How TUF is the ASUS 4070Ti OC?

hello everybody this is Chris with overclockers Club it's time for some more fun with Nvidia [Music] so Nvidia dropped the RTX 4090 first then the RTX 4080 in a couple of different flavors but now we've got the 4070 TI this particular model is from Asus part of their tough gaming graphics card series and there's a little bit of a story behind the 4070 and how we got here but before we go down that path let's take a look at the box here and see what all is going on so when you get outside of your Founders edition cards directly from Nvidia your different manufacturers launch their versions and they each try to separate themselves from the other manufacturers with their own way of delivering their version of the card and that includes cool things like software that can be used to control overclocking fan profiles stuff like that Aesthetics you've got your RGB effects which are the Asus Aura sync that's cool you can make that all work with other Asus products of course durability we've got long life capacitors dual ball fan bearings things like that cooling each manufacturer tries to come up with the best cooling solution of course you want to remove the heat but the trick is to do it without making a lot of noise so we'll have to check that out key features here these are all things that are pretty standard now on your 40 series gpus from Nvidia let's see some QR codes to scan for some other goodies and again there's a whole slew of interesting stuff here that goes along with the 40 series graphics cards from Nvidia all right so now we can get it out of the box this is the box that came out of the box we just looked at and of course there's the card we've got one of the special uh two into one 16 pin special connector that I guess I can just go ahead and open that up now this one has two ends that you supply power through of course that end goes to the graphics card uh the 4070 series then uses to the 4080 will have three ends on it and the 4090 has four sort of looks like Medusa and this is a little velcro strap for part of your cable management it's got the tough gaming logo on there and there's one other thing down in the bottom this little device is actually made to support your graphics card I think this pulls out yeah so you can adjust it tighten this down and it holds the end of your graphics card up because these things are kind of bulky and heavy so just gives you a little extra support all right now we can get the card out looks like there's some more goodies down here in the bottom the card is sealed bags let me get that open and the card is out of the bag now it still has all these protective plastic pieces on that's why it looks a little extra shiny and glossy there so I'll get those peeled off here in a minute we got three front fans that blow the air across that large heat sink and looks like the back has the same glossy protective coating I'll have to get that peeled off you can see this section here on the end is open to allow air to pass completely through and then on the business end here we've got one two three display ports and two hdmis there sort of centered up now this sort of looks like a three slot card I mean it's definitely two two and a half I guess really that's pretty much a third slot that'll take up we'll have to see what that looks like on the motherboard the other thing I notice here is it's considerably lighter than uh the 4080 series all right well I got all of the protective plastic removed from the graphics card this is the little packet of information that comes with it uh there's some sort of a little card here almost looks like a little trading card it's got some information about the graphics card there are I guess what tough gaming is uh there's a warranty pamphlet a quick start guide which looks like there's a ton of info in it but it's really pretty simple it's just in multiple languages so that's why there's so much but it's really just very basic how to plug the card in that kind of stuff there graphics card holder that's this little guy right here this sort of shows you how to use it and it supports the graphics card uh in a case where your motherboard is vertical your cases or your graphics card is sort of cantilevered out there in the end of it can get a little heavy and you don't want it basically flopping around so you use this little device here to uh support the end of the card okay certificate of reliability basically telling you what the components uh what standards the components meet and then there's this little guy here I actually had to look up and see what this is I guess it's like a cell phone holder something like that just getting a little code there and it'll show you how it uh how it works okay so of the cards that are currently out there we have a sample of each one we have a 40 90 a 4080 this is also a 4080 this is from MSI and then we have the one we're looking at today the 4070 TI uh and rest assured there will be other varieties and variations out there but this is pretty much what's out there now these are the founders edition cards from Nvidia they look virtually identical in fact the only way you can tell them apart is if you look at what's printed on them the 4080 and the 4090 otherwise physically on the exterior they are identical now when I first started uh comparing these two cards I thought the 4090 may have felt a little heavier I think some of that is just the psychology of thinking since it's the bigger beefier card than it should be heavier well I got a scale here and I weighed them just to see if there is a difference or if it's within the margin of uh margin of error actually let me set this okay there's the tear and we're using ounces so right now this is coming in about 76.74 ounces the 40 90. and the 4080 is coming in at about 75 ounces so it's just slightly less an ounce ounce and a half less so I don't know if you can really detect that by picking the two cards up but the 4090 in this particular case does weigh slightly more than the 4080. if anyone is interested and while we're at it let's just weigh this other 40 80. it's actually uh heavier yeah coming in at 83. 