Generations Episode 1- Mark Morgan, Jeff Morgan, Jonmarc morgan

I've always quoted that and heard that quoted so let not your heart be frayed if you believe in God but there's no effort there so it kind of changes the tone the text of what he was trying to tell his disciples he was saying there's gonna be a moment where things are gonna get very chaotic it's gonna get very dark you're not going to understand what's going on but at that precise moment you need to realize who you are your heart should not be troubled then he goes on to say in my father's house are many mansions he went away to prepare place so going back to what what Bishop said well ago about an awakening I think that is exactly what's going on right now that we the bride he is the groom he turns he is lifted to the heavens a sense the comforter but the comforter was only for a cease and it's only for a time until he comes back in his totality and his completion and to do that he's coming back to get a bride and so he leaves the bride in the hands of disciples or the ministry and I'm really headed somewhere with this with ministry and he tells the ministry and I say that with quotes take care of the bride prepare the bride I'm gonna give you Pauline epistles though Johanna and epistles Jew James 1st 2nd 3rd Peter all of it all this is for the bride getting them ready and so I think he went to heaven start up a building program and when he got it down he turned around he looked at the bride and realized she wasn't quite ready and that little space of grace that little bit of time I mean if I can say it this way however long it takes for her to walk in the door and walk up the aisle and meet him on the platform that's how long we've got in this season right now to get the church ready and I'm saying these words on purpose because I think it is the ministry's responsibility not to let the church go back to being normal to being status quo or stagnant we've got to stay alert and awake now or we go we're gonna miss it somebody has to do something this past week it wouldn't be the first time he rejected one people and went for another we don't have a market on this you know you just did you next something here I mean when you look around as the church number one is we have to get past ourselves I mean we have started looking outside and realizing all these people now we're seeing people hopeless they're looking you know so I think I think a part of that awakening we're talking about is we can't go back to where we are so inward focused or just about us or our church our services and all that I'm for at all I mean I'm not opposed that's a part of our culture part of what we are but I think what this is doing is kind of helping us look outside and realized I'm there's people out there man they you know if we're battling the spirit of fear in the church that we battle and imagine what the world's facing without God so one of the things that I would like to interject here Joe mark do you have something you'd like to say I just kind of go on what they said just now I mean it's time for awakening about two months ago before all that started happening God started showing me some stuff in Revelation with about the garden and where the church is at last last week he kind of put it in my heart where he said remember the dream that I gave you back in January I mean you've talked with us Dillon when he told me this past week in prayer he said that's where you guys are at and then in the garden he can look at it he's trying to teach the church disciples two things how to pray and how to sacrifice because he tells God let this cut pastor me he says if if this is what I'm meant to do then I will do it but if not let it pass and he's teaching them to pray but they fall asleep and they rise up when trouble gets there when they go take Jesus captive and Jesus beginning to tell me the church is in the garden and the only way that you're gonna see the Destiny Fulfilled like me to Calvary is you have to learn how to sacrifice um how to pray the way I did in the garden that's that's really good one of the things that that I'd like to ask is the eleventh hour worker that that that last push do you feel that this is the season where God is really calling the 11th hour worker to step forward into the harvest to go forward in this season and to do what they're called to do and the second point to that is do we have to watch ourselves to not get jealous of these workers that are going to start coming in great harvest that's starting to happen I've seen some posts just recently where an evangelist stood up in front of a camera preached and recorded 360 something people receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost so this is something I wanted to do you feel like this is the season of the eleventh hour' worker whoever wants to take that look let me let me just go where angels fear to trial here and then I'll I'll tee off and let let Bishop Hamlet from there I think we have to be careful in this eleventh hour that we're not so holy ghost' hungry seekers where we're looking for numbers and we're missing what Jesus taught us when he said my sheep know my voice I am known of them and they are known as me they will not hear a stranger the Holy Ghost is a starting point not an ending point and I think that's one of our issues we put such a premium on somebody hid in the Holy Ghost but that's just that's just birthing something that's the beginning of something so let me put a comma there and go to something I think the Lord just showed them for the first time and there may be everybody else in the world of Pentecost may have seen this but I didn't until this week but David you know yet yeah the tabernacle of Moses tabernacle of Solomon yet you get vernacular baby you got those three and Jesus said I'm gonna come back and rebuild David's part so I've always been a little fascinated wine why David and there's a whole lot we talk about that but I found that the first time that David tried to bring the ark back the glory where where everything originated from everything that that blue haze that glory I remember as a kid hearing in the Bootheel can't the blue haze that settle down old folk talking about a blue haze well that's that's what that's what was on that arm that's what David was hungry for and so baby gets the throne and the first thing he does is he tries to bring the art in and I first time I've ever seen this the Bible says he put it on a cart driven by oxen and that idea came from the Philistines we understand that but the thing the Lord showed me and I talked about it Wednesday night for our church was that David put that Ark on a new car pulled with oxen and then he said in front of the artpool with oxen he put players and the word there in second Kings our second Samuel six and five his players and they played the cornet they played wind instrument cymbals they had a live band and they tried to program and they tried to make it so professional of bringing this glory back that Aza when the oxen stumbled touched it and we're all from here the story but when us who touched the stumbled oxen who shook the card him in his innocent tried to stabilize it God kill me it's so staggered David that he went back and reexamine how to get the glory that and it was there that he found out those stays have to be in the ringless on the side of the ark and those staves must be borne on the shoulders of the priests and it was there that David got in front now Michael says he danced naked and I think we all agree that he took off his royal robes and put on that of an e5 but the only thing now in front of the glory of God was a man that was willing to walk six paces slay an oxen and dance and worship with all his mind and and Dillon he went for 15 miles that way every six paces he sacrificed and he worshiped that's what brought the divine miraculous power of God back to where it belongs so I think in this hour what we are doing and have done is we have professionalized let me use the biblical word we have put players in front of the glory of God and God's not happy with that and I think that we're realizing we don't need that we're having better Church in our living rooms we're having better Church in our cars we're seeing more results right now without any of that so I think in this hour what God's trying to do is show us the only thing that should be proceeding that Ark is