Getting Started with a Plant 3D P&ID Drawing

welcome everyone uh good morning good afternoon uh to uh today's uh lunch and learn webinar on getting started with plant 3d p id drawings my name is philip charleson from atg i'm a senior technical specialist here and uh again we're going to take a look at uh some plant uh info on p id drawings today uh but first a little bit about my background um so i've been with as a a tech with a uh autodesk reseller for uh 19 of the past 20 years um i spent a year as a bin manager for a large national firm i've been uh instructing users on revit since uh early 2002 when i first started using revit [Music] also i worked with mep architecture companies and uh and plant design uh as well so i've been uh working with these types of companies since 2001 i also have the uh the most certifications by a user in the state of minnesota um and uh if you want to talk legos or star wars uh i'm always game for that as well so let's look into uh what we're going to be checking out today um so our end goal here today is uh just simply learning how to develop a schematic representation uh for a plant design uh instance i'm going to show you some of the uh the startup options that we have um also uh some of the comparisons uh between plants and just regular autocad for a lot of users now that have the aec collections uh you may have noticed that you you now have access to plant 3d which uh prior was a program that you had to purchase separately so uh we're seeing a lot more people uh start to take a look at the the plant design over uh just doing uh regular autocad at this point and i'll be showing you some of the tools within the p id that might make it useful to make the move from an autocad instance to the plant 3d side of things so again we're going to be taking a look at those processes and uh you know seeing what it takes to develop the the p id drawings within the autodesk plant 3d software so here's uh some of our learning objectives that we're going to take a look at today um again uh you know what is a p90 drawing why is it beneficial take a look at the user interface um show you a little bit of comparisons between an autocad and a plant 3d interface i'll show you how to get started within a p id place some equipment some lines and make some edits uh within a p id so uh first off you know what it what is a p id drawing um so i kind of went out and kind of got the wikipedia version of what's a p id drawing here and uh you know it's a detailed diagram in the process industry which shows the piping and process equipment together with the instrumentation and control devices so for p id it is typically one of the first things that you do with a plant design because it's kind of your your quick sketch of how you want your design to go together without uh maybe thinking of you know all the different individual parts and pieces um it's a it's a good way to um you know kind of lay out that early on design and then progress with it with the the 3d aspect and get a little bit more specific with your information that information that you use in the p id can be utilized in the plant 3d because they uh they link together so kind of a nice option there and you can kind of use it as a checklist uh for the revit users um they have a a module that works with revit that you can utilize your p id from plants uh into revit um there is some setup for revit because revit isn't necessarily designed for process design but uh with some help uh templates can be developed and different types of piping can also be created to be used within revit taking a look at the the plant 3d interface so i grabbed a couple screenshot shots of a couple things uh kind of importance for uh plant 3d and more or less kind of p id aspect that we'll be taking a look at one of the big thing is the the workspaces so autocad has that along with other vertical products uh workspaces are important in plant 3d because you have an interface that will work with the p id aspect and you have an interface that will work with the uh the 3d aspect um if you have if you're currently an autocad user uh you can actually take a look at workspaces now and you'll see that there's also something similar to that in autocad uh if you are doing a lot of 3d modeling you have an interface for that and you have more of a drafting type mode as well for the 2d aspect the ribbon which i i took a little screenshot down below here you'll see a lot of the uh the autocad type tools in the ribbon but uh within plant 3d and the p id interfaces you'll have some additional tools to utilize for p90d and plant 3d one thing i didn't get a screenshot of was the the project manager so this is something that's a little different for an autocad user autocad um doesn't have the project manager uh plant 3d and civil 3d do and it's a way to kind of control all the documents that you have for the project and you access the drawings through the project manager instead of just simply a file open like you would typically do within autocad um we also have the properties palette which comes into play there's a lot of data that's contained within plant 3d and the p id documentation so the the properties are going to be an important aspect of your p ids as well the next one here is the data manager which i did take a little screenshot of that um everything that you put into your p id for equipment you're going to see within the data manager and you're going to be able to put in different types of information manufacturer model information um put tag information within there there's actually a lot of