Glock Trigger Safety Mod pt1 EDUCATIONAL ONLY

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hey YouTube what's up it is Johnny block here and this first video I put out any a while just because you know down here we have it that's storm Irma and kind of had to flee for a little while just to make sure the kids and family and everyone thing was okay the store is fine I'm fine however we did have to move around a bit just to skirt the possible whenever they call cone of projection so anyway it was an adventure I'll tell you that but I'm glad to be back and I'm glad to be uh you know taking orders again not that I ever stopped taking orders but uh I'm finally caught up enough now that I can shoot a video here and it's gonna be a pretty good one so and this usually only happens with the bigger guns so when I said bigger guns I'm talking ten millimeter and forty five but the variances in what is the portion of the gun where the safety tab right it's still hard to see there but you can the safety trigger tab it's right back there this I really need to start putting these things out before I start there but this this this area right here and I'll get it into focus for you and you can see look right there there's like a hair of space right behind there that's basically really all you want or need a lot of the aluminum shoes you'll see have a lot of space there and that's what kind of when they fail the you know when they fail that test when they hit it at an angle and they you know put just water in there and it blows off it's because the momentum before the actual safety trigger tab catches the frame there's enough momentum to push it down off of the shelf and what that looks like is this so you're taking this part and it's sitting back right in there and we're going to do this we're gonna do this really good sitting back here so when when it pops it goes down down into the shelf everyone knows way kind of Glock works but anyway I'm gonna actually this time I'm like really good I'm putting the camera behind me so you can see what I'm doing this way because I'm just tired of you know feeling all goofy and playing with stuff in the in the mirror image so basically with the bigger guns that I leave a lot more material on a Stryker safety tab because usually there's variances and I have to err on the side of caution now there have been people that have called me and said hey can we take more pre travel on I really like that whole 1911 thing you do and I said yeah and I try to talk them through it but it's it's hard to talk someone through this and also there's a lot of a liability when it comes to doing something like this you know at this point the trigger that I built for you is yours so what you do is on you I don't want standing in a jerky way you know because everyone knows I take phone calls on Saturday and Sunday and try to walk you guys through stuff so basically if you if it need be just remember that and be careful you know I mean and that's what I'm going to do I'm going to show you some things and at the same time I'm gonna give you the considerations and the I wouldn't say compromises but the counter checks you know I mean if you're gonna do this you have to make sure this is done if this happens you have to make sure this happens because that's the way you keep the gun safe and that's the way I know if especially when I'm working on someone's gun is a different story you know if I'm doing a drop in I kind of find the mean and between a couple different frames and and and set screw it there or you know whatever connector I'm using or there's a variety of different things that I'm doing with these drop ins that's why they're not like if we don't do the cutter thing I would say we I don't do the cookie cutter thing here I'm building these one-off and you know my hands are and every one of them and I'm gonna talk a little bit about that as we're going along as well so um I'm going to flip this camera now and we'll be able to see what I'm doing right in front of me and let's hopefully we'll get through this without too much insanity right so there we go you're gonna see this but you know what a little bit okay so I use this gun okay and you can see where we talked about the trigger safety tab it is engaging right there it's not going to go anywhere now this is one of those triggers it is very much now you have to keep to keep it safe you have to have a little bit of this right here and this is also the transfer bar if you feel it would feel right there well actually I'm gonna show that everyone this is clear that was a comment of a post on no magazine on Facebook that you know even though I'm used to it and everyone knows that these guns are clear basically I should show people because it might be their first video and it's my responsibility and all of our responsibilities to use gun safety at every step of the way so you can see there's no nothing in the chamber it's a clear gun no magazine back to this so the trigger safety tab is grabbing there there is no way that is going to disengage unless you disengage it okay you can see it moving we also said there only has to be a small amount you can see the space in between the back of that and they I've heard the same piece of paper before and that could that's close you know let's let's put a piece of paper this is thin paper but you know heck we'll do it anyway so a piece of paper back behind here and you can see a paper fits in there right um well barely see this flimsy paper - man yeah there we go okay it's in there it fits right there but basically like I said this is engaging and that is more than enough especially when I get over the white right there you can see that that's more than enough space and definitely there piece of paper and go through this is keeping the gun safe very safe and that's for the drops and you know what not I have a couple times people calling out and just you know oh my god thank you so much that these are safe they've draw them off of their refrigerators at home you know ready to go to breakfast with kids in the breakfast area and you know of course it stayed safe because I knew it would but you know that's a heart-pounding situation so right there so there's that little bit of and it's right we're on the wall here but there's just a little bit of movement and then right from this part movement you have the break and then and you can see how I do this I was back my finger here so you see how short the reset is there's the reset this isn't a particularly loud reset because that's the way it was - I was asked to build it so if you can see it is a