yeah No Holds Barred yeah dude that was crazy when you did that dude that was a wild one yeah we went and see you had the thing and we're like what is going on here yeah sorry to see that he's my boy that wasn't that was a couple years ago right yeah yeah yeah do you start to get like why didn't you why have you had better luck than some of these guys I kind of reeled it in bro you mean you mean why am I still alive yeah it was after asking me yeah I didn't want to say it like no no that's cool it's cool I think honestly if we stayed up for three four nights in a row partying I would still go work out right nobody else would I would still go train I would still eat good I was the trading person vitamins I was actually doing that you know praying that I wouldn't die yeah yeah but but the vitamins are Percocet yeah whatever you know maybe a couple more but uh I mean look when they came out with Somas dude imma drove a car into an invisible driveway yeah yeah it went together that was one of the drugs a choice for the wrestlers yeah it was very dangerous for them because it would shut people's throat down my buddy Richard died he choked on some chicken that he didn't even know he was eating and yeah um but he took some of those muscle relaxers they relax your throat so much your it doesn't pull the food down a lot of people choke today yeah a lot of guys would get the Soma shakes I don't know if you ever saw that but that's a little scary God it sounds like a tick tock Trend almost that's just like somebody beating it just like and they can't stop it they'll be walking and they freeze and they I mean I've seen it happen so many times when you're eating 10 20 of them at a time you know but and people were taking that much pain pills to feel okay huh oh yeah oh yeah and uh you know it for me I would always um I never went down that road yeah you know if they're if you're supposed to take one or two that would be it I never went down that road five or ten I never did that you know you didn't have addiction it doesn't sound like really no I and you know when it came to weed or this and that and the other I could quit not do it for three four five years it wouldn't matter yeah you know so it's like but you know I just think because I was real consistent with the training and actually trying to eat good in between all the craziness or the drinking and raising hell I kind of like stayed on track where I would see these guys defect for weeks and not go to the gym and just drink constantly and just not eat and not sleep and I just I can't handle it man I had to be the lead dog man right I still had to be the main event where they could get be on the match underneath me and be slacking right I had to I had to blow the road yeah man to deliver you know I didn't want anybody stealing my spot because they were all trying you know every night yeah I guess it's strange because your teammates but at the same time they're low-key trying to take your throne yeah yeah they'd be more than happy to replace me and how much do you have to make sure the promoter and the owners that you stay in their good graces so that you also stay the lead dog is that like a whole nother thing going on that helps that helps um I just get myself in in a position that the character became so powerful even if I really did piss somebody off they still had to use me yeah you know because if I went somewhere else I put them out of business you know so the character it had a long run I mean you know oh yes red and yellow bro through the 80s and all through the 90s and then then when I went back you know the last time when I wrestled the rock and a couple other people I was still red hot man you know oh yeah I remember seeing a poster it said it said Ronald McDonald and had him yeah with red and yellow and then it said Hulkamania yeah and that's when I knew you had just done it yeah yeah there was there was real a real iffy thing when I came back to the WWE the last time because I'd spent 10 years trying to put him out of business you know with Ted Turner and we were beating the crap out of him for a long time and then there were a bunch of business decisions in American online internal broadcasting merged and they didn't want wrestling as part of their portfolio they want to turn to Classics new movies of the week and do programming was that AOL they merged with that yeah I took my boss to Turner and kicked him to the curb he had some off his way in the back of the building I couldn't even find him half the time and they just didn't want wrestling even though on TBS and TNT we had three to one ratings at the highest shows they had and so when all that started to decline and demise um you know I get a call from Vince you know he says hey man I want you to come back and you know put the red and yellow rub on the rock you know I said well I don't want to come back as a good guy I'm gonna come back as Hollywood Hogan you know because if I'm gonna do it right I want to put this kid over right you know and plus he I knew his dad I traveled with his father for years yeah yeah you guys you started with the father yeah so it was Dad we traveled whenever we were together and I mean I remember when Brock was like seven or eight years old I threw my headband and he caught it crowd of the garden you know so I had a long history with the family and all the Samoan brothers and all my guys and yeah I was there when the rock came back dude I was there then I came back I think it was 2014 yeah but anyway go on so yeah someone arrested you know I did everything I could to get heat you know right hit him in the back of the head with a hammer I put him in an ambulance chain the ambulance I ran him over with 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you go down to Miami and rehearse the message events I've never rehearsed a match in my life what do we even talk about yeah I don't know what I'm going to do until I listen to the people you know this with my ear and my heart I don't yeah you know so we I got out of respect Vince asked me to go down there so I go down there and Rocky Johnson's there's Dad oh yeah he played football at Miami didn't he yeah and it's hot as a in this Warehouse it had middle of summer and this other guy named Pat Patterson who knows a lot about wrestling and kind of helped me when I first started so I get in the ring of The Rock and he kind of told me what he wanted to do you know and kind of walk me through what he wanted to do and I was thinking man if you know what if the crowd doesn't like what we're doing are we just gonna keep doing this you know a lot of respect I listened to him you know yeah because you know it was dad and him and the family I listen to everything I want to do and then Pat Patterson goes okay let's go through the match I said are you crazy so if I fall down here I'm gonna get hurt yeah I need 80 000 people bro you know I mean I'm a one-time around the block guy yeah me too dude a lot of times I said look just we're cool and Dwayne's fault I mean Rock's father's going Dwayne listen to Hogan he's just yelling at him from outside just listen to Hogan you know so we get up to Toronto right and you know everybody thinks I'm gonna get booed out of the building and they're going to cheer him because he's been the number one Babyface guy there forever so we're in the dressing room and The Rock starts going over what we kind of plan I'm listening and listening okay brother Sarah we'll do it if it's there we'll do it if it's there we'll do it and his dad's going Dwayne listen to Logan so we get out there bro and it was boonham cheering me I said ah this ain't gonna work so we kind of flipped things around in the ring and he was so good in the ring bro he's like an audible man he's like that second generation third generation wrestler Instinct man he was there so it was fun but it took me about 10 minutes to get things turned around yeah to where they were pissed at me and halfway pissed at me and you know halfway for each of us so but it was it was a an amazing night I've never experienced anything like that with a crowd that was that was a lot of clip thinking on our feet out there that's cool man but that's how it always was with me I never wanted to talk about anything I want to go out there and see what these people want please start deciding for them oh I remember screaming so loud I thought