customization that you can do depending on how much information that you want to add into components and again that starts right away with your p id so um you know in autocad you you somewhat have dumb blocks you can add some information you can add attributes to it plant 3d is is typically a bit more intelligent than just regular autocad out of the box when you start placing p and id symbology there's data attached to that and that data obviously can transfer over to the the 3d aspect of it as well and there's more intelligence with that so you you really have one really big database with plant 3d compared to autocad where you're kind of building that up from project to project the other thing a little a little bit further along in the plant 3d side is uh the spec viewer and just simply writing specs and what this is is basically you know you choosing what types of components that you want uh for a particular spec it could be for a particular project and basically you're choosing uh what you do or maybe what you don't want to be able to use for a particular project so there's a a number of different components that you can go in and add to a spec and different types of materials uh and that's all within the plant 3d and you can build that up and and uh make it specific for your company if it's something that you want to repeat over and over again from project to project you're able to do that you can also go in and change that information uh to be project specific last one is the uh the tool palettes which i have uh the p9 id uh tool palette so as you can see there's a few different tabs within here so this is kind of the out of the box look to the tool palette so you have a number of tools within there but there is definitely a customization that can be had for that plant 3d obviously covers a wide range of industries so each industry is going to utilize different types of equipment so you're going to want to customize your tool palette for your particular industry again the the p id type information is something that's basically repeatable from p90 to p id when you get into the plant 3d side those are typically spec driven so you're going to see pieces of information that you have from the specs and not a default settings because you only want to be able to see that information uh that you want to have for that particular project all right so next just simply starting a p id drawing so i'll be getting into this here shortly but uh just kind of a a really quick breakdown of this um kind of simplify this uh so first off just simply starting a new project within the project manager uh if one hasn't already been set up sometimes we see some 3d plant drawings already been created so p ids can already be added to a an existing project but uh if a project has not been started uh we can go through the process of creating a brand new project uh and then within the uh the project manager there's gonna be an area where we can create a new p id drumming file so you'll see those different areas when i get into a plant here and show you the the project manager uh once you start up that uh this new p id drawing file um you typically want to go in and start placing your equipment first kind of getting that laid out uh then we go in and start connecting equipment with the p id line work we can go in and add some data into the uh the equipment that we have that's going to basically develop or create tags that we can go in and place and uh we can get as specific as we want to uh we're also able to kind of leave items open meaning we can go in and change it later or if we don't know right off hand right at the start we can come back and make some changes to that we also have the option to add some information into the data manager and possibly even export that information out to excel have a person that is not necessarily proficient with a plant 3d and they can plug in information in excel and you can re-import that and it basically plugs that back into [Music] the symbology and information that you have with implant 3d we can go in and place some inline equipment valve type information and then we can go ahead and modify components line work to our needs sometimes you need to adjust your p ids to allow a little bit more room for placement of additional objects you know you don't always have to place all the equipment right at the start sometimes you don't always know what you're going to place sometimes some of that information comes later sometimes you need to go in and make some modifications to that all right so we're going to pop into plant 3d now and what i've got right here i wanted to kind of open up a kind of a sample project and kind of give you a little little walk around here of the uh the interface of plant 3d so uh first off i kind of want to point out the project manager over here so again this is the uh the brains of your project because it uh it contains all the drawings within the project as i mentioned before you typically don't want to go to a an open and and select a file that way that's what you would do in autocad also i would suggest not going to windows explorer and double clicking on a dwg where you have your drawings as well because you want to have it run through the process uh when you do go in and open up a file for p90d or plant um it does a little bit of an audit when it does open that up to kind of check the database to see if there's any new information within there so uh when i go in and just simply double click on a drawing within here you might have just seen it for split second but there is a drawing validation