3 ounces and the 40 70. now this one is definitely lighter as you would expect it to be this one's coming in at 43 almost 43.5 ounces so it is definitely the lightest of the cards that I currently have now so does that really matter that one card is heavier than the other not really but it is interesting so if we look at the difference here between these are the aftermarket cards and again this is from Asus this one is from MSI and this is the 4080 this is the 40 70 ti so you can see the 4080 is significantly larger than the 4070. I would be interesting to have on Asus card in the 4080 flavor to see if it physically is much different I suspect it isn't my guess is it's pretty much the same envelope as that 4080. but the 470 here when we look at it a little more closely now that I got all the stickers and stuff off of it uh what I notice here and it's easy to overlook there's this tiny little switch right here and it says performance mode and quiet mode and there's a little tiny slider switch that you can toggle One Direction or the other so we'll have to play around with that we've got the large opening here on the back to pass air through so this back fan here is moving air through the card and right out the back of the card whereas these two when they push the air against the heat sink of course it's coming out the top and the bottom and a little bit out the end of the card there which is the same thing that this 4080 does this one has a similar approach there's a an exhaust area here on the back for that last fan and looking at the top of the card your power connector is here and I'll talk about the importance of making sure that your power plug is fully engaged in the socket the back of the card we've got this heavy metal chassis this Frame here this exoskeleton that helps stiffen the card and keep it from flexing at all so that's sort of a nice feature uh looking at the business end here so we've got a display port at the top and two boy that's in there pretty good two HDMI ports and then two more display ports so you've got a total of three display ports and two HDMI ports it says stainless steel 304 so that's some pretty tough stuff and something else interesting there's actually a latitude and a longitude right there printed on it if you type that in and look it up it's somewhere in Taiwan I'm not sure if that's the parent company uh Asus or it looks like it's pegatron maybe a related company I think pegatron and Asus were related at one point and down here it says cg0008 and I'm not real sure what that is I feel like I should know what that is but I don't and here's what it looks like with the fans removed exposing the heat sink you can see they've got some little isolation pads there so that when these are up against the heat sink there's no vibration or anything like that and we've got the power for the fans and the RGB effects that come together but this is a this is actually a very sturdy piece and at first I thought it was plastic but this is actually and yeah this is actually a casting so that's impressive and here's what the card looks like here's your heat sink we've got three heat pipes on the right and we've actually got six heat pipes that come out of the uh the base on this side so we're really maximizing the cooling capacity there are also a couple of stiffening ribs that join the two sections of the heat sinks so that we get some additional rigidity there so we don't have any flexure of the heat sinks and on the back of the card now these are exposed whether the fans are on there or not but these are it looks like three positions uh if you're going to use an external bracket to support the card depending upon what case you're using and in addition to these three holes here these appear to be M3s there are two more tapped holes back here that are also M3 so I'm not sure exactly what those are for but they are there so you've probably already heard the story behind the naming and and how we got to a 4070 or 4070 ti so there was the 4090 and then the 4080 and it came out in a couple of different versions initially and then there was an unlaunch and they pulled one of them back and uh I think that's how we have the 40 70 now so you know usually you have your different price points versus performance so that people have options if you don't have all the money to drop on a 40 90 well then maybe a 4080 is more in your ballpark if not you've got a 40 70. so the question then becomes well what's the performance difference where do you get the most bang for the buck and that is what we will try to help determine and I tell you there's plenty of opinion and discussion about the 4080 on launched so you can read up on that if you haven't already and form your own opinion but anyway so the card is plugged into the motherboard into the pcie slot you can see there's a little red LED right there and that's reminding you that your power connector here is not plugged in so if you see that red LED that should alert you to the connector and that's what I want to talk about next so here's the connector and it's very important that this is plugged in properly and you want to avoid bending this area here any more than absolutely necessary you want