you could hear me through my television you know well you know what that what you're talking about that main event laundry we had 33 million people watch that night still the largest TV audience for NBC dude oh I can't imagine how many younger siblings are in wheelchairs because of you guys oh thanks brother and look and proudly in wheelchairs too thanks brother I mean can we get some class action lawsuits thanks brother I remember once wrestling came on I knew to put on my knee in elbow pads because I was a young kid because I was a younger brother dude and we were gonna get it brother man that's cool what's been a tough thing like a lot of you guys travel so much a lot of it's tough on families what's the top what was the toughest part like uh was it tough on your family with I'm sure with the dad being gone it's got to be really tough you know looking back was there ways you think that you could manage it better or like flair said the career just takes so much time you just can't be home I had kind of this just sounds terrible to say but I have to say it I had a luxury that a lot of guys didn't have I kind of like got myself in a position where like if I took time off for a movie Vince oh my God I can't write your name down it's hard to book because you know Vince had a book old school book and he put Hogan versus Kamala or Hogan versus Andre the Giant and then you know there's a b and c town There's the A-Town I was on the b-town The Warriors on C-Town would be like a tag team [Music] everybody want to be on the A-Town you know because if you're in the first match in my town you make like two three five thousand dollars you're making money and if you're in the Sea Town you know the first match you'd make 250 or 350. yeah so Vince would go oh man you know it's just so hard to book when you take time off to do a movie or whatever like I did 16 or 17 for a bunch of kids movies you know on TV series and all kind of weird stuff but you know so I I put most of my time in in the luxury that I was afforded was the character was so powerful honestly you could put my name down I said it don't even matter just put my name down and say Hulk Mania is coming to Washington DC if you want to put an opponent they're fine but you don't have to and and the the character was so powerful as far as the drawing power that once my daughter Brooke was about two not about three years old and she started noticing I was gone I started winding down a little bit and I started working more part-time but I was chartering planes all the time right so you're using your time right so if I was Four Square Garden one night and I had Tuesday off I'd fly home right and then Wednesday it had to be in Mexico City I fly to Mexico you know and it got to the point where I had to buy my own plane you know to get this done oh wow you were really doing some business yeah yeah I was doing real good and um you know so I when my kids got up and Nick was two years behind so by the time Brooke was four or five and Nick was two or three I started to slow down so I spent a lot of time at home you know the last 15 or 20 years of my career but I still banged it out man I still had some crazy deals going where I still generated a lot of Revenue yeah and did you have full ownership of your own of your own character how did that work out with because it's you create it within the WWF yeah right so was there Partnerships in it and stuff like that you ready for this story maybe if it's uncomfortable no no it's way cool it's just really a little twister I own everything I own Hulk over my own whole community on holster congratulations I want a few few guys that are on their name and the rights and the trademarks and licenses I own everything yeah so when I first the name I was wrestling I had several names Super Destroyer Terry Boulder Sterling golden Terry the whole Boulder different Sterling golden sounds no offense I know what you but yeah I don't love that one I don't know well that was a guy named Jim Barnett who's a very nice man yes that was cool yeah he was cool you know okay it's a little light in the loafers but he's a good guy hey yeah loved him to death but um yeah he called me Sterling oh yeah that's what I'm saying dude that freaked me out man yeah but anyway yeah so anyway I went through all these different things and finally when I quit and I was working on the docs I'll Never Wrestle again I'm done I'm you know five or six times I've quit I'm over this crap I get a call from Vince McMahon and it's a couple local wrestlers Jack and Jerry Briscoe who are here in Florida Jack was his NCAA Champion World Heavyweight Champion loyal wrestlers yeah they said you know Vince McMahon this is perfect for you this is Madison Square Garden this is all the really big wrestlers go and they kept pounding on me pounding on me I said okay well I'll go up there but I'm not taking my wrestling stuff with me like what kind of a horse's ass is that so I fly up there and they had just got rid of Superstar Billy Graham because he kind of like they had some problems with him [Music] 330 pounds I was working on the docks running game on the doc's arm wrestling everybody stuff so I walk up there in the whole building's I can't slid through the building I didn't know how to get in correctly so I had to cut through the crowd for about 20 or 30 feet and the whole building started you know superstar superstar I thought it was Billy Graham oh I had a tie-dye tank top on I didn't even think about it and Vince McMahon senior goes don't you ever wear that tie-dye in here again I guess he just had a blowout with Billy Graham so anyway I met with him and he talks about what they wanted to pay me you know because I I just get tired of getting screwed over and they talked about getting me a place to live and having a guy travel with me which was the one of the worst decisions ever made that hooked me up with one of the biggest con men ever really I don't know if you know who or Banner was yeah Captain Lou Albano his partner Tony altamore they were the Sicilians Tag Team Champions I remember Tony okay well Tony was the biggest car you ever met wow he taught me everything how to slip and fall in a grocery store and we'll have two three grand how to do everything you know yeah so it just it was horrible to put me with him but smart me up what the world's all about so anyway as I'm talking he goes you know what I want you to be Hulk Hogan I said well what does Hulk Hogan mean he goes like that I haven't posted for the Polish Americans Bruno San Martino for the Italian Americans Chief Jay Strong both for the Native American Indian Americans and I want you to be Hulk Hogan for the Irish Americans here's two bottles of red dye I want your hair red and you know and they put me with Fred blasty and I told Fred I said brother I'm going bald-headed as it is if I put this red diamond here the party's over so if dog goes down the toilet oh my God he's gonna fire us I could care less and they didn't fire me yeah but that's how I get the name right Hulk Hogan to represent the Irish Americans dang and Vince gave you the name so now Vince died the Irish goodbye that could have been your finishing move ooh strong brother I like that sorry that would have been really good not trying to tell you what to do but it could have been neat because but what you did work great yeah so anyway Vince dies Vince his son takes over and right when this Hulk Hogan thing takes off we get a call from Marvel Comics you're infringing on Mark reasonably similar Lou ferrigno's character the with the cartoon character Incredible in the magazine is before the TV series right you know your infringing on our Mark we're gonna sue you put you in litigation so we went ahead and and let them have the name didn't license the name but they only had I only had to pay him one tenth of one percent oh wow so out of a dollar if I get a penny I had I only had to pay him one tenth of a penny and that went from 85 to 2005. 