dialog box and that's kind of what i was referring to um so i was just kind of checking to see if there's any uh modifications within the p90s that might have an effect there and i would see uh maybe some other type of notification that i might need to check something so didn't show anything at that point so i am good uh good to go with that um also in the project manager um other than the p id drawings you can see that we have plant 3d drawings within here uh we have some pipe specs in here so we have quite a few pipe specs and we also have some related files that look like we have any within here but those will be any type of supplementary uh type files that we we could use uh for the project um i also mentioned the uh the data manager so if i go up to the top here in the ribbon um just kind of a quick glance at the ribbon here i am in the home tab and you'll see that uh basically up to this point right here we're looking at all uh p and id type information that we can go in and click on beyond that we're looking at really autocad type data within here and really any of the other tabs you're seeing autocad type information but so if i go and click on this data manager what happens is it will go in and open up the data manager on my other screen so i'll just pull that over here and with the data manager it's basically listing out everything right now that i have in this current drawing in the background here so you'll see in the upper left hand corner says current drawing data you can see that i can choose the p and id project data so that would actually be looking at all four of the p ids that i have in this project we also have the option to look at project reports so project reports we can go in and create so i can click on some of these default ones within here and we can kind of see a listing of what we have as far as equipment within our current project here it's telling us what drawing that's in uh we got an id number here i can see manufacturers model numbers not a whole lot placed within here but as i mentioned uh these can actually be pushed out of a project we can actually export these out to an excel file and again a non plant 3d user can go into an excel file they would see this in an excel format they go in and plug in that data and they can give it back to you and you can come back in here and you can import that back in and it relays all this information to all the components all this equipment that you have in here so it basically fills in the data so you can see we've got instrumentation list here line lists if i go back to the p id project data you can see that we can use a little bit of filtering here so we can just look at the equipment we can just look at the filters and filter the filter um heat exchangers so we can divide it up by what type of equipment so if we're gonna you know get down to individual type components we can go in and do that within the uh the data manager so really nice powerful tool uh to be able to look at that information and everything that you see within here this is all right now default out of the box if i wanted to go in and add more fields to this if i if there's other items that i felt were relevant to be seen i can go in and modify this to show what i want to be able to see or have someone go in and fill that information in that i need to have so all those can be modified um right next to the data manager is the project manager and again that that's what we have here we also have the project setup so if i go and click on the project setup you'll see that it actually opens up a separate file and we got this uh project symbol style dwg and what that is is it basically contains uh the project or template information um plant 3d is a little bit different again than than autocad in that you are setting up a project template and not necessarily just a template dwg type file so within this project symbol style dwg you're actually saving all of your settings within this dwg but it's also incorporating it into your project as well so within the project setup you have uh some of your general settings within here we have our p id drawing settings uh so when i go ahead and click on some of these if i go down to the class definitions here it looks a little bit confusing but some of the things you don't have to go in and change some things you can go in and copy and modify the way that you want as you can see here as i'm going down the tree list here for equipment and blowers you can see that we have five different types of blowers if you have an interest of developing more types of blowers we can go in and do that and if you have some symbology that you may have been using within autocad some blocks that you've created we can reuse that information and develop it as a p id type symbol so when i go to this uh centrifugal blower you can see right here we have a symbol that represents that blower type style and we can go in and add a new symbol if we have a a different type of look to that so this isn't something that is you know you're you're stuck with um you can go in and have your own type of symbol if you have a different type of style we can go in and edit the symbol so if you want to tweak it a little bit we can go in and modify that like you would modify a an autocad block um we also would typically go in and edit this block because we want to go in and add some connectors to it so a little bit different or a little bit of an add-on type feature that you want to do within the p id aspect of it compared to autocad because we want to be able to go in and set where we want the connectors