WE'RE HERE! WE'RE HERE WITH CHILDREN'S
AUTHOR PAUL McCARTNEY, AUTHOR OF "HEY, GRANDUDE." NOW, I DON'T OFTEN GET IN ANY
WAY STAR STRUCK WITH A GUEST. PEOPLE ASK ME, OH, A POLITICIAN
COMES ON, DO YOU EVER -- NO, I DON'T CARE. BECAUSE I KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY
DO. AUTHORS. WHEN I HAVE A MUSICIAN ON,
ESPECIALLY ONE I ADMIRE, I CAN GET A LITTLE STAR STRUCK BECAUSE
WHAT MUSICIANS DO, YOU, JON, THE BAND, IT'S MYSTERIOUS TO ME. THERE'S SOME MAGIC IN IT WHERE
WE'RE ABLE TO REACH INSIDE OUR HEARTS AND MINDS AND SOULS AND
YOU CHANGE SOMETHING, THAT'S REAL MAGIC. >> I AGREE. >> Stephen: YOU AGREE. YEAH. >> Stephen: NOW I CAN'T
REMEMBER MY QUESTION BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY --
( LAUGHTER ) >> WHAT IT WAS WAS --
>> Stephen: NO, THIS IS IT -- THIS IS IT --
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I'M TRYING NOT TO --
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) SO IN SOME WAYS IT'S A LITTLE
BIT DIFFICULT TO TALK TO PAUL McCARTNEY BECAUSE YOU'RE PAUL
McCARTNEY, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE JUST A LOVELY GUY. YOU'RE JUST A GUY, RIGHT? >> YOU KNOW, THE THING IS I AM
STILL THAT LITTLE KID THAT GREW UP IN LIVERPOOL. OKAY, I GOT REALLY FAMOUS, BUT
IN HERE, I'M STILL THAT LITTLE KID. SO I'M AMAZED AT, LIKE, THE
AUDIENCE'S REACTION AND STUFF BECAUSE IT'S, LIKE, I STILL
DON'T BELIEVE IT. ( LAUGHTER )
YOU KNOW, AND THE WAY I THINK, JUST LIKE WHEN I'M AT HOME, I'M
JUST SLOBBING OUT, WATCHING TELEVISION, LIKE ANYONE. SO IT'S KIND OF HIM AND ME. ME IS ME, THAT WAS ALWAYS IN
THIS BODY AND THE BODY'S JUST GROWN UP. >> Stephen: THE GUY BEHIND THE
EYEBALLS. >> YEAH. AND THEN HIM IS THAT FAMOUS GUY. >> Stephen: WOW. HE'S VERY FAMOUS. ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I'VE HEARD. I'VE HEARD HE'S VERY FAMOUS. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW
DO YOU THEN DEAL WITH OTHER PEOPLE, SORT OF LIKE THE EMOTION
AND THE IMPORTANCE THEY BRING TO YOU THAT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW
WHAT YOU MEAN TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE SOME THINGS WILL MEAN
VERY SPECIFIC THINGS TO OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEY SEE YOU THROUGH
A PARTICULAR SOPPING. FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST THING I
THINK OF IS "BAND ON THE RUN" WHICH HAS AN NORMS EMOTIONAL
RESONANCE FOR ME BECAUSE IN 1974 IT WAS THE SONG OVER THE SUMMER
AND IN SOME WAYS THAT WAS LIKE THE LAST HAPPY SUMMER OF ME
BECAUSE MY FATHER AND TWO BROTHERS DIED IN SEPTEMBER OF
1974, SO THAT SONG IS EMBLEMATIC FOR AN ENTIRE INNOCENT TIME FOR
ME, AND I KNOW THAT YOU REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT
THAT EMOTIONALLY MEANS FOR ME, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO KNOWING THAT
LIVES INSIDE OF OTHER PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE YOU? HOW DO YOU DEAL WHEN A FAN COMES
UP? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH ME RIGHT
NOW TELLING YOU THIS? ( LAUGHTER )
>> IT'S NOT EASY, STEPHEN. >> Stephen: I'M SERIOUS, I CAN
IMAGINE IT'S NOT EASY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE WHAT PEOPLE WANT
YOU TO BE. >> NO. I WAS A FAN OF LOTS OF PEOPLE,
SO I KIND OF GET IT. I'M ALSO VERY HAPPY THAT SONGS
THAT I JUST WROTE ORIGINALLY JUST TO MAKE SOME MONEY --
( LAUGHTER ) NO, THAT'S HOW PEOPLE START. YOU START OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO PAY THE BILLS. BUT THE FACT THAT THESE SONGS
THEN GET INTO PEOPLE'S HEADS AND THEY HAVE THIS MEANING, I MEAN,
THAT'S THE BIGGEST BONUS YOU CAN HAVE. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
IT'S TRUE. >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE
ANOTHER BREAK, BUT, PLEASE, STICK AROUND, WE'LL BE RIGHT
BACK...