20 years fast forward to 2005. it's over you know and like now I can't use Hulk Hogan in there and I'm red hot in 2005 man I'm still jamming so into my attorneys I don't give a damn what deal you make you're going to make that deal because I need the name so what happened was we went and I got a one-year extension I had to pay on 30 of everything I made movies TV wrestling they got 30 of everything but if they decided to sell the name they had to give me first shot at it they couldn't you know sell the name or do anything you know right at a fair market value so all of a sudden Marvel Comics gets in a fest with the WWE about intellectual properties that they can't re-air old Hulk Hogan matches which means was re-airing on this stuff they lost Marvel Comics lost and the events like uh 35 million dollars and they made a huge mistake of including that in the deal and they said no instead of paying you 35 million dollars how about if we give you the Hulk Hogan name and I heard about it and I went you guys screwed up now because now I don't have to pay 35 million dollars for the name you have to sell it to me at a fair market value which is only like 750 Grand wow yeah so I bought the name backer and Vince wanted to buy the name for me nah I think I got this let me get this yeah I got this one wow did that feel pretty yeah that must have been a cool moment because then it's almost like you own yourself yeah so I bought the name back and I just own everything oh congratulations yeah it's really hard to do in these and then yeah how many guys you know that have that can say that yeah was there ever some products like people sometimes will try to get me involved with different types of things you know have there been interesting products or something you got or things that you got involved with like I did some pyramid scheme or I I lost money in pyramid schemes when I was younger but um but that was just like somebody tried to do like a somebody sold us like glitter mining or something like yeah some guy came in our town and said they were selling like some shares of like glitter mining or something but um have you ever had crazy products over the years you're like what the what is this that we're even doing well I mean we've I mean you've had a lot of very successful stuff but if ever just been anything crazy like we're gonna make Hulk Hogan like Ferris wheels or something and you're like well I mean I think I've had like 70 or 80 action figures made yeah I got a couple at the uh in my childhood room yeah well the one they made to kind of got a little wonky and got a little weird was they made a Hulk Hogan vibrating action figure which got real funky you know and brother yeah yeah I got a little scary brother now look if you keep one for the lady okay and I didn't look at I didn't say nothing sir I don't even know what's over there what do you guys do for fun dates now because you guys seem like you have a nice Rapport what do you guys like to go do together um we love to eat yeah we love to eat um we used to love to drink but that's over for now um I just love spending time with him man I'm a beach bum I lived on the beach my whole life the only reason I leave the beach is to make money now you can't get me off this beach yeah I'll just live right up the street maybe two blocks oh that's awesome yeah so um yeah it's a really clear I've never been to Clearwater before I know I heard crazy stories that John Daly used to live in a Hooters here yeah did you never know about that yes yeah yes I know atrocity got her own suitors oh that's cool yeah yeah I always heard that he used to live inside of a Hooter somewhere and that always that's funny there's some great stories about him and Jon Gruden um yeah Gruden was across the street does he yeah those apartment series of the penthouse over there he's a really neat guy that's cool it's cool he's pretty intense dude he's a good guy yeah I just know him from being around here I mean I've got him back home a couple times you know he's been out running around so you know make sure he's home safe oh yeah yeah he's a good guy yeah it was funny you um if you said you quit drinking I haven't drank let me see 14 months I'm 14 months sober so I don't do drugs or alcohol but um uh what made you quit were you just her taking a break I've been with my girl Skye for a while and everything that I've ever had happened in my life both of my two marriages everything that's ever bad happened to me has had to do with alcohol oh yeah you know and during those marriages there was a lot of alcohol use at times which cause major issues major problems and so um for me it was really easy to eat a couple Percocets and drink a couple shots tequila and a couple eight percent white closet okay brother I'm ready yeah and but then you know when I get with Skye I started getting an Ezra you know if things weren't said correctly or I didn't like these things sounded I would pick you know I'd kind of like dig and start and all of a sudden I started losing something I didn't want to lose again so I said I'm done drinking that it made it made just communication a little bit hectic at times Well it made me not go off like a Hot Pocket whenever I didn't hear something I didn't like it you know because I was I'm I could be very well we're not doing I could be a prick yeah you know and real quick on the trigger finger especially the men yeah you know and men have probably tried you a lot over the years huh because you were I've had some issues Yeah but I I gotta tone my thing down you know I'm tired of getting sued all the time you know so yeah the main thing was that is there other stuff that you want to do with your life you've had a really amazing life do you feel like it went by so fast sometimes or do you have when you look back on your life like and you still have you I mean you could still probably live for another 25 years you know but or maybe 30 I don't know you could live forever maybe I don't know what your plan is but um do you feel like did you ever was it like you were always looking for like a sense of accomplishment or what do you think like was like you're driving force a lot of the times probably the thing that really pushed me more than anything was you know I didn't want to do the what was me story but I grew up and I didn't know we don't even want to say poor I don't even want to say that I grew up not knowing that we didn't have money you know my mom was a housewife my dad were construction and I had one bicycle got stolen I never got another one yeah and I had two little trucks to play with I still had this little pink truck that I had and I had a big yellow Tonka trunk truck and I played with that in the door all day because my dad was a construction worker yeah and so I kind of grew up you know and then when I got older I realized you know once a month on a Friday we had one of those little minute Stakes you know and I just kind of grew up and I started realizing you know looking around that okay you know I guess they did the best they could but I don't want to live like this when I grow up so I had this crazy thing I didn't even know it was an affirmation I started telling myself money comes quick and easy to me and I just kept would always say that in my head and I said I'm not gonna die the poor Tampa death because in Tampa there's a road called Gandy Boulevard and if you're south of Gandy or SOG south of Gandy okay and I grew up south of Gandhi and everybody from south of Gandy either becomes a professional athlete or a drug dealer or you die or you were construction your whole life yeah I didn't want to die the poor Tampa death right you know you wanted to get knocked you wanted to get on the other side right so I wanted to fight my way out of that town yeah I didn't want to be a drug dealer I didn't want to die I didn't want to work construction because I tried construction as a it wasn't me yeah okay so I said I'm gonna fight my way out of this town you know plus I played music so I would do anything to avoid working a real job yeah okay so I played music for 10 years and did real well at that but then it got to the point where I was playing the same clubs and just it's just am I gonna do this forever right you know and so I just switched gears and went after the wrestling thing you know and uh it took me a while to adapt to it you know yeah it sounds like that but I was pretty aggressive when I was a kid you know and I just uh kept pushing you know I made the big mistake of telling everybody in this town I was going to be a wrestler did you really yeah yeah that's what my leg broke the first day but that's such a scary you know who did that The Miz I'm friends with The Miz right and hey by the way yeah that brother was keep this art form alive