to be when we start connecting line work to it um and now also as you can see here we can go ahead and add it to your tool palette that you might have over here and we can go in and continue to develop that tool palette as you go um down below here these are different um properties that we can go in and add to it so these might be items that you look at when you select on the uh the blower in your drawing and you look at the properties uh some of these items you can go in and fill in um as far as kind of making a standard if uh you know use the same manufacturer for every single blower you can go in and add that in here you don't have to add it uh for every single project it's just going to default to that one every single time otherwise you can you know go in and modify it when you go in and place it or you can always come back and and take out that default manufacturer change it to a different one as well uh another thing to look at down at the bottom is what type of tags that you want to go in and use so when you go in and place this in the p id what do you want for a designation for a tag so you can go in and change what type of formatting that you want for the different taggings that you place within the p and id so if i go and click on the modify here so get getting a little bit deeper in the p id but again you can choose what type of fields uh you can see this one has three subparts so that's why we're seeing three different line items so we're seeing the area a type and then a number designation for the centrifugal blower style and that's just the the equipment tag there you can see that you can actually have multiple types of tags as well because when you go in and start tagging these items you can get a drop down list and choose which type of tag that you want to use for that instance so there can be potentially a lot of customization that you can do but you'll find that there is some that has been set up for you uh already uh within the the p id and the uh the plant 3d side of things so that was just the equipment there and you have uh inline type information some valves fittings reducers those types of things we have instrumentation we've got the different types of lines uh that we have these can go in and be modified uh both pipeline and signal type instances so those can be tweaked they can be uh modified the way that you want to be able to see them we can change colors line types line weights all that good stuff to make it look the way that you want your uh p ids to look like so again that was just the p id aspect of it you can see that there's plant 3d settings uh isometrics and also ortho type settings and again this is all controlled uh within this project symbol style dwg as you can see when i close it out it actually closes out that drawing uh with it as well so if you made some changes to it it'll save those uh modifications within there as well now popping into uh this p id here so i'm going to go into uh our model space here and just simply zoom in and just simply take a look at what we have here in a p id so we have some equipment in here so everything that is green is uh some type of equipment uh when i move my cursor over an item here you can see that this is just simply a vessel uh we have a tag here tk for for tank and a zero zero four designation uh you can also see that we have some nozzles uh that we can go in and make some connections to uh if we want to go in and change uh objects to something else in this case for nozzle you can see that we have different nozzle types that i can go in and swap them out to so it's just a uh more or less kind of a block type instance a dynamic block that we can go in and change that to a different type of nozzle you'll see that with valves as well if i go to a valve here so if i click on this one here you can see we have a number of different types of valves uh when i move my cursor over you can see the different types that we have within there um for some of them sometimes we can go in and switch the direction so we got our flip component there uh we also have the option to assign tags so when i go in and use my right click menu uh we can go in and assign a tag and see we've got a tag for this one already here but if i go ahead and delete that out just kind of show you what happens when we click on assign we get the assigned tag dialog box and you can see that it is set up for a hand valve class and for that particular class it's looking for the code and number designation so the hand valve code is h a in this instance and it's using the number 121 uh for the uh the designation uh the nice thing about uh adding tags within here is uh we can click on the existing end valves and you can verify okay which ones are already uh being used within the project and i see here we've got a couple that have duplicate numbers so whenever i see a question mark behind it that means we have a duplicate there so i may have to go in and change that to a different designation because we may want to have different number uh designations for each of these gate valves within here so that's a modification that i might go in and do uh within the data manager because there i could go in and see all the different types of uh again valves and go and make those modifications but uh it's a nice way to be able to see again what's already being used and maybe what number uh i can use for this designation to make sure that i don't use the same uh designation as another one if you do use the same designation we'll pop up with a warning saying that there is one already within it all right um