(upbeat music) - It's a brand new day in Montana. We're gonna meet a gentleman right now with a bunch of Hudson's
called the Hornets' Nest. Then we have an appointment
to meet a gentleman with a 122 Volvo wagon, dear to my heart. And then a guy with an unusual Oldsmobile. I thought it was a 442
but it's actually an F85, that he's had for a long, long time. So, wish us luck. (upbeat music) That is such a pretty car. (upbeat music) One of the leads we got, was this gentleman named Stu Coleman came over to me gave me his card, and said the Hornets' Nest in there, "You gotta come out and
see me in Livingston." Well, here we are on
the last day of our trip and we're in Livingston. And thank you for inviting us here. - You bet. - So, you live in paradise here. I mean,
- Well. - This is amazing. I mean snow-capped mountains over here, and Hudson's over here. This is perfect, perfect environment. - [Stu] This is a nice valley. - So I see, a Lincoln,
a couple Studebaker's, a Ramblers, a Jeepster, a Buick Revere. What do you do here? - Orphans. I like the orphans in the
late 40's and early 50's. So Packard, and Hudson,
Studebaker, Nash, the Jeeps. - Well, show us what
you're all about here. - Well I call myself an amateur restorer. I can do my best at it, but I usually get about a number three at them. - So this is a lifelong passion? - It is, I started as a teenager
working at a gas station and I just never got the oil and gas out of my veins I guess. (upbeat music) This is a 1950 Willis Kaiser Jeepster. Then about 1968, they reconfigured it. - Wow! - This is a 1970. And they bought the little Buick V6. - Now this is one of the
prettiest pick up trucks I've ever seen. Look like a car in the front. It's actually like an early
El Camino type look I guess. So how about your less nice vehicles? The ones that are... - I have those too. - I know you do. (upbeat music) This look at this. This here is a two-door hard top Rambler with bucket seats and a
console and a floor shifter. - [Stu] By 1965, and they called it a 44H. - 44H, yeah. - Which doesn't mean a
440 cubic inch engine. It was a 232, straight
six, had an automatic that I think they bought it from Chrysler, but they called it a Flight-O-Matic. I got a call one time in Wyoming. She said, "I have a car you need." And I said, "Well, I
really don't need anymore." But she said, "I see
you're a Rambler person. "Would $100 be too much?" And I said, "No, I will
be down to get it." - [Host] Wow, it's a solid car? - [Stu] Solid car, running car. - Gee. Are your cars just like
occasionally for sale? If somebody's watching this-- - Yeah, I decided that, project cars will go first. - Okay. - And I've sold this car, for example, it's going to Spokane. It's a 1939 Jeep Hudson,
which was called a 112, which was a wheelbase. - [Host] Hudson, that
these are just here for, just decoration? - They are, and this was a 112 Deluxe, and so you got the emblems with it. - Is somebody gonna
restore that or hot rod it, or what are they gonna do? - No, he would like to restore it. And I've done some of the chroming on it. - [Host] Oh yeah, nice front bumper. So here's your Studebaker lineup. - This is a 1949 and it
also will have to go. - [Host] Oh, it's gonna go? - So.