every time I see him I tell him I wish I love him yeah for what he's done but because he he understands his business a lot more than most of the guys do there's probably two or three guys that I can pick out that understand that business he's one of them yeah and he gets it he lives I mean he's always been that I remember him telling us before he was arrested he's like I'm going to be a wrestler and we thought he was crazy and then he proved us all wrong dude I was oh I was down in Ybor City and there was an old truck uh Blues image called Ride Captain Ride an old song I just walked over the other studio and laid the scratch bass line down for Mike Panera in the Blues image band way before your time but then I went back over to the studio and we had a chance to go on a national tour with Blackfoot you know and I just came off tour with this lady named Jeannie Conroy and we and we we came back to the studio and everybody was screwing around one guy was getting married and one guy's girlfriend was having a baby and so we get we can leave in two weeks and go on the road with these guys and Mother's Finest I don't know if you know who they are that song CM Punk comes out to the whole personality that band mothers oh yeah we were going to go with them in Blackfoot we were going to open for him I said brother this is our chance because our shit's straight right now two of the guys didn't want to leave and I was so pissed off so let me tell you guys something I'm done I've been doing this for 10 years I've been doing this for 10 years with a couple of you guys and I'm done I'm quitting and I'm gonna go be the greatest wrestler that ever lived and all five of these guys fell on the ground laughing they busted out laughing and it pissed me off so bad I didn't know what I was talking about I just said it because I was mad at him because they wouldn't run the road yeah and then I said okay damn it I'm gonna go be a wrestler you know it's just the whole thing was crazy I had a couple altercations with wrestlers in bars and had met a few of them so I wasn't scared to death him like I was because back in the 70s you know I'd probably fire hers and teeth knocked out and noses bro I was scared to death for wrestler yeah because back in the day when Eddie Graham here had the promotion he said Russell was fake they'd punch you right in the mouth wow I mean there was no lawsuits no lawyers or nothing like that yeah I love that I wish I was alive so like I was scared to death him but then I kind of got used to seeing them come in the bar because we had a really hot local band at the time they would come in to hear us play you know and then I kind of would watch him and I wasn't so afraid of him you know as I used to be but yeah just all changed man was your see your father did construction did were you at one time able to like say hey Dad you don't have to work anymore was he always a worker his whole life yeah well the sun the sun burned him up bro because he worked outside here in the Florida heat oh God he started out in the Panama Canal was where he met my mother my father's Italian my mother's Panamanian oh cool man yeah so I don't have to really go in the sun too often yeah my father's from Nicaragua so there you go I have to be careful how I say that word but also I I don't have to go in the sun all the time if you go out for 10 minutes you turn awesome yeah I'm on that team yeah so you know it's kind of like um what was the question um was your father pretty proud of you I guess a good question it got to a point where uh my family was kind of like not the most feely touchy loving family you know oh yeah you know I had a couple Brothers I had one half brother and then another little brother that uh didn't do too well in life you know and he got killed he was riding with a bunch of motorcycle clubs and stuff and didn't do too well but um you know my dad and mom I don't ever ever remember my dad you know really being affectionate until later on in life you know when I started doing good and I quit college after four years which I should add a degree but I quit go play music again and that really didn't work too well probably made him nervous huh yeah and then when I told him I was going to be a wrestler that really upset you know and then later on um I brought him up to Madison actually the night I beat the sheath I brought my mom and dad up wow to Madison Square Garden to see that and my dad had just retired so I just uh from that point on I just paid for everything and then when my brother um got killed I was real young at the time and I got three kids you know that were his his wife got murdered first oh here it's in the motorcycle gang guy yeah yeah my brother was riding with a club and he'd done a couple years in Rayford here and then when he got out he got in trouble here and he moved to Houston changed the name and then he was riding with the I don't even want to say the club but the Oakland chapter in California but while he was riding in Oakland um his wife was running a hotel management hotel and she was dating this mafia guy and she was on the Dance Floor after work just dance with the customer came and shot it in their chest twice killed her so then shortly after that my brother had a little problem with one of the clubs and they killed him and so um actually it's not true he died of an overdose and nobody helped him that's the real truth I don't want to say it that way but um so I ended up with three kids you know kind of like having to support him right and so I was running so hard I had to let my parents help and then the other side of the family helped but I was the guy right now and taking care of the kids and and my parents so well she had a lot of responsibility then suddenly to really to be the uh guy who's helping Finance keep things going basically I couldn't quit wrestling anymore okay yeah I had to make it work I had to make it work so it's it's been a test you know test of faith so you know it's all good did y'all have did y'all go to church and stuff growing up or was there any faith in y'all's home I went to uh Ballast Point Baptist Church well I went to Ballast Point Elementary School over in South Tampa and I went to Ballast Point Baptist Church with my mom once and then uh one of my buddies was there that I went to elementary school and I started going with his family every Sunday oh yeah you know did they have donuts and stuff over there yeah for everything God I love that dude the Lord will freaking get you with that yeah and so I didn't get it because I was so young but then later on I was like 13 or 14 years old I was playing guitar a buddy of mine who I played football with in junior high school he had a a little Christian Youth Group and uh he said we need somebody to play guitar so I went up there with this guy named Hank Lindstrom and I started playing guitar and then that's when I started listening to scripture and then when I heard the John 3 16 God slowly gave only the son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life bam it hit me you know and I accepted Christ as my savior when I was 14 you know saved but then of course I derailed yeah for a long time you know and uh went back and forth to church every once in a while and um my first life with the Catholic and that really wasn't my thing you know my kids went to a Catholic school and went to a Catholic Church I just I didn't feel it didn't resonate with me and then my second wife was spiritual but she wasn't a Believer so that didn't work for me and so this lady here is on the team so we go to church every Sunday oh nice and uh um it's a Christian Indian Rocks Christian Church and uh it's nice having faith huh actually I took a buddy of mine with me today a guy named Mel chancy he was the uh the president of Hell's Angels chapter from Chicago I was a one percenter yeah I took him and he was this guy was too yeah oh yeah sorry Ventura just told me that so many times yeah yeah but Mel you know and he went with you guys today yeah he'll tell you the story he told my Minister that he went away for nine years oh he was incarcerated yeah for Rico and for a couple attempted murders and then he he came out and he found the Lord and uh we reconnected so I took and he's got his own little Ministry thing on the internet he does really what's it called Mel chances yeah melchan she's John 3 16 devotional