so i think what i'll do next here is i'm going to get out of this project and i'm just going to simply start a new project just to kind of show you how how we get a uh a project going here so i'm not going to save any of the options here and i'm going to close out of a out of my project at this point so you can see the general plant design in my project manager so i'm going to right click on that and close out of that project so at this point i want to go in and start a new project within plant 3d so i can just click on the new here i can also click in the drop down and select a new project within here so either one's going to get you the same location for that so you have a project setup wizard that you need to go through here so i'm just going to enter a new name here so we'll just call this one webinar keep it keep it simple we do have options that we can use vault to store the information i'm just going to save this right on my c drive here the other important thing here is copying settings from an existing project so if you have a lot of your company standards company settings set up in that drawing that i mentioned earlier from a project you typically want to check that box and you want to locate the project xml file that contains that information so that way it will bring all that data actually copy that dwg that has all of your settings into your current project so this is a very important step to take and it is the first page that you get to there in this case i'm not going to copy any settings from this i'm just going to use the straight out of the box here same thing as what you guys might see on your end uh if you're getting into plant 3d for the first time so i'll click next here we're going to use imperial units uh specified drawings where the directory and p id drawings will be stored at so basically took the same location there it's taking my webinar project name creating a p90 drawing folder within there i'm using the pip standard symbology go ahead and click next as you can see it's going to go and create all these additional uh folders so it will create a a folder structure within uh your windows explorer with all of these folders within there so it isn't just again a dwg you're creating you're literally creating a folder structure for a project so i'll click next here i'm just gonna do a single user for this instance click next here and we will go ahead and finish that out give it a couple seconds here all right so i can see right here we now have our webinar as our current project uh we've got our folder structure there for p and id drawings shouldn't be anything within there really shouldn't be anything other than you know some simple pipe specs within there but i want to go and create a new p id drawing so i'm just going to simply right click on my p9 id drawings here and click on new drumming so again we don't want to go up to the top like you might do in autocad and click new drawing there the settings that i just went through for the project setup is going to set up everything that i need within there so i'm using my project manager to go on and create a new drawing instead so uh for this first one here a simple file name um we'll just call it uh p id 001 keep it simple again here folder path ewg template um you can see we got a p id uh ncd type within here so again i i just took the default settings but if we wanted to we can go in and choose a different type uh with plant 3d you do have a lot of p id type templates to utilize with some standard title blocks obviously those can be modified with your company's title blocks uh to get you going with the p ids so i'm going to click ok here and uh we've got a very simple uh title block uh we are already in model space so we are ready to uh to start placing some information within here so i want to go over to the tool palettes and i didn't show you this earlier but uh right now i've got the tool palettes p90d pip uh showing within here now one thing at the very bottom here uh workspace switching i wanted to show you that if i click on that pops up and shows us some of the different options that we have now in just regular autocad you have the 3d modeling 3d basics drafting and annotation when it comes to the plant side you have the 3d piping and then you have the different uh p id options within here so you have pip iso isa d-i-n-gis iso as well so i'm sticking with the pid pip option for this one and for each one that you would click on you would get a different set of tools within your tool palette um also let me just switch over to 3d piping just to kind of show you what happens with that so when i switch that over you'll notice up at the top uh the home tab changes to give me the 3d piping aspect uh we also have isos we have structure um analysis type information within here as well so if you're doing p90s and you're seeing this uh make sure you switch to the uh the right uh workspace you can see that your tool palettes also change for that instance as well so there won't be any 2d p id symbologies within here all 3d type information so i'm going to switch it back to the p id pip and you can see now we have our pid information and our tool palettes have changed within here as well all right so first thing i mentioned was uh going in and placing some equipment so if i go to the equipment uh tab here you can see that we've got different areas uh within each tab so you can see we have pumps up here compressors blowers tma type exchangers other exchangers storage tanks so vessels down here as well so i want to go in and just simply go in and place a vessel