the ministry he's so hungry that they would walk six paces have a sacrifice dance with all their might can you imagine what David looked like by the time he got to Jerusalem a time he got to the city after 15 miles every six paces making a sacrifice this thing is supposed to cost the ministry this thing is not supposed to be carried lightly it's not supposed to be carried casually and I know I'm preaching a little bit taking way too much time and so I'm gonna hit the pause button and let my brother and nephew there but I feel this deep in my spirit I think this is exactly what God is doing in this hour so if I could just kind of bring us a brief synopsis what you're saying you really feel like God is bringing us back to the simplicity that is our walk with Him he doesn't need help he doesn't need additives he doesn't need professionalism in the body yes we're supposed to be decently in order yes we're supposed to do things as as great as we can but at the end of the day God's been God for a long time and he doesn't necessarily need our help so he's done leader help he he wants to incorporate us he invites us to help him build the bride that's always been God's intent and plan but it's the dream that Mark had the graveyard shoulders we we have a form of godliness but some we're denying the power they're supposed to be miracles signs and wonders in every service not just a camp meeting when you get the right preacher you have the right prayer line we are opposed to be a Church of power of Dominion of authority not some figure in a cemetery looking at something that was we're supposed to be alive and I think we've seen such a revival of professionalism we time everything and this is my lollipop and you may need to stop me here a mark can stop me here we week we time everything music's got a time limit we streamline everything you can only preach 23 and a half minutes we're gonna start at 11:00 be number 12 you you don't find that in the Bible that's not a biblical concept and that's what God David in trouble is when he looked at Egypt and said they can have the ark on a cart so can we and we will make it so professional as we usher this in will wow the people it got him in trouble and so so it wasn't a pretty sight when they got to the City of God it was the most ugly bloody gory mess and David led the way but guess what filled the temple guess what filled the tabernacle guess what he ushered in there was a restoration let me just use the phrase of the blue haze that is what I'm desperately hungry for and I think that's what God is creating in your generation in John Mark in in my life that's that's what pandemic is done to me it's brought me back to eliminating the junk that is not necessary and going back to learning how to hear his voice and usher his presence in so he is glorified that's great so within a Uncle Mark Tremonti you guys have anything you want to add before I go to my next question no I think he covered it it's just it's I just have one statement what is it about what did the enemy have to do in the garden to get Eve to take the bite is she had to he had to make it look appealing Pleasant hmm so what is it about the gospel that we think it won't work unless we make it Pleasant you know I mean I'm not for beating people up and being mean any of that I mean my lord have preached all over the world as an evangelist but the deal is is you know I think that the gospel needs to speak for itself and you know back to the 11th hour worker tildes briefly they're coming they won't they're not gonna work we have to be especially careful that we don't become jealous of them that you know they're not gonna have the time to mature and to grow if if if it happens the way we think it's going to happen so that's my take on it is we're just gonna have to accept it but back to the deal is we we need the simplicity that's what Paul said don't don't don't let the same surface that beguiled Eve to the simplicity that's in Christ so we don't need to be beguiled or deceived just to stay to the simple I'm done so we just had a question come in and I actually want to ask this question is gonna save this for the end but I feel that it's very pertinent for right now it says do you all feel that we are at the place where the light and then he starts quoting the first chapter of John that was the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world do you feel now do you feel that this is that season that that true light is being elevated I believe that's what the question is you just mics muted sorry can you hear me yeah okay I mean mark I did I I think that's what this whole I think that's what God is doing with this pandemic I mean we're finding out now if we believe the news that this was intentional this wasn't an accident that this this very well could have been leaked on purpose well nothing gets by god and so yeah I think the 11th this this moment is the exalting of the true line but marks preached that I've preached it everybody listings probably preached it you don't have to be careful because there's angels of light the the deceiver comes as an angel of light so we're not just looking for light we're looking for that proper light we're looking for the alignment of scripture that Jesus said as Jesus said it and that that's what's bothering me I mean we can program we can we can organize there's nothing wrong with that i mean i i've watched my brother's livestream I love his background I love the mic I love the look and I'm humming for all of that stuff why not what's bothering me in this kind of the last year or two maybe three years is how nonchalant how casual we are when it comes to the priest when it comes to the spoken or the oral part of the word of God nobody cares anymore that's lost its its power and we spend more time entertaining people with gizmos and gadgets and we have aborted and negated the power of that light and if there is to be eleventh-hour worker there's got to be a feel for them to work in does that make sense yes sir that makes perfect sense uncle mark do you have something you would like chime in with I saw you leaning forward what was the original question I'm not necessarily asking about that about the light Mike doing this question came this this question came from brother Mies he said that do you feel that this is the season where that true light from John chapter one is being elevated that we are we are experiencing the elevation of that true what that one and true light Jesus oh yeah definitely but what you got to remember is the world gets darker the more the light is gonna reveal and illuminate and stuff so there's a lot of darkness out there the deal is is it's just like Goshen I mean the Bible said the darkness was a darkness they could feel but it also says that the light was in there in their dwelling in Goshen it was in their dwellings that's us you know so I think that yes and we've got to remember that at the end of all of it there shall be light in the evening time so I think that God is doing what he needs to do with us right now to elevate us to be what we're really supposed to be and to be the one God covenant people place where we're placed to show the world what the people of God really are to be what they look like I mean it's just like God placing them where he placed them in Canaan why because he wanted he wanted them to influence the world he brings a bring them into it so you know oh why that particular little piece of property you know take the Jews and move them to West Texas there's plenty of property out there up in Alaska or somewhere but this is the Promised Land this is where God sent them and the deal is he put them there because this is where the the trade routes were this is where the world passed through and so the world is busy right now there's a lot of there's a lot transition there's a lot of movement in the path of life right now so now's not the time for the Apostolic stew try to want to be relevant or look like everybody else God placed us where he placed us so that his glory his temple people could see one god what a covenant person looked like that one God was and so yeah I believe that all this is happening that there'll be a greater revelation in the evening time there shall be light I think we're gonna see that but I just believe that through what's happening the true is gonna surface and you know there's a lot of other other people if