to try to keep from stressing that but when you plug it in you're looking for two things you're looking for a complete plug engagement and you're looking to hear and you can feel a slight click when this is fully engaged so you see this little tab right here will lock into position and you can hear a very very slight click right there it's not very loud but you can hear it and you can feel it a little bit but what you're looking for is this area right in here there should be no Gap at all no daylight it should be flush between the plug fully engaged with the socket here so again no gap down here at all and you may have noticed the little red little red LED down here went out as soon as we got the power connector plugged in and now we're ready to Power It Up you can see the RGB effects here and along here and as far as the fans are concerned there's uh there isn't any RGB stuff going on there now you may have noticed or you may not have noticed the fans here all spin different directions well we have we have counterclockwise we have clockwise and we have counterclockwise over here and the reason that is done sometimes when you have three fans all spinning at the same speed in the same direction you can get some weird resonating frequencies going on and some weird fan noise so this is one way to help combat that when you have one fan spinning in a different direction that can help reduce the resonating frequencies and of course after you get it powered up you want to go in and uh into your GeForce experience and make sure you've got the latest driver for your graphics card and then when I have my GeForce Experience open I hit the alt Z on the keyboard to bring up uh the overlay and then I go into the performance mode enable the automatic tuning and let it do its thing and then I have tech power up GPU Z also opened up so that I can see what's going on just sort of verify that everything is working properly okay so now we'll take a look at the sound from the card normally you know your card's not going to be out in the open like this it's going to be in a case so when your fans are running probably really won't hear them unless you've got them cranked all the way up so right now of course they're not running so let's look at the decibel meter now there's about three feet between the card and the decibel meter here so let me shut my mouth for a moment we're right around 35 decibels for the background noise now we'll go ahead and just crank the fans up to 50 percent so there's 50 right oops right there so that's pretty quiet I'm standing a little bit back from the fans and I can barely hear them so let's see what the decibel meter shows so two two and a half decibels at fifty percent let's go ahead and run it up to 75. there's 74. 75 all right okay so 75 I can hear them again cards right out in the open a decibel meter shows 46 47 now let's go ahead and push it down 100 percent and normally you're not going to be operating your fans at full blast like this but oops went the wrong way okay 100. let them spool up and now let's see so right at about 55 decibels so that's about a 20 to 20 decibel swing from zero RPM up to 100 percent so like I said normally you know uh your card's going to be in a case and depending upon what case you're using and how many fans you've got in the case and what speed you run them uh the sound generated by this card of course I don't think would be much of a factor okay so let's say normally you're gaming your card builds up some heat the fans kick on then what happens well right now the way the card is set up uh I believe the temperature that the fans should kick on uh when it when it hits 55 degrees Celsius so what I'll do is I'll run the MSI combustor which will stress the graphics cards sort of simulate game playing and I'll look and see what temperature the fans come on and then I'll look to see what temperature is maintained so the temperature should rise a little bit above that 55 but how much so let's just see all right so first thing we'll do is uh get the Benchmark running so as soon as we hit 55 degrees here we're at 38 there's 55. we should see the fans kick on and right there they go so what I'll do is monitor the temperature so we're at 60 61. and let me bring up let me bring up my monitoring software here I lose my mouse there it is okay Hardware info what I want to do now is look at the fan speed oh here it is it was hiding from me okay so right now we're at 65c and speed we're about 13 about 1400 RPMs on the fans we're holding about 65 66 degrees Celsius let's just watch this for a little bit okay I've been running a little while now and we're really holding uh we're holding it about 68 67 68 degrees Celsius fan RPMs have pretty much stabilized around 15 to 1600 RPMs and now we'll take a look at Power Usage Now this little board here this is the PCAT which stands for power capture and analysis tool this is provided by Nvidia for testing you can see the little display there shows in real time the wattage that is being used by the card as well as the voltage so the power comes in from the power supply goes to this monitoring car then it goes right back out to your graphics card so we can monitor in real time what sort of power is used so what that means is I can actually bring up the software interface this is the PCAT interface you can see right now at idle we're hardly using anything you know less than 20 watts 15 18 Watts and what I'll do is I'll go ahead and put the stress test on here using the MSI combustor let me fire this up and then we can take a look at the power being used so we already hit 55 degrees the fans have kicked on you can see the spike here where we jumped