all right so i go ahead and click on that and bring my cursor over here and you'll see the command line here specifying an insertion point so if i go on and click a point it gives me the option to go in and scale this so depending on really how large you want um your symbol to be you know if it's going to be a large vessel maybe you want to make it larger or if it's going to be a little bit smaller we can go and make it smaller it also may depend upon um how much space or how many objects that you really want to go in and place within your design i'm just going to keep the scale at the default uh one to one here so i'm just going to hit enter and it gives me the option here to go in and assign a tag all right so for my tank here first object i'm placing i'm just going to type in 101 there if i click on existing tanks there isn't going to be anything listed within there um i also have the option here where i can go in and place an annotation after assigning the tag so this is assigning the tag this is actually going to be placing the tag and you can see with the drop down here we have some different uh annotation styles that we can go in place so these are the different types of tags uh that are available to place for this now i'm just gonna place the uh the regular equipment tag and i'm just gonna drop that uh just right up on the top here so tk101 uh the other nice thing uh i'd like to point out is uh when you're working in plants um they've locked the viewport down the scaling so i know everybody's done this in autocad before when you zoom in zoom out of a a viewport totally messes up your your scaling it's already locked for you so it's a small feature but it's a it's a very nice feature um the next one here i want to go ahead and just place an exchanger um so i'm going to come up to the top here and let's see here i want to go in and place i'm going to place this one here i want to drop this in right next to it and goes in and again wants me to plug in the number so i'll just do 101 for that now i did 101 for the other one but this one is uh designated for type as e so it's going to give us a different uh tag for this so i'm going to click on a sign here and i'm just going to drop this one below it all right and i also want to go and place a couple pumps within here as well so if i come up here i want to place a couple uh horizontal centrifugal pumps and we'll drop those in place and we want this one to be uh we'll do 101a and we'll assign that one drop that below and i'm going to place another one so i can just hit enter and drop this one next to it and this time if i go to my uh the button over here which is what you can do with this is this is a nice feature to use when you want to choose a number that hasn't been utilized so i'll kind of take that next number now this one was already designated as p101a instead i'd rather have this one p101b if i click on the drop down here obviously we can see that so instead of me using the zero zero one i want it to be 101 b instead and we want to assign that and we're going to just simply drop that one below it now after uh going in and creating a few objects um i may want to go in and start uh adding uh some additional components within here all right now if i want to go in and add some nozzles as you can see with this exchanger here um there are some nozzles attached to it but depending upon the manufacturer you may want to or may need to go in and add some additional nozzles within your design so if i come over to the tool palette um i want to go down to the fittings and we can see we got all kinds of things here i mentioned you can go down towards the bottom where we have our nozzles located at and i just want to go and place a single line nozzle and place it off of the top of my exchanger here so if i click and then i can basically move my rotation up there so that i have a nozzle extending out from that now to go in and start making a connection from there i want to go back to my tool palette and go to my lines now in this instance i want to go and use a primary line segment to go in and create my first line so if i go in and click on that and i bring my cursor over it will snap to the node of that nozzle so i go in and click to start my creation and you can see that it actually adds a little arrow designation so it shows the uh the flow direction uh for the uh the pipe that i'm creating and i'm just going to extend this over to my vessel here and watch what happens with the vessel uh it is set to automatically add a nozzle when you go in and add a line to that so that is something that you can customize within plant 3d to have it automatically do that and add that information in there now with that pipe that i just created i may want to go in and add some information to that so if i go and click on my pipe here and i'm going to right click on it i'm going to choose to assign a tag to that pipe so again with the assigned tag we have the pipeline segments and it's requiring me to put in four different designations here a size a spec a service and a line number all right so if i click on my size it's going to give me a drop down list and i can choose which size that i want here so i'm going to choose an eight inch size if i go to my spec now it's looking at the specs that i have within my project and a lot of specs within here you don't have to have this many specs in a project you can shorten that list if you want to but uh i'm going to use a just the top one here the cs150 uh the pipeline pipeline group service um i just want to designate this as just a general process again