they don't do it they're just gonna rot back to sleep they're gonna pass by the way and but God's raising up a remnant right now that I believe very strong are going to impact the world on a waste never back let me let me ask you a question Dan's on the bed hon percent agree could it be that that the light not only illuminates or shines in the world that shows the darkness that is there but also that that light shines in the church to show the church some dark places that were hiding some stuff and he's working on getting us I mean would you not talk I think last week on when he said without spot or without blemish or any such thing so so there is some intentional things he's going to do to the bride before he comes to get the bride and if we have time I'd really like for you to comment on those things about the preparation for the bride because I think I think he went to build a place he said when it's ready I'm gonna come get you revelation 22:17 says and the spirit and the bride say come so but time he leaves and when the when the when the ecclesia is called out 22:17 of Revelation there's a building program of where we will abide and there's a building program of us in this prison world and that some I'm gonna use a crazy word or some magic moment when we will Harold with harmony the call of come Lord Jesus at the same time he's going to say blow the trumpet does that make sense yeah it makes yeah definitely I think what I think really a lot of pounding right now I think it what would now I don't remember the exact wording of it but it's blemish about the garment and it's ring yellow that was it was a word wrinkle in there mm-hmm okay I think that's what we were talking about the other day so the deal is I think he's turning the light on in the church and that's what I think a lot of this is against causing things to surface we're not supposed to be fearful but this causes this to surface to where we have to look at it and okay do we really believe what we've been saying or is it just good preaching or just good encouragement for a while do we really believe the Word of God do we really believe that God's will take us through this so I think that he's turning the light on I think there's illumination to the world I think there's also to the church I think in that time in this time period it's about you know the wilderness is about self revelation when you go through the wilderness it's not about revelation of God it's about self preservation it's God showing you yourself so I think well I the stuff that's gone people are starting to realize hey you know what I you know I maybe I didn't believe what I said I did so now we got it as proverbial stay we've got to put her money where her mouth is but then another part of the garment that we talked about was without wrinkle which you know I don't know how else you just you set on your clothes you wrinkle them so he's coming back after church that's that is it's looking inward as far as the blemishes the things that he wants to work but at the same time we're busy we're busy people this is this is it I mean this is what I really believe that gusts doing his best to bring us to where you know I mean the world needs us now that's the best thing I can say but it doesn't need us in our professionalism it needs us to be real it needs us to be honest and open and and let the love of God and let God shine through all this where it's not just to professionalism or just a bunch of we're we're just entertaining people there that's not gonna work that's just not gonna work anymore that the whole entertaining deal there's just too much going on the spirit so anyway I've said enough so I'll stop you know this is exactly what I wanted from this it was never just about what what questions I have written down I want us just flow in the Holy Ghost and do what we feel so don't feel like that anything is too long or anything it's perfect one of the things I'd like to link on to what we've just been discussing is this do you feel like that the church in this season do you feel like that we are handling and/or taking on this responsibility the right way or better ask is probably phrasing it like this in your opinion are there things that we should be doing are there things that that we should be trying to value as more important than other things right now as the Apostolic Church but me let me let me kind of go off that a little bit first of all I think what God is trying to do is is number one is out of our comfort as far as prayerlessness being entertained that's not just in the church just a lot of stuff I mean I've you know I look at your generation the generation coming on there's so much stuff that you guys gonna have to contend with as far as entertainment that we didn't have I mean we do now but we'd have to deal with years ago you know but so I I see a lot of that and I think that the Holy Ghost really is trying to get us to reconnect with him you know loneliness is a gift everybody's fussing about you know I'm shut-in I can't do anything well y-you know we're Bob blame the government for it I think a lot of this is you know I mean Moses was out there on the backside of a wilderness so you know as long as we're hanging out the crowd and fellowship and join life and everything's good and we're trying to impress each other but then all of a sudden boom and so the Holy Ghost said okay I've got you kind of isolated here a little bit not not for you to be fearful but to look at yourself to see the things in you that you need to deal with in the same time to connect with me and let me give you revelation understanding and develop that real relationship with him I mean I'm just telling you right now I'll say it but going across this fellowship most of our people we have fellowship at church we have a social fellowship our culture but a real fellowship with him that's that's a different story you know let me let me kind of segue here just a second want one of the preliminary questions that you know we was about prayer you know you know I think sometimes we're not careful we make prayers so it's it's it's not a relationship with God should be on a friendship basis now I don't mean a lack of respect but he should be our friend not our employer okay meaning it's the parable of the elder brother you know all these years of I serve thee you never killed me a fatted calf so I've prayed this amount of time I've done this and I've done that and and the father was so shocked by it all this time it all belongs to you so the boy was missing what a real relationship was supposed to be about he missed it it wasn't about I'm serving you and if I do this this this and this you owe me something you owe me a miracle you owe me a revival you owe me a ministry if that's not what he wants sister señal I begged her to tell me how she developed her prayer life first of all she said I I'm just I don't wanna talk about it that's very personal finally through a situation she she told me she said you know I was lonely British and all two took a job we live way out in the country for the snows took a job in town you ten minutes shared the screen door open coming down the hallway she turned thinking brother Snowden come home but it wasn't him she watched as a kitchen as a chair pulled back from the kitchen table and a voice spoke and said sit down Marilyn I get lonely to talk to people too so I think sometimes God has to kind of isolate us so we can get us in a place to where we can have a real relationship with him but you know what the first thing is we got to get past all of our fears but he's God trying to hurt me it's got no no he's just trying to get us in a position or a place to where we can understand in prayer listen sometimes the best prayer I've ever done was this you're ready for it help me Jesus that's all I knew to say but I'm not talking to my employer I'm talking to my friend I'm talking to my Savior and so I think it's very important for us that we don't complicate all this stuff we don't make it so hard you know what am I supposed to do next no I mean it's like okay Dylan it's like you and your dad having a conversation I mean you don't go in there and say blessed Holy Father you know but you go into a conversation because he's not only just your father he's also a friend and so you talk now a father will correction you know and all that but I'm not trying to get us around that but the deal