up where the stress test started let me reset the numbers here we can look at the average power used so we've peaked so far we've peaked at 297 Watts it may bump a little higher than that yeah there just went to 299 so we may hit a little over 300 but the average power we're right at about 270 9 278 somewhere in that range it may average out back to around 275. after we let it run for a little while and the PCAT actually has a special Riser there you can see that raises the card off the board considerably so I had to sort of rig up something to support the card while I'm using the PCAT module so I've been running for a while we have peaked just a tad over 300 watts but again our average is around 278. and we continue to hold at about 68 degrees Celsius and the fans are just absolutely whisper quiet so how does the 4070 TI compared to the 3070 TI in terms of power usage well let's find out and now the 3070 TI is running the same test and it looks like our average is about 288 Watts we peaked out at 316. so we're just a just a shade above where the 40 70 TI is in terms of power usage and after I kill the stress test we're idling at about the same power usage between the 3070 TI and the 4070 TI now one thing I noticed in comparing the 3070 TI to the 4070 TI uh bump into the camera here the fan curve now I didn't touch the stock fan curve on the 3070 TI and it's holding it about 77 to 78 degrees C so we're about eight or nine degrees warmer using the stock frame curve now I can override it and really kick the fan speed up and bring the temperature down but then the card starts to get a little noisy and to maintain the same temperature so if I want to hold this card at the same 67 68 degrees Celsius that I held the 4070 TI to I've got to crank the fans up manually I've got to push them up to 70 percent so they're a little louder you can hear them it's not terrible but there's definitely a difference between the two cards as far as keeping them at the same temperature but that is not a surprise because these are two very different cards and this little switch right here whoops right there it's upside down but you can see where it says performance and then quiet performance mode in quiet mode so I've run this card in both modes to see if I could tell a difference and it seems to hold the same temperatures the fan RPMs seem to be the same the starting temperature seems to be the same I can't really tell that much difference so if it's doing something uh I can't see what it is now as far as the clock speeds in the Nvidia performance tuner here I'm able to see all the way up to 2820 28 35 . so is the overclocking card worth the extra money do you really see a difference it's hard to say uh it may translate into a few more frames per second is it worth the extra money maybe maybe not if you can get a good deal on it I would say sure why not but I don't know that you'll see a huge difference I guess it depends on what game you're playing so the takeaway is you have a much more powerful card a much more capable card that uses less energy than the previous version now as part of the review I always like to show off whatever components I'm reviewing in a system build if I can so I will go ahead and get this card installed in a case so you can see what it looks like for anyone interested the power supply we're using is the mpg a1000g this has a thousand Watts which should be plenty of horsepower to drive a card like this and the cooler on this system from MSI is the mag core liquid C280 and you can see it's sort of hiding up there in the top of the case the motherboard I'm using for this system build is the z790 carbon Wi-Fi from MSI it is a it is a ddr5 motherboard and the CPU is a 13900k from Intel and for the system build the case is the secure 500p from MSI there you can see a little bit of the RGB effects going on from the 4070 TI and looking inside you can see how the graphics card looks in a system build I've got a little bit of RGB there it's a little easier to see when you get down at an angle now a couple of things to point out uh you really want to keep from stressing your power cable now this is the power cable that came with the power supply but you want to avoid bending this cable any more than necessary and you want to avoid putting any stress on your connector and socket you really want to avoid that so you need to make sure you have a case that has the right depth for a card like this with a cable that's coming out in this type of an orientation and this case is fine we're nowhere near hitting the cable but that's a consideration you need to make when you're selecting a case or you're putting this into a pre-existing case either way the second thing is a card like this is capable of dumping a lot of heat into your case you need to make sure you have a case that has really good airflow you want to put as many fans in there as you can keep them rolling to keep the air moving through your case we've got three 120s in the front in this particular case and a couple up there on the radiator a couple of 140s and another 120 in the rear but you really can't have too much airflow and you really need to keep that heat uh pushed out of your case as best you can so remember that little uh support that I showed at the beginning of the review this is uh supposed to hold up the end of your graphics card when it's in your case well I was supposed to show that in the system build and I forgot so oops but I've already got the system torn down so uh yeah sorry about that here's one that comes with the RTX 4080 this is the Supreme X from MSI it's the same idea it's meant to support the end of the graphics card now this graphics card