okay is that the name of above John 3 16 devotion I have to check him out is he pretty cool oh you're digging bro he's straight man he's really cool well it's interesting because a lot of you a lot of some of them were almost like pastors to us as kids they were you know it was like it's where you got your message of hope you know I think that's a lot of what faith is for people I know it is for me you know it's like where do I get a message for hope you know and um and yeah sometimes just hearing like yeah somebody like you can do it you know like take your vitamins say your prayer you know like or just anything that inspires like where do you find your hope as you go along through life you know and a lot of times for when we were kids it was I mean wrestling is really what hit me first um it was probably my most favorite sport until I started watching UFC yeah um yeah which I really love you know UFC is awesome do you ever watch any of that yeah yeah there was there's an opportunity to buy it a long time ago and since I passed on it you know it was uh before the referee stopped things yeah and they were kicking people when they were on the ground and it just was so violent when it was brought to us we went and uh that was a huge mistake but yeah no it's uh yeah so many guys you know that I know you know finally start believing more in the Unseen than the scene and they and they kind of like figured this life out you know yeah hopefully not too late but uh it's pretty amazing once you kind of figure it out yeah well it's nice to not feel alone I think you know I think a lot of people are looking for that these days you know I wonder like societally have we taken like I wonder if our society will look back and be like what a weird detour we took like thinking that we could find happiness in so many different things you know I don't know I like thinking about that stuff sometimes no it's pretty crazy man a lot of people just in this human Incarnation bro they're just all about materialistic stuff you know yeah and uh as soon as they have a glitch with their health or something they change it right away yeah you know oh definitely you'll start drawing pictures of the Lord immediately huge yeah man I'll get a couple bag and one bad blood test dude and I'm on you know I'm on bible.org or whatever there you go um what um do you guys take any vacations you and your lady have a vacation plan for the summer we don't have one yet I guess you live in a vacation yeah we do we don't have one yet we're talking about going some places last year on her birthday we were gonna go to Miami but I was sick as a dog or something but you know we've got uh we're planting some stuff now things are kind of straightened out it's been a really busy year this last year has it been yeah it's been crazy man decided to go back to work again are you but you're gonna wrestle again no no no no but I mean business-wise okay understood I mean nothing no disrespect to Bo and Darren Prince and stuff but they can they can tell you you know or anybody that you know they called me for stuff all the time and I think in the last couple years I've made just like one appearance yeah maybe maybe one but you know I did one this year already but that for years and years they'd call me to do stuff and you know don't just wasn't interested well I once I shut down I shut down brother you know yeah because this I'm I'm like a beach bum you know I'm not really into it good for you you know so I mean it's kind of like I've turned down a bunch of movies a whole bunch of movies whole bunch of TV I mean you know T I get calls all the time yeah TV yeah because you know with the content I have now with the bar in the restaurant the retail store here in the retail store in Orlando my son's back here and my daughter's here and my new baby here's got three kids and and there's there's all kind of content bro and everybody's banging me all the time to do reality shows and stuff and I'm just like I just shut it all down and even with appearances and autograph sessions you know I mean I use vo and Prince marketing you know when I do do stuff and you know sometimes the WWE will call me to do stuff and I'll just come on I still work for him you know and you know I'll kind of pass on that and or I'll do it you know it just depends on what the weather's like you know yeah out back oh yeah but no no I got in business with Tyson and uh all these guys to you know for this whole Wellness thing that we we're moving forward on you guys have a CBD line is that right we do we do when does it come out Bo help me August okay yeah and this is some of the packaging stuff man you know oh sweet let me see yeah so it's uh we're going for uh oh nice is a vape yeah yeah we're going for the whole Wellness aspect of it because after yeah boy after being in so much yeah what is you gonna do yeah sorry what if it meant what if every time I hit it it made it so that's how I talked bro it would work that would be awesome it would work dude this is a Vibe man yeah because the the ones they have are so generic I've Vaped on and off for about a year and a half so yeah I've been at the bottom of one of these boy I've been through it all no I can't even sleep yeah this thing will make you drive all night you're too much man so if it's Wellness like what type of stuff so CBD yeah well we got CBD for you know energy and for sleep and we're also going down the THC Road okay yeah because there's so many people that got hooked on prescription pain pills and prescription drugs and different drugs to sleep you know halcyons and Xanax that you know it seems like you know going down down that road with the THC is an option for people safe healthier option you know yeah and so you know I partnered with and you know and what I didn't understand at the time is to sell the THC you know you have to partner with somebody from the same state starting yeah I didn't know that you know so if you're in Michigan you got to partner with a grower in Michigan so in Florida we partnered with sunburn and they've got 150 dispensaries around the state and we start August 1st with them so I'm really excited because you know it's kind of like a it's a gradual transition it's a way to back out slowly uh from you know stuff that can be really addictive yeah which is the perks the pain pills whatever else you know people you know numb themself with the alcohol and everything else so I just think it's a more realistic way to wind down and get healthier so I'm on the team man I'm really excited about it and will it will you be like featured on their products is it like Hulk's meta is it like a yeah it's going to be Hulk's uh Hulk's uh products yeah okay and then we're gonna going to uh with the Delta eight and a couple things we came up with a a kind of cool little thing like kind of like an inside joke that you know when I was the bad guy Hollywood Hogan we were always riding dirty yeah we always had beer in the car we were partying in the car I mean National doing all kind of crazy stuff so when you go with Hollywood Hogan you know and you're gonna go ride dirty we're gonna have something called the mustache rides oh yeah absolutely ride dirty get a mustache ride with Hollywood I've given a call I think I've given a couple I don't even know what it is I have to Google it need to grow the mustache bro okay well yeah those are lip rods oh yeah there we go yeah those are lip fries too yeah those are front teeth rods some of them I'm really I'm pretty uncoordinated so um that's awesome though congrats man yeah so it should be interesting to see uh you know how my brand performs yeah Arena well I'm sure look and anything you've gotten into you've performed well so I'm sure this shouldn't be different yeah what makes sense you know it's a it's a logical extension of where I'm going and where I've already been so just the whole thing makes sense at this point you know everybody's kind of aware on how much this will help you know certain individuals and get some healing yeah thank god brother thank God but yeah I love them uh but that's nice you have your whole family here now yeah yeah your whole family's in town Nick moved back yeah and he helps me a lot well he's real good on the stick man he runs Monday nights for us I don't know if you're around tomorrow uh I might actually be staying till Tuesday so if I do