- Still original engine? - [Stu] It is, it's a flathead six. - [Host] And so, what would you want for something like this? - [Stu] Probably 1600. - [Host] 1600 bucks? Does it run? - I had the carburetor rebuilt. I have to put it on and
start it on a separate tank. I don't wanna start it up with, on the gasoline in the tank. - Man, that's a good body. - [Stu] It is, and I have a
few pieces in the back too, to go with it. - [Host] That's a real fair price. And what an attractive pickup too. - [Stu] And they had
nice lines didn't they? '49 to '53 was this style. - [Host] If you think
about the Fords and Chevy's of the period, this is a,
almost a bearish custom look. A nice (soft whooshing)
straight, Studebaker emblem. This is a straight truck. So these had, (loud banging) dual wall. - They did. - So that means if you drop
something heavy in here like a drive shaft, if you bang it, it won't bang the outside. There's two walls to the bed. - They also had a metal floor on the bed which other makes and
models were still using wood with skid plates. - Is a Studebaker truck
when they're restored, a good value compared to other brands? - Yeah I think so, especially this model because of its lines. - Of the cars that you
said you wanted to sell, this is the one that's got my attention. 1600 bucks, you could probably
get this engine running, or you could pull it out and put a later model drive train in. But for very little money invested, and some labor, maybe you've got a buddy or something that can help ya. This could be a driving vehicle, either with the original drive train, or with a street rod drive
train for not a lot of money. I mean, you could leave
this drive train in there and probably have this thing running for 3000 dollars. Including the cost of the vehicle. Or for less than 10,000
put a late model V8 in. This is one solid Montana truck. Okay, so next to it we
have a two-door wagon. - [Stu] In '59, they just
made a two-door wagon, so that's somewhat unique. - [Host] Did they ever make
a two-door wagon after that, or all fours? - No, then in '60 they
made them four doors. So this is a parts car
next to it for this one. - [Host] So if you have a
two-door, you have a '59? - [Stu] Yes. - [Host] If you have
anything other than a '59, you don't have a two-door. That's gotta be a rare car, wow. Is this a complete car, engine? - [Stu] Yes, but not extremely powerful. Flathead, six-cylinder. - Yep. Three speed on a column. - So, this is a donor car. And it has a V8 standard
shift with overdrive. So, these components will go in this one. - [Host] What year is this? - This is a '60. - [Host] Okay. - And they look alike
unless you study the grill. - [Host] Oh, horizontal and vertical. - [Stu] You see the little side grills under the parking lights,
they're also different. - [Host] Yep. (upbeat music) - [Host] Is this a local car? It looks to be very solid. - [Stu] Yeah, it's a Ryegate Montana, which is still dry country. - '56? - [Stu] It's a '56, and... - [Host] Wow look at the paint,
the body paint color still on the floor. - [Stu] Has a little
rust, they put the battery in the passenger compartment, and so the battery acid ate
a little bit of that up. If somebody buys this,
I've got an engine for it. It's a 1973 460, with a
C6 automatic in the shed. - [Host] So you got four hubcaps in here. This seems to be a very complete car. A broken piece of glass here, other than that this is pretty solid. - And I cannibalized a '57 Lincoln, and a lot of those parts
would go with it too. And the pieces that are missing,
I already have re-plated. They're both chrome and gold. - [Host] Oh, wow yeah. - [Stu] The premier side
pieces, the Lincoln side pieces, hood ornament, trunk ornament. - [Host] So with a 460, that'd be great. - It'd be a nice cruiser. - [Host] It would be. - And with a C6. - [Host] Yep, so what is this going for? - [Stu] Well if they just wanted the car, I was gonna ask 2200. - [Host] Uh huh. - [Stu] If they wanted the 460 and the C6 transmission with it, I'd add another 1000, and the chroming would go with it. (upbeat music) - I know the Studebaker
truck, but an earlier model? - It's a 1939 and they did the
same thing that Hudson did. They took a four-door and cut it off, and they only made the Coupe Express. '37, '38, to '39, a little
over a 1000 each year, so it's probably the most
desirable car on the lot, - Wow.
