You may be seated. Hello, Your Honor.
This is the case of<i>
Scott v. Kahlon.</i> Thank you. You're welcome. Good day, everyone.
Mr. Scott, welcome back. How you doing? Now, you previously
appeared in this court
and it was determined that you now have
seven children
by four women. Yes, your Honor.
(CROWD BOOING) You're here today, Huh! denying you fathered
the defendant, Miss Kahlon's four-month-old daughter
Ezra, and today's
paternity results will clear your name. Yes, Your Honor. Now, Miss Kahlon, you claim
the plaintiff was excited when he found out
you were pregnant. M-hm. But then, only a few months
before you gave birth, Mr. Scott disappeared. M-hm. Number, everything. You argue that the only reason
he's denying your baby is because you've since
learned he was in
another relationship. Plenty of 'em, I've heard. JUDGE LAKE: The entire time
you were together. That's not true. I wasn't...
That's not true. Miss Kahlon, your counterclaim I wasn't in a relationship
when I was with her. to Mr. Scott's petition for paternity test is for
$2260 for childcare expenses and repayment of loans. Now Mr. Scott,
please share with the court how you ended up
in a relationship
with the defendant. Well, Your Honor,
to start off with, we met online, we chatted
for about three weeks,
I'd say, Three weeks. three weeks to a month,
something like that. So she came to visit me,
she came to my city,
she came to visit me. You know, we hung out,
we spent time, we had
a nice time that night. No big deal, you know.
It was nice, it was nice. She went to sleep.
I happened to go through
her phone... JUDGE LAKE: On the first night
you guys had a date? Yeah, well, the reason why
I went through your phone is because her phone... He had no reason
to got through my phone. Her phone didn't ring all day
so I got suspicious! My daughter, my kids? So you felt like, since her
phone didn't ring... Yeah, something was fishy. something was up.
Maybe she had it
on silent, or... Something was fishy.
So she went to sleep and she
had a passcode on her phone so as the day goes on,
I'm looking out my peripheral
and how she did it, CRYSTAL: Nosy. so I got her password... JUDGE LAKE: (EXCLAIMING)
Oh, wow! Inspector Gadget! I had trust issues,
you know what I mean? I had trust issues due to
what happened to me in
my previous relationships... CRYSTAL: Go figure! But we learned the last time
you were in court
that you were married and you were sleeping with
all different women! CRYSTAL: Uh huh. Thank you. I wasn't even married,
I was divorced. Right, right. MARCELL: Why you keep
talking about that?
I was divorced. Go ahead and continue. So I went through her phone
and prior to us
being together, conversating and conversing,
I see that she had other text messages
from other men. That's irrelevant. JUDGE LAKE: But you
weren't in a commited
relationship, right? Nope... No, not at that time.
(STAMMERING)
At the time that she... Upon of her arrival? (CROWD LAUGHING) No, see that's
why he's stuttering,
because he's lying. You don't even know!
Who am I married to,
who am I committed to... MARCELL: Upon her arrival,
we was together. I didn't have nothing to hide,
I didn't need to hide nothing. But then she also admitted
to me that she was
supposed to have a sexual encounter with
another dude but she said
he couldn't perform, (AUDIENCE WHOOPING) so that's when she
admitted to me... JUDGE LAKE: Okay.
So what you're saying
to me is... So it doesn't even make... Oh well. You discovered information
you really didn't wanna know, meaning that she had other
partners at the same time... Does he got proof of this?
Does he got proof? No. Yeah, I have proof.
My eyes! My eyes
is the proof right there! For real? At some point,
despite the text messages and the "I spy" and
everything else, you all were intimate,
because there is a
child in question. M-hm. Yes we were. It was good, too.
It was good. Wait, wait, wait.
Now I just need you
to give me the relevant facts. Uh huh. (LAUGHING) I don't need to know that. Yes, we were intimate. JUDGE LAKE:
So you were intimate. Yes, we were. You felt like she was intimate
with other people
during the same timeframe. Yes, exactly, yeah. No. So, now, Miss Kahlon,
I gotta come to you. What do you have to say
about his accusations? He is a liar...
I think he believes
his own lies. (MARCELL LAUGHING) For real. This is like, crazy. I don't know where he's
getting all this. So how did it go down
for you? Okay. So I met him
on the internet site,
a dating site. I didn't pursue him,
he pursued me, 'kay?
Let's get that straight. Yeah, I did get at her.
She was pretty, man! Thick white girl,
she was pretty. (CROWD LAUGHING) Mr. Scott! She was pretty. CRYSTAL: Okay.