you have to come to my bar tomorrow night okay it is insanity really it is insane what goes on in there I mean karaoke is unbelievable isn't it well my partner said karaoke wouldn't work I said that depends on who's doing it bro yeah you know so it gets really sick over there and yeah they got some real singers in this town huh well it's either really good or it's really bad oh yeah it's not in between so yeah but if you're around please come over man yeah maybe I will because I think I'm gonna stable I was gonna go maybe right across the street yesterday no we're staying in uh we got shows in Tampa one more tonight okay but I wanted to come to the beach tomorrow so maybe I would make that work and I wouldn't leave till Tuesday no that'd be cool yeah who's somebody that you missed wrestling or just spending time with like who's somebody that like that you miss well I mean across the street there used to be right where my restaurant's out across the street that Plaza right next door to it there used to be a gym upstairs and The Bushwackers had a gym up there oh really so for a long time the Russells would come there and then right down the street there was a World's Gym and during the 80s and 90s every morning there would be like 30 or 40 wrestlers in there wow and they all lived up and down the beach you know I'd bring them here to hang out for a couple days next year I knew they'd move it was like crazy you know and then the whole wrestling was based out of here for a long time yeah all the travel from Connecticut everybody's flying out of Tampa it was like crazy to go to Tampa Airport unless you see 20 or 30 guys on the same plane you know wow but my guys that were here all the time that I really missed was Randy the Macho Man we were together every single day were y'all really yeah every day man and it's kind of like I miss him a lot you know and so I spent years and years and years with him and he used to babysit my kids for me he did yeah or him and Elizabeth yeah but uh something not just Randy him and Liz but yeah and the other the other brother that I missed was one of the Road Warriors Hawk oh yeah I introduced him to his wife here you know she was a was Hawk the longer hair he had that no he had the two yeah and he well yeah well they both were the spikes yeah God they were good man yeah and and so Hawk was a Minnesota boy and when I was in Minnesota you know I used to train at a gym with Brad Riggins the the head Olympic coach and Brock Lesnar used to come down and work out with us back in the day and another guy named Kevin Kelly who was a real tough kid man and so I would tell those guys I'd tell Lesnar I tell Kevin Kelly look bro I'm the main event guy yeah Brad Riggins the Olympic coach he's in the preliminary match so you guys beat him you can try me you know so Brad saved me from these guys right you know but I used to watch Brad torture him you know it was great so wow yeah so Hawk was up there in Minnesota when I was training up there he was just some high school kid in the gym him and him and animal you know they watch us like Hawks and watch us like Hawks next thing I knew I come back like two years later and go to that gym and they're jacked up they've each gained 100 pounds I was like holy crap yeah you know we're gonna be wrestlers I said good luck don't touch me you know and they went down to Atlanta and broke in and they had a good gimmick you know a road warrior thing work but Hawk moved down here I introduced him to his wife she was an aerobic instruction I said I'm gonna introduce you to her then I'm out yeah because she's a wild one okay yeah and so no matter what happens yeah we're cool because I got nothing to do with what's going on you want to meet her here she is Dale here's Hawk they ended up getting married you know ah and so he was always here and I missed seeing him a lot you know because I hung out with him a lot and he they moved away he died oh he passed away I didn't know that he overdosed yeah oh and she's still around the neighborhood somewhere I haven't seen her forever and then another one of the guys that I traveled with for four years on the road Brutus Beefcake yeah him and I had a fallen out the barber huh was he a real bar somebody said he went to he didn't really go to Redken or something or was it he wasn't a real Barber and we had a little bit of a falling out and so we we don't even talk anymore you know I mean we don't there's no nothing to talk about yeah you think you'll ever patch that up um it's got a lot to do with the ladies married too you know oh it does yeah nothing really to do with him yeah so um what was the draw you know what was uh yeah this is one thing the last thing I was about what was the steroid use like because I used steroids when I was in high school you know we would get test 200 or 400 I don't know somebody made us I think made us some 700 one time um One Time We snuck it back from Mexico like shampoo bottles and stuff so it had like we'd have like soap like we'd it would be like soap in it but we were using it you know was it pretty heck was it pretty just a normal thing that people were using yeah I mean you know it's like uh I think it was 1990 it became illegal it was legal before that oh yeah you'd go to the doctor and get a prescription for it oh wow you know that was another thing the guys had a problem with they would take so much of it they would ramp their system I think they stressed their system their hearts out I don't know if anybody ever really died from just steroids but if you had the steroids or the Somas and the perks and the alcohol and the coke okay you're gonna create a fire you know yeah so for me you know up until the 90s I was always street legal I mean if I had a bottle of deca or a bottle of test on me it was a prescription from the doctor and it was legal oh so the doctors used to prescribe it oh God yes my levels checked everything wow to make sure I didn't right you were able to use it as safely as possible yeah because when you turn 30 that's the peak of your biological clock and then from that point on it's down oh you know so I'm gonna hold you up I'm 43 man you're on the way down man so there's a bunch of good HRT doctors around hormone replacement doctors that can hook you up I know I've thought about that I don't want to lose my hair though that's the scary part you know you won't lose your hair you don't think maybe I'll start looking into that yeah but anyway back long story short about 1990 and before then everybody I knew because I knew a lot of baseball players I knew a whole lot of football players I knew a lot of hockey players all professional guys they all use steroids [Music] there was only one guy I actually knew that didn't use him that was Bob Backlund you know Bob Backlund yeah he was a champion before I came along and okay red-haired I've heard of him yeah so anyway but everybody I knew dabbled in it and even if they said they didn't they did believe me and so at the end of the day when it became illegal we kept joking up you know because we were out cheering biceps like this that wouldn't get fixed and muscle tears everywhere your thumb gets broken and the Philadelphia Spectrum at one o'clock you go to Russell Madison Square Garden that night you don't want 10 weeks it's got to be healed in six weeks yeah so we just never really stopped and then Vince McMahon was on his you know major role with this company doing great in the federal government targeted him you know so we had to clean things up well well yeah eventually they targeted him and they drugged the poster boy in he almost gonna go for events let's get Hogan and so we had a a rough go of it for a few years with the federal government Vince wants trial and all the stuff they said he did he didn't do you know he didn't distribute it he didn't sell it yeah you know I mean you just he did it on your own I'm not going to get it from my boss yeah so that that's what they're trying to paint him in the corner it wasn't true and they tried to get me to testify otherwise wow you know which I said I would and then when I got on the witness day I told the truth and made a quick exit and didn't go back to New York for five years really oh yeah because that's where the feds were because that's where events they're trying to prosecute him out of Brooklyn wow so when I went to work for Ted Turner I couldn't