very short reset especially if you're looking at that pin right there so right reset and once this first shot is broken it is basically running like a 1911 because it is pressure this pressure that is studying this off it is not a ton of movement like pressure sets it off and it has the feeling of pressure even though there is some travel so what we do is we're going to open up the gun and what we're looking for here is and this is why okay I was out you know I always get on other people's sites and read what they have to say and uh it's the coolest thing I saw it was like Suarez said you know we are riding the shelf they let you know that they are riding the shelf which means as they are in this area right in here now honestly I've worked on a couple Suarez is they're not really riding it as much as they say they are but nonetheless it's sitting about right here and if you do any trigger work you know that that's going to hold but that is contingent upon a bunch of different stuff okay the system we just looked at if you would look above a trigger and I'm going to show you this there's this line right here which is the beginning of the trigger shelf that is perpendicular to that or parallel shall I say parallel and then when you put the trigger in not only is it have sitting on the shelf on this side but it will correspondingly be sitting on the shelf on this side drop shelf drop okay so with this system you'll actually be able to see this line on my gun and so you can see I'm you know and I'm doing this because I really know the the counter measures and and things like that that you have to do to keep these safe so with it even sitting right there if you know what the heck you're doing you can do it but it all is contingent upon this okay this is not going to let you pass this is not going to let you sit anywhere close to that because of the way it's designed and even with the stock system you know you have a ton of room in between this and the frame because the striker is the striker the striker spring is half a pound heavier than the trigger spring so you have half a pound pushing it forward that's why there is all that forward movement in the Glock so there's movement even before the trigger housing hits and you you'll see that too and a lot of the aluminum shoes where there's like I said before space in between the frame and this and that's like I said when it if you hit it right and you have that momentum and that's where the guy shows the videos with all this triggers failing if you have that momentum in a certain way it's going to just drop down in there and bang okay so I'll show you this one trigger safety is like I said it is engaged and there's that line we are right on that line but if I push down it's not going anywhere it is in a tug-of-war with the it's in a tug-of-war with that safety this right there and that is not going to move so you can see the trigger tab is buttered all the way against if I pull up a little bit there there it goes right there I'm gonna get down the sheet of white okay so there it goes right there but if I let go of it and then flip it here and you can see I am still completely captured this is not going to drop and go off and there's some other things to consider with this as well and as you see this is you know this is the only movement we have in this system you can see the line right there you can see the line right there that is the shelf so this is the only movement we have in this system but it Clips right on there and I do some stuff to the bar to ensure it's 90 and it's going to hold but that's all the more movement in this system that's why when it when it's put on here that's why the stroke is so short and your splits are tightening up and your accuracy is awesome and all that kind of stuff especially with the 34 so there was one more thing I wanted to mention about that I just thought of it and I just lost it it will come back to me but um that's basically how you need to think of this this will actually keep it from dropping off even if it's hit like they hit it on an angle like that and that's designed to throw it back at a 45 and have it slide down the 45-degree angle you know the drop safety is actually horizontal drop safeties made more for horizontal drops and the trigger safety is made for vertical drops but right in between there is a place where you know guns can drop and it needs to be addressed and to keep the trigger safe there's some things you have to do so back to the whole reason when they let's start with this first so one of the things is if you're using a 3.5 connector right here you're also you don't have a lot of wall to hold the trigger bar in place either so you are going to it's going to be very easy to just wham slip off that see the angle that that has right there it's going to be easy to you hit and then slip okay okay engagement is what I wanted to get to so that's one consideration that you have to have if even if you're against the wall a hard drop could push it down because of this graduated angle I better back out this so you can see the full neck I'm here maybe I have one here it's alright give me a second alright so as you can see from here there we go it's very graduated so you know a 7 8 foot drop or 7 foot 6 foot drop let's say from a 7 foot drop from refrigerator could go wham and have that thing dropped down if you don't know what you're doing and you don't have you know enough engagements and some of it has to do with the trigger spring and the striker spring as well and we'll get to that so I'm gonna pop this out so you can actually see the difference so now I'm going to put a okay here's a dot connector I'm gonna grab a standard connector as well so now you can see with the with the dot connector you have more it's not as you know soft going back like that it's hitting this right here and it's going to really want to use that almost as a stop with a radius so that's the consideration right there you have more of a stout wall that is actually going to hold this whole mechanism into place so the safety so you will not engage the drop safety right there or disengage the drop safety so that and I'll show you I'll try to do it with a 1 right next to it that I'll put these both in here piss off it's real time folks real time let me grab another bar out of here okay so let's just get a visual on this and let me move this crap out of the way let's get a visual so this is the 3.5 connector so as you can see it's coming back and it's hitting this and it's going to hit it like that before it drives it down it's going to hit it like that before drives