So we're talking... Okay. She still is pretty! I never said she wasn't. It wasn't three weeks.
It was months, okay? Of course I pursued her. I didn't go and just jump off
and go see him. MARCELL: Yeah, you did. We was talking for months. We wasn't. It was like,
three weeks. Back and forth.
And, you know, I paid for
my trips to go out there. She did. He never paid for nothing. I paid, when we wasn't
at his "mother's house,"
we went to the motels. Yes, true. Never met nobody
in his family. Yes, I did get pregnant
the first time
I went out there. MARCELL: And the reason why
you didn't meet nobody is because I had my suspicions
from the first time! So you're saying, Miss Kahlon,
that you got pregnant
the very first time Yes. Yes. you visited him. (CROWD REACTING) The very first time... CRYSTAL: The very first time. We has sex a good
five times. For real,
don't get it twisted. We had sex a good five times
that night. (CROWD LAUGHING AND CHEERING) CRYSTAL: So don't let him
sit here and play the role. Yet another fact
I didn't need to know! I never said that.
I took you down, yeah, I did.
I took her down. JUDGE LAKE: Moving on! MARCELL: I took her down.
I took her down!
Yes, I did. And I put her to sleep. Mr. Scott! She went to sleep,
I went through her phone. Wait, now I'm starting
to believe this was part of
your scheme or plan to get to her phone! CRYSTAL: Obviously. Taking her down
so you could get to her phone. Now we established
previously that you had a wife, or ex-wife,
whatever you'd like to
admit to, during the time in which
you were sleeping
with that person as well as... This person, and that person. That's sad. That's crazy. There was only two girls.
Don't be adding other people. (CROWD CLAPPING) Don't add other people. And you're telling me
that you're the person
with the trust issues? I'm a very smart man.
You know, me,
I look for signs, and I seen the signs. That's what it was. Signs that he
knows from himself. If I call you at 12 o'clock
at night, not once, not twice,
not three, not four, and you don't answer
the phone? Something's wrong. Then somebody's sleeping! (CROWD LAUGHING) I ain't awake all night! You can't call me the next
day at 11:30 and say
I was sleeping. CRYSTAL: Asleep! So you mean to tell me you
were sleeping for 14 hours? I'm supposed to just jump
every time he calls? Yes. Yes. Oh. No. (CROWD BOOING) I don't think so. If I'mma call you,
yes you are. Wow. You call me any other time...
Any time you call me
I answer the phone. What was your proof?
What else do you have? Okay, I went through her
phone... We got that. There was pictures of
other men's male parts, 'kay? For real? Pictures of other male parts.
And she was like,
I'm fitting to go to Lancaster to visit a friend,
a family member... And she did it like that? Pictures of other male parts,
are you serious? The guy says, well... My kids would play with
my phone, Your Honor. There was nothing like that
in my phone. But there was pictures
of you all in lingerie
and all this stuff... CRYSTAL:
Lingerie? You got those too? (CROWD GROANING) MARCELL: Look, there
it is right there, Your Honor! CRYSTAL: That's not lingerie!
You call that lingerie? So, Mr. Scott, you submitted
this evidence to the court. Yeah. You was supposed to be my man! I was sending you something
to keep you happy in a long-distance relationship! I never received that picture! CRYSTAL: Are you serious? You didn't get that picture? MARCELL: I never received
that picture. CRYSTAL: That's one of
the first pictures
I sent you. Who takes pictures
in lingerie... I don't take pictures
like that, Your Honor,
come on now. Never. ...in positions that was
uncalled for... Never. No. ...inside Motel 6? No. Are you serious? JUDGE LAKE:
Inside of a motel? Yes, it was. And it was
a weekly Motel 6 cause they had the whole
entertainment system
inside the motel. (CROWD LAUGHING) Uh, uh, wait a minute! So you know that firsthand? Of course! Everybody knows
what the motel look like. You know, if you go in
to the motel for one day
you got the little bitty desk. Thank you. He knows... If you're in it for the whole
week, you got the whole...
She had Subway cups up there, Newports, she had
DVD players... I don't smoke Newports,
baby boy. Well, Marlboro Reds. JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Scott!
(BANGING GAVEL) (BOTH YELLING OVER EACH OTHER) JUDGE LAKE: Let's get
some order. You saying her motel room
had all of the
extended stay features. Yeah. (CROWD LAUGHING) JUDGE LAKE: So, Miss Kahlon,
were you in love
with Mr. Scott? Let me ask you something.