even wrestle anywhere in New York for five years so they thought you were gonna rat on him yeah and you just said he didn't do it well I became a government witness wow because to avoid prosecution you know because they were they were going to get somebody and they were going for events and then if they weren't going for events they pulled me aside and actually told me what was going to happen to me if I didn't say this I went I didn't know that no problem no problem brother you got it so when I got on the uh Litton stand there in Brooklyn um I had a weird jet waiting to the airport airport I had Alex isaacman one of my attorneys that handled Larry Flynn the Larry Flint trial and another attorney Henry Holmes with me and when I got off that witness stand I didn't even go sit in the courtroom I went out the side door yeah got in the car I went to Tito airport and didn't come back for five years until the three three prosecutors uh Charlie Rose or either Charlie Rose of Sean would say one of them got busted with a bunch of kilos of coke and then the other one died of cancer I can't remember who was who but the third guy that had the FBI flag him and I became good friends oh really yeah so once that was over then I went back to New York yeah you know but yeah it was it was a it was a crazy run they were just trying to Target Vincent trying to you know do what the government always does to people you know oh yeah and he just basically didn't do anything they said he did and he was not that guy yeah did you ever get to meet Michael Jackson yes yeah I was asked to get off a Disney bus because of him no way why because what happened well they have these little little buses they'll Park tourists around on it uh at Disney yeah oh yeah like little trolleys is what you look like and but not the carts that are hooked together it actually looks like a little mini bus a little red trolley okay and so all of a sudden um I was sitting there with my family uh my first wife and my two kids watching the fireworks at Disney and all of a sudden security guards come and go well you need to scoot down you need to move the far side of the cart and move the far side of the cart and then Michael Jackson came in and uh he's by himself he's by himself with a with a couple security guards and he came over he goes I'm very sorry about them making you move and I said it's okay brother not a big deal man it's all cool I guess you know it was him oh yeah yeah and so I really didn't talk to him other than that say it was cool that's the only time I've met him was when they made us move down and get out of his way you know I don't think they want us to look at looking at him or anything but he came down and apologize oh he did yeah did he look like a little or did he seem like kind of not I did what did he seem like I don't know I was just sitting down he just he looks like he does on TV to me you know he had the black hat on and uh wow he's all covered up and had the glove this thing glued on because he was like I mean it was that must have been interesting for you to see yeah right my daughter Brooke was flipping yeah she was like seven or eight years old I can't remember but yeah but that's the only time I've ever met him he just was real polite but the security guards are Pricks yeah but I understand why they had to do it I get it yeah yeah he's probably paying him a lot yeah plus say he didn't want his picture taken and didn't want to be asked for autographs so I get it yeah and what about Michael Landon do you ever meet him no I didn't why would you bring that up I love Michael Landon so do I yeah really a little joke oh dude he was my favorite Highway to Heaven even that show Little House on the Prairie I love Michael Landon I was more of a bonanza guy I respect that yeah you seem like a little more Bonanza but um yeah I love Michael Landon man that's cool there was just something about I just yeah I don't know he played like that father like the hero you know he was like I mean you probably looked at him the way we looked at you you know it was like man that guy not really I was looking more like a Haas oh yeah yeah maybe not but that's that's great but yeah Hulk it's nice to meet you man and it's an honor and thank you so much for just being a great Entertainer all these years man well I'm glad you're a fan I had no idea oh yeah man I have no idea we needed you dude we I don't even know our TV we would balance the on the back and we would hold each other's eyes open like don't you miss this boy and we would miss it dude sometimes but sometimes we wouldn't man when Gene okerlin would be on there God and we were ready boy we would weird tuxedo we didn't have tuxedos but we had like these like we would cut us black sweatshirts with like the white shirt on remember 10 like we were the guys you know yeah he was my guy Gino and I I brought him from Minnesota with me yeah because I was in Minnesota and met him there the Baja and then when I went back to uh New York when they wanted me to come back and do this crazy International thing with Vince Jr I brought Mean Gene with me he's my guy yeah he seemed like a cool guy to have around yeah and was he just a little bitty guy yeah he was a little bit when I moved to Minnesota I was single I had an apartment behind the med center where the Mall of America's there was a place called The Met Center there and there were the visaya apartments behind there and that's where all the Northwest stewardess lives right oh yeah I mean Gene came over one time and he was married he wouldn't go home he stayed in my apartment for like a year and a half and said dude aren't you ever gonna go home he wouldn't leave he just stayed there and lived with me I said okay fine whatever you know he just wouldn't go home he's just interviewing stewardesses hey Claire you're headed to work today he was brutal man that's fun did you see Prince over there in town yes God yes yeah I used to go down and play at a bar called The Caboose um there was another bar that they was at the bar he played at all the time yeah downtown Minnesota okay Minneapolis and then I played at boys in the river all the time there's a band called fragile there Bonkers is a place where you see uh are you familiar with Minnesota yeah some we used to go was that bar place we went to bonkers Boyd's on the river I can't remember Burnsville Bowl any of these places I mean I'm talking in the 80s okay but they had real pimps I'm at my first real pimp in Minnesota yeah oh no doubt yeah but right on Hennepin Avenue where Moby Dicks was there was a bar called The Caboose and I used to always go in there you know after I wrestled or whatever since I was single I didn't have anything to do so I just go down there and drink beer and play guitar all night with all these bands and you know I was fresh off planes so I could still play yeah you know like my fingers hadn't been broken and screwed up and so many times so I could still play pretty well so I'd go down there and I always go into Princess Club you know First Avenue there and the first day I went in there he walked on stage and started playing wow you know the very first time I saw it walked in the place and so you know that got me coming back a lot yeah you know and I only saw him two more times there but uh he would come in there and just play like for three hours because it was his Club yeah and we just sit there and listen to him and it was it was amazing to watch him you know I met him one time said hello to him it was just a brief passing he goes yeah I'm a wrestling fan so thank you man cool yeah I just never sat and talked with him or anything hmm pretty magnificent though just even see him you know yeah it was cool man he was cool but you know I just uh really dug his music man oh yeah man yo yeah he could do it you could do it man thank you for all the music you put out in the world you know it's all good Brothers we're not done yet no no yeah yeah and you're not I mean it didn't mean to make it seem like that but thank you still here for a reason I just haven't figured it out yet well we're glad you are and uh thanks for all you've done so far man oh thank you very cool it's been awesome to witness and to be a fan of thank you brother very cool feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be Cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones [Music]