- money wise. I've got it up for sale. - [Host] So look at this. - [Stu] Very art-deco. - [Host] Yeah, see the
fenders already begin in the pickup bed sides and then blend into the fender itself. - [Stu] And the same thing
here, look at this curvature. - [Host] Oh, yeah. Tell me about the condition of
this, '39 it's 80 years old? - [Stu] Have redone the engine
and redone the transmission. The transmission is a four speed
with overdrive on the floor and the engine is from a
'53 Studebaker staked body and it has all been redone. A lot of the trim has
also been chromed on it. The center strip, the hood
ornament, all this has been done. The tie down for the
spare tire's been done. But again, it's a project,
and I'll just never get to it. - [Host] Well your projects
seem to be reasonably priced. What would you ask for this one? - [Stu] I'm at about 14,000 now. - [Host] This is a pretty rare one. - [Stu] Very rare. - This looks to be a hot
rod, just because I look at the steering wheel from here. - It is, and it's a keeper. It's a 1934 Hudson Terraplane. (tarp crumbling) - [Host] Oh wow. Oh the nailhead, all right. - [Stu] It's a 425 nailhead. - [Host] A nailhead, for
viewers who don't know what we're talking about. If you look at the valve covers on this, they're almost straight up and down, they're almost vertical. So the valves went up and down like this, and the valves resembled nails, so they call it a Nailhead engine. Buick built these starting
in the early '50s, probably until the
mid-60's or so I imagine, and they had various cubic inch versions. This is 425, I think, is it?
- 425. - Yeah. These were what Tommy Ivo
used to run in his dragster, four of these things. - [Stu] Yeah, remember that, four engines, one on each wheel. - Oh yeah. So and it's got a
hydromatic or something in? - [Stu] It's got a Turbo
400, and both the engine and the transmission have been rebuilt. - So, what an unusual body style to have the fenders continue
beyond the body like that. - [Stu] Nice lines. - [Host] Yeah, very nice. - [Stu] It's sitting on a Chevy S10 frame. I had to shorten the frame but the width is a half inch different
than the Terraplane. - [Host] Very, it's a nice design, boy. Was it because it's yellow
body, it was either a hot rod or a taxi cab I guess, right? - I don't know whether that
was original colors or not. Colors were pretty reserved back then. - I would say, yeah. - And this one, I like to say is complete. - [Host] Whoa. Very nice. - You know how you start on these projects and you get a little bit overwhelmed. And This started as a ranch truck. He must've herded buffalo with it, because it was pretty banged up, and it was a long wheel base, so I cut a foot out of the frame, and cut a foot out of the box, and it has a Chevy 350 with a 350 Turbo. - [Host] So is this the
length of a short wheel base? - [Stu] Yes. - That's a sweet one. So, it's all original on the outside with a later model drive train. - Yes. - [Host] All right, so
here we have another Jeep. - [Stu] We do, this is a flat nose 1948. And I'm in the process of modifying it. The interesting thing in this,
open the door and look in. (door creaking) It's got four shift rods, and one is a three speed, one is the in and out four wheel drive, the other one is high and low range, and then the fourth one, is a worn overdrive that fits on the back of the transmission. And the transmission's all been rebuilt, and it's bolded to a Buick V6. - Tell me why this is
called a flat radiator, flat grill, flat front, whatever you-- - Well, if you noticed,
it looks very much like the early Jeeps that
came out of World War II, and they were all flat nose, and then if you remember
the 1950 Willis Jeepster, it was pointed. - [Host] Okay, got it. So this is a '49 that's a pretty old one. - '49, '50 were flat nosed,
and then '51 were pointed with five bars, '52 they
only went to three bars, that's an easy way to tell them. - Wow. - We think gold plating
is all new, 1941 Hudson. - Is that the same piece of metal? This is new paint, new chrome, man, this car's looking good. And so here we have a Ness, this is one of my favorite body styles. - [Stu] Oh, the zapped ups. - [Host] Oh, I love it. This is a two door. - It is. - Oh man, this is such a pretty car. One of the most perfect designs. Think about 1953 cars,
what they looked like. Chevy's, Fords, Dodges,
they were all like upfront, there was a big vertical nose on there, and look at the swoop on this thing, I mean, very European. - This is a 1948, and the Hornet came in in 1951. Looks like a lead sledge. - [Host] It does, I mean two-toned paint. Bring that camera over here. Look at this. I mean, that didn't happen
until probably the '80s or '90s, they had rear windshields. - It's one of those cars, you
either love them or hate them. - [Host] A Valiant. Nobody restores these, but everybody remembers them. Well we've just seen a bunch
of amazing orphan cars, cars that are no longer built. Now, let's go see a car
that's still built today, but we're gonna see an early version of it with interesting family history. (upbeat music) In driving down some of
these neighborhood roads, I came across an Oldsmobile in a shed. I said man it looks like a 442. But it's not a 442, I knocked on the door and talked to the guy. So we're gonna go back there and meet him. And it's an F85, and I
didn't think they made F85's as new as this car, but, W30 or something but, in fact you can see it, oh took it out of the
garage, that's unfortunate. That thing's been in
the shed for 10 years. (engine running) We were filming the other day at a place, Marty's place, which is
just around the corner, and I went by and saw this Oldsmobile under the shed here. So, I rode by it once, I rode by it twice, and the next day I went over
and knocked on the door, and I met Don. Thanks for being here today.