Were you in love with
Mr. Scott? I wouldn't say it was love. On the internet site
that I met him on, he wanted basically
the same things
I was looking for, you know? MARCELL: Of course. He said he was
family oriented. Of course I am.
I take care of
all of my kids, but... (STAMMERING) How am I gonna
have a family with a girl
that's already texting other dudes? If you
knew that you was feeling me
and you was committed to me, like, "Oh, I'm feeling him,
I'm not gonna
talk to these dudes." I would come down and
see him almost
every weekend. How is that not feeling you
or into our relationship? True. But at the same time,
there was other dudes. "I'm going to Lancaster
to visit my friend." Every time I went down there,
I never met nobody. And he says, "Oh, I can't
wait to see you
when you come back." "Oh, I miss you too."
Why? I'm not your friend. If I'm your dude,
I'm your man. Yeah, you are. JUDGE LAKE:
Let me get this
portion straight. Miss Kahlon, now, you're
in a sort-of relationship, Right. and you are coming
to see him regularly. You're investing
in the relationship, right? However, every time she comes,
you still in her phone. She only came, like,
maybe four times. About six. JUDGE LAKE: Okay. I don't remember six times.
I remember maybe
three or four times, cause the first time... JUDGE LAKE:
What I'm saying is you're looking at her phone
every time she
comes to visit you... Yes. From the
first time she came... You're noticing that there's
always still conversations
with other men that it seems like she's
in a relationship with. There was always something
about a dude.
(SMACKING HANDS) And then the first time it was
about a dude, the next time
it was about lingerie. Did you continue to be
intimate with her anyway, even after you
saw all of this? Yes, I did! So, Miss Kahlon,
you find out you're pregnant. Uh huh. You immediately know...
No, hold on. Prior to this... She didn't even know.
I told her she was pregnant. ...he told me, he said
"I bet you're pregnant." Yeah, I told her that. Like, jinxing me. Cause she's sick. She called me, saying
"You jinxed me." I said, well, you sick,
you throwin' up, come on,
you got kids, you know... I said come on,
you're pregnant. Never had no sickness
with any of my kids. If the baby's mine,
then why the baby don't
have my last name? It's the same thing. Because he wasn't there!
He disappeared! Why wasn't I there?
Because I had my reasons
and my doubts. Why am I going to ut you
on the birth certificate
if you weren't even there? All right. Give me
this information.
I need this testimony. Miss Kahlon, you said
you let him know
you're pregnant, and then what? He was happy. Yeah. He said, quote-unquote,
"Oh Mommy, we're going
to be a family." See, yeah,
that was the nickname. And did you wanna be
a family with him? I mean, it was was it was.
I wasn't sure if
that's what I wanted. What was it? He wanted me to move to... Wait, you said it was
what it was,
what was it? I mean, I'd just met him
not long before that,
you know. I was kinda wary about it
myself, you know. I'm not moving to no
Sacramento, man, that's
a weird city. You know,
who gets pregnant the first
time they go see somebody? JUDGE LAKE: Okay. I was like... I didn't know
if that's what I wanted. I told him that
plenty of times,
you know, "I don't know,
I don't know if
you're gonna be there." I don't wanna have a baby,
raise it, by myself. If the baby was mine,
how come the baby ain't
got my last name? The baby don't even
look like none of
my other kids. The baby don't...
You told me the baby
looks like you, Marcell! (STAMMERING) It's okay.
Can we just read the results? She about to call me
another name,
you see what I'm saying? (CROWD LAUGHING AND CLAPPING) I was? You know,
let's get to the results. Let's get to the results. CROWD: Aww. JUDGE LAKE: Aw.
We're going to get
to the results very shortly. But first I want to
get to your arbitration. Miss Kahlon, you're
countersuing the plaintiff for $2260 in baby expenses
and loans Mhm. You sent him money.
How much money
did you send him? All together, maybe
four or five hundred. (CHUCKLING) The money she sent you,
was it a loan? No! No, no, no!
Wasn't no loan. CRYSTAL: Yes, it was a loan. Why would I get a loan
from her? I mean,
I worked at the time. You act like I'm speaking
blasphemy. I just asked,
was it a loan? No, it was not a loan.
Not at all. JUDGE LAKE: Okay,
what was it? I said I needed it
and she gave it to me!