is is it's about that relationship and I think that's where God's really trying to get the church to right now so all right I've said enough sorry wow that's so rich that's so good daddy I saw you leaning forward I think you're just a minute yourself do something you want to chime in with here yeah yeah I mean what he just said I couldn't agree with more if you could do a thousand percent that's how much I would agree with I I think I I grew up my generation grew up with the PSR group with the accountability group with you better have somebody hold yourself accountable you you know you need to peer and I'm for that I think everybody needs accountability but I think I think you also need editability I think you need a Nathan in your life that can walk in and point your finger at you and say you're the man and you need to stop that so you need accountability but you also need edit ability so let me just let me just tag on to what Mark just said about father-son relationship in prayer I think that was one of our questions for tonight is I I'm all for prayer I'll offer intercessory prayer I'm from the Wailing I'm for the moaning - groaning the tears all of that is necessary we are taught that that is part of when you pray to a certain point in the spirit the Spirit will help us because we don't know what to say but the Bible also says that our relationship with God is mirrored as a husband and wife we were outside today and done some yard work and I was blessed to have two of my boys with me for a few hours and we agreed that what we were going to do and then we were all busy doing the task and it did not require lots of communication sometimes it was just a nod or a point or way and you could communicate because we had agreed at a previous time on a certain thing and then we worked in harmony and it didn't take a whole lot of communication and I think that we have talked prayer only one dimension only one way that the only time you can really touch God is is in a dark room with just you and Jesus and you're screaming your lungs out and you've cried until there's no more tears but it ought to be if I'm understanding what Mark said well ago and if I'm if I'm right if I'm wrong somebody correct me that when I know the task when I know what the objective is I should be in such fellowship with him that he does not require screaming at me seven hours out of each day that sometimes a glance sometimes just a wave sometimes got taken care of because I know what you want me to do I am called for this moment let me let me let me say this I if I could say if I could say one thing to every now that I'm 51 everybody I can say all the young preachers now if I can say one thing to the generation under me I would say do what the Shuma night woman did proceed get spiritual discernment seek the gifts of the Spirit and fine-tune discernment where you don't have to have somebody telling you that's good that's bad that's right that's wrong that the spirit that is in us that light that reveals that Shina that in the heart of every man it'll start showing you things when that woman saw Elijah walk past she turned to her husband and she says I perceive that that is a holy man of God and look what she did son she's built a place for him she didn't talk to him she'd never had a conversation we think not according to Scripture but she perceived that he was an anointed man and she desired that and the Bible says let us make him a room and let's put a table and let's put a candle let's put some Wi-Fi let's get laptop let's make it where he would want to come here and the Bible then says the next verse that he likes chicane and turned in to that room and spent time there now the rest of the story is he gave her a wish list and she said I I don't I don't need anything I'm blessed and it was gay he's out it said she doesn't have a child and so he promised the child she had a baby the baby dies and then when that baby dies she picks that promise up she picked the pandemic ax she picked her crisis up she picked her dilemma up and took it to the bed of the Prophet she said I'm not owning this I didn't ask for this all I did is deserve so this is she was your issue God then she turned to her husband said I'm gonna find the man of God and dill and her husband chuckled and said you don't even know where he is it's not a New Moon and it's not the Sabbath how are you gonna find me and she said that's not the problem and the Bible says she saddled quickly and took a servant and rent and knew exactly where he was so how did she know where he was because she had fine-tuned spiritual discernment she knew what to build when to build where to go and what to do in 2020 as this pandemic shakes the world if we will seek Him build him a place prepare get ready for this I I got a feeling when we kick our church doors open we're going to be overwhelmed with people seeking something genuine and brother we better have some power to know where to take dead babies and put them on the beds of something that has potential to bring a life back and it all started with her discerning and then preparing a place if we don't start preparing for these things it ain't will happen wow that's so good one of the things that came to my mind just to kind of add to that and it's just gonna form another question if somebody wants to take it and run with it the Bible says that when Elijah and Elijah had their first encounter that it was all about he passed him by and he just brushed him with the mantle he didn't stop he didn't prompt him he didn't talk to him but the Bible actually says he just passed by him and the mantle just kind of brushed him and then Elijah got up and followed so I think you know one of the things that I've heard said is that when Jesus appeared were having their conversation it was my sheep know my voice we've got to get to a point of sensitivity where it's not always in the earthquake it's not always in the fire but I think that you know and this is what I want to know do we have to get to the place is that what God is trying to do right now to where when we get out of this he just brushes us and that discernment is tuned in our relationship we built that friendship with him Uncle Mark dad our relationship is so tuned in with him that that it doesn't take the earthquake in the fire but our discernment is key to him to where me and John Mark the next generation we we feel the brushing by a powerful men of God or just the presence of God and we say he has something for me or there's something there is that something that God's trying to buried in this in this time maybe say something here just may be off I'm not I'm trying to stay on track with you here generals don't strange they know their authority they know their power they don't have stream sergeants that's different story that's the story boot camp that's different story and I think what guys trying to do is get us to the point where in that relationship that he's moving the church to that we need to take our positions with that authority and let it work you know here's what I've said about this deal you know in streaming our services now I've said well I guess we're down now to just understanding that's gonna miss spot I guess we're down now to happen to trust the power of the word because we don't have that emotional reser you go we don't have all that other there let go now it's just the word of them go and you know that's that's where it's at so I think that God's trying to bring us to the point to where we were we understand you know we don't have to scream this is still small voice and anyway and he was locked in a cave by himself when he got it yo Murr you're hanging in over there so this next question is actually for John Mark I'm gonna kind of redirect us here and try to get back on track with our points for just a moment this has been so great but we've had some questions coming from some viewers over the last few days and then I there's been some few a few that have chimed in live and I want to thank everybody for joining and we're just going to continue for a few more moments juh mark i'm gonna direct this first question towards you this was asked by noah curry down here in Bellevue Florida he wanted to know what is some spiritual advice that you could give to young people during this pandemic he was really directing it towards our generation John Mark and won't know how you felt about that