- You bet. - Thanks for meeting us this afternoon. - You bet. - And you started telling
me about how this car, how long you've had it, and how long it's been sitting here, and whatever, so, first of
all, what kind of car is this? - It's an Oldsmobile F85, 1970. - [Host] Okay '70, but it
doesn't say F85 anywhere does it? - [Don] They usually have
F85's on my dash, there is. - [Host] Oh is there. - [Don] I mean that's
just a full bench seat, full frame doors. They made very few of them. - [Host] I remember these
rally stripes here rally`-- - [Don] Yeah, yeah they got
some all black, classic, what not they're not
painted gray, doors off, turbo postie, all factory, all the bells and whistles really. - Is it 350? - Yeah it's a high
output, 350, a rocket 350. - Four barrel? - Yep, four barrel.
- Exhaust. - Ram air, what not. - [Host] Did you have
to paint it or anything? - [Don] Nope, it's original,
it's original paint job, Sebring yellow, it's all
original number matching, all that good stuff. The only thing I've done to it, basically is tinted the windows. - [Host] And so how many
of these were built, do you have any idea? - [Don] There are 1,257 F85's
and only 187 with the post. And which I have a post, you know. - [Host] Are all the F85's a rally 350? - Not all F85's no. There is a cheaper version of it. - Aha. But yeah, not too many have
posts and full frame doors. - Now I noticed you've got
a collection of these things across your dashboard. - I bought a couple cars of mine, you bet. (chuckling) - [Host] Are those all Hot Wheels? - [Don] All Hot Wheels, yeah,
all, those are Hot Wheels. - [Host] So there's your car
right there, the yellow one. - [Don] You bet, yeah a
couple of mine there, you bet. - [Host] Look at that. - [Don] Yeah I mean, they're
all not actually mine but... - [Host] Oh there's a
miniature version, right there. (laughing) So what are your intentions for it? The other day I saw it in the garage, now I see you had it outside,
are you gonna do with it? - [Don] Yeah, I'm gonna,
I gotta fix the front end, I've got some kind of alignment issue. I bought some new tires
the last time I drove it. But, yeah I'm gonna try
to do the front end, figure that out, so I
can take it to my house, and hopefully someday get
a garage and restore it. - So that's a metal frame with a glass. - With a fiberglass. - Yeah isn't that something, man. Wonder how many miles are on it. It says 61. So that'd be 161.
- Yeah, 161 yep. - 161, okay. I haven't seen one of
these rally 350's in, 25 years at least. - I haven't seen one
here in town at all, so. So, so far I think I'm the
only one here with one. - [Host] The Hagerty valuation guide, which is available online. In number four condition,
this car and exactly this car, the Rally 350 F85 Cutlass, in number four condition, which is fair is 13,800 bucks. - Yeah. - That sounds about right, right? If it were in good condition, 21 grand. Excellent is 31 grand. - [Don] Right. - [Host] And concourse is 42,600. Thanks, thanks for-- - You bet.
- Meeting us here today. - Not a problem.