down now here's the level of connectors as you can see it's a totally different I'm not really even getting much of a wall there it's really just drop drop now if we put pop this out and put a standard connector in here and see this is the difference of like you know building tactical triggers you know like you have to know these aspects of if you push thresholds man you better know what the hell you're doing even in your own gun and I'll take calls any time so even with this you have even more you have even more of a limit let me double check this to make sure it's a yeah standard okay just seemed a little odd right there it wasn't - hanging out so even here with this you have that stop okay that's three point that's the four and a half pound connector which everyone calls a three and a half pound connector but it's actually a four and a half pound connector and then I'll push the dot through this one here's the dot actually I like the way I use the dog connector a lot I like the this looks more like the healthiest kind of stop you know right there and you get of the dock connector for so many different reasons it's kind of right in the middle of everything and then drop it drops quickly and it also resets you know this is your reset happens right here so that's why the 3.5 connector resets quicker because say you're sitting here you have to come all the way in front of that the radius has to come all the way back okay and then with the look at all with this thing look at all the reset has to come forward here that's why the resets on the stock locks are so long but once again with this angle it's stopping it stopping it pretty well 23.5 I'll slap that in there so you can just get a visual of what I'm talking about with reset make sure the stops out of there quite a flung over here with the 3.5 reset you can see right here this is all the way back this is all the way back to the you know back to the wall right there that's why the 3.5 reset is happening right see it's even harder to get it on it's like my stops coming out a little bit right there and then it's reset that's how you can get the reset quicker so that's that's one consideration the angle of the connector now you also have to remember with engagement I got to go grab something for you so this has the armourers backplate in it okay and you cannot this one on my triggers you cannot see the sear it is covered up by the striker lug face but once we start to move you'll see it slip down and out okay there it is so so if I have 100% engagement right there that's another thing that if this falls if this draw it the engagement itself because it is so solid there and it's not like you know I've shown you on other videos where Glock allows like a quarter of it sticking out but with this you can see it is a hundred percent engaged so if there is a drop it is not going to this thing isn't going to be hanging along by let me pull this so you can start to see a little bit I'll try to admit I'll try to go just okay oh yeah see I can't even do it because the design of the trigger is different and there's some modifications of making that arc in a lot of town but even though it's a hundred percent engaged right maybe right there is where Glock will allow but if it's if it was just hanging on by a thread like that and it dropped you are going to have an issue especially with a 3.5 connector in correspondence to bad engagement okay those are considerations you have to have let's see what the movement is in this system to so once again there's your there's your line you're coming right up on it and it backs off okay so that's the trigger safety tab engaging right there get that so we can see it possibly a yeah right there so there's a trigger safety tab engaging and then right here if I push down it's not it's not moving you know it's not going to move because it's on that it's actually on that angle right there and it's being held forward I use that this is the other consideration so if you have connector engagement and also like I said I advocate the 5-pound spring I like the 5-pound spring it's going to give you a speedy reset so basically with the speedy reset if you match the striker spring up four and a half to five you're gonna have a lot of tension in between this part and this part it's gonna be a good counter tension now just like the stock configuration that has it a half pound heavier that has that you use a half pound it's not going to be as stout as that but like I said we're trying to lighten and enhance the trigger so it's going to be differently so this a budding against here with engagement with five pounds going this way in four and a half coming there you have a nice solid meeting of those two pieces so full engagement and the fact that you don't have that you do have like a balance spring with it what some people do is they'll put that six pound spring in here and the four pound spring in the striker so as far as the four pound is is pushing back only so much the trigger the the trigger spring is pulling forward even though the tension is there it's it's a different type of mechanism that makes it not as there's just not as much pressure against those two points so say this is the seer coming up against the striker lug face and when this seer drops down it comes forward if you have all that forward tension this way and you don't have a counter tension this way it's gonna have a lot it's gonna be a lot of use that's why when you put your four pound spring and there the brake starts to go [ __ ] brake feels very even for a tactical trigger that I would build that has a glass rod the brakes gonna start to feel rolling because you don't have any real pressure on this striker lug face so it starts that's why I tell people you might like the three pound trigger everyone wants a 2.5 or two and a quarter you can create that even a two with a you know with the UM with the four pound spring and that's another thing they mess around that they say okay a two pound Springs because it gives you a two pound yield a two pound spring is actually a four pound spring right around there and so that's considerations the engagement the connector and the springs all working in use in all right now there is another way to do all this and it this is a little trick I'm not showing you all of it but
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Channel: JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona
Views: 98,122
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Length: 23min 10sec (1390 seconds)
Published: Mon Sep 25 2017
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