well first and foremost you know our generation like they said earlier is up against a lot of battles you know we got Hollywood we got social media we got sports I'm not saying a lot that's wrong but just during this time if you look we're supposed to succeed our elders and get to a point where what they have they pass to us you know when Joshua takes the land he goes straight forward and takes the land he don't look over his shoulders he don't look back behind him to see and wait for you know the approval of others he's got a mission and he does he he's not getting sidetracked for what's around him he's looking at the field in front of them and right now this pandemic you know it's sad to say but there's gonna be young people that don't give it their all and end up in a dark darker place when they come out of this but during this time I truly believe we have to stay on course with getting a hold of God and asking God like they said earlier we have a lonely season low and this is a gift and right now if we can just get a hold of God and say God there's no distraction in the world right now I mean there's nothing going on other than being with your family and and being around the ones you love but the same time we have to draw back to that first love - and say God I'm not looking over my shoulders I want to be I want something apart of them to me where I can take this field where I can help with whatever my pastors calling or whatever whatever my youth pastor is calling or whatever my my bishop you know whoever would whatever your church is under I want to be used to help reach to lost in my city and only we're gonna do that is just turn off the distractions and find that one-on-one time not where we go in back to what they're saying earlier about prayer but not where we go in and we beat we beat our bodies up with screaming like a G you know in spiritual warfare but where it's just that calm you know where it's that still small voice because that's truly we're gonna hear his plan for us but if I could just say that just we gotta get rid of distractions we got to stay focused at and then I want to ask this for everybody and this is just a question from dillio it marketed yes sir let me just make one comment here I agree with what John Mark just said it's about you know your generation you guys just got to get tuned in and focused and moved but back to the still small voice the Bible says that God came in that when the earthquake fire whatever well that's Mount Sinai so what he's trying to tell them is is I've already come in the law nice kill him now he's dealing with prophets and with prophets and the prophetic it's not about to win the earthquake and the fire that's the Mount Sinai that's the law now it's about us hearing his voice and that's what we need more right now than we've ever needed before that's what your dad was saying earlier was this discretion or discernment is the ability to be in that cave and it not be this shattering something but that still small voice and that still small voice was very clear I want you to go down I want you to anoint Jehu and whoever else because you're about to see a double portion generation and I think that that's kind of where it's going with your generation and John marks and all that I see you guys if you guys will stay committed and stay focused and and and can I just say this get out of the shallow end of the pool get some depth in the spirit okay and then because you got asked you know you're supposed to be the ones that have a double portion in a line with that story which I believe and that God wants to visit you all with great grace so this is what we're at you know we've had the thundering of the law but now we're coming down to a point I think right now to where God's saying it's the prophetic is gonna operate that's gonna operate by the still small voice and that's so great dad you have something you want to add to that let me unmute you real quick go ahead okay I want to tag going to what what Mark just said now I'm gonna open up a can of worms and I don't I don't know where this is gonna end so open it up that's what this is oh good so when Paul wrote he wrote to the church and he says for he's given us some gifts and we call it the fivefold ministry and we hear so much about the fivefold ministry now let me put it let me put a comma and then I'm gonna segue remember what what you know mark just said but your generation and double portion generation and being a little bit different now let me go back and he gave gifts and he said there's five of them there's a pastor and possible teacher apostle and prophet did I get him all right okay there's five of them and he gave these gifts for the perfecting of the church and the edifying of the ministry I'm right so far okay that's as far as we ever take that burbs that's as far as we ever teach that got fivefold it's for the building of the church for the edifying in the ministry but there is a comma and then the next statement in any of the next verse it says until we all come to the unity of the faith so I I don't know how to explain this I know what I think I know what I feel but at some point in time before the rapture takes place the bride is going to get so in tune and in love with her groom who she has a spouse herself to that even the role of the fivefold ministry becomes now don't don't take this out of context but becomes secondary to the place and position of authority and power that the church is in because it's very clear this is till we get to a particular place or time then something supernatural is going to happen to the bride to the church at the last hour I think that's what your generation I think that's what John Mark and you guys that's what God is positioning you for now I'm not saying you're gonna do away with fivefold ministry I don't know how that's gonna work in harmony but it does say until we all come to the unity of the faith so there is something supernatural at work in this moment and God is using this moment of social distancing to prepare if we discern if we're hungry if he can speak to us as Mark said in a still small voice no more thundering no more likely no more earthquakes I just want to set across from you and say this is for the next year this is realm we'll take my church and if you don't hear me right now you'll never hear me again I will walk away from you and you'll never know I've left you and that's what I don't say the word scare that's what concerns me that I cannot let the church that I pastor go back into any type of normality or mundane normal way we used to do it it can't happen God's not going judge the body as harsh as he's going judge the under shepherds and if us under shepherds don't proceed this moment there's calamity coming so that leads me into a great segue into my next question and this is something that I just wanted to ask I heard somebody say something that after 9/11 that our churches were full for two or three weeks and things just went back to normal so this is something that I'm really interested in in in understanding what are things that not just mine and John Mark's generation but to the under Shepherd to the pastor to the Evangelist to the missionary to everybody that that is active in this thing what are things that we can do right now to ensure that when we get back to the new normal I don't ever want to go back to normal but when we get back to the new normal what are things that we can do that we don't miss like it went back to normal as I said and I'm not trying to make light of that day nothing like that but at when I heard that it bothered me because that was something that shook our nation that was something that shook our world so here we are again something is shaking our nation something is shaking our world but we cannot allow when we get back in here as you just so perfectly put that we can't allow ourselves to get back to what normal was so what do we need to do to instill that we don't ever get back to that place of the old normal we go to the new normal we go to what God is doing in the church but me let me just tell you what I think about all this 9/11 was horrible I mean we're you know there's family still I mean it's just bad situation but it was not a global I mean it involved other parts of the world but it wasn't a global pandemic and also it didn't bring the world to the brink of a financial collapse so I think the