How to talk felony evasion down to a verbal warning

and if that is true and if there's any visual separation the next answer in most cases is go as fast as you possibly can when you're in the habit of driving fast you have to sort of develop protocols and if you begin a drive with sort of a schema of what you're gonna do in the event that something goes sideways it makes you at least have a better chance of making a good decision in the moment and that's that's how we've always approached cannon ball and everything else is to think all right if this happens then we do that and so I was doing this Lux rally event with Tom Park a good friend of mine in my Ferrari 430 scuderia and we've been sustaining some pretty solid speeds generally in a pack and that's usually a fairly safe way to drive we're in Utah and we'd gone through Monument Valley and you know afterwards you kind of go through really long stretches of nothing and then you'll find some little town and then long stretches of nothing and you go through some little town and I guess we were going through a little town and me and a guy named Chris and his BMW m6 were passing you know in long open spaces we were on the walkie-talkie you staying in touch and just kind of trying to make good time to get to our next destination most of us had gotten most of the good speed out of our system at this point we'd all hit insanely high speeds I think the day before on our detour through Mexico I did one hundred and ninety miles an hour in the 430 scud and so I was impressed with the car our backs were killing us we were really ready for Las Vegas and a good massage but we're going through this town in Utah I think it's called Kanab and me and Chris are together I think I'm in front and I guess we went through this small town and we passed a couple of tractor trailers that were moving obviously considerably slower than we were and at we passed him on a double yellow was wide open you could see for miles in any direction but I guess perpendicular was parked at some gas station like donut shop whatever there was a cop we get into this area where there were a couple trucks and and we passed them and I think one of the other vehicles might have passed in a more aggressive way and there was a two-lane segment that blended into one and he might have got a tire over the double yellow and I think there was an officer that was waiting at that exact point that must have been trying to catch people doing that happen to see that whatever happened you know we're still cruising and next thing I know ed tells me hey uh I see blue lights between me and that cop there was Chris in the m6 and the Porsche 911 Turbo and this guy in the 911 had been driving it very very hard I think he ended the rally with five different windshield cracks all the paint off the front of his car as tires balled I mean he got everything that he possibly could out of this car and he had also been pulled over with me in Texas and so we both gotten into a warning there and so I was like you know I'm in front generally that means you're the scapegoat in this circumstance but maybe he's just gonna pull over one of the cars that's behind me and so I kept moving but this is where you kind of have to fall back on these ideas of what am I gonna do if there's a cop and and in general the first thing that you do is evaluate is there any plausible deniability that I have in this moment that I might not be the person that this cop is looking for and if that is true and if there's any visual separation the next answer in most cases is go as fast as you possibly can so ed says hey I think they're coming up for me what should I do should I just drop off over here real quick and I said you know that's the kind of moment where you don't hesitate you either commit to going a different way and seeing what happens or you could say well I'll for sure to go to jail or maybe not I just said yes do it without thinking just as a reflex and so I dart off into a trailer park on the side of this road in Utah and make a couple of quick turns down and then I find myself dead ended into a cul-de-sac which wouldn't be that big of a deal because I was a good bit off the road but of course this bright white BMW m6 with extremely apparent rally stickers immediately follows me and while my gray 430 with you know some darker stickers may have gotten away with it seeing two cars jet off was not gonna let that happen finally were stopped and we're not gonna be able to go any further fortunately Tom said Edie open the deck lid and we can at least claim that the cars were overheating because the m6 absolutely was overheating periodically on this trip and so we open it up we start checking the oil pretending like we needed to stop and before too terribly long a Jeep Wrangler cop pulls up right behind us and he is immediately very very mad and of course he jumps into the you you know let's not pretend like you don't know why I pulled over here and I'm like why did you pull over here we're here to you know cool our cars down and we start talking and he's like no you got what you guys just blew past me illegally pass on these trucks and I'm like well if you say so we're just trying to make good time and like any cop should he's trying to make me confess to some terribly illegal act of automotive negligence and I am resisting his prompting to do something like if that's what you're saying we did I'm not here to argue with you but trust me that we're not out here trying to break any speed records today and so he keeps on and and by this time there was a cop we passed probably 20 miles earlier that had pulled over another car and we hadn't passed him at too much speed but I guess there had been some police scanner activity and he had decided to pull over as well so we've got another jurisdictions cop there as well and everybody's kind of crowding around and so Tom still in the car fortunately able to snap a few pictures and me and Chris the BMW driver are out of the cars already and we're talking to the cops and he's immediately pretty hostile and asking us what we're doing and fortunately since I've been involved with the Cannonball Memorial Run that is an immediate and obvious and very very helpful first kind of line of defense like we're here to raise money for the families of fallen officers talk about the charity talk about the drives we do talk about working with the Attorney General to bring awareness to this cause and everything that we've done and and that is fortunately a terrific icebreaker so I always keep those stickers on my cars for these types of events and anything you can do they're all the way down to police benevolence fund cards anything that you can do is a great way to start to say look we're not here to be hostile I'll to law enforcement we're here to make sure that everybody's out here being as safe as possible but yes we love cars and we're here trying to have fun and so that starts to break the ice but obviously still you know we're here trying to convince him that we were not trying to run away from him because that becomes a much higher offense and you know I will say there have been a lot of circumstances in my driving career like this where I have seen that