is considerably heavier than this one so you can probably get by without using this but it's a good idea and something else I figured out if you loosen this all the way up this pulls out and on the end is a little baby screwdriver okay it is Benchmark time I ran some synthetic benchmarks and some gaming benchmarks so let's take a look okay let me zoom in a little here so you can actually see the numbers alrighty okay so I compared this card the 4070 TI to the latest cards have been released to the RTX 4090 the 4080 Supreme X the 4080 these two here are both Founders edition cards here's the 4070 TI I threw in my older 3070 TI and the pricing here of course tends to vary depending upon uh what kind of mood Amazon and Newegg or in but these are sort of General prices that I've seen out there so you can sort of compare the specifications between the Cards and of course the 4090 here is the King of the Hill with its specifications uh but the 4070 TI for me what I like to compare it to is the previous generation so I like to compare it to the 3070 TI and you can see it does have some considerable advantages in terms of clock speed of course we've got a different processor altogether we've got considerably more transistors and we've got more memory okay so the way I did this I've got the synthetic benchmarks on the top half the gaming benchmarks are on the bottom the monitor I used is a viotech 3440x1440 uh 34 inch monitor 144 Hertz um in testing what I would do is I would set everything to the highest settings in each game or each benchmark and whether that was Ultra super ultra insane whatever the mode is I would keep it the same across each one of the tests so for me one of the things I wanted to sort of check out was how this card sort of compared to the 3070 TI the previous generation I mean we already know against the 4090 and the 4080 of course it's going to be a significant chunk lower but when you look at the previous generation 3070 TI and the 4070 TI and again this is the founders Edition you can see the differences here on the synthetic benchmarks for blender there's quite a jump and most of these 3D Mark with dlss off and on of course on the 3070 TI I could only run it in dlss2 because DLS S3 does not function so this one here you know you can't really compare those numbers but when we get down here to the VR Mark you can see the numbers aren't a whole lot different here until we get down to the Blue Room there's a little bit of a bump Borderlands 3 you can see there's a pretty good jump on your frame rates F1 22 the average frames per second of course I couldn't really run that with the dlss on so I had to run it with dlss off and again can't really compare those numbers down here cyberpunk 2077 sort of the same thing here we've got significant jump in the frame rates now when you compare the 4070 TI again to the 4080 the other cards in the 4080 series are four should say 4000 series when you compare to the 4080s and the 40 90. uh you can see again we have some big increases in the frame rates but again as far as the 40 70 performance wise in gaming are you going to be able to tell that much difference between 128 and 289 frames per second for example on f122 probably not 128 frames per second is screaming fast the same thing here with the other games Borderlands you know yeah 193 is awesome but 102 is nothing to uh nothing to get concerned about as far as am I going to be able to play the game or not so the 4070 TI scales in line with what you would expect across the other cards in the 40 series it'll be interesting to see and I'm sure we'll see it here before long what the 40 60 and the 4050 cards look like I haven't seen any specific release dates yet but I'm sure we'll see them here before long in 2023 okay quick last minute edit there are a couple of benchmarks here I actually forgot to run so one of them is the octane bench the other is the v-ray GPU RTX so I ran those on each one of the cards and here are the results right here so the v-ray GPU RTX you can see the 4070 TI comes in at 3059 a pretty good bump up above the 3070 TI and you can see again the scales right up the ladder to the 4090 at the top at 55.87 same thing here with octane bench the 4070 TI were at 735 which is close to double not quite the 30 70 TI and again we scale right on up to the top number here at 1250 on the 40 90. all right so you know overall I think this is a nice card it does everything that it's supposed to do I think for most people you're going to be able to bang through most of your games at you know High settings and have a good experience now there's a lot of discussion and debate on the pricing is it fair is it overpriced uh you know as the bang for the buck really there and you know anytime something new comes out doesn't matter if it's a new Corvette new Mustang new flat panel TV new iPhone uh there's a price to pay to get that latest and greatest if you just absolutely have to have it uh that's just the way it is so you have to make that decision you know do you have the money to Shell out on a card like this do you wait and see if something uh something else comes out at a better price point or if there's a sale that's really a choice you have to make so if a 40 90 or a 4080 are a little too spicy for you right now you do have another option which is the 4070. so I would give this the overclockers club Gold Award this is Chris with overclockers Club thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe

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Keywords: 4070, nvidia gpu, asus tuf gpu

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Length: 36min 2sec (2162 seconds)

Published: Mon Feb 06 2023