difference is I mean it was another sign but I think this is a sign to us of how fast things can happen and that this is a step toward globalization it's a step toward a system and so you know after 9/11 we kind of rested to the fact of well you know our military is dealing with it we're gonna hunt down the people that did this we're gonna make them pay but with this I mean it's just it's such an impact right now with the world that you know if if anybody can go back to sleep after this I don't I mean what will it take you know what really what were it so I don't see us ever going back some what was someone trying that's just human nature some will try but I think most people there realize that you know and we've been preaching about this stuff for years and this this can happen really fast so anyway that's my thought on it that's great dad I'm gonna meet you I saw you hand go up yeah so I agree 100 said this is a global thing 9/11 we we had an enemy we could see Osama bin Laden a terrorist network and we hit him with a vengeance 19 years later we're still fighting it if you've listened to the president he keeps saying the unseen enemy the unseen enemy and if you've been paying close attention you've seen Bill Gates's Foundation has come to the forefront his number-one target right now ok June was supposed to be in Fiji August was supposed to be in India and then shortly after that Bangladesh and then Ben Lenoir and in Malaysia and in the Philippines this year between now and December 31st if Bill Gates has his way and if our government has their way there you will not be allowed to travel from a country to a country and I quote without an electronic bracelet they're hoping to be able to put that electronic bracelet on a page in your passport but Bill Gates says if you lose your passport you will not be able to enter in or back into your country so his suggestion was a chip all your medical records all your NOC you lations all your shot records on a chip that's where we're headed well mark we've been hearing that since the Bootheel of Missouri ok so this is a different fight this is a different you don't have a face on this one and it is a world why it's changed everything there will be no more global travel until we figure out how to identify those leading one country going into another country so and then I go back to what I said while ago it is the Shepherd's job to make sure and I'm taking this personally it's our job to make sure we don't let our people go back into it you can't make people prey but if we'll prepare a place I think God will turn into us Moses and the bush the Schumann ah woman there's many many references if we are truly hungry for his presence he he wants to spend more time with us than we want to spend with him it was him that went hunting Adam Adam never hunted him acted sin well I'm getting a lot of great feedback already and I know we've been here doing about an hour you got something you want to add just just you guys Jeff we're just saying revelations it I mean it is an unseen beast it is something that were there's no there's no face on this enemy and we know where it's headed but if you look in Revelation says that the kingdoms will make war they will put their peace and unity to make war against the bride and the land but he's gonna overcome them and that's been a prayer that's been gone on mind this is what this is what's sitting up for these these these high-powered rulers and kingdoms all over the place you know we might not see them as as a president and stuff like that but they are have high power just as much power as that position that we don't know about and they're turning that power and they're turning their systems and they're they're putting it towards all putting it under one for the Beast to make war against the bride and we're seeing a little piece of it right now I don't think we're fully at that place where it's gonna just happen tomorrow but we're getting to that point and eventually they're gonna realize it and it'll all come together come together to make war against the bride but like the Word of God says he's gonna overcome so at the end of this hour pastors I mean I understand that everyone's at a loss you know everyone doesn't know what to do right now I mean this is just crazy it's it's insane that where we live in but in the end we're gonna be victorious so we just have to get through this night season get through this dark time and just realize that he's already he already holds the keys to everything he has the victory and that's jean-marc you you froze honest there towards the very end yes that's great and before I open this up to the people that are participating on this right now for them to ask a few questions I would like to ask this question and and direct it toward my dad my uncle mark I'm mark of course and that is in this season - the Evangelist - the missionary - the person who who you know doesn't have necessarily a a specific flock to be shepherding as you guys have been speaking about what is the advice that you would give to the full-time evangelist right now as a pastor what is the advice you would give to the missionary right now who is in those countries who's worried about getting home or to the missionary that's here in America saying man I there's no telling when I'm gonna be able to get back to my field of labor what is some advice that you could be giving to them right now to encourage them to uplift them to equip them in this season - the Evangelist - the missionary - somebody who doesn't have their Shepherd their flock here alright I'll start I think a lot of this is to make us more effective so we're just gonna have to adjust vans it's gonna have to adjust missionaries pastors churches all of us we're just gonna have to adjust and and back to this deal and seek God have him give us some wisdom on ok I won't be able to maybe do this so what now is it that you are if he's closing the door over here what we need to start doing is looking around for a door opening you know who in the world would have thought this time last year we'd be doing what we're doing right now but what happens is is because of the situation it's moving us to where okay we got it we gotta make the adjustments and I think that I don't think there's a clear answer for all this I think it's just you know what we're gonna make the adjustments I think it's a matter of seeking God again I mean it's a simple answer for me is you know just we we have to seek Him so ok you know and I don't want to preach sermon but ok God you went to messing with saw stuff you took the donkey's away because you had to get him to the king and so that's kind of war at God's masters with our stuff but he's trying to get us to discover the kingdom saw they want to be king he won't go back to farming the guy said nope so so I think that's a lot of what's happening into the evangelists and missionaries and all I want to encourage you you know what God's God's got this now you may bring you to a different way of doing things or ministry or whatever but you know it's expanding I mean we've got more preaching going on right now in the world online that we I mean there's probably more preaching going on the last month and there has in the last 100 years I think so I mean you know we didn't see this but I guarantee if the Apostle Paul was alive he would already been all over the internet but own King says that at the beginning of it all you know and in the book of Acts everybody was a preacher and I think we're seeing that to light right now I think everybody's becoming a preacher and we're seeing people get on Facebook Instagram I've got friends that have started daily prayer on Instagram and they don't they're just getting on there with some friends and they're all praying together and like like just to kind of you know go off with brother Stone King said everybody's a preacher and and I think we're seeing that right now everybody's spread in this gospel dad I saw you raise your hand you're something you'd like to add into this just just a short comment if you go back to your question there should be no panic that's what John 14 starts with your heart should not be troubled you believe in God he sets the tone so missionaries evangelists Oh what are we gonna do if we have prepared a place for him that baby that died she knew exactly where to Tenakee that there was no fear in her life there