- Is a great car. And it's the only one we've
found in this series like this. - Awesome, awesome. Well I appreciate you guys coming out, makes me feel pretty good. (car engine rumbles) - So, just like that. You leave an interesting
Oldsmobile Cutlass, and you drive up the street, to an interesting Volvo 122 Station Wagon. (upbeat music) Two years ago I passed this house, and saw two Volvo 122's, right back here. I said, I gotta remember that because someday I gotta come back here with a film crew and wanna get this on tape. So I came here the other day, and talked to Deano Seppe. Deano's not here right
now, he's on his way. Be here in a half hour. But we have Rosie Seppe,
and she's got a story about this car too. So Rosie, thanks for letting
us in the yard early. - Thank you. - Before hubby gets here. Now, you have stories about this car, you went on your honeymoon in this car? - [Rosie] We got married in this car. We were married in Big Sky. So this is what we got to roam around in. - So, did cans hang off the back bumper driving away from the--
- Yeah, it was awesome. And then we used go through Jackson Hole and West Yellowstone, and we'd go hiking and
camping and take the Volvo and wake up the bison, and yeah, it was... - [Host] Did it ever let you down? - No, never. - [Host] Wow. - Yeah, so I begged for this
car, he said I could have it. So I'm like, waiting someday
I'll get it fixed a little bit. - [Host] So this is gonna
be a restoration candidate. - I want to. But my husband said
not yet it's too rusty, but I really want it. - [Host] Now, it'll get
better as time goes on. - Yeah, yeah. Enough lawn ornaments, and lots of good memories. - So it's not often that we get to have a husband and a wife, is gonna be like the Dating Game. We're gonna compare your answers. What do you, this is a '66,
what year did you buy it? - [Deano] In '89, so I've had it 30 years. - [Host] Wow. Bought it from Ridge Wellmer, yep. - [Host] And where? - [Deano] In the high,
he just had it parked at the high school parking lot. - Right here in town? - Yeah, right in Bozeman High, yep. - What'd you pay for it? - Actually, my friend found
it, and he wanted to buy it, so I lent him 600 bucks, and
he only could pay me 100, so I got it for 500. (laughing) - Oh. - I knew he probably wouldn't pay me, so yeah, I mean he's like, "I don't." So I'll keep it. - And was your daily driver? - A lot, I had a '72
VW, so pancake engine, that was my main thing, but once, matter of fact, I don't know if Rose told
you when we were dating, she lived in Worland, Wyoming, and we met at a lake in Yellowstone park. I show up driving in this, and she's like, "Is this gonna make it?" I'm like, "It's gonna make it, "it goes everywhere." (laughing) And that was it. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's, I've had that on
and off as my daily driver. So I've had better cars, and
drive it for the summer, yeah. - So, I mean this has been parked here, Rosie thinks for 18 years? - [Deano] I probably had
it running 6, 8 years ago, and then I think we took the carbs out and put it in those P1800, cause I had, I think I had a Weber in that, and he wanted the original dual FU's. Yeah, and he wanted the original carbs, so we swapped them out, and so we've been doing parts
and stuff on it, and yeah. - [Host] So, might you restore this? - Maybe, I got quarter panels for it, - Do you?
- and stuff in the shed. Yeah, I've had a bunch of
them that were parts cars and stuff and I pulled, so I got good quarter panels. I got a full on rebuilt engine
in that shed right there, a B20, that's all ready to
go, I could drop in here, so. - Can you pop the hood? - Yep. (car door slamming) - The cords running. - [Deano] Yep, yep. Oh yeah, I don't think I told you. I bought an '68 144, and
I drove it down to Panama, the country of Panama and back. And, I had to leave it at
a junkyard in Albuquerque when the valve main seal went out. - Driving on the way back? - On the way back, made it all
the way back to Albuquerque. And when I dropped it off at the junkyard, the guy gave me bus money, but he let me keep the carbs. So. (laughing) Those might even be the carbs I put back on here from my 144. - Oh man, so that's a V18.