Every other day! Why should I be taking care
of somebody that obviously
couldn't take care of himself? Alright. Do you have
any receipts at all, I never said that. from what you sent him? Here you go. (CHUCKLING) Now, is this for the
loan or is this for
your baby expenses? Both. JUDGE LAKE: Both? I see here you have
receipts for the
money you sent, Make-up receipts. totalling $580,
baby expenses... Diapers, wipes, formula,
clothing. Sounds like everything you
need to take care
of a baby. You have the evidence
showing that you
wired him money to help him or
to loan it,
per your testimony. The problem is, you don't
have any written evidence
that shows that it was in fact a loan,
and that he agreed to
repay the money. This is just a little
fact going forward,
a legal tip. If you're gonna loan money,
get something in writing. (CROWD CLAPPING) Unfortunately, I cannot
award you that money
for those expenses. Are we ready for the results? BOTH: Yes. Jerome, if you could
hand me the envelope. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) Can I say something,
Your Honor, before
you read the results? Are you gonna
tell me what you're
hoping for? Um, I just pray and hope
for the good results. What are good results
for you? That she's my baby.
If that's my daughter,
I'm going to take care of her. If it's not, then
I wish her the best,
you know what I mean? I'll take care of
all my kids. I take care of all my kids.
It don't matter
how many I have, I take care of
them all. (CROWD LAUGHING) You about to get eight, y'all. Miss Kahlon,
do you have any doubts,
and what do you want? I got two jobs! I don't have no doubts.
I have no doubts. And what do you want? I want him to take care
of his responsibilities. MARCELL: Of course.
No problem. I didn't make her by myself. I'm not gonna raise her
by myself. You ain't.
You gotta change her
name, too. CROWD: Oh! You got to change her name. I hope she doesn't have to
spend her childhood listening to you all
bicker. CRYSTAL: For real. These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics, in the case of<i>
Scott v. Kahlon.</i> As it pertains to
four-month-old Ezra Edwards. Mr. Scott, you... Are not the father. (CROWD WHOOPING) I apologize. I can be
woman enough to apologize
and keep it moving. Whoo! I guess my assumptions
was right. You do
the best you can, though. (BOTH STUTTERING)
Baby deserves a father. Oh, I think you're
stuttering now. Something has finally
made him speechless! CRYSTAL: She don't
need a father. (CROWD CHEERING) JUDGE LAKE: So
what do you feel? You wanna know why
I'm so speechless? What do you feel? You want me to tell you
why I'm so speechless? I wanna know! Because this woman was
so confident, and she was
so persistent, to do everything that needed
to be done to see if
that was my baby, and it's not even my child. I could see the confidence
on your face. CRYSTAL: Yeah. Like, you really thought
he was indeed the father. Yeah! I mean, it's nothing. Do you have any idea... No, I know. I was only with
one other dude before him. He died, though.
He was shot. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that. And I just want to say to you,
if you indeed feel as if you
want to get a paternity test, a DNA test
done, it is possible
to still do that and confirm the paternity
of your child even though
this gentleman is deceased. JUDGE LAKE: Only you know. Right. Only you know who
you were with, but what this court
stands for
is making sure children are able to know
who their parents are, who they belong to,
who's responsible for them... How come she didn't notify
and tell me this stuff
about the other dude? Because I wasn't with you...
Marcell, you knew, you just
said you knew! You found text messages
and pictures of him! Yep, you right. Why didn't you call?
Why didn't you call? I did call him!
He denied it! I explained... What? Look, look, look.
I need to say
something to you before court
is adjourned, 'cause this has been decided.
The science has decided it. I'm almost afraid to ask.
You know, when you practice
law and you become a lawyer they always say, Uh oh. "Don't ask a question
you don't know the answer to." No, I don't want no kids. But as a judge, we must.
I'm not gonna see you
in this courtroom again, am I? CRYSTAL: You probably will. (LAUGHING) No...
No you won't.
"You probably will." No, you won't.
No you won't. You probably will. JUDGE LAKE:
All right. Thank you so much.
Appreciate. Thank you for the results. Thank you so much. Miss Kahlon,
the best of luck to you
and your child. Thank you. Court is adjourned. (CROWD APPLAUDING) I feel relieved about
what Judge Lake had to say,
you know? I'm glad I don't have to go on
with the rest of
my daughter's life dealing with him. To all the guys out there,
make sure if you meet
anybody online, you make sure you get they
background, they
references, social numbers before you
do anything with them, cause these type of things
won't happen to you. So make sure you
don't have to see yourself
in this building. Alright then. If you've got to come to
a paternity court, come.
They change lives. Ha!