Channel: Theo Von

Views: 1,952,656

Keywords: Theo Von, This Past Weekend, TPW, comedy, podcast, comedian, interview, talk show, stand-up, stand-up comedy, hulk hogan

Id: 4V9MFTUEEfM

Length: 108min 59sec (6539 seconds)

Published: Tue Jul 25 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/Bigdeacenergy]

When Theo has other comedians on, it's funny don't get me wrong. But I love when he has interesting guests from all walks of life, has a great interview, and throws in some little one liners here and there. Interesting what Hogan was saying about his brother being killed by a MC club then says he actually died of an overdose, was a very interesting moment for sure

[u/Wet_FriedChicken]

This episode was awesome fuck the haters! And in case you didn’t notice…. The episode guest was “Hulk Hogan” not “Terry Bollea” so of course he talked about wrestling the whole time. I don’t think he was being narcissistic, I think if you feel that way you’re insecure. Theo is clearly a massive fan and Hogan was just leaning into it.

[u/Kekarotto]

I'll take this over comedians talking about what comedy means to them for the literally 1,000,000th time. Hogan made it about him because he could tell Theo was a genuine fan and had a lot of cool stories. Too many people judging him for the drama from years ago now.

[u/matarbis]

I’d rather listen to this if it were Will Sasso impersonating HH for two hours.

[u/advisoryexcellence]

I didn't know what to expect, but this was a great conversation.

Thanks for sharing!

Gang.

[u/VeggieTrails]

Theo going from Michael Jackson to asking about Michael Landon at the end was so random, I had to listen to that part again to make sure I didn't miss something. Made me LOL.

[u/albin04dalord]

WULL

[u/TigerUppercut08]

The Baja

[u/mitchellfuck]

I love how he got him to crack and laugh and not just push off the jokes