these can all be modified too as well so i'll just go down to p here for general process and i'm just going to put in the line number 1007 all right i'm going to click assign and i'll drop that designation in right above there now later on if you decide well i'm gonna i want that to be a six inch okay well we can just click on that we can assign tag again and we can go in and modify this in here so if i want that to be a six inch click assign then you can see it automatically updates that information uh within that tag there so again later on when you get into the plant 3d side and your plant 3d is going to be uh you know driven by your p id you can use the information that you've plugged in here and making sure that you're using a six inch uh type pipe to go from uh the exchanger to the vessel within there now i'm going to make another connection coming off the bottom of this one so uh go back to my primary line segment again i can just snap right onto this note here one that was already added into it and actually let me reverse that let me do pipeline segment from the vessel here a little bit different and i'm going to come down through [Music] the line that's already been created and come over here now if you watch what i'm doing here i'm going to start from here and you think okay what happens if i go over here it's going to be you know off target there but if i go and click on that node you can see it automatically corrects itself so you know in an autocad instance um typically use the the object tracking to line up those uh again utilizing the p and id lines are there's a little bit more intelligence added to those so it's easy to go in and add those you don't have to be totally accurate in trying to move it over there it just does that automatically for you when you go in and start snapping those objects in so um adding a couple other lines within here if i wanted to add another line coming off of this one um oh um one thing that we can do uh is if if i did come down off of the exchanger and to the vessel and i figure i'll shoot i wanted to do it the other way so i i came off the vessel and went to the exchanger um we do have the option here that we can go in and reverse the flow so we can click on that and we can change the flow direction that we've got set there so you don't have to go in and recreate something delete something on and and go in and re recreate it again you do have some schematic line edit options within here that you can go in and apply as well again reversing the flow you can add some breaks within there you can link it from one uh pipe designation to another option to go in and add some gaps within there if uh you're running a pipe behind an object you don't want to see the pipe going through it we can go in and add some gap lines in there you can see that it automatically added the gap where we got the one line uh showing there so another nice little feature uh designation with that um i'm gonna go ahead and add another one here to the uh to the pumps that we have here so i'm going to add a align off the bottom of our tank here and i might have to move my pumps down just a little bit so i'm just gonna use my autocad move tool so no no special tool uh for plant uh to move objects just using the regular autocad so again i'll use my uh primary line here i'm going to go ahead and connect to my pump over here you know bring this down again just kind of reiterate i'm going to move it offset there come down i'm going to let it snap but let it correct itself as it connects to that and if i want to go in and add another line and go ahead and connect to this pump i can just click off this one here and go in and make that connection to that pump so we got a little bit of intelligence uh going on there create some more lines coming off the top of there extend that out again just simply snapping to the objects there and uh you know it's adding the line work as we go you can see it added the gap space within there as well um if i want to go in and start adding maybe some bypass type lines uh we have that option as well uh that might be a secondary type line segment so it's going to give us a different call representation so if i wanted to create some kind of bypass beyond that pipe there i'd go in and create a bypass type line within here allows me to go in and you know possibly create some valves uh within my design uh if i'm going in and adding some valves i want to come down here to the valve tool and if i click on a gate valve and simply go in and place it within my design here you can see it automatically rotates and it put in a designation there for a hand valve just doesn't use it as uh hand valve uh 101 i'm going to place another one within here we've got 102 so it automatically is numbering those up and that again is something that can be modified with the way that you want it displayed again if you want a different designation for valves that is something that also can be modified to the way that you want now uh modifying lines that you go in and create if i simply click on a line you can grab onto a symbol there you can see that they do stay connected it is you know part of the pipe line string there i grab onto this one here you can see that it's still staying connected to that we have the option here that we can go in and disconnect you just simply drag that away from it and uh you know have an unconnected designation there um we have an option where we can go in and again drag that back down um you know add more lines to it so if i want to add an additional line segment to it i can connect to this guy