was no oh my god what do I do she picked up the body of a dead promise of her ministry and took it to the bed yeah and said I I know God's got a plan and when the Prophet said how's the baby she said oh he's fine only to find out the next verse by the way he's dead and he's in your bed and that's where missionaries and evangelists the fivefold ministry in general we need to realize this is not our issue unless we this is Ron we'll get in trouble so nobody blame my brother for this or nobody blame my nephew or my son for this okay this is just me the guys that should be worried are the pastors that have used their churches to build retirement funds the guys should be worried the ministry the fivefold medicine should be worried is when they've not been in their foreign fields doing what they were called to do is when they've used God's people for means to an end those are the guys that should be worried those are the ministries that should be worried right now because they have no place they didn't prepare a place guys that have sought God guys that are in tune are kind of kicked back in spiritual recliners saying where do you want me to go next hi how are you moving because wherever you go I'm gonna follow and God's going this gospel is gonna go to the world it's gonna go to the four corners with me or without me but it's going to go here's what I want to say whenever the doors of our churches are open I won't want an evangelist that will only come in and preach 23 minutes I don't want a missionary that will only come and throw his slides on a wall and to get 3p im's those days are over I want somebody that can come in that head can hear from God and can take those people into the presence of God with a divine word from the spirit that's just me I'm gonna get in trouble well it's a good thing that I get to run this one because I won't get you in trouble I think that goes the other way around I don't think I'm allowed to correct you anyway so that's a good thing so to all of our viewers right now we're gonna start winding this thing down if you want to ask some questions there is a question portion of this in the chat where you can ask questions go ahead and start sending those in as we start to wind this down one question coming and I'm probably gonna butch your name if I do I'm sorry it's out of back well I think I think you know the Bagwell's pretty well this family does one of the questions that we have is this in today's time do you think that God could be looking for an Abraham or Moses to stand and intercede for our cities and nations and then this is kind of the the continuation can we have that kind of influence with God that he may stay his hand somebody want to take that one I I think it's possible God may raise people up I think there's probably already people there we probably don't even know who they are you know I think we're gonna have to be careful that we don't perceive this stuff and want this stuff for self elevation or recognition or whatever so but I know people right now that that intercede daily for the nation in the world of stuff and also now in the end time it's all unfolding I think that they'll probably be some things that come to the forefront you know we do know in the end time we got two prophets laying in the street you know so there is gonna be a revival of some of these things so yeah I think that there's possibility probably already there you know but that's a call you can't just say I'm gonna go do this I mean first of all you're gonna get yourself in trouble I think it locked up it'll catch up here in a second you're there there you are yeah I think what's gonna say is it has to be a call you just can't go do this if you do you're getting in the air you shouldn't be in you're gonna take hits for it so I think that if God calls you to do that yes there's possibility and probably will be more as there already are people that's great thank you and then John mark this question was also directed towards you and it was asking this question in your opinion what is one thing you see that our generation needs to approve improve on I'll give you two two things here commitment and sacrifice our generation kind of has it made I think a lot of people haven't made easy luxuries of life good to go here get go there and but if you I was lucky unfortunate enough to be able to hear stories from my dad and other elders and the one story that kinda sticks out to me is but the Kilgore every summer I mean he would climb in the church addict in Houston Texas with the heat and lock himself in there and just pray to God and he said I wouldn't leave until I felt something break that's commitment and I know in those moments in that spot you know without a doubt that God was asking for things God was saying can you give me this you know kid I wasn't there but I can reassure you probably that God was he was putting some stuff on that altar and if you look at his ministry it reached and affected thousands of people if not more and I think for us if we can get to where our elders have gotten to I've seen my parents do up see my uncle I've seen other people do it and we can get to that point where we're committed to this not I'm gonna go pray 15 minutes today and then go out and hang up my friends know it's it's gonna be a hunger it's got to be a commitment something that we we look forward to doing something that we're gonna go say god this is me this is our time I'm gonna pray I'm gonna I'm committing this this moment for you to you and then it would end that season also that sacrifice because there's new things or God's gonna ask like he asked our elders to get what we need to get and to reach the lost the reason of people that we need to reach but it's gonna come at a cost so am I gonna say those two things commitment and sacrifice that's great your mark thank you very much for that answer this is directed toward whoever wants to go ahead and answer this is from brother Smith in Cleveland Texas thank you for joining in with us he wants to know do you believe that this online church slash preaching is one of the ways that we will fulfill Jesus's statement greater things than these will ye do his online ministry the next frontier of apostolic ministry let me let me I'm gonna give you a short answer then I seen my brother gonna say something I believe online ministry will be a part of but you cannot lose the in the Old Testament was called the power of an a man there has to be the spoken the oral and then it has to be affirmed and while while this method is good my brother and I started a network 12 or 15 years ago but this very thing so I believe in it wholeheartedly believe in it I don't believe it can be the only tool in the toolbox it can be one of my many but you will never ever take the place of coming together and the oral Word of God being spoken and then received the Shepherd feeding the Sheep has got to take place the arguments been house-to-house for the same verse and commands house the house and they met daily in the temple so I think there's an accumulation of things to answer brother Smith question let it be part of what you do do it well get creative with it but nothing will ever take the place of assembling together locking eyes joining spirits now we're not in China we don't have to do it underground and secretly we're in America where we can do these things greatly but even in closed doors and in China there's still the receiving of the word and the affirmation of the word so I think online can be a great tool it is a great tool we're going to continue to use it but it cannot be the only tool don't let me just inject something here several years ago we had a guy come over and he was talking to us about what social media was just starting to kana and he said social media the online deal is like a hook he told us then he said you need to think 140 characters or less of course he this is when Twitter was just starting you know so we kind of called everything TGIF Twitter Google Instagram and Facebook that was the deal TGIF but he said these things are to connect they're to get you out there they're to kind of make a connection there and he said so then it leads you to maybe ultimi it leads you to an offline experience I don't know if that makes sense in other words we're gonna use this to connect with people to get things out but it's not the end result it should be so that there can be