Goodwin: ‘I wish young people could look back’ & ‘take some hope from’ 1960s protests

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>>> COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW FACING BACKLASH FROM BOTH SIDES OVER THE SWELL OF PRO PALESTINIAN CAMPUS PROTESTS, ANTI-SEMITISM, MANY SCHOOLS CRACKING DOWN AS REPORTS GROW. AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY IN NEW YORK, NEGOTIATIONS CONTINUING WITH STUDENTS, THEY GAVE THEM ANOTHER 48 HOURS TO SET UP A PRO PALESTINIAN ENCAMPMENT OF SMALLER SIZE WITHOUT OUTSIDE AGITATORS ARGUABLY. THE DEADLINE EXTENDED NOW TO TOMORROW TO DISMANTLE IT. ALL VERY REMINISCENT ON DIFFERENT ISSUES. VERSE IT WAS VIETNAM IN THE 1968 PROTESTS AGAINST THAT WAR. ONE WOMAN WHO HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO THE TURBULENCE IS THE PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN WHO WORKED DIRECTLY WITH PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON LATER HELPING HIM WITH HIS MEMOIR. AND SHE TAKES US THROUGH ALL OF IT AND SO MUCH MORE IN HER NEW BOOK, UNFINISHED LOVE STORY, PERSONAL HISTORY OF THE 1960s. AND SHE IS JOINING ME NOW. THIS IS AMAZING. WE'VE READ EVERYTHING YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THE ROOSEVELTS, ABOUT LINCOLN, AND THIS IS SO PERSONAL. I DID NOT KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT IT. AND YOU WENT BACK INTO THE A ARE COULD I HAVES YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND HAD BUT IT IS ALSO A BOOK ABOUT THE '60s. >> HE SAVED EVERYTHING. 300 BOXES, BUT HE DIDN'T WANT TO OPEN THEM BECAUSE THE 60s TODAY ENDED SO SADLY WITH THE DEATHS OF MARTIN LUTHER KING,ALLY HE T AND HE SAID HE HAD BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. WE DIDN'T WANT YOU TO BE SAD AT THE BEGINNING WITH JFK AND THE GREAT SOCIETY AND VOTING RIGHTS AND YOU FINALLY GET UP TO BOB BI-KENNEDY. AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME. THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MARCHED AGAINST SEGREGATION, AGAINST THE DENIAL OF THE VOTE, CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS. AND IT WORKED. TUMBLING DOWN DISCRIMINATORY SYSTEMS OF SEGREGATION AND VOTING RIGHTS. SO THERE WAS A FEELING OF BELIEF IN THE POWER. AND EVEN WITH THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT, THEY GOT LYNDON JOHNSON TO AGREE TO NEGOTIATE AND STOP THE BOMBING AND HE PULLED OUT OF THE RACE. SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. BUT THIS IS A TIME I WISH YOUNG PEOPLE COULD LOOK BACK AT AND TAKE SOME HOPE FROM. >> AND YOUR HUSBAND WAS WITH JFK, HE WAS IN THAT INNER CIRCLE WHEN THE ASSASSINATION HAPPENED. AND YOU HAD YOUR ROOTS IN THE JOHNSON WHITE HOUSE AS A WHITE HOUSE FELLOW. AND THERE WAS THAT TENSION BETWEEN LBJ AFTER THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK, ENDED UP RESULTING IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WHICH LBJ ALWAYS FEARED WOULD HAPPEN. >> AND IT WAS THROUGH OUR MARRIAGE AS WELL. HE WAS SO LOYAL FOR THE KENNEDYS. THE EXCITEMENT OF BEING ON THAT PROP PLANE WHEN YOU ARE A PART OF THAT TEAM AND BEING WITH HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND OF COURSE BEING THE WHITE HOUSE THE NIGHT HIS BODY WAS BROUGHT BACK AND BECOMING SO CLOSE TO JACKIE AND ROBERT KENNEDY. SO ALWAYS HE WAS THE JFK GUY. I WAS LOYAL TO LYNDON JOHNSON BECAUSE I WORKED WITH HIM, THE FOUNDATION OF MY CAREER BECAUSE OF HIM. SO WE WOULD ARGUE ALL THE TIME. I'D SAY JFK DIDN'T GET ANY OF THE PROGRAMS THROUGH, ONLY LBJ DID. BUT HE WOULD SAY JFK INSPIRED THE COUNTRY. AND WE FINALLY CAME TO THAT NEITHER ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN AS GREAT WITHOUT THE OTHER. >> AND UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE NOT ONLY IN YOUR MARRIAGE, BUT -- AN EXTRAORDINARY MARRIAGE, BUT IN THIS BOOK ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP. >> AND I REALLY DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DECADE, FIRST OF ALL I DON'T THINK THAT KENNEDY WOULD HAVE EVER BECOME PRESIDENT IF HE HADN'T MADE LBJ HIS VICE PRESIDENT. BUT THE MOON SHOT HE INSPIRED, BUT LBJ WAS ABLE TO GET ALL THE WORK DONE TO MAKE IT THAN. AND I ENDED UP WITH RESPECT FOR BOTH OF THEM. THINK ABOUT THAT DECADE, WE HAVE LARGE LEADERS, MANY PEOPLE WANT TO GO INTO PUBLIC LIFE, YOUNG PEOPLE FEEL A TRUST IN THE GOVERNMENT. OBVIOUSLY THE WAR TOOK SOME OF THAT TRUST AWAY AND CREDIBILITY, BUT DURING THE HEYDAY OF THAT, IT WAS SO GREAT TO BE YOUNG AND BE ALIVE. I WAS AN INTERN, I WAS AT THAT MARCH ON WASHINGTON, I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT EXPERIENCE TO BE CARRYING A SIGN FOR CIVIL RIGHTS. A FEELING THAT YOU WERE MAKING THE COUNTRY BETTER. AND YOU REALLY WERE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE GREAT SOCIETY DID. >> AND WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH OF IT COME APART. THE PEACE CORPS IMPORTANTLY, THAT IS PART OF MY FAMILY'S SERVICE. AND THE FEELING OF VOLUNTEERISM. WE HAVE A WHOLE COHORT OF PEOPLE IN THE SENATE NOW AGING OUT WHO WERE INSPIRED BY THAT, PARTICIPATED IN THAT, WERE IN EITHER VOLUNTEERISM, YOU KNOW, ROCKEFELLER AND OTHER GREAT SENATORS IN THE PAST ALL PART OF THAT. MOYNIHAN BRIDGING THAT GAP. >> AND IT REALLY WAS A SIGNATURE OF THE KENNEDY YEARS. AND MY HUSBAND WAS THERE AT THE MOMENT WHEN IT WAS BORN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN WHEN ALL THAT JFK DID WAS TO SAY HOW MANY OF YOU WILL BE WILLING TO GO TO GHANA FOR A COUPLE YEARS. THREE MINUTE SPEECH AND KIDS TOOK UP THE CHALLENGE. THEY GOT A PLEDGE FROM 1,000 PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD JOIN THIS NONEXISTENT PEACE CORPS AND THEN IT WAS BORN. A SYMBOL OF THE ERA. >> AND I RECENTLY LOOKED AT A CLIP FROM LBJ'S COMMENCEMENT ADDRESS AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF A AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. AND HOW YOU CAN'T JUST EXPECT PEOPLE TO ALL OF A SUDDEN, OKAY, YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SIT AT A LUNCH COUNTER AND EXPECT THEM TO THRIVE IN SOCIETY. THEY HAVE TO HAVE HELP TO CATCH UP. >> AND WHAT HE UNDERSTOOD, IT WAS A METAPHOR, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE PERSON TO THE BEGINNING OF THE RACE AND EXPECT THEM TO COMPETE WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN HELD BACK FOR ALL THAT TIME. AND ANOTHER EXTRAORDINARY THING HE SAID WAS THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE BORN WITH THE SAME RANGE OF ABILITIES, ABOUT THEY ARE STUNTED OR STRETCHED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU GROW UP WITH AND THE SCHOOL YOU GO TO. AND SO AN ATTEMPT REALLY TO UNDERSTAND THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC PROBLEMS HAVE TO FOLLOW LEGAL CHALLENGES. AS YOU SAY THE VICTORIES WERE MADE LEGALLY, BUT IT WAS MUCH MORE TO FIND THE FULL BLESSINGS OF LIFE TO PEOPLE WHO WERE HURT BY POVERTY OR RACE. >> AND UNFINISHED LOVE STORY. UNFINISHED IN SO MANY WAYS, BUT JUST FABULOUS. CONGRATULATIONS. >> SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE READING IT. >> AND IT IS SO
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Length: 7min 28sec (448 seconds)
Published: Wed Apr 24 2024
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