maybe there we go get a little designation there line that up and got it connected back up again we do have some instrumentation lines but uh the key thing to remember is that uh you're not getting any type of electrical systems it's just again symbology type information so you have signal lines pneumatic hydraulic signal lines software type information uh again these are all different types of lines uh just right out of the box that you can have more controls and showing what is uh controlling what within a system uh take a look at let's see here some of the fittings that we have so if you're putting in some reducers uh again you want to go and designate your line work within here first so if i go back to this one here and we want to go in and assign the tag so this one we'll go at six inch for the spec we'll go with the cs 150 again we'll do the general process this one we'll call 1008 and go ahead and sign it and go in and place that tag there so when i move my cursor over a line it will give me the data related to that particular line you can see our primary line segment everything that i just entered it's telling me uh what that line is going from the tank 101 the pump 101b if i move my cursor down over this one here you can see that it is part of line 108 uh but we don't have a size or um some of the other information so you can see we got some question marks within there so if i wanted to uh assign a tag for this one again i would have to go ahead and plug some additional information in for this one so let's say this one you know went down to four inches and again we'll stick with the cs150 we want to assign that and i'm just going to drop this one in down below here so we can go in and move these tags as well turn off my ortho there and uh again we can go in and make changes as we go when i move my cursor or this one now you can see that we have the uh the up to date type information if we uh take a look at the data manager and see what we have so far uh this is basically everything that i've created within this p id if i go to heat exchangers you can see there's the the one heat exchanger i can go in and start typing in information here uh related to that uh exchanger and when i go in and add information within here i'm just throwing some random text there and i get out of that and i just simply go to the exchanger we can go to the properties of that pull that over here so you can see uh some of the data that is being plugged into [Music] the components that you have here so here's the the 101 designation let's see where is oh did that not fill out [Music] all right i thought i put it in there let me try that again all right let's click on that guy properties there we go i think i must have just clicked out of it to click there so i added the information into my data manager we can see that within the properties also if i just simply click on it go to my properties in here and you know type something different now i'm going to put in a model number here for this as well and we go back to the data manager uh you can see that information gets updated there as well so uh if we have any revit users online here um you know it's it's kind of kind of a parametric model similar to uh the way uh the way revit works so if you're adding some information into one location that is adding it in multiple locations within your design now we're kind of hitting on the hour mark here i kind of want to open it up if there's any questions um if you want to throw any questions in your into the q a um again this is uh supposed to be just a really quick introduction to the p id i don't expect everybody to be experts on p id there's a little bit of customization again that you need to do to make the p ids work best for you and your company but uh i think you can kind of see that uh if you have something set up p90s can actually be pretty useful and a lot easier to work with than just autocad type information again you can't really add the the line data into autocad line work like you can within p id line work so again adding information into the components that we have here um also uh we can go ahead and create custom components uh pretty easily within here as well so there's uh there's other items that i'd i'd love to talk about but uh again we're we're kind of short on time here maybe uh i'll uh do a little bit of a series here maybe we'll continue on with the the p ids if that is something that uh you guys would like to see in the future but um just checking to see if we have any questions from anybody i'm not seeing anything all right so i will uh we'll wrap this up here so uh again a few of the things we took a look at um in the user interface how to start a a p id went in and placed some equipment added some instrumentation lines did a little modification within the p ids so again just kind of raising the surface of what you can do with p90s but i think it's a very powerful option to have and for those that haven't experienced plant 3d yet it's easy way to to start jumping into that and using that information so i'd like to thank everybody for uh attending today i have my email address if you have any questions on plant 3d or or p ids in general uh please reach out to me uh if your company would like to uh explore p ids or plant 3d i am the uh the plant guy here at uh at atg to try to help you out and get you going in the right direction so again thank you very much and we'll see you next time you

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Length: 59min 53sec (3593 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 22 2021