a one-on-one personal off line something that connects I think God's gonna use this to open doors for entire churches and denominations but that it's a tool being used but then there's that personal touch down the road somewhere that I believe connection that has to happen so that's that's kind of where I see it so if I could kind of say it like this do you almost feel like it's the bridge between the where it used to be knocking on the door would be the bridge to connect you in person now we need to be using social media Facebook live Instagram live zoom webinar we need to be using these platforms to build the bridge of connection so that we can take them to that next step to where yes this is important but as dad said there's nothing more important than gathering together forsake not the assembling of the body we've got to come together yeah yeah I think to admit you know you know we look at met Crusades and meetings and stuff and all you know why don't we get the numbers that other people get well because they they had online presence and I'm not here to go into television I'm at that's the mood issue as far as I'm concerned but a lot of these guys were on television so they had facial recognition people knew they were out there they'd already connected to a degree on some kind of a technology deal but then when they go into an area or people know then they start connecting together and that's the reason why they I believe such an impact and so I think that's where God's trying to get us to and and we're a little late to the dance but we're here well that's great I'm gonna ask just a couple more questions and then we'll wrap this thing up this question says in Jude 1 verses 1 through 3 it talks about being contenders for the faith do you feel as if we are in a time that God is wanting to see if the North American church is going to contend is going to contend before allowing the book of Revelation and the end times to take place well yes very much I mean that's what we're here for we're here to reach the world preach the gospel but we're here as as your dad's been saying is prepare a bride so I think before all this other stuff breaks loose and all yes we need to contend for the well first of all we contend for the faith that was once delivered there's only one faith it was delivered one time so every generation has a responsibility to contend for that we're not changing this all these people that are changing all the time you know to me they're wandering stars you know I mean where do you stop somebody told me here a while back yes talk about a guy said well and I don't I don't want to get in negative deal here I said well the problem is is he's proved he has the ability to change and that's so once you start down when when when are we wrong when are we right you know we lose something so I think it's a matter of we need to contend we need to stay in our spiritual positions of the gospel and the doctrine and it doesn't matter what they're doing out there we're we're the church and we're who we are and yes we contend for it until God raptures us out of here I don't know if I answered it or sling mud so there you have it no that was great and then I'm gonna go ahead and anybody else dad your mark anybody else want to answer that before I go to the next question we gotta contend for the faith that's obvious and it was the faith not faith as in I have faith to believe for a miracle but the gospel Satan faith salvation faith and then we also have to realize that every man's faith it's gonna be tested driving fire so yeah we're gonna contend for it and we're gonna be we're gonna be tested number one by God and then this junk that comes from the world so we have to be willing to stand the test of faith along with contending for the faith that's great hey are you are you paying us by the hour yeah absolutely okay all right hey we've been here so long my computer timed out on the TV I mean the monitor my apologies I forget we got to be socially correct here well one more question that I promise we're going to be done dad this question was directed this question was directed towards you and actually I'm sorry it was directed towards bishop and pastor Jeff Morgan so to dad and uncle Marc what is the importance of the office of the Prophet in this season and the seasons ahead is the role of prophetic voices even more important and necessary now than ever you whichever one of y'all want to take it I'll start it and I'll let mark have it absolutely 100% not greater than the other gifts not greater or more needed but it has to be more fine-tuned we need a restoration of faith in those gifts they are fully operational there are prophets among us we need to make room for prophecies we need to make room for prophets I think every church all I have I think every church ought to have the fivefold ministry connected to them and one of them has to be a prophet if we're going to navigate the supernatural you better have somebody that can operate in the supernatural not just preach but come in and feel take the pulse of that local assembly and elevate it or challenge it or god forbid rebuke it and I think that's the role of a prophet more than just coming in to preach and to be an evangelist but you have to have a prophet you have to have that challenging spirit sometimes he comes with a hammer sometimes he comes - well anyway you need a prophet you better have one yes 1% tag you're it mark well I've always said you can't be a prophet in the nonprofit organization so no I agree with what you said it's it's part of fivefold ministry there's no perfecting of the church or the Saints without it it's the tutors and governors it's one of the pieces that God uses to mature his church to grow his church so and it's it's it's really gonna be stronger I think in the next few months or years we need seers not just people that are inspired prophecies resting on everybody that's inspired but we need seers to see where we're going what's happening see in the church see what's going on the church so yeah I believe that very much so all right well thank all of you guys so much for joining with me there's nobody else and I wanted to kick off the the first episode within my family like I said at the beginning I never really had to look far to find just heroes of the faith for me and I know that my cousin John Mark would agree and my brothers would agree uncle mark would you mind closing us out in prayer here tonight not at all Jesus we love you thank you Lord for the time that you've given us to share the Word of God to share your heartbeat we believe I pray for all the panelists I pray for everybody that's been watching I pray your blessing upon them give us supernatural strength for the journey let us awaken to supernatural provisions that you're trying to give us and let us proceed on to the place that you've called us to the things that you called us to do we thank you for it in the wonderful name of Jesus in Jesus name Amen before everybody jumps off here next week a week from tonight we'll be joined by Bishop stark and Jimmy stark they're going to be coming on here and they will be our panelists next week so you don't want to miss next Friday a week from today I want to say that it is the 26 but I could be wrong be sure you join us next week for generations episode 2 thank you everybody for joining and this will be going on Facebook live tonight dad Uncle Mark Joe mark I love you guys thank you again hey I want to say something first I'm proud of you I'm proud of John Mark for your generation I want to do this for your generation to precede the need of this to be to take the initiative to do this I come in you not just as my son but as a fellow laborer and the kingdom job mark I am one proud uncle stay the course you guys got this you are the real deal be apostolic I feel the same way Wow thank you guys John Mark anything you want to say before we get done here you've been sitting there grinning the whole time Reisman great I love you guys all right thank you guys so much I love each of you thank you all the panelists and participants that were on tonight this will be on Facebook live before the night is over I promise I do apologize that we had an issue with Facebook live but I will be doing a life premiere before the night is over thank you guys again love all of you but by doing bye

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