there was enough separation to justify trying to get a few turns away and then hope nobody knows where we went I have never seen a cop known it was for me and then no holds barred run as fast as I can to try to purposefully evade a cop there are plenty of people who have done that we turned down most of those stories here at VIN wiki because that's not the type of narrative that we're trying to put forth but good but you know in this kind of hazy medium between whether or not they were after you and whether or not you might be able to find a place they aren't looking that's where I kind of draw the line and so that's obviously what we've done here but that could still very well be construed as evasion and that is a very terrible crime to be convicted of and so I'm trying to at least deflect all logic and questioning away from that conclusion and we continue to talk and it turns out he spends most of his time this cop on like a search-and-rescue team and we talk about how beautiful Utah is and all the stuff that we'd seen and all the driving roads that we'd seen or just how privileged they must be to be able to enjoy these roads on a daily basis we talk about the parts of this country and parts of the state that he is patrolling and what that means and ask him for his stories what's the last thing you did what's the last you know thing you had to search or rescue for and as long as you keep them talking as we've said before that works really well there's plenty of people who say shut your mouth and don't talk to cops but that's exactly how you get the worst version of whatever they think you just did if you want to get out of it if you want to get it down the best thing to do is keep talking and so we're talking to them and you know talking about the cars showing them around saying oh do you want to see that and first of all they want they want to go back they want to look at our license check for warrants and all the things that cops usually do make sure there's insurance in place and all that unfortunately all that was copacetic nothing to worry about in those terms but we still need them to continue to de-escalate there perception of what this situation is so at this point he's obviously accused us of going I think a hundred hundred and ten ish past these trucks but obviously he didn't have his radar on so that's his visual estimate and that he is permitted to visually estimate speed so whether or not it could be disproven in court I didn't want to have to get ticket clinic to go back to another state on my behalf later after this rally to make up for it and so we're continuing to talk and a third jurisdiction I don't know we had like county state trooper Sheriff's Department everybody's there and obviously they've gotten a lot of calls about cars with these types of stickers driving through their respective jurisdictions and so we're talking and the the higher rank you find someone in most cases the more lenient they're going to be particularly if they can kind of flex on the lower jurisdiction people so that's actually what really helped us in Texas was that the sheriff showed up and so he obviously doesn't like the state troopers trying to pass out tickets in his jurisdiction and so he started kind of on our behalf he's a car guy loved what we were doing loved the cars and he starts kind of advocating for this guy to just let us go and I think that's really what carried the day eventually he felt like since he had to clear his bhaskar every time he noticed a speed that he had actually forgotten exactly what my speed was by the time he got to the third car which you know he does need to honestly be able to remember in order to give me the ticket and so I don't know if it was him finally feeling lenient or if that was true regardless I'm eternally grateful to that fine officer in the state of Texas and my hope was that we could reach a similarly lenient conclusion with these guys in Utah and so the more people show up the more people were kind of talking to and explaining all the great times that we'd had not speed related on this rally just enjoying the scenery and join the camaraderie enjoying just the beautiful roads amongst friends Edie gets out of the car is talking casually to these guys and I'm thinking to myself they're about 20 feet away I'm trying to listen and look in the rear view while staying in the passenger seat I'm thinking you know am I going to be driving this the Scuderia or you know getting bail or what am I going to be doing here what's happening the cop didn't say anything at all about us turning right and going down another Street he didn't say anything about the faster vehicles and I don't know what he said but I'm sitting there sweating bullets for 20 minutes in the passenger seat while Edie is taking them from from their body language I could tell their composure had changed from hostile to curious to kind of listening to being very receptive and the next thing I know I can see that the cop you know Ed's telling jokes and using hand gestures and I see the cop laughing I'm thinking I don't know what that guy is being told but I want to know that so I can say that too eventually that we find out that the rest of the rally crew has come through we had been kind of pretty well out in front and they had managed to all get pulled over collectively at a gas station about a mile up the road and so they tell us well all your friends are waiting for you there just a little the road which was reassuring except for I don't know exactly what they just got caught doing it may have been worse than what we were trying to do and so if that's the case then it may reduce you know their willingness to be flexible with us finally he comes back and he's like I can't believe I'm letting y'all off so easy and I'm like well trust me I can't either and we will slow down we'd be as respectful as we possibly can and trust us we're eternally grateful and so he ends up not even writing it up just hands our license and insurance cards back and tells us to slow down and go on our merry way and we continue on the road and there are cops about every mile for the next I don't know rest of the state and we continue to just go as close to the speed limit as our speedometers will allow us to define and we make it to the gas station where the rest of people were stopped and kind of mosey our way on out of it but I don't know that we made any friends with these Utah law enforcement officers but at the very least I think we we got it we got away with as much as we possibly could whether you're packing for cannonball are just going about your day it's important to just carry what you actually need the ridge has a line of wallets and bags that help you to 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Keywords: Ed Bolian, VINwiki, Car Stories, attempted evasion, speeding, ticket, police, lux rally, rally, cross country, ferrari, 430 scuderia, italian, utah, pulled over, search and rescue, arrested, ticket clinic, grigio silverstone, travel, destination, aria, las vegas, small town, tourism, interview, storytelling

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Length: 13min 29sec (809 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 03 2019