Translator: Morgane Quilfen
Reviewer: Denise RQ Well, hello. So I'm going to start
with just asking you guys a really simple question that may take a little bit longer
than two seconds to answer. Have you ever personally
met your soul mate? (Audience) Yes. Ashley Clift-Jennings: I hear
some yeses, not reallys... (Laughter) Yeah, they're pretty hard
to come by, right? (Laughter) So now, think about what made
that person your soul mate. Was it the way they looked? Was it the career that they had? Was it the way
they connected with your soul? Was it the fact
they were also in the same religion? There is a million different reasons why we feel connected
to another person in that deep way. So, I grew up in a Christian environment, and I was dead-set
on finding my soul mate. So, I knew I wasn't going to find
this person in a bar, or at a club, and that this person had to have
really high character, had to have respect for women,
had to be good-looking, and had to love me for who I was,
because I'm kind of a unique character. So, I went along life,
went to an Ivy League school, played soccer, achieved whatever I could achieve
and grasp at at that moment, but one thing that always lingered is that I really wanted to find
this one thing, which was my soul mate. So, I'm like 24, 25 years old, and by this time
in the Christian community, it's like your eggs are probably
getting cobwebby at this point. (Laughter) Now, we think 25, that's not too old,
but back then, I felt old. So one night, I was browsing
on the Internet, and I'm really into
the Myers-Briggs personality test, so I was looking up, I wanted to find a guy
who was an INFJ male -- (Laughter) So, I just typed into Google,
"INFJ male," right? (Laughter) And there were two results, and one of them happened to be
my future spouse. (Laughter) So, I had reached out to him, we met up -- I happened to be doing
social work in Pasadena, he happened to be a software developer working for a start-up in Pasadena,
but living in Reno -- and we had this amazing connection,
we had this whirlwind courtship, and within six months,
to all of our families dismay, we were married. (Laughter) But it made sense! Our families, they got it. They saw us together, and they understood, "These two people are super-compatible, they have a tremendous amount
of respect for one another, and they literally
make each other better people." So, he was like the yin to my yang,
he was a software developer, super chill, relaxed,
goes at a slow pace, but a steady pace. And then, I was just crazy,
erratic, creative. And it just worked like lock and key,
just so, so, so seamless. And this went along for --
I moved to Reno, dropped out of grad school, moved to Reno,
started working in start-ups, and started doing start-uppy things
with my new husband. And every night, we would go out
to restaurants, or bars, just talk about ideas. It was like TED talks all the time. We just really enjoyed each other's minds. And we were soul mates, literally. And so, this went along,
we've been married now nine years, so this went along for a good while, and it felt like the most
peaceful time in my entire life. I felt like I had a home
inside this person's soul, and this person lived with me,
we worked together, oftentimes we did projects together,
we dreamed together, we bought a house together,
I helped him raise my step-kids together. And everything just seemed,
it seemed like I had won the lottery, like I could check that box off,
like "Found my soul mate." And so, you can imagine, one day, I was told something
that would change my life, I was told that my spouse was transgender. You could probably
hear a pin drop right now. And my response was interesting,
my first response was, "You gotta be fucking kidding me." (Laughter) My second response was, "OK, tell me more, you know,
like what does this mean for us? And what do you have to do to feel whole and to feel like
you feel good in your body?" So, this was about three years ago now,
and we are still married, and this took me through
this process of really researching, what does it mean to be transgender? For my spouse, it meant
that she was not comfortable in her male body, and that she needed
to medically transition. Now for me, if you or anybody out there
is thinking, "Shoot!" You're looking at your partner
right now and being like -- (Laughter) "Are you going to drop this bomb on me?" It's been an interesting journey, I would love to say -- I was always
very PC, and very open-minded, and very encouraging of her transition. She did give me the option, she said, "You know, if this ends
our relationship, I will not do this." I just had a tremendous amount of respect for how much she respected
our marriage and me, as a human. So, it's like I had
all this respect for her, and I wanted the best for her,
and I wanted her to be whole, and at the same time,
I couldn't put words to it, but I was feeling like somebody
was dying, you know? It was like somebody
that I knew was going away, and there was a new person coming in. And part of my struggle is really real, and it's really just
the natural progression of how one would feel
when their spouse transitions. And then, there's another part of it, which is more like
around 60% of my reaction, and that's what is known
as internalized transphobia. And I didn't even know I had it. It's very much --
Alex talked about programming and what men and boys have been programmed
to think about women and sexuality, and I think as a society,
we've been programmed to think that people who don't fit into the binary, who aren't men or women, or who were born as a sex
that they don't identify with, that those people are different,
or weird, or strange. And so imagine, when I know
this person inside and out, I have been married to this person
for six years by this point, and I adored every fiber
of this person's being. So you can imagine that me,
of all people, would understand and realize that this is a normal person, who has a very serious condition
that is treatable. But it was hard, because I still felt
this sense of embarrassment, a little bit, or shame, that we were now different. Right? So I had to go through my entire process,
you know, this has been three years, but I've had to do a lot of hard work on "What does it mean to be married
to somebody who is transgender? What does that mean about my sexuality?
Does that mean that I am now a lesbian?" Because when we go out, of course, people see us and they just think
that we're a lesbian couple. That's not entirely accurate. What does it mean --
you know, we go to the gym, and we go to the locker room together,
and we swim together, and all these things lead us
to interactions with people that could or could not
be understanding of our situation. And that was hard for me,
it was hard for me to go from having all this privilege as a white, middle-class female,
who feels OK being a female, who is married to a male,
so I was in a heterosexual relationship, and I had all this privilege
that I didn't even know that I had. So, as we're going through this journey, it's like we're learning
new things everyday, and I'm learning what words to say,
what words not to say; I'm learning what works in the bedroom,
what doesn't work in the bedroom, right? I'm relearning all sorts of things,
but what I'm learning the most is that a lot of my fear
about my spouse changing was really imposed from the outside, it was really my fear
of what other people would think. And so now, I stand here today. I am the proud wife
of a transgender woman, and she is still my soul mate. And I would know she is my soul mate
if this room was dark right now, I would know how to find her in this room. And I think that's the lesson
to take from all this is that people have a patina,
they have a presence in the world, they have a look, or they have a job, or they have all these things
that are outward-facing, that everybody identifies them by
and puts them into boxes; that's how we categorize people
when we get to know them. But underneath, there's a soul, and that soul is
so much deeper and stronger, and so much more identifiable
than that patina. So, my challenge to you today is, "Do you know, would you even know
how to recognize your soul mate?" If you are going out
in the world right now, would you know what you are looking for? Thank you very much, it's been a pleasure. (Applause)