- Yeah. - [Host] Okay, yeah wow. Do these, I mean somebody told me you could get air conditioning in these. That's probably a dealer option. - [Deano] Yeah, my P1800 had
air conditioning on that '65, had one of those cool kings
or whatever they were called, and I actually still
have that in the shed. We pulled it out, the guy didn't want it. - So yeah, you need fenders-- - Off road, yeah, that was
my original repair job. It's still there, but yeah-- - I see that. These little brackets here. - Yeah, I just made those. It was a, yeah on a dirt
road up by Flathead Lake, the guy said. He lived there after Continental Motors. I think it was bought in Great Falls. - Oh, that's where this car came to do? - Yeah, it was a Monta-- yeah, so it was a Volvo dealer back then. - So, if you were to restore this, I mean, you just put it on jack stands, gut it to the max, and... - [Deano] Right, put it
all back together, yeah. Drop the engine in and, it wouldn't take much. - You got a big anniversary
coming up, or something? I think this might be a nice gift. - Yeah, exactly, yeah that's, yeah, yeah. - Wow. - And so. - What are these things worth? - I don't know. A guy came through, this was years ago, but got went up in
Canada, absolutely mint, totally mint, mid-60s,
same thing, 122 Wagon, and he got it for like 4500 dollars, and it was crazy. It was absolutely beautiful, And we talked for hours or whatever. But. - [Host] They're at
least in the teens now. - Yeah. - Like 15,000 ish kind of.
- Are they, yeah? - Yeah, oh yeah. - Yeah I mean you can get
all the parts for them. There's guys in North Carolina
or something like that, that reproduce a lot,
at least for the P1800s and, any of the engine stuff. - [Host] So, did you camp
out in the back of this? - [Deano] Oh, yeah, all the time. - It's a parts shed as well, right. - Yeah, yeah my P1800 fix. The P1800s have the gas
lid on the fin, thing, and again that was a barn find for me and, but it was so rusted, the tank was just like
just holes all over it. So that was from a sedan, a 122 sedan, and I put that
in the back of my P1800, but the guy I sold it to didn't like that you had to pop the trunk to gas it up. - So this has been painted from here down. - Yeah, exactly. - [Host] Was that before you got it? - [Deano] Yeah, I bought
it just like this. And one cool thing is
there's history of Volvo's, and on the back page, it has a wood a rack with wood slats in it, and I have that. - You have it? - I have, it came with
this wagon, is in my shed. Cause if it ever went, I keep that. - And it mounts on the-- - Holds right to the rain gutters, yeah, and it's so cool. My buddy's like, "Oh someone
made that after Mark." And I'm like look at that is on his table. - Isn't that something, man. All right well, Deano,
thanks for coming home from work early man. - [Deano] Yeah, thanks for looking. - [Host] We landed in
Montana on Monday afternoon, and here it is Thursday. We found an amazing bunch of cars, and we found out that cars don't
really rust bad in Montana. Oh my God, the cars we've
found that are 60 years old, and still have no rust on
them is pretty amazing. If you think of the car
hobby as being this big ball in the middle, and most of that ball would be consumed with people that enjoy Chevy's,
and Fords, and Mopar's, and common cars like that. But there are these subcategories, shooting off from there,
people that specialize in cars that are less common, but just as wonderful. Yesterday we met Matt
with the power wagons, and today we meet Stu with
his orphan car collection of Hudson's, Studebaker's, and Ramblers. Those are his specialties. And we're learning more
about cars that are ignored. Just an amazing little subset
of the automotive culture that I hope to meet more of
these guys like Stu and Matt, because every time I meet these guys, I learn a little bit more. I hope you meet guys like
Stu and Matt on your travels. Happy hunting. (upbeat music) Ladies and gentlemen, we arrived in Montana on Monday. Little bit cool. By Tuesday, short sleeve shirts, sunblock, we're getting sunburned. Yesterday, a perfect
day, probably 65 degrees. Here we are on June 20th, one day before the summer solstice. One day before the longest
sunlight of the year, June 20th, 2019, and we're
in a winter storm warning. One to six inches expected of